Re: [osol-discuss] Build times for Open Solaris....

2006-01-17 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 1/17/06, John Kaitschuck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I have noticed that full build times seem to be a bit
 on the excessive side for Open Solaris on my older
 U60. Excessive here means on the order of more than
 8 hours. I was wondering what are the full build
 times for something like the AMD SMP (2 way) based
 Sun 2100z? or another more modern 64 bit architecture?

 I want to get this down to something a little more
 reasonable, vs. what currently equates to an over
 night build. While I have some money to throw at
 this problem, in the guise of new hardware, I am
 not in a position to buy a 4 way, SCSI based system.

 Does any one have any recommendations and real world
 build times to report?


Dual AMD 250 Opteron = about 1 hour build times
so .. fire off nightly .. watch a Star Trek re-run.
add 10 minutes to that and you have rebooted and are running fine.

Dennis
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Re: [osol-discuss] Build times for Open Solaris....

2006-01-17 Thread Joerg Schilling
Dennis Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dual AMD 250 Opteron = about 1 hour build times
 so .. fire off nightly .. watch a Star Trek re-run.
 add 10 minutes to that and you have rebooted and are running fine.

What machine is this?

Interesting: dual AMD 248 V20z  1:30 
 dual AMD 242 MSI-9617 (1GB RAM)1:30

Jörg

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Re: [osol-discuss] Build times for Open Solaris....

2006-01-17 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 1/17/06, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dennis Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Dual AMD 250 Opteron = about 1 hour build times
  so .. fire off nightly .. watch a Star Trek re-run.
  add 10 minutes to that and you have rebooted and are running fine.

 What machine is this?

 Interesting: dual AMD 248 V20z  1:30
  dual AMD 242 MSI-9617 (1GB RAM)1:30


$ cat log/log.1223/mail_msg

 Nightly distributed build started:   Thu Dec 22 23:46:04 EST 2005 
 Nightly distributed build completed: Fri Dec 23 01:05:33 EST 2005 

 Total build time 

real1:19:29

that was build 29 and build 30 was about the same.  Build 28 was no
joy and build 27a was real fast at about 1 hour flat.

Dual AMD 250  V20z

Dennis
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Re: [osol-discuss] Build times for Open Solaris....

2006-01-17 Thread Bill Rushmore
On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 19:05, John Kaitschuck wrote:

 Does any one have any recommendations and real world
 build times to report?
 

Sun Blade 100: 8-10 Hours
SUNPCI III As guest Vmware OS on Windows XP off of a USB drive:  11+
hours
Sony Vaio TR1:  6 hours

Remember a U60 is an old system and that build time doesn't seem to bad
for its age.  
My recommendation are to use the -i option for an incremental build
whenever you can.  If you are working a specific section of the code
just build that portion while you are developing and save the complete
build for when you are done for the day.  Heck that is probably why it's
called 'nightly'. :-)

Bill
rushmores.net
 

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Re: [osol-discuss] Build times for Open Solaris....

2006-01-17 Thread Bart Smaalders

Bill Rushmore wrote:

On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 19:05, John Kaitschuck wrote:


Does any one have any recommendations and real world
build times to report?



Sun Blade 100: 8-10 Hours
SUNPCI III As guest Vmware OS on Windows XP off of a USB drive:  11+
hours
Sony Vaio TR1:  6 hours

Remember a U60 is an old system and that build time doesn't seem to bad
for its age.  
My recommendation are to use the -i option for an incremental build

whenever you can.  If you are working a specific section of the code
just build that portion while you are developing and save the complete
build for when you are done for the day.  Heck that is probably why it's
called 'nightly'. :-)

Bill
rushmores.net
 


Note that dmake is a big win, even for single cpu machines since
it allows you to do something useful while waiting for the disk.

SPARC builds involve several separate kernel architectures, x86 just has
32 and 64 bit.

There are significant parts of the build that are rather serial;
Amdahl's law is alive and well in our builds.

- Bart



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Re: [osol-discuss] Build times for Open Solaris....

2006-01-17 Thread Matt Ingenthron

Bart Smaalders wrote:


There are significant parts of the build that are rather serial;
Amdahl's law is alive and well in our builds.


Careful there...  Since the guy that threw a wrench into Amdahl's law in 
1988 does research at Sun.  :)  Though I did turn up something in a 
search just now that says the two are mathematically equivalent.


Though, if I understand Gustafson's law correctly, you'll need to be 
building more kernels to be able to use that style parallelism.  It's 
more appropriate for HPC algorithms, not building kernels.  :)


- Matt
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