Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: SchilliX-0.2 ready, but SchilliX (the project) needs help

2005-10-25 Thread Joerg Schilling
Jake Maciejewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thank you for the clarification. GNU/Solaris sounds like it will be the ideal 
 OpenSolaris desktop.

It would help people coming from the Linux corner.
It would most likely not fit my wishes.

... let us wait and see what it really is, once it is available.

Jörg

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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: SchilliX-0.2 ready, but SchilliX (the project) needs help

2005-10-25 Thread Joerg Schilling
Jake Maciejewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 SchilliX won't be able to compete with GNU/Solaris as a desktop. In the Linux 
 and BSD world, distributions need to find a niche to remain popular. For 
 SchilliX, this might be servers and the authentic Solaris experience. 
 You've done a great job packaging OpenSolaris in a usable form, but others 
 have now managed to do the same. You won't be without competition for much 
 longer, and Xorg without applications isn't the answer to the upcoming 
 dilemma.

Xorg is the start for the upcomming enhancements for SchilliX.

I never did believe that SchilliX would stay without competition.
It did even happen later then I believed.

Jörg

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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: SchilliX-0.2 ready, but SchilliX (the

2005-10-25 Thread Joerg Schilling
TJ Yang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Good short and insight comment about SchilliX distribution. The bigger 
 problem is funding issue.  I don't know solution for opensolaris funding 
 issue. blastware was in trouble and now Schillix project.
 Sun has a good bussiness model by supporting Solaris, but where is the 
 bussiness model for OpenSolaris ? can people make a living out of opensolaris 
 work ?

I am not sure if a general business model for OpenSolaris would help SchilliX.

Since Spring 2005 I am working on SchilliX during my office hours
at Fokus. This may be forced to end soon unless we find a way to
fund the project. 

If I don't have my employed student anymore and if I need to share my free time
with working on star, cdrecord, SchilliX and other free software, I will be much
slower than I am today.


 Once release in early Novemenber, I am  interested to translate the livecd 
 process into one of the modulesin opensolaris-20050909.sb at  
 http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSolaris/Developer

The SchilliX Kit is available since yesterday, so you could start to
document it.

ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schillix/schillix-0.2-kit.tar


 Do you think will we  end up like Linux to have 300+ distribution ?

I was in hope that we could have a unified corporate aproach for a
Life CD or distribution as it is done by e.g. the FreeBSD people.

It seems that people who are interested in OpenSolaris don't like 
the corporate aproach but all try to run their own business which
results in being less effective than possible.


 It is worng do discouge innovation but we should avoid  unafforable 
 variations to  drain the  limited and free-time resources.

 I WISH we have one OpenSolaris LIVE CD,  one embeded OpenSolaris, one 
 OpenSolaris Sparc and one OpenSoarlis i386/AMD64, that is it. 

I would cuncur but I doubt that it will be this way.

The track switches are already set and you cannot turn the clock back.
I am even sure that there are people who would prefer a Gnusolaris 
distribution. I personally prefer an OS that behaves like UNIX.

Jörg

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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: SchilliX-0.2 ready, but SchilliX (the

2005-10-25 Thread Moinak . Ghosh
TJ Yang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[snipped...]
 It is worng do discouge innovation but we should avoid  unafforable 
 variations to  drain the  limited and free-time resources.

 I WISH we have one OpenSolaris LIVE CD,  one embeded OpenSolaris, one 
 OpenSolaris Sparc and one OpenSoarlis i386/AMD64, that is it. 

I would cuncur but I doubt that it will be this way.

The track switches are already set and you cannot turn the clock back.
I am even sure that there are people who would prefer a Gnusolaris 
distribution. I personally prefer an OS that behaves like UNIX.

   That's the point. There are diferent user communities who would expect
   different things from a distro. There cannot be the ONE distro that satifies
   everybody. In my personal experience I have seen a Big user community exists
   who would be inerested in a GNU/Solaris distro. This community is pretty BIG 
   in India. And there is also a user community who would want a UNIX distro,
   not a clone.

   IMHO the presence of multiple distros helps the popularity of GNU/Linux.
   Even though too many distros creates problems there has to be 1 distro to
   cater to differnt user groups with conflicting requirements.

Regards,
Moinak.


J?rg

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[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: SchilliX-0.2 ready, but SchilliX (the project) needs help

2005-10-23 Thread Jake Maciejewski
Thank you for the clarification. GNU/Solaris sounds like it will be the ideal 
OpenSolaris desktop.
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[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: SchilliX-0.2 ready, but SchilliX (the project) needs help

2005-10-23 Thread Jake Maciejewski
SchilliX won't be able to compete with GNU/Solaris as a desktop. In the Linux 
and BSD world, distributions need to find a niche to remain popular. For 
SchilliX, this might be servers and the authentic Solaris experience. You've 
done a great job packaging OpenSolaris in a usable form, but others have now 
managed to do the same. You won't be without competition for much longer, and 
Xorg without applications isn't the answer to the upcoming dilemma.
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[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: SchilliX-0.2 ready, but SchilliX (the

2005-10-23 Thread TJ Yang
 SchilliX won't be able to compete with GNU/Solaris as
 a desktop. In the Linux and BSD world, distributions
 need to find a niche to remain popular. For SchilliX,
 this might be servers and the authentic Solaris
 experience. You've done a great job packaging
 OpenSolaris in a usable form, but others have now
 managed to do the same. You won't be without
 competition for much longer, and Xorg without
 applications isn't the answer to the upcoming dilemma.

Jake

Good short and insight comment about SchilliX distribution. The bigger problem 
is funding issue.  I don't know solution for opensolaris funding issue. 
blastware was in trouble and now Schillix project.
Sun has a good bussiness model by supporting Solaris, but where is the 
bussiness model for OpenSolaris ? can people make a living out of opensolaris 
work ?

Once release in early Novemenber, I am  interested to translate the livecd 
process into one of the modulesin opensolaris-20050909.sb at  
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSolaris/Developer

Do you think will we  end up like Linux to have 300+ distribution ?
It is worng do discouge innovation but we should avoid  unafforable variations 
to  drain the  limited and free-time resources.

I WISH we have one OpenSolaris LIVE CD,  one embeded OpenSolaris, one 
OpenSolaris Sparc and one OpenSoarlis i386/AMD64, that is it. 


tj yang
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