Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: SchilliX-0.2 ready, but SchilliX (the project) needs help
Jake Maciejewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you for the clarification. GNU/Solaris sounds like it will be the ideal OpenSolaris desktop. It would help people coming from the Linux corner. It would most likely not fit my wishes. ... let us wait and see what it really is, once it is available. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: SchilliX-0.2 ready, but SchilliX (the project) needs help
Jake Maciejewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SchilliX won't be able to compete with GNU/Solaris as a desktop. In the Linux and BSD world, distributions need to find a niche to remain popular. For SchilliX, this might be servers and the authentic Solaris experience. You've done a great job packaging OpenSolaris in a usable form, but others have now managed to do the same. You won't be without competition for much longer, and Xorg without applications isn't the answer to the upcoming dilemma. Xorg is the start for the upcomming enhancements for SchilliX. I never did believe that SchilliX would stay without competition. It did even happen later then I believed. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: SchilliX-0.2 ready, but SchilliX (the
TJ Yang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good short and insight comment about SchilliX distribution. The bigger problem is funding issue. I don't know solution for opensolaris funding issue. blastware was in trouble and now Schillix project. Sun has a good bussiness model by supporting Solaris, but where is the bussiness model for OpenSolaris ? can people make a living out of opensolaris work ? I am not sure if a general business model for OpenSolaris would help SchilliX. Since Spring 2005 I am working on SchilliX during my office hours at Fokus. This may be forced to end soon unless we find a way to fund the project. If I don't have my employed student anymore and if I need to share my free time with working on star, cdrecord, SchilliX and other free software, I will be much slower than I am today. Once release in early Novemenber, I am interested to translate the livecd process into one of the modulesin opensolaris-20050909.sb at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSolaris/Developer The SchilliX Kit is available since yesterday, so you could start to document it. ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schillix/schillix-0.2-kit.tar Do you think will we end up like Linux to have 300+ distribution ? I was in hope that we could have a unified corporate aproach for a Life CD or distribution as it is done by e.g. the FreeBSD people. It seems that people who are interested in OpenSolaris don't like the corporate aproach but all try to run their own business which results in being less effective than possible. It is worng do discouge innovation but we should avoid unafforable variations to drain the limited and free-time resources. I WISH we have one OpenSolaris LIVE CD, one embeded OpenSolaris, one OpenSolaris Sparc and one OpenSoarlis i386/AMD64, that is it. I would cuncur but I doubt that it will be this way. The track switches are already set and you cannot turn the clock back. I am even sure that there are people who would prefer a Gnusolaris distribution. I personally prefer an OS that behaves like UNIX. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED](work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: SchilliX-0.2 ready, but SchilliX (the
TJ Yang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snipped...] It is worng do discouge innovation but we should avoid unafforable variations to drain the limited and free-time resources. I WISH we have one OpenSolaris LIVE CD, one embeded OpenSolaris, one OpenSolaris Sparc and one OpenSoarlis i386/AMD64, that is it. I would cuncur but I doubt that it will be this way. The track switches are already set and you cannot turn the clock back. I am even sure that there are people who would prefer a Gnusolaris distribution. I personally prefer an OS that behaves like UNIX. That's the point. There are diferent user communities who would expect different things from a distro. There cannot be the ONE distro that satifies everybody. In my personal experience I have seen a Big user community exists who would be inerested in a GNU/Solaris distro. This community is pretty BIG in India. And there is also a user community who would want a UNIX distro, not a clone. IMHO the presence of multiple distros helps the popularity of GNU/Linux. Even though too many distros creates problems there has to be 1 distro to cater to differnt user groups with conflicting requirements. Regards, Moinak. J?rg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) J?rg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] (uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: SchilliX-0.2 ready, but SchilliX (the project) needs help
Thank you for the clarification. GNU/Solaris sounds like it will be the ideal OpenSolaris desktop. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: SchilliX-0.2 ready, but SchilliX (the project) needs help
SchilliX won't be able to compete with GNU/Solaris as a desktop. In the Linux and BSD world, distributions need to find a niche to remain popular. For SchilliX, this might be servers and the authentic Solaris experience. You've done a great job packaging OpenSolaris in a usable form, but others have now managed to do the same. You won't be without competition for much longer, and Xorg without applications isn't the answer to the upcoming dilemma. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: SchilliX-0.2 ready, but SchilliX (the
SchilliX won't be able to compete with GNU/Solaris as a desktop. In the Linux and BSD world, distributions need to find a niche to remain popular. For SchilliX, this might be servers and the authentic Solaris experience. You've done a great job packaging OpenSolaris in a usable form, but others have now managed to do the same. You won't be without competition for much longer, and Xorg without applications isn't the answer to the upcoming dilemma. Jake Good short and insight comment about SchilliX distribution. The bigger problem is funding issue. I don't know solution for opensolaris funding issue. blastware was in trouble and now Schillix project. Sun has a good bussiness model by supporting Solaris, but where is the bussiness model for OpenSolaris ? can people make a living out of opensolaris work ? Once release in early Novemenber, I am interested to translate the livecd process into one of the modulesin opensolaris-20050909.sb at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSolaris/Developer Do you think will we end up like Linux to have 300+ distribution ? It is worng do discouge innovation but we should avoid unafforable variations to drain the limited and free-time resources. I WISH we have one OpenSolaris LIVE CD, one embeded OpenSolaris, one OpenSolaris Sparc and one OpenSoarlis i386/AMD64, that is it. tj yang This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org