[osol-discuss] Re: x86 vs SPARC

2006-10-26 Thread Gino Ruopolo
  I'm doing some serious comparison to decide what to
 do with some old USIII 900 servers.
 
 What do you mean by the 900?  900MHz US-III - you
 quite 750MHz below.

We have on production several servers using USIII 900Mhz and 1200Mhz
and seriously thinking on replacing them with Opterons.

I've reported some tests done on my old Blade1000 with USIII 750Mhz.
 
  gino$ time ./doit
 
 ptime(1m) is supposed to be more reproducable, but
 does not time child processes (are there
 any?) of the command;  

no, single process.

  Is that possible??  a USIII 750 faster than a Xeon
 2.4Ghz??
  Could that be related to cache size?
 
 Yes, or any number of other things.  Even the old
 sparc processors have bigger l2 caches
 than all but the very latest x86 cpus.  The caches
 are different not just in size
 but in architecture - where misses are filled to,
 indexing, cacheline size, associativity etc
 and it looks like the combination on the USIII 750MHz
 *may* have suited this app very nicely.
 But you also need to consider other factors such as
 system memory size.  Was it the
 same OS version used in each case?

Same OS. All systems used in my tests are with 4GB or 8GB memory
and only doing my test.
 
  Also I've seen that Opteron 4CPU boxes are going
 slow when there are a lot of process runnning ...
 
 That's never been my experience.

Also other sysadmin I know found the same when switched from Sparc to Opteron...
 
 
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[osol-discuss] Re: x86 vs SPARC

2006-10-26 Thread Gino Ruopolo
 T2000   slow, really slow for that app  :(

for the t2000 to be shown the best light you need to run 24-32 copies of the 
single threaded app to shine.

I think the performances of my app are deeply depending on cache size.
For example a 4800 with 8 USIII 900Mhz is much faster then T2000 ... 
unfortunately :(
 
 
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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: x86 vs SPARC

2006-10-26 Thread Daniel Rock

Gino Ruopolo schrieb:

Galvin Maltby wrote:

That's never been my experience.


Not my experience neither.


Also other sysadmin I know found the same when switched from Sparc to Opteron...


Then you know the wrong sysadmins.

Simple test: Compile some files in parallel (dmake -j X) on a 2 cpu box:

(1) dmake -j 2
real 1:18.18
user 1:37.05
sys18.57
Load average: 1.32

(2) dmake -j 8
real 1:12.24
user 1:37.65
sys18.42
Load average: 4.32

(3) dmake -j 64
real 1:14.06
user 1:37.90
sys18.49
Load average: 11.86

. Same system time
. only a slight increase in user time from -j 8 to -j 64

I also did some other tests with an Oracle database and also achieved nearly 
no additional overhead, regardless if 2 or 32 sessions were working on the 
database.



Daniel
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