Re: [osol-discuss] Open Solaris on SPARC sans piggies

2005-07-07 Thread Shawn Walker
On 7/5/05, A G T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It certainly is nowadays.
> Old assembler language guys cringe at wasted bytes though ; >

Perhaps, but even as someone that used to write assembly language,
I'll take portable, easier to maintain code over something that's
extremely efficient but difficult to maintain and certainly not
portable.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Open Solaris on SPARC sans piggies

2005-07-07 Thread A G T

On Tue, 5 Jul 2005, Rich Teer wrote:


Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 18:58:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rich Teer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: AG Toon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Open Solaris on SPARC sans piggies

On Tue, 5 Jul 2005, AG Toon wrote:


So what you say..
Well Im used to *BSD source where you can, say, build a kernel
without extraneous drivers for long dead ether cards
hogging disk space and fattening up your kernel : >
Open Solaris aint there yet.


With OpenSolaris, we're used to modular kernels that load only
the modules they require right now, without all that messy
kernel compilation.  ;-)


Well yes I knew that but really the point here is (I think)
that things are a tad haywire right now - maybe now is a
good time to nip things in the bud..? Why have E1 stuff
when it wont be used and the source aint there anyhoo?
A finer grained and more closely audited sun4u tree
(acrually not just sun4u) would be nice
but I guess I can live without it. At least I can get where I
am right now which is pretty good.
So I guess you vote for copying all the 'piggy back' files then
over customizing a prototype file..?


(Disk space is cheap to counter your
other point.)


It certainly is nowadays.
Old assembler language guys cringe at wasted bytes though ; >
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Re: [osol-discuss] Open Solaris on SPARC sans piggies

2005-07-05 Thread Casper . Dik

>So what you say..
>Well Im used to *BSD source where you can, say, build a kernel
>without extraneous drivers for long dead ether cards
>hogging disk space and fattening up your kernel : >
>Open Solaris aint there yet.

In Solaris all kernel drivers are dynamically loaded; they sit
on disk (which is cheap) but they're not loaded in the
kernel.

>I had a question:
>If I took the piggy back stuff away what would happen?

Nothing, you'd save a few meazly bytes on disk.  I think
you can make a smaller bootable image than 300 MB, though

Casper
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Re: [osol-discuss] Open Solaris on SPARC sans piggies

2005-07-05 Thread Rich Teer
On Tue, 5 Jul 2005, AG Toon wrote:

> So what you say..
> Well Im used to *BSD source where you can, say, build a kernel
> without extraneous drivers for long dead ether cards
> hogging disk space and fattening up your kernel : >
> Open Solaris aint there yet.

With OpenSolaris, we're used to modular kernels that load only
the modules they require right now, without all that messy
kernel compilation.  ;-)  (Disk space is cheap to counter your
other point.)

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