[opensource-dev] Nasty scrolling bug in inventory search in 3.4.0 262607
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-29358 Prevents effective use of inventory search, because it scrolls back up to the top of the results, nasty! CronoCloud signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Need help diagnosing a Linux viewer launch failure
On Tue, 26 Jun 2012 06:24:42 -0400 Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) o...@lindenlab.com wrote: if you have one and can take a moment to tell me why this beta candidate build fails on startup I'd appreciate it Starts up fine on Fedora 17 x86_64. However I can guess what the problem might be, every once in a while a viewer release won't play nice with one's settings.xml file ( or settings-betaviewer.xml, etc etc.) Delete it and let the viewer re-create it, annoying, but it should let the viewer start. CronoCloud signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Looks like 3.3.3 258054 broke tattoo layers (but it's actually a baking issue)
On Fri, 25 May 2012 20:12:35 -0500 Ron Rogers Jr. cronocl...@mchsi.com wrote: Wear a tattoo layer in that viewer and you'll see a line around your neck. If someone can confirm they see this, I'll start a Jira on it. CronoCloud Started a JIRA on it as I said, figured out it's really some kind of baking issue unrelated to tattoo or alpha. The reason why it seemed intermittent at first, is because some outfits seemed to be reusing the previous unglitched bake...until they rebaked. https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-29139 CronoCloud signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Looks like 3.3.3 258054 broke tattoo layers
On Tue, 29 May 2012 19:53:58 +0100 (BST) dilspi72-for...@yahoo.de dilspi72-for...@yahoo.de wrote: did other see the line around Your neck too? Yes I can confirm that others see it around my neck. I've also now seen it without wearing a tattoo and/or alpha layer, as in the following screenshot: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cronocloudcreeggan/7345051856/in/photostream Rebaking doesn't fix it, and in fact if an outfit doesn't show the line, rebaking will cause it to appear. Deleting cache or settings files doesn't fix it either. CronoCloud signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Linux toolchain update... testers needed.
On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 14:27:00 -0400 Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) o...@lindenlab.com wrote: I've got a test build that I'd like some Linux users to try to see if it works for them: Please respond here or directly to me (don't create Jira issues yet, please). Logged into main grid with it right now on Fedora 17 64-bit. it doesn't seem to have that strange neck glitch issue I've reported for 3.3.3-258xxx on up. Second Life 3.3.3 (257957) May 24 2012 17:25:24 (Second Life Development) Release Notes You are at 259515.0, 211842.0, 29.5 in Pantucket located at sim5859.agni.lindenlab.com (216.82.15.88:13001) Second Life Server 12.06.04.258754 Release Notes CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 240 Processor (2800 MHz) Memory: 3011 MB OS Version: Linux 3.3.7-1.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon May 21 22:32:19 UTC 2012 x86_64 Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation Graphics Card: GeForce GT 220/PCIe/SSE2 OpenGL Version: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 295.53 CronoCloud signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Linux toolchain update... testers needed.
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 21:31:51 +0200 Ambrosia chaoss...@gmail.com wrote: Oz, as an aside.. Is there a plan to ever support building non-standalone on Linux 64bit without installing 32bit libraries or workarounds? It can be a nightmare with some distributions, and being forced to compile it as 32bit in 2012 just feels..wrong. Soft Linden told me that he suggested 64-bit back in 2008, given the state of 32-bit compatibility in 64-bit distros. Also said Linux was a tiny segment and most Linux users were running 32-bit. (ubuntu SL users having twice the number of other distro users...combined) I suggested that one of the reasons for some SL Linux users running 32 was the fact that it's a pain in the ass to get SL releases running on 64-bit. And it's annoying to no end that I have to install 32 bit flash just so I can have flash on web-on-a-prim work. CronoCloud signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Linux toolchain update... testers needed.
On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 15:59:18 -0400 Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) o...@lindenlab.com wrote: There is no plan to do this. There is also not a plan not to do it. Sigh...wasn't this suggested thing to do...4 years ago. I know I complained about the lack of a 64-bit builds of LL releases 2 years ago on my blog. I don't know whether or not the new build systems this was created on are any better set up for 64 bit building than the old one they will replace were (I'll find out). It's 2012, they had better have a 64 bit Linux installed. However, even if they are, doing the work to rebuild and retest all the components and the viewer itself is not a priority for Linden Lab. What is LL's priority, then. Linux users tend to be early adopter/tech evangelists. Wouldn't it be a good idea to make such users happy by making SL easier and less annoying to install for them. I know if a 64-bit build showed up, I'd certainly be crowing about it on the blog and praising the Lindens for doing so. CronoCloud signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Looks like 3.3.3 258054 broke tattoo layers
On Sat, 26 May 2012 21:55:23 -0400 Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) o...@lindenlab.com wrote: What about this one? http://automated-builds-secondlife-com.s3.amazonaws.com/hg/repo/integration_viewer-development/rev/257716/index.html No, it's not in 257716 as far as I can tell. You'll only see it in 257716, if you load up an outfit that you wore in the newer 257800 or later viewer that had the issue (and thusly fetch the texture with the glitch baked in), but a rebake fixes it in 257716. CronoCloud signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
[opensource-dev] Looks like 3.3.3 258054 broke tattoo layers
Wear a tattoo layer in that viewer and you'll see a line around your neck. If someone can confirm they see this, I'll start a Jira on it. CronoCloud signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Looks like 3.3.3 258054 broke tattoo layers
On Fri, 25 May 2012 20:12:35 -0500 Ron Rogers Jr. cronocl...@mchsi.com wrote: Wear a tattoo layer in that viewer and you'll see a line around your neck. If someone can confirm they see this, I'll start a Jira on it. CronoCloud I can tell it's alpha related, you have to have both a tattoo layer and alpha layer on to see it...after some testing I found that the bug is in the previous 257800 viewer but only shows with some alpha layers in that one. CronoCloud signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
[opensource-dev] SnapshotFormat should not be hidden away in a debug setting.
Yea, for in the ancient days, to save snapshot to disk one had to set an advanced menu setting (IIRC) and they were saved as BMP...which was annoying, because they were large. Then in latter days a function was added to allow Compress Snapshot which saves as Lossless PNG, and All Was Good. Now in these recent times, by default, if you hit your Ctrl+~ shortcut, the snapshot is saved as lossy jpg, which is NOT good if one intends on editing and re-saving. I am aware that there is said Debug Setting, but I had to find out about it on my own because said change was not discoverable. I'm also aware that the Snapshot, Shift-Ctrl-S popup lets one choose the save format...but I never use that unless I want to save to inventory immediately for a quick image. For my blog images, I always use Ctrl-~ https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-28944 CronoCloud signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer UI mode merge
On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:34:38 -0400 Mike Chase mike.ch...@alternatemetaverse.com wrote: One thing I've notice in this viewer and a few recent dev builds... Using the mouse wheel to scroll a window only works when I'm hovering over the scroll bar on the right. Doing it over the window (inventory list, notecard, etc) doesn't work. This is on Linux FWIW. Is that intentional? It's a major departure from the standard desktop UI behaviour for all the other scrollable windows on my system. Mike I can confirmI think it's because of the highlight rectangle it puts over itemss that the mouse hovers over. Very annoying. I'm running Linux as well. CronoCloud signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] FUI project just out - no more sidebar
On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 22:03:17 -0400 Jonathan Welch jhwe...@gmail.com wrote: The new FUI project just got merged in to viewer-development. No more sidebar! I kind of liked the sidebar, everything in one place, and it didn't block my view but I can sort of mimic the behavior with the new buttons. Also notifications in upper right, as the Grid intended. A few things I noticed. 1. I have no choice in vertical positioning of buttons. I want the UI buttons at the right to be top right, not middle right That way I can have my inventory/friends/groups windows in middle right Sidebar style So it would be nice to be able to move the buttons anywhere on the docks and have them stay put. The dock buttons also need auto-hide, so I can put windows on the right and left and have the docks pop-over 2. I miss the firefox style search bar in the navigation toolbar. To me it made total sense to have it there. I miss it a LOT. I'm not for certain combining navigation and favorites toolbars was a good idea though I do like the behavior of the more button on the favorites. 3. The UI viewer will immediately crash on launchunless you delete your preferences and start over from scratch. 4. Notifications still aren't big enough to show enough text. I think they use the medium size which is too big. Have notifications respect chat-font size choices, that will help. 5. Certain windows don't seem remember location. Inventory does, but friends list doesn't. 6. I've noticed that delay opening inventory windows, and it's only with the inventory window. That's all I've noticed...so far. CronoCloud signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Anybody else see crashes similar to VWR-26729?
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 13:05:40 -0500 Ron Rogers Jr. cronocl...@mchsi.com wrote: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-26729 CronoCloud Decided to take some more diagnostic steps with 3.0.5 23990 and start with clean settings. (Hadn't done it yet, because changing the default settings are annoying.) That did the trick with preventing crash immediately after start. So I started changing my settings back...and it did crash...with enabling Plugin Read Thread which might explain the LLPlugin related error messages in the crash logs I saw. CronoCloud signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Anybody else see crashes similar to VWR-26729?
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 13:05:40 -0500 Ron Rogers Jr. cronocl...@mchsi.com wrote: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-26729 Been adding more logs to the JIRA, it's still happening. Second Life 3.0.2 (238458) is the most recent build I can actually use. CronoCloud signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Anybody else see crashes similar to VWR-26729?
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 13:39:36 +0200 opensourceobscure opensourceobsc...@gmail.com wrote: However I haven't done much testing with 3.0.2 viewer-development yet, so I cannot confirm that the same crashes happens there. Also, I'm on a 32-bit computer. Yes, the fact that so few of us run 64-bit is a problem...I think that's because getting SL to run on 64 is a hassle so some give up. Are your minidump files empty after crash? No, mine are about 160K. Do you get any error/crash message popup? No. and that surprises me. P.S. with regard to the title of VWR-26729 (and in general), I'd suggest you to use Viewer-development instead of Snowstorm when you want to refer to the client, while the Snowstorm name is appropriate for the project / the team. (I'd like to be corrected if this is wrong! ) Thanks for the suggestion, I'll follow it, though colloquially in SL everyone calls it Snowstorm. CronoCloud signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
[opensource-dev] Anybody else see crashes similar to VWR-26729?
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-26729 CronoCloud signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
[opensource-dev] SL voice issues with pulseaudio combined sink:
Yes, another one: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-26730 CronoCloud signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Anybody else see crashes similar to VWR-26729?
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 14:19:54 -0400 WolfPup Lowenhar wolfpu...@earthlink.net wrote: Actually I was and this also seems related to the following issue: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-26718 I don't think it is now, at least on Linux, because the fix that worked for Gwyneth Llewelyn ( Snowstorm 239192) which includes the LLFastTimer EXP-1107 fix, doesn't work for me. Wish it did. CronoCloud signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] SL voice issues with pulseaudio combined sink:
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 00:24:09 +0200 Altair Sythos Memo syt...@gmail.com wrote: this is a pulseaudio mis-use How so, the functionality is built into pulseaudio. duplex audio isn't suitable for voice+audio (capture+output) on same channel (this happen on SL, like OpenArena VoiceChat or all other software where you select same device for in+out without setup a virtual device each application), Combined sink is a virtual device. you must use composite (input on a virtuald evice and output on another virtual device, maybe same physical device). Perhaps you didn't understand, I effectively have two sound cards. The motherboard audio has the only input, but I also have HDMI out via my GT220. This isn't a SL related problem IMHO More Vivox related, but SL's own sounds, both environmental and media streams work fine with combined sink. Voice input isn't affected, only output. CronoCloud signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
[opensource-dev] Very Frequent Crashes in Snowstorm 3.0.2 builds 238538 and 238719 on Linux.
There seems to be no pattern to it, it'll crash just after startup, it'll crash after a couple of minutes, it'll crash after a half hour. It's actually very annoying because Snowstorm before these two builds was always VERY stable and rock solid. Here's a log file, it's not too long, it crashed almost immediately after startup. I'm running Fedora 15 64-bit, Athlon II X2 240 (2.8Ghz) 3GB RAM and a GT220 with 1GB of DDR3. [CronoCloud@wutai ~]$ secondlife 64-bit Linux detected. Running from /usr/local/secondlife-install - Installing menu entries in /home/CronoCloud/.local/share/applications 2011-08-18T15:54:16Z INFO: (anonymous namespace)::LogControlFile::loadFile: logging reconfigured from /usr/local/secondlife-install/app_settings/logcontrol.xml 2011-08-18T15:54:16Z INFO: loadSettingsFromDirectory: Attempting to load settings for the group Global - from location Default 2011-08-18T15:54:16Z INFO: loadSettingsFromDirectory: Loaded settings file /usr/local/secondlife-install/app_settings/settings.xml 2011-08-18T15:54:16Z INFO: loadSettingsFromDirectory: Attempting to load settings for the group PerAccount - from location Default 2011-08-18T15:54:16Z INFO: loadSettingsFromDirectory: Loaded settings file /usr/local/secondlife-install/app_settings/settings_per_account.xml 2011-08-18T15:54:16Z INFO: loadSettingsFromDirectory: Attempting to load settings for the group CrashSettings - from location Default 2011-08-18T15:54:16Z INFO: loadSettingsFromDirectory: Loaded settings file /usr/local/secondlife-install/app_settings/settings_crash_behavior.xml 2011-08-18T15:54:16Z INFO: loadSettingsFromDirectory: Attempting to load settings for the group Warnings - from location Default 2011-08-18T15:54:16Z INFO: loadSettingsFromDirectory: Loaded settings file /usr/local/secondlife-install/app_settings/ignorable_dialogs.xml 2011-08-18T15:54:16Z WARNING: set: Invalid control VersionChannelName 2011-08-18T15:54:16Z INFO: initParseCommandLine: Language en 2011-08-18T15:54:16Z INFO: initParseCommandLine: Location US 2011-08-18T15:54:16Z INFO: initParseCommandLine: Variant UTF-8 2011-08-18T15:54:16Z INFO: initConfiguration: Using command line specified settings filename: /home/CronoCloud/.secondlife/user_settings/settings_development.xml 2011-08-18T15:54:16Z INFO: loadSettingsFromDirectory: Attempting to load settings for the group Global - from location User 2011-08-18T15:54:16Z INFO: loadSettingsFromDirectory: Loaded settings file /home/CronoCloud/.secondlife/user_settings/settings_development.xml 2011-08-18T15:54:16Z INFO: loadSettingsFromDirectory: Attempting to load settings for the group CrashSettings - from location User 2011-08-18T15:54:16Z INFO: loadSettingsFromDirectory: Loaded settings file /home/CronoCloud/.secondlife/user_settings/settings_crash_behavior.xml 2011-08-18T15:54:16Z INFO: loadSettingsFromDirectory: Attempting to load settings for the group Warnings - from location User 2011-08-18T15:54:16Z INFO: loadSettingsFromDirectory: Loaded settings file /home/CronoCloud/.secondlife/user_settings/ignorable_dialogs.xml 2011-08-18T15:54:16Z INFO: loadSettingsFromDirectory: Attempting to load settings for the group Global - from location Session 2011-08-18T15:54:16Z INFO: loadSettingsFromDirectory: Attempting to load settings for the group Global - from location UserSession 2011-08-18T15:54:16Z INFO: initMarkerFile: Last exec crashed, setting LastExecEvent to 3 2011-08-18T15:54:16Z WARNING: LLUIColorTable::loadFromFilename: Unable to parse color file /home/CronoCloud/.secondlife/skins/default/colors.xml 2011-08-18T15:54:16Z INFO: init: Configuration initialized. 2011-08-18T15:54:16Z INFO: init: LLCurl initialized. 2011-08-18T15:54:16Z INFO: init: Threads initialized. 2011-08-18T15:54:16Z INFO: initialize: is array 2011-08-18T15:54:16Z INFO: writeSystemInfo: Second Life version 3.0.2 2011-08-18T15:54:16Z INFO: writeSystemInfo: Local time: 2011-08-18T10:54:16 CDT 2011-08-18T15:54:16Z INFO: writeSystemInfo: CPU info: processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 16 model : 6 model name : AMD Athlon(tm) II X2 240 Processor stepping: 2 cpu MHz : 800.000 cache size : 1024 KB physical id : 0 siblings: 2 core id : 0 cpu cores : 2 apicid : 0 initial apicid : 0 fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 5 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc extd_apicid pni monitor cx16 popcnt lahf_lm mp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save bogomips: 5625.04 TLB size: 1024 4K pages clflush size: 64 cache_alignment : 64 address sizes : 48 bits physical, 48 bits virtual power management: ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate
