[opensource-dev] Linux build without the pausing behaviour
Is there a Linux build of V2 of any version that doesnt exhibit the annoying multi-second pauses that freeze the UI? I find myself without any useable V2 viewer at present. I've tried 2.5.2 and 2.6.3 and both still have this issue. How in the world did this every get past QA? It really renders the viewer unusable. I've been using Imprudence the last few days which is nice but a huge shift in UI and I've actually gotten both used to and productive with the V2 paradigm. Mike ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Linux build without the pausing behaviour
Il giorno 28/mar/2011, alle ore 16:41, Mike Chase mike.ch...@alternatemetaverse.com ha scritto: Is there a Linux build of V2 of any version that doesnt exhibit the annoying multi-second pauses that freeze the UI? I find myself without any useable V2 viewer at present. I've tried 2.5.2 and 2.6.3 and both still have this issue. How in the world did this every get past QA? It really renders the viewer unusable. I've been using Imprudence the last few days which is nice but a huge shift in UI and I've actually gotten both used to and productive with the V2 paradigm. Can you explain better the kind of pause? I don't notice sort of... -- Sent by iPhone ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Linux build without the pausing behaviour
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 7:50 AM, Francesco Rabbi syt...@gmail.com wrote: Il giorno 28/mar/2011, alle ore 16:41, Mike Chase mike.ch...@alternatemetaverse.com ha scritto: Is there a Linux build of V2 of any version that doesnt exhibit the annoying multi-second pauses that freeze the UI? I find myself without any useable V2 viewer at present. I've tried 2.5.2 and 2.6.3 and both still have this issue. http://automated-builds-secondlife-com.s3.amazonaws.com/hg/repo/viewer-autobuild2010/latest.html How in the world did this every get past QA? It really renders the viewer unusable. I've been using Imprudence the last few days which is nice but a huge shift in UI and I've actually gotten both used to and productive with the V2 paradigm. I've been wondering that myself. Can you explain better the kind of pause? I don't notice sort of... STORM-809 ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Linux build without the pausing behaviour
It's due to libcurl, noted in STORM-809, and supposedly fixed (in the autobuild repo)? If someone can verify that, maybe you can build it and solve your problem, otherwise you'll have to build your own libcurl to drop in. Another alternative seems to be maintaining your own DNS server/cache, but that's pretty unnecessary IMO. On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Francesco Rabbi syt...@gmail.com wrote: Il giorno 28/mar/2011, alle ore 16:41, Mike Chase mike.ch...@alternatemetaverse.com ha scritto: Is there a Linux build of V2 of any version that doesnt exhibit the annoying multi-second pauses that freeze the UI? I find myself without any useable V2 viewer at present. I've tried 2.5.2 and 2.6.3 and both still have this issue. How in the world did this every get past QA? It really renders the viewer unusable. I've been using Imprudence the last few days which is nice but a huge shift in UI and I've actually gotten both used to and productive with the V2 paradigm. Can you explain better the kind of pause? I don't notice sort of... -- Sent by iPhone ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Linux build without the pausing behaviour
On 03/28/2011 04:41 PM, Mike Chase wrote: Is there a Linux build of V2 of any version that doesnt exhibit the annoying multi-second pauses that freeze the UI? I find myself without any useable V2 viewer at present. I've tried 2.5.2 and 2.6.3 and both still have this issue. I guess you're seeing the effects of STORM-809 https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/STORM-809? How in the world did this every get past QA? It really renders the viewer unusable. The effect of doing blocking domain name lookup is probably less noticeable the faster the internet connection is. If you even have a local nameserver which has most queried domains cached, you would hardly see any difference. (Note that this was even mentioned https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/STORM-809?focusedCommentId=241064page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-241064 as a workaround.) So it could be that the QA department has such a caching nameserver, at least somewhere in their LAN, and thus didn't notice this. Boroondas ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Linux build without the pausing behaviour
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 17:04, Boroondas Gupte slli...@boroon.dasgupta.ch wrote: On 03/28/2011 04:41 PM, Mike Chase wrote: Is there a Linux build of V2 of any version that doesnt exhibit the annoying multi-second pauses that freeze the UI? I find myself without any useable V2 viewer at present. I've tried 2.5.2 and 2.6.3 and both still have this issue. I'm currently using the Autobuild development release which has been mentioned above. Note that in this build some other important features are broken, at least for me (I don't get any HTTP content). I still use it because the performances degradation in 2.5 is too annoying to me. I guess you're seeing the effects of STORM-809? How in the world did this every get past QA? It really renders the viewer unusable. The effect of doing blocking domain name lookup is probably less noticeable the faster the internet connection is. If you even have a local nameserver which has most queried domains cached, you would hardly see any difference. (Note that this was even mentioned as a workaround.) I installed pdns but Second Life performances didn't improve much. Geography may have a role here...I have a ~200ms ping time (minimum) when connecting to Second Life servers. This is common to all users connecting from Italy, as far as I can tell. So it could be that the QA department has such a caching nameserver, at least somewhere in their LAN, and thus didn't notice this. Good point. I suggest they make sure they are NOT using such a caching system, if it can hide issues as big as this one. QA department apart, I / we should have done more testing. I think I remember I had seen this, but I didn't bother to properly investigate it / compare to other releases / file a report. -- Opensource Obscure http://twitter.com/oobscure - http://opensourceobscure.com/lol ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Linux build without the pausing behaviour
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Opensource Obscure opensourceobsc...@gmail.com wrote: QA department apart, I / we should have done more testing. I think I remember I had seen this, but I didn't bother to properly investigate it / compare to other releases / file a report. It was first reported on December 22, the same day the bug was introduced. And was subsequently acknowledged by several Lindens in late December and early January. Yet the bug still made it through 3 releases and counting. I don't think we as a community are the ones that dropped the ball here. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Linux build without the pausing behaviour
On 03/28/2011 10:53 AM, leliel wrote: On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 7:50 AM, Francesco Rabbisyt...@gmail.com wrote: Il giorno 28/mar/2011, alle ore 16:41, Mike Chase mike.ch...@alternatemetaverse.com ha scritto: Is there a Linux build of V2 of any version that doesnt exhibit the annoying multi-second pauses that freeze the UI? I find myself without any useable V2 viewer at present. I've tried 2.5.2 and 2.6.3 and both still have this issue. http://automated-builds-secondlife-com.s3.amazonaws.com/hg/repo/viewer-autobuild2010/latest.html Is this a special build with the fix? I hjave 2.6.3 which still exhibits the problem. And yes I'd agree with others. I've seen this problem reported for quite some time yet no fix seems to make it into the released builds. Mike ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Linux build without the pausing behaviour
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Mike Chase mike.ch...@alternatemetaverse.com wrote: On 03/28/2011 10:53 AM, leliel wrote: On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 7:50 AM, Francesco Rabbisyt...@gmail.com wrote: Il giorno 28/mar/2011, alle ore 16:41, Mike Chase mike.ch...@alternatemetaverse.com ha scritto: Is there a Linux build of V2 of any version that doesnt exhibit the annoying multi-second pauses that freeze the UI? I find myself without any useable V2 viewer at present. I've tried 2.5.2 and 2.6.3 and both still have this issue. http://automated-builds-secondlife-com.s3.amazonaws.com/hg/repo/viewer-autobuild2010/latest.html Is this a special build with the fix? I hjave 2.6.3 which still exhibits the problem. And yes I'd agree with others. I've seen this problem reported for quite some time yet no fix seems to make it into the released builds. It's the autobuild development branch which has several updated libs including a fixed libcurl. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
Re: [opensource-dev] Linux build without the pausing behaviour
On 2011-03-28 10:53, leliel wrote: On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 7:50 AM, Francesco Rabbisyt...@gmail.com wrote: Il giorno 28/mar/2011, alle ore 16:41, Mike Chase mike.ch...@alternatemetaverse.com ha scritto: Is there a Linux build of V2 of any version that doesnt exhibit the annoying multi-second pauses that freeze the UI? I find myself without any useable V2 viewer at present. I've tried 2.5.2 and 2.6.3 and both still have this issue. http://automated-builds-secondlife-com.s3.amazonaws.com/hg/repo/viewer-autobuild2010/latest.html That branch is expected to merge back to viewer-development later this week, so the fix should be in the beta next week and the general release the week after next. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges
