[Openstack] Virtual machine starting but never finish

2012-07-26 Thread Alessandro Tagliapietra
Hello,

i've create a new ubuntu 12.04 instance, using as image the cloud images they 
provide.
The problem is that on logs i get this http://pastie.org/4335405 and if i check 
vnc i just the the cursors (not blinking)

Any idea?

Best

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Re: [Openstack] [ANN] Kombu acquires support for AMQP heartbeats and cancel notifications

2012-07-26 Thread Thierry Carrez
Ask Solem wrote:
 I believe this is of interest to the Openstack people.

Thanks for keeping us posted !

 I've just started maintaining a fork of the amqplib library,
 that differs by using AMQP 0.9.1 instead of 0.8, and that it supports
 heartbeats and the RabbitMQ extensions (consumer cancel notifications,
 publisher confirms and more).

Any reason why this could not be contributed to amqplib ? Is that
dead/unfriendly ?

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[Openstack] [ceilometer] Metering team meeting agenda for Thursday 26 July, 2012 @ 16:00 UTC

2012-07-26 Thread Doug Hellmann
The metering project team holds regular meetings via IRC in
#openstack-meeting, Thursdays at 1600 UTC 
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=16min=0sec=0.

Everyone is welcome to participate.

Agenda: http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/MeteringAgenda

* Review last week's actions
* Discuss priority of maintaining Essex support and find contributor to
work on it if we are going to do it
* Open discussion

If you have any additional topics you would like to cover, please update
the agenda in the wiki.

Doug
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Re: [Openstack] [openstack-dev] High Available queues in rabbitmq

2012-07-26 Thread Rosa, Andrea (HP Cloud Services)
Hi Eugene,

Thanks for the patch.
I have a question:
it seems to me that this patch is a (good) starting point of a broader change 
to be able to use HA in active/active configuration with RMQ.
As far as I know, with that configuration we need to add some extra logic for 
consumers to deal with consumer cancellation notification and duplicated 
messages due to a (potentially) re-send after a failover.

Is that correct?
Is there some plan to have a blueprint for this change?

Regards
--
Andrea Rosa


-Original Message-
From: Eugene Kirpichov [mailto:ekirpic...@gmail.com]
Sent: 26 July 2012 00:46
To: Alessandro Tagliapietra; rbry...@redhat.com
Cc: Rosa, Andrea (HP Cloud Services); OpenStack Development Mailing
List; openstack@lists.launchpad.net
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack] High Available queues in
rabbitmq

Gentlemen,

Here is my patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/10305/
It also depends on another small patch
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/10197

I'd like to ask someone to review it.
Also, how to get these changes into nova? It seems that nova has a
copy-paste of openstack-common inside it, should I just mirror the
changes to nova once they're accepted in openstack-common?

I'm cc'ing Russell Bryant because he originally created the
openstack-common module.

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:03 AM, Alessandro Tagliapietra
tagliapietra.alessan...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yup, using as resource is a old way as
http://www.rabbitmq.com/ha.html
 Active/active makes sure that you have no downtime and it's simple as
you
 don't need to use DRBD.

 2012/7/25 Rosa, Andrea (HP Cloud Services) andrea.r...@hp.com

 Sorry for my question, I have just seen from the original thread that
 we are talking about HA with Active/Active solution.
 --
 Andrea Rosa

 -Original Message-
 From: Rosa, Andrea (HP Cloud Services)
 Sent: 25 July 2012 10:45
 To: Eugene Kirpichov
 Cc: openstack-...@lists.openstack.org; Alessandro Tagliapietra;
 openstack@lists.launchpad.net
 Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack] High Available queues in
 rabbitmq
 
 Hi
 
 Your patch doesn't use a Resource manager, so are you working on an
 Active/Active
 configuration using mirrored queues? Or are you working on a cluster
 configuration?
 
 I am really interested in that change, thanks for your help.
 Regards
 --
 Andrea Rosa
 
 -Original Message-
 From: openstack-bounces+andrea.rosa=hp@lists.launchpad.net
 [mailto:openstack-bounces+andrea.rosa=hp@lists.launchpad.net]
On
 Behalf Of Alessandro Tagliapietra
 Sent: 24 July 2012 17:58
 To: Eugene Kirpichov
 Cc: openstack-...@lists.openstack.org;
openstack@lists.launchpad.net
 Subject: Re: [Openstack] High Available queues in rabbitmq
 
 Oh, so without the need to put an IP floating between hosts.
 Good job, thanks for helping
 
 Best
 
 Alessandro
 
 Il giorno 24/lug/2012, alle ore 17:49, Eugene Kirpichov ha scritto:
 
  Hi Alessandro,
 
  My patch is about removing the need for pacemaker (and it's
pacemaker
  that I denoted with the term TCP load balancer).
 
  I didn't submit the patch yesterday because I underestimated the
  effort to write unit tests for it and found a few issues on the
way.
 I
  hope I'll finish today.
 
  On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:00 AM, Alessandro Tagliapietra
  tagliapietra.alessan...@gmail.com wrote:
  Sorry for the delay, i was out from work.
  Awesome work Eugene, I don't need the patch instantly as i'm
still
 building the infrastructure.
  Will it will take alot of time to go in Ubuntu repositories?
 
  Why you said you need load balancing? You can use only the
master
 node and in case the rabbitmq-server dies, switch the ip to the new
 master with pacemaker, that's how I would do.
 
  Best Regards
 
  Alessadro
 
 
  Il giorno 23/lug/2012, alle ore 21:49, Eugene Kirpichov ha
scritto:
 
  +openstack-dev@
 
  To openstack-dev: this is a discussion of an upcoming patch
about
  native RabbitMQ H/A support in nova. I'll post the patch for
  codereview today.
 
  On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Eugene Kirpichov
 ekirpic...@gmail.com wrote:
  Yup, that's basically the same thing that Jay suggested :)
Obvious
 in
  retrospect...
 
  On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Oleg Gelbukh
 ogelb...@mirantis.com wrote:
  Eugene,
 
  I suggest just add option 'rabbit_servers' that will override
  'rabbit_host'/'rabbit_port' pair, if present. This won't
break
 anything, in
  my understanding.
 
  --
  Best regards,
  Oleg Gelbukh
  Mirantis, Inc.
 
 
  On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:58 PM, Eugene Kirpichov
 ekirpic...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  I'm working on a RabbitMQ H/A patch right now.
 
  It actually involves more than just using H/A queues (unless
 you're
  willing to add a TCP load balancer on top of your RMQ
cluster).
  You also need to add support for multiple RabbitMQ's
directly to
 nova.
  This is not hard at all, and I have the patch ready and
tested
 in
  production.
 
  Alessandro, if you need this urgently, I can send you the
patch
 right
  

[Openstack] Issue in retrieving public IP address

2012-07-26 Thread Sajith Kariyawasam
Hi all,

We need to get the public IP address of an Openstack instance in the
startup of the instance. We have added a script to rc.local of the instance
so that it invokes
http://169.254.169.254/latest/meta-data/public-ipv4; in the script to get
the public IP.

We keep on starting several instances, and found that the public IP is
returned *only* at the creation of the first instance.

In subsequent instances publicIP is not returned as expected. Any idea
whats the issue is ?


-- 
Best Regards
Sajith
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[Openstack] Large image snapshots

2012-07-26 Thread David Kranz
I am a bit ignorant about image formats and such. The size of the Ubuntu 
precise cloud image at 
http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/precise/current/precise-server-cloudimg-amd64-disk1.img 
is about 221Mb. If I boot that image with flavor m1.tiny and use 
image-create I get an image that is 2Gb. If I do the same with flavor 
m1.large the resulting image is 10Gb.  Is there a way to create 
snapshots that don't result in huge images?


 -David

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Re: [Openstack] [OpenStack Foundation] Individual Nominations for Foundation Board of Directors

2012-07-26 Thread Rick Clark
Who is the election official, running this election.  Nomination should
be an open process, similar to the core dev process.  It is currently
closed and subject to manipulation.

I would also suggest that if you are a candidate, you must not be
managing the process.

Rick


On 07/25/2012 06:44 PM, Jonathan Bryce wrote:
 Hi everyone, 
 
 Last Wednesday we started accepting Individual Members for the OpenStack 
 Foundation. We've had an excellent response so far with well over 1,000 
 Individual Members joining in the first week. I wanted to share some 
 important information about how to nominate and elect the Individual Members 
 for the Board of Directors. The deadline to nominate Individual 
 Directors--August 6--is coming very quickly. 
 
 Directors elected by the Individual Members will make up 1/3 of the Board or 
 8 of the 24 seats. You must be an Individual Member to nominate, vote or run 
 for an Individual Member position on the Board of Directors. You can become 
 an Individual Member on our website: http://www.openstack.org/join/
 
 Elections for the Individual Directors will take place August 20-24. To vote 
 in the initial Board election, you must join as an Individual Member by 
 August 15. To appear on the ballot, an Individual Member must receive 
 nominations from 10 other Individual Members. The deadline to nominate an 
 Individual Member is August 6, and all nominations are submitted via email to 
 secret...@openstack.org.
 
 We have created a basic page with initial nominees on it, and will be 
 reaching out to nominees so they can add additional information about 
 themselves. To see who is being nominated so you can support current nominees 
 (who need 10 nominations) or recommend additional candidates, go to 
 http://www.openstack.org/community/openstack-foundation-board-2012-election-candidates/
  
 
 Let us know if you have any questions,
 
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 210-317-2438
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Re: [Openstack] [OpenStack Foundation] Individual Nominations for Foundation Board of Directors

2012-07-26 Thread Dan Wendlandt
Yeah, I'm not sure who nominated me, but it would be helpful to understand
a bit more about what is expected from a board member.  I found this via
google [http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/Foundation/Structure], but is
there any more info?:

The Board of Directors provides legal management of the Foundation and its
financial resources. The Board oversees Foundation operations, sets overall
budget and goals for Foundation staff, and hires the Executive Director.
Board members are also expected to advocate for the Foundation and the
entire OpenStack community.

I'd also advocate for there being some place nominees/candidates can write
a statement expressing why they want to be on the board of directors...
otherwise such a vote may just up as a personality contest or a company v.
company vote, neither of which is good for the community.

Thanks,

Dan




On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:37 AM, Rick Clark r...@openstack.org wrote:

 Who is the election official, running this election.  Nomination should
 be an open process, similar to the core dev process.  It is currently
 closed and subject to manipulation.

 I would also suggest that if you are a candidate, you must not be
 managing the process.

 Rick


 On 07/25/2012 06:44 PM, Jonathan Bryce wrote:
  Hi everyone,
 
  Last Wednesday we started accepting Individual Members for the OpenStack
 Foundation. We've had an excellent response so far with well over 1,000
 Individual Members joining in the first week. I wanted to share some
 important information about how to nominate and elect the Individual
 Members for the Board of Directors. The deadline to nominate Individual
 Directors--August 6--is coming very quickly.
 
  Directors elected by the Individual Members will make up 1/3 of the
 Board or 8 of the 24 seats. You must be an Individual Member to nominate,
 vote or run for an Individual Member position on the Board of Directors.
 You can become an Individual Member on our website:
 http://www.openstack.org/join/
 
  Elections for the Individual Directors will take place August 20-24. To
 vote in the initial Board election, you must join as an Individual Member
 by August 15. To appear on the ballot, an Individual Member must receive
 nominations from 10 other Individual Members. The deadline to nominate an
 Individual Member is August 6, and all nominations are submitted via email
 to secret...@openstack.org.
 
  We have created a basic page with initial nominees on it, and will be
 reaching out to nominees so they can add additional information about
 themselves. To see who is being nominated so you can support current
 nominees (who need 10 nominations) or recommend additional candidates, go
 to
 http://www.openstack.org/community/openstack-foundation-board-2012-election-candidates/
 
  Let us know if you have any questions,
 
  Jonathan
  210-317-2438
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Re: [Openstack] [openstack-dev] High Available queues in rabbitmq

2012-07-26 Thread Eugene Kirpichov
Hi Andrea,

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 4:10 AM, Rosa, Andrea (HP Cloud Services)
andrea.r...@hp.com wrote:
 Hi Eugene,

 Thanks for the patch.
 I have a question:
 it seems to me that this patch is a (good) starting point of a broader change 
 to be able to use HA in active/active configuration with RMQ.
 As far as I know, with that configuration we need to add some extra logic for 
 consumers to deal with consumer cancellation notification and duplicated 
 messages due to a (potentially) re-send after a failover.

 Is that correct?
Well, we ran fine in production without this extra logic, but perhaps
we just didn't hit a situation where it was required.

As for consumer cancellation notifications - I need to remember when
exactly they happen in an HA setup. Maybe you're right.

As for duplicated messages - the situation here is no different
whether you have 1 or many rabbits; reconnection logic was already in
place. Perhaps something should be done here, but it seems that the
lack of this logic didn't hurt anyone so far. Maybe it is because IIRC
messages are ack'd immediately and the failure window is very small.

 Is there some plan to have a blueprint for this change?
I don't have such a plan. Should I?


 Regards
 --
 Andrea Rosa


-Original Message-
From: Eugene Kirpichov [mailto:ekirpic...@gmail.com]
Sent: 26 July 2012 00:46
To: Alessandro Tagliapietra; rbry...@redhat.com
Cc: Rosa, Andrea (HP Cloud Services); OpenStack Development Mailing
List; openstack@lists.launchpad.net
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack] High Available queues in
rabbitmq

Gentlemen,

Here is my patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/10305/
It also depends on another small patch
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/10197

I'd like to ask someone to review it.
Also, how to get these changes into nova? It seems that nova has a
copy-paste of openstack-common inside it, should I just mirror the
changes to nova once they're accepted in openstack-common?

I'm cc'ing Russell Bryant because he originally created the
openstack-common module.

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 3:03 AM, Alessandro Tagliapietra
tagliapietra.alessan...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yup, using as resource is a old way as
http://www.rabbitmq.com/ha.html
 Active/active makes sure that you have no downtime and it's simple as
you
 don't need to use DRBD.

 2012/7/25 Rosa, Andrea (HP Cloud Services) andrea.r...@hp.com

 Sorry for my question, I have just seen from the original thread that
 we are talking about HA with Active/Active solution.
 --
 Andrea Rosa

 -Original Message-
 From: Rosa, Andrea (HP Cloud Services)
 Sent: 25 July 2012 10:45
 To: Eugene Kirpichov
 Cc: openstack-...@lists.openstack.org; Alessandro Tagliapietra;
 openstack@lists.launchpad.net
 Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack] High Available queues in
 rabbitmq
 
 Hi
 
 Your patch doesn't use a Resource manager, so are you working on an
 Active/Active
 configuration using mirrored queues? Or are you working on a cluster
 configuration?
 
 I am really interested in that change, thanks for your help.
 Regards
 --
 Andrea Rosa
 
 -Original Message-
 From: openstack-bounces+andrea.rosa=hp@lists.launchpad.net
 [mailto:openstack-bounces+andrea.rosa=hp@lists.launchpad.net]
On
 Behalf Of Alessandro Tagliapietra
 Sent: 24 July 2012 17:58
 To: Eugene Kirpichov
 Cc: openstack-...@lists.openstack.org;
openstack@lists.launchpad.net
 Subject: Re: [Openstack] High Available queues in rabbitmq
 
 Oh, so without the need to put an IP floating between hosts.
 Good job, thanks for helping
 
 Best
 
 Alessandro
 
 Il giorno 24/lug/2012, alle ore 17:49, Eugene Kirpichov ha scritto:
 
  Hi Alessandro,
 
  My patch is about removing the need for pacemaker (and it's
pacemaker
  that I denoted with the term TCP load balancer).
 
  I didn't submit the patch yesterday because I underestimated the
  effort to write unit tests for it and found a few issues on the
way.
 I
  hope I'll finish today.
 
  On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:00 AM, Alessandro Tagliapietra
  tagliapietra.alessan...@gmail.com wrote:
  Sorry for the delay, i was out from work.
  Awesome work Eugene, I don't need the patch instantly as i'm
still
 building the infrastructure.
  Will it will take alot of time to go in Ubuntu repositories?
 
  Why you said you need load balancing? You can use only the
master
 node and in case the rabbitmq-server dies, switch the ip to the new
 master with pacemaker, that's how I would do.
 
  Best Regards
 
  Alessadro
 
 
  Il giorno 23/lug/2012, alle ore 21:49, Eugene Kirpichov ha
scritto:
 
  +openstack-dev@
 
  To openstack-dev: this is a discussion of an upcoming patch
about
  native RabbitMQ H/A support in nova. I'll post the patch for
  codereview today.
 
  On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Eugene Kirpichov
 ekirpic...@gmail.com wrote:
  Yup, that's basically the same thing that Jay suggested :)
Obvious
 in
  retrospect...
 
  On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Oleg Gelbukh
 ogelb...@mirantis.com wrote:
  

Re: [Openstack] [OpenStack Foundation] Individual Nominations for Foundation Board of Directors

2012-07-26 Thread Robbie Williamson
On 07/26/2012 11:08 AM, Dan Wendlandt wrote:
 I'd also advocate for there being some place nominees/candidates can
 write a statement expressing why they want to be on the board of
 directors... otherwise such a vote may just up as a personality contest
 or a company v. company vote, neither of which is good for the community.  
 
+1

-- 
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robbiew[irc.freenode.net]

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Re: [Openstack] [OpenStack Foundation] Individual Nominations for Foundation Board of Directors

2012-07-26 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi Rick,

On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 10:37 -0500, Rick Clark wrote:
 Who is the election official, running this election.  Nomination should
 be an open process, similar to the core dev process.  It is currently
 closed and subject to manipulation.
 
 I would also suggest that if you are a candidate, you must not be
 managing the process.

All reasonable points, especially for future elections.

However, I think Jonathan deserves a break on this - trying to quickly
bootstrap something means you can't get everything perfect. I'd prefer
to see rapid progress rather than a perfect process for the bootstrap
election.

Assuming we can all trust that everyone is acting in good faith ...

Cheers,
Mark.


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Re: [Openstack] [OpenStack Foundation] Individual Nominations for Foundation Board of Directors

2012-07-26 Thread Robbie Williamson
On 07/26/2012 11:49 AM, Robbie Williamson wrote:
 Also, it
 might make sense to confirm with nominees *before* placing them on the
 list...so at least they know what they are getting into ;).
Nevermind...I was just too impatient. :/

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Re: [Openstack] [OpenStack Foundation] Individual Nominations for Foundation Board of Directors

2012-07-26 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 07/26/2012 08:37 AM, Rick Clark wrote:
 Who is the election official, running this election.  Nomination
 should be an open process, similar to the core dev process.  

Speaking of that process, it's broken and needs to be fixed ASAP, since
we'll have the PTL elections soon. The current nomination process,
especially, is broken: it requires way too much manual processing and
more than manipulation, it allows mistakes (like in the past election,
where I forgot to include one candidate to the list).

This is how we ran it last time:
http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/ElectionsSpring2012

Want to help fix it? Let's define a better process and build the tools
to automate it all.

/stef

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Re: [Openstack] [OpenStack Foundation] Individual Nominations for Foundation Board of Directors

2012-07-26 Thread Duncan McGreggor
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Stefano Maffulli stef...@openstack.org wrote:
 On 07/26/2012 08:37 AM, Rick Clark wrote:
 Who is the election official, running this election.  Nomination
 should be an open process, similar to the core dev process.

 Speaking of that process, it's broken and needs to be fixed ASAP, since
 we'll have the PTL elections soon. The current nomination process,
 especially, is broken: it requires way too much manual processing and
 more than manipulation, it allows mistakes (like in the past election,
 where I forgot to include one candidate to the list).

 This is how we ran it last time:
 http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/ElectionsSpring2012

 Want to help fix it?

Yes!

 Let's define a better process and build the tools
 to automate it all.

David Mertz of the Python Software Foundation is currently working on
fixing lots of the same problems that we -- in the OpenStack community
-- are now facing or will be soon. Count me in :-) I'll start pulling
information and resources together for this, and when I've landed from
my travels, I'll send an update to this thread with links.

d

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[Openstack] Quota attributes Metadata Items, Injected Files and Injected File Content Bytes

2012-07-26 Thread laclasse
Hi,

When editing quotas of a project in Horizon, the attributes Metadata
Items, Injected Files and Injected File Content Bytes seems obviously
to relate to the metadata service, but is their usage documented anywhere.
I couldn't find much out there. Which of those attributes are relevant to
OpenStack and which are legacy, and what are the pro's and con's of editing
them when setting up projects?
Many thanks in advance for any information and apologies if I have missed
some obvious docs.

Boris
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Re: [Openstack] [nova] [cinder] Nova-volume vs. Cinder in Folsom

2012-07-26 Thread Lloyd Dewolf
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote:

 Using the user committee setup, you don't really need to take
 authority away from the PTL. You increase the influence of the users
 on technical decisions. You just provide a clear and official mechanism
 to represent the interests of the users as a whole. Once you have
 that, if the PTL or technical committee decides to ignore it, it's a
 rather strong decision that better has to be well justified. Its better
 than having some arbitrary percentage of users in a single committee
 and then have most decisions won by the most largely represented party.

 If the user committee is an active and respected group, it provides nice
 checks and balances against developers living in developer bubbles. Most
 issues we have right now with deployer-friendliness are linked to the
 fact that the users don't have a clear or official voice.

 The trick is, of course, to manage to set up such a committee in a way
 that represents all the users and deployers. It will be all the more
 influential if it is seen as representing all the users, rather than
 just a loosely-tied pre-determined subset of large users.

I generally agree with your thoughts around a user committee.


For my benefit, I'd love to get a feel for what we're doing to make
development user friendly?


In my fantasies for the Grizzly release it would start something like:

A. Grizzly Summit

B. From the summit the Tech Committee  PTL have community consensus
on the overarching goal for the release and the projects' goals.
Articulated online in user friendly manner.

C. Webinar / OpenStack User Groups get a presentation on the release
goals, and channels for input and participation.

D. About the half way point in release schedule, development adjusts
the online communication to reflect reality, presents an update, and
again channels for input and participation.


How do things work today?  I haven't found much in the wiki.


Thanks,
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Re: [Openstack] [OpenStack Foundation] Individual Nominations for Foundation Board of Directors

2012-07-26 Thread Lloyd Dewolf
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Jonathan Bryce jbr...@rackspace.com wrote:
 We have been trying to be open, posting nominations to the page as they come 
 in, sending out emails and tweets to encourage people to nominate, and 
 notifying nominees as they are nominated. If anyone wants to make their 
 nomination public in addition to notifying the secretary they're welcome to 
 do so, ...

Thank you everyone for the continued fantastic job!

Who receives email sent to secret...@openstack.org? Sorry, I missed
who is the acting secretary. It might be nice to include the person's
name on the page:
http://www.openstack.org/community/openstack-foundation-board-2012-election-candidates/
.

Is there currently a draft application being used? Until the actual
application is developed: 4.2 (d) (iii) the nominee must have
completed an application for a director with information determined by
the Board of Directors

Although not currently required by the bylaws after the board is
established I'd love to revisit public nominations, as typically
political nominations are public record. Unnecessary, but consistency
is elegance. I'd be very interested to hear arguments against.


Thanks,
Lloyd
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@lloyddewolf
http://www.pistoncloud.com/

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[Openstack] [keystone] Multi-tenants per user, authentication tokens and global roles

2012-07-26 Thread Ryan Lane
I'm working on upgrading to essex, which means I need to start using
keystone. My use case seems to not fit keystone very well, though...

In my environment, one user can be a member of many projects (some
users are in up to 20-30 projects). Management of projects is done
nearly completely though the web interface, and users may work on
resources in multiple projects at the same time. Our web interface can
show all or a subset of user's project's resources in the same view.

In Nova, using the EC2 API, I could query all resources for a user on
their behalf using an admin user, or I could use their access/secret
key and change the tenant for requesting each project.

From what I can tell in Keystone, when a user authenticates, they get
a token directly linked with a tenant. If I want to do API calls on a
user's behalf in a tenant, I must authenticate them for that tenant.
It seems there's no way for me to make requests on a user's behalf for
multiple projects without authenticating them for every single tenant.
Is this the case? Is there any way for me to handle this? I'd really
like to avoid authenticating a user 30 times on login, then needing to
store all 30 of their tokens.

I have another issue as well. My environment is meant to be integrated
and more of a private-style cloud. We have a group of administrators
that should be able to manage all instances, networks, etc. In Nova's
auth there were global groups. In Keystone there are no global groups.
Will this ever be added into keystone? It's really annoying to need to
constantly add/remove ourselves from projects to manage them.

- Ryan

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[Openstack] RFC: Removing iscsitarget from nova/cinder.

2012-07-26 Thread Chuck Short
Hi,

I was wondering if there is an aversion to remove ietadm support
from folsom.

I have checked the iscsitarget sourceforge site and there
hasn't been a new version of iscsitarget in about 2 years. The kernel
module doesn't compile on recent versions of Ubuntu. Since tgt is our
preferred iscsi target user-space tool as well. Looking at Fedora/Red
Hat documentation, tgt seems to be the default. Im assuming it is the
same for other distributions as well.

As well as the above, tgt seems to be the default for devstack and tgt
is also the default iscsi target tool for folsom. 

Comments, questions, hate mail?

Regards
chuck 

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Re: [Openstack] [keystone] Multi-tenants per user, authentication tokens and global roles

2012-07-26 Thread Adam Young

On 07/26/2012 08:30 PM, Ryan Lane wrote:

I'm working on upgrading to essex, which means I need to start using
keystone. My use case seems to not fit keystone very well, though...

In my environment, one user can be a member of many projects (some
users are in up to 20-30 projects). Management of projects is done
nearly completely though the web interface, and users may work on
resources in multiple projects at the same time. Our web interface can
show all or a subset of user's project's resources in the same view.

In Nova, using the EC2 API, I could query all resources for a user on
their behalf using an admin user, or I could use their access/secret
key and change the tenant for requesting each project.

From what I can tell in Keystone, when a user authenticates, they get
a token directly linked with a tenant. If I want to do API calls on a
user's behalf in a tenant, I must authenticate them for that tenant.
It seems there's no way for me to make requests on a user's behalf for
multiple projects without authenticating them for every single tenant.
Is this the case? Is there any way for me to handle this? I'd really
like to avoid authenticating a user 30 times on login, then needing to
store all 30 of their tokens.


Not in Essex.  When we discussed the Domains blueprint,  one issue that 
I brought up was nested groups/projects.  That would solve your 
problem.  It is not currently being developed.




I have another issue as well. My environment is meant to be integrated
and more of a private-style cloud. We have a group of administrators
that should be able to manage all instances, networks, etc. In Nova's
auth there were global groups. In Keystone there are no global groups.
Will this ever be added into keystone? It's really annoying to need to
constantly add/remove ourselves from projects to manage them.
Again, this is really a group nesting problem.  I am not sure if the 
domain blueprint would help you out here:

https://review.openstack.org/#/c/8114/
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/keystone-domains
http://etherpad.openstack.org/keystone-domains



- Ryan

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Re: [Openstack] [keystone] Multi-tenants per user, authentication tokens and global roles

2012-07-26 Thread Ryan Lane
 Not in Essex.  When we discussed the Domains blueprint,  one issue that I
 brought up was nested groups/projects.  That would solve your problem.  It
 is not currently being developed.


Ok. I can deal with handling tens of thousands of tokens, but I need
some way to ensure a user doesn't need to continuously authenticate
when changing between projects. I'm totally fine saving a long-lived
token that can be used for authentication, then re-authenticating with
that token to receive other project tokens. This way the web interface can use
the long-lived token on the user's behalf for authentication between projects.

I'm using the LDAP backend. I'm assuming I'm going to have to modify
the authenticate method to handle this. Would doing this be enough to
make this work, or will I need to patch more extensively for this solution?

I definitely want to solve this legitimately for folsom or grizzly as
this completely breaks my use case (and likely the use case of most
private cloud users).

 Again, this is really a group nesting problem.  I am not sure if the domain
 blueprint would help you out here:
 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/8114/
 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/keystone-domains
 http://etherpad.openstack.org/keystone-domains


I can likely live with adding/removing admins from groups. I'd prefer
not to, but we require this to some extent right now anyway. I'd
definitely like to resolve this by grizzly at least, though.

- Ryan

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