Re: [Openstack] Gold Member Election Update

2012-08-16 Thread Jonathan Bryce
Hi everyone,

The Gold Members completed their election today. DLA Piper administered the 
election and has passed along the results. The eight elected companies and the 
individuals they intend to appoint to the board are listed alphabetically below:

Cisco - Lew Tucker
Cloudscaling - Randy Bias
Dell - John Igoe
Dreamhost - Simon Anderson
ITRI/CCAT - Dr. Tzi-cker Chiueh
Mirantis - Boris Renski
Piston - Joshua McKenty
Yahoo! - Sean Roberts

Thanks,

Jonathan


On Aug 8, 2012, at 5:22 AM, john_i...@dell.com john_i...@dell.com wrote:

 Recently the gold member formation committee met to discuss the election of 
 directors for the gold members and agreed on the mechanics and timing of our 
 election. We will be holding our election using cumulative voting the week 
 before the individual member elections. There was some earlier discussion on 
 the list about the ordering of director selection, and this will make it 
 clear who will be the gold directors by the end of the week before the 
 individual member elections open.
 
 Because we have a small number of members, the election will be administered 
 by the Foundation's legal counsel at DLA Piper. There are a total of 11 gold 
 members at this point in time and 8 board members will be elected. They will 
 tally our votes and publish the results. We expect to complete the voting on 
 a single day during the week of August 13th, although the exact date has not 
 yet been set.
 
 Please let us know if you have any questions regarding this effort.
 
 Openstack Foundation Gold Member Formation Committee:
 
 Randy Bias
 Joshua McKenty
 Adam Waters
 Dale David
 Boris Renski
 Cliff Young
 John Igoe
 Lew Tucker
 Mark Collier
 Simon Anderson
 Sean Roberts
 Alan Clark
 Patrick Fu
 Winston Damarillo
 
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Re: [Openstack-poc] Next meeting: proposal to get openstack-common a proper PTL

2012-08-07 Thread Jonathan Bryce
Oops! My last week has been a little crazy. Thanks for straightening me out.  = 
)

Jonathan


On Aug 7, 2012, at 3:41 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote:

 Jonathan Bryce wrote:
 Does everyone want to cover this and the supporting projects definition 
 tomorrow? Anything else? Heat incubation?
 
 We actually voted on the supporting projects definition last week :)
 And Heat asked to be considered a few weeks after the Grizzly design
 summit, so it's still a bit early.
 
 So the only thing on the agenda so far is openstack-common PTLification.
 
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[Openstack] Individual Member Elections

2012-07-29 Thread Jonathan Bryce
The OpenStack Foundation has already attracted over 2,000 Individual Members in 
a little over a week. It's a very exciting moment for all of us involved in 
this effort, but also brings responsibility for each Individual and Corporate 
member.

We've learned that someone may have violated the basic principles that hold 
this community together by trying to affect the nominations for the Individual 
Member elections. This is not what our community stands for, and we do not want 
to let the actions of one or a few tarnish the reputation of the thousands of 
individuals who are working to make OpenStack a great place to develop open 
source software. We are so determined to uphold our values that every 
member--individual or corporate--agrees to a code of conduct that prohibits 
abusive behavior and attempts to manipulate our elections.

Our bylaws and election process have been defined and overseen by very 
experienced, independent legal counsel, Mark Radcliffe. We are completely 
committed to ensuring this process is open, fair and legitimate in accordance 
with our bylaws and Delaware corporate law. To ensure that the process is open, 
fair and legitimate, we are looking for individuals who would like to volunteer 
to be inspectors through the duration of the election to certify the outcome 
along with our counsel. No more than two affiliated members (working for the 
same company) can be inspectors, and any candidates who wish to run for 
election are also ineligible to be inspectors. As stated in the bylaws, Each 
inspector, before entering upon the discharge of his duties, shall take and 
sign an oath to faithfully execute the duties of inspector with strict 
impartiality and according to the best of his ability. This will require a 
firm time commitment from any volunteers, as they will need to be available at 
a number of points through the process to fulfill their duties in a timely 
manner. If you are interested in being an inspector, let me know.

Any complaints or concerns about the election process are taken extremely 
seriously. Each complaint will be reviewed by our independent counsel and 
addressed or brought before the full Board at its first meeting as appropriate. 
To facilitate reporting we have created an email address that is received only 
by the Foundation's independent counsel for review: 
electionmoni...@openstack.org

We are also working on process improvements for nominations and elections--more 
details on that coming soon. In the meantime, please speak up or contact me or 
Mark Radcliffe directly if you have any concerns. We have all come a very long 
way in establishing the OpenStack Foundation--our Foundation--and are right on 
the threshold of having it up and running. Now is the time for us all to pull 
together and to make sure we continue to build the kind of inclusive, 
supportive community that has come so far in the last 2 years.

Thanks,

Jonathan
210-317-2438


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Re: [Openstack] [OpenStack Foundation] Individual Member Elections

2012-07-29 Thread Jonathan Bryce
On Jul 29, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Rick Clark wrote:
 Jonathon,
 How is it possible for someone to taint the nomination process?  Are we
 not allowed to promote our nominations? In light of the fact that the
 process is closed and we can't know how many nominations we had
 received, it seems fine to me to encourage nominations.  Have some
 unwritten rules been broken, I am completely confused?

Certainly no rules against promoting your nomination or candidacy (or someone 
else's for that matter). Campaign away! The situation in question is a 
completely different matter and involves a serious allegation of harassment 
that we are still trying to get details on.

 Saying someone
 violated the basic principles that hold our community together is an
 extreme statement. Our community does things in the open, by default.
 Had we followed our basic principles in this nomination process, I
 can't help but think we wouldn't be in this situation.

I agree that our tools and processes can get better and more transparent, and 
as I mentioned below, we are working on that. Hope to have an update later 
today or tomorrow on that to send out. I am not sure that it would have 
prevented this situation as it involves behavior outside of the mechanics of 
the nominations.

Jonathan


 
 
 Rick
 
 
 
 On 07/29/2012 01:18 AM, Jonathan Bryce wrote:
 The OpenStack Foundation has already attracted over 2,000 Individual Members 
 in a little over a week. It's a very exciting moment for all of us involved 
 in this effort, but also brings responsibility for each Individual and 
 Corporate member.
 
 We've learned that someone may have violated the basic principles that hold 
 this community together by trying to affect the nominations for the 
 Individual Member elections. This is not what our community stands for, and 
 we do not want to let the actions of one or a few tarnish the reputation of 
 the thousands of individuals who are working to make OpenStack a great place 
 to develop open source software. We are so determined to uphold our values 
 that every member--individual or corporate--agrees to a code of conduct that 
 prohibits abusive behavior and attempts to manipulate our elections.
 
 Our bylaws and election process have been defined and overseen by very 
 experienced, independent legal counsel, Mark Radcliffe. We are completely 
 committed to ensuring this process is open, fair and legitimate in 
 accordance with our bylaws and Delaware corporate law. To ensure that the 
 process is open, fair and legitimate, we are looking for individuals who 
 would like to volunteer to be inspectors through the duration of the 
 election to certify the outcome along with our counsel. No more than two 
 affiliated members (working for the same company) can be inspectors, and any 
 candidates who wish to run for election are also ineligible to be 
 inspectors. As stated in the bylaws, Each inspector, before entering upon 
 the discharge of his duties, shall take and sign an oath to faithfully 
 execute the duties of inspector with strict impartiality and according to 
 the best of his ability. This will require a firm time commitment from any 
 volunteers, as they will need to be available at a number
 of points through the process to fulfill their duties in a timely manner. If 
 you are interested in being an inspector, let me know.
 
 Any complaints or concerns about the election process are taken extremely 
 seriously. Each complaint will be reviewed by our independent counsel and 
 addressed or brought before the full Board at its first meeting as 
 appropriate. To facilitate reporting we have created an email address that 
 is received only by the Foundation's independent counsel for review: 
 electionmoni...@openstack.org
 
 We are also working on process improvements for nominations and 
 elections--more details on that coming soon. In the meantime, please speak 
 up or contact me or Mark Radcliffe directly if you have any concerns. We 
 have all come a very long way in establishing the OpenStack Foundation--our 
 Foundation--and are right on the threshold of having it up and running. Now 
 is the time for us all to pull together and to make sure we continue to 
 build the kind of inclusive, supportive community that has come so far in 
 the last 2 years.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jonathan
 210-317-2438
 
 
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Re: [Openstack] [OpenStack Foundation] Individual Nominations for Foundation Board of Directors

2012-07-27 Thread Jonathan Bryce

On Jul 26, 2012, at 6:05 PM, Lloyd Dewolf wrote:
 Who receives email sent to secret...@openstack.org? Sorry, I missed
 who is the acting secretary. It might be nice to include the person's
 name on the page:
 http://www.openstack.org/community/openstack-foundation-board-2012-election-candidates/

We added some additional content to the top of the page to answer the questions 
raised on this thread. We also updated the nominee listing to designate which 
ones have reached the necessary number of nominations and to make it easier to 
throw a nomination towards those who are still in need of more. I plan on 
sending out another email promoting the page to the ~openstack group in 
launchpad to make sure that the previous body of voters is fully aware of the 
new election.

 Is there currently a draft application being used? Until the actual
 application is developed: 4.2 (d) (iii) the nominee must have
 completed an application for a director with information determined by
 the Board of Directors

We are still developing this and any input or feedback is welcome. If you want 
to take the lead on it, that would be much appreciated as well. Several 
suggested doing something similar to the Spring PPB election which, in addition 
to basic census information, asked the following questions:

- Since the last elections, what areas have you focused on and what 
contributions have you made in order to improve your project?
- What are the most pressing/important issues facing your project?
- What is your relationship to OpenStack  why is its success important to you 
and/or your company?

Perhaps adjusting the first two questions to be more applicable to board-level 
activities is a place to start.

Thoughts?

Jonathan


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Re: [Openstack] [OpenStack Foundation] Individual Nominations for Foundation Board of Directors

2012-07-27 Thread Jonathan Bryce
On Jul 27, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Soren Hansen wrote:
 Sorry if it's already been made clear somewhere, but I'm unsure for
 what term these individuals are being elected? The bylaws say that the
 election happens each year in the first two weeks of January, so is
 this an election to fill the seats until the first ordinary election
 in January?

Correct. This is what the nominations page 
(http://www.openstack.org/community/openstack-foundation-board-2012-election-candidates/)
 says currently:

The seats for Individual Member Directors serving in 2012 will come up for 
election in 2013, but they may be nominated and reelected indefinitely. The 
next election for Individual Member Directors will take place during the first 
two weeks of January 2013.

If you think there's a clearer way to word it, let me know,

Jonathan


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[Openstack] Individual Nominations for Foundation Board of Directors

2012-07-25 Thread Jonathan Bryce
Hi everyone, 

Last Wednesday we started accepting Individual Members for the OpenStack 
Foundation. We've had an excellent response so far with well over 1,000 
Individual Members joining in the first week. I wanted to share some important 
information about how to nominate and elect the Individual Members for the 
Board of Directors. The deadline to nominate Individual Directors--August 6--is 
coming very quickly. 

Directors elected by the Individual Members will make up 1/3 of the Board or 8 
of the 24 seats. You must be an Individual Member to nominate, vote or run for 
an Individual Member position on the Board of Directors. You can become an 
Individual Member on our website: http://www.openstack.org/join/

Elections for the Individual Directors will take place August 20-24. To vote in 
the initial Board election, you must join as an Individual Member by August 15. 
To appear on the ballot, an Individual Member must receive nominations from 10 
other Individual Members. The deadline to nominate an Individual Member is 
August 6, and all nominations are submitted via email to 
secret...@openstack.org.

We have created a basic page with initial nominees on it, and will be reaching 
out to nominees so they can add additional information about themselves. To see 
who is being nominated so you can support current nominees (who need 10 
nominations) or recommend additional candidates, go to 
http://www.openstack.org/community/openstack-foundation-board-2012-election-candidates/
 

Let us know if you have any questions,

Jonathan
210-317-2438
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[Openstack] OpenStack Foundation Initial Sign Up Period

2012-07-19 Thread Jonathan Bryce
Hi everyone,

We've been making great progress on the formation of the OpenStack Foundation: 
Individual Members can register now at http://openstack.org/join. 

The drafting committee has completed their work, and we have a complete set of 
legal documents. Our Bylaws, with appendices, and Member agreements are now 
posted online on http://www.openstack.org/legal/.

We've all worked very hard as a community to reach this point, and it's an 
exciting moment for all of us. In just two years, OpenStack has been 
established as one of the most important and fast-growing open source projects 
to date. We're witnessing an historic moment and should all take pride in 
having a part in shaping it.

Individual contributors, here are steps you can now take to secure 
representation in the OpenStack Foundation:

1. Join as an Individual Member: http://www.openstack.org/join by August 15
2. Nominate an Individual for the Board of Directors: Send nominations to 
secret...@openstack.org by August 6 (candidates require 10 nominations to 
appear on the ballot)
2. Vote for Individuals to be on the Board of Directors: Elections take place 
August 20-24

To provide more context, the following is a full list of key dates and 
milestones through the formation of the Foundation:

- July 18 - Initial Platinum, Gold  Individual membership sign up period opens
- July 18 - Nomination period for Individual member board directors opens
- August 6 - Nomination period for Individual member board directors closes
- August 15 - Initial Platinum, Gold  Individual membership sign up period 
closes
- August 20-24 - Gold  Individual Board director elections
- August 27 - Initial Board meeting via teleconference - operational setup
- September - Begin operational transition
- October 15 - First regular quarterly Board meeting at OpenStack Summit

Today marks a huge milestone! Thank you so much to each of you who helped to 
drive this process forward and define the framework for our community,

Jonathan
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Re: [Openstack] Ceilometer application for incubation

2012-07-05 Thread Jonathan Bryce
Thanks, Nick. I've added it to the agenda for next Tuesday's meeting at 20:00 
UTC/3:00 PM CDT. If you can join the meeting to field any questions, that would 
be helpful.

Jonathan


On Jul 5, 2012, at 12:52 PM, Nick Barcet wrote:

 Dear members of the Project Policy Board,
 
 After 3 month of work on the Ceilometer project, and great progress
 being made, our last meeting IRC meeting [1] validated that we should be
 submitting this project for incubation.  Following the OpenStack project
 rules, we have completed the incubation application form which you will
 find at [2].
 
 We would be happy to answer any question you may have about our
 application and hope that you will give a favorable answer to our request.
 
 [1]
 http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2012/openstack-meeting.2012-07-05-16.00.html
 [2] http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/Proposed/Ceilometer
 
 On behalf of the Ceilometer project team,
 --
 Nick Barcet nick.bar...@canonical.com
 aka: nijaba, nicolas
 
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[Openstack-poc] Tomorrow's meeting

2012-06-25 Thread Jonathan Bryce
No new topics were raised and the discussion on the TC is occurring on the 
mailing list, so no meeting tomorrow.

Please weigh in on the mailing list discussion if you have strong feelings on 
the TC structure.

Jonathan


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Re: [Openstack] Design summit feedback?

2012-04-19 Thread Jonathan Bryce
Hi Josh,

We'll be sending out a survey after the conference wraps up and would love to 
collect your feedback. We also read emails, wiki pages, blog posts, tweets, 
postal mail and sky writing if you have a different preferred method of 
providing it.

Jonathan.

Joshua Harlow harlo...@yahoo-inc.com wrote:

Hi all,

Hope everyone had a super-awesome design summit.

Is there a place where we can give feedback on what people think worked/didn't 
work at the summit.

I have some (many) suggestions and was wondering if there is a place for this?

-Josh

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[Openstack-poc] Meeting tomorrow

2012-04-09 Thread Jonathan Bryce
We have 2 requests to use openstack.org for community-related technical 
projects: one for satellite projects and one as the package name for a java 
library. Would you all prefer to discuss tomorrow at 3:00 PM CDT/20:00 UTC or 
over email?

Jonathan.


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[Openstack-poc] Meeting tomorrow

2012-03-26 Thread Jonathan Bryce
Anyone have anything they would like to discuss tomorrow? After the Essex crush 
is over, I'd like to discuss the Technical Committee, but I would say do it 
after this week unless anyone objects. Thierry has a draft in the wiki: 
http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/Foundation/TechnicalCommittee

I think there are a couple of points that are still worth debating:

1) PTL membership on the Technical Committee

2) The concept of a Technical Member

We'll have some more discussion on the general mailing list on this, but I 
wanted to bring it to the current PPB's attention specifically in case you're 
not following the other closely.

Jonathan.


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[Openstack-poc] Any topics?

2012-03-12 Thread Jonathan Bryce
Anyone have topics for tomorrow?

Jonathan.


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Re: [Openstack-poc] Design summit status update

2012-03-12 Thread Jonathan Bryce
Copying Stef so he can chime in.

On Mar 12, 2012, at 2:30 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote:

 Joshua McKenty wrote:
 I'd love to get an update on the status of the summit - invite codes,
 attendance, and session planning. But we can do that offline.
 
 I'll let Stefano give an update on invite codes / attendance.
 
 For the sessions, the session proposal website will be open tomorrow
 (announced during the projectrelease meeting). Like for Boston,
 sessions will be proposed on the site and reviewed by track leads.
 
 We are still looking for a volunteer to organize/promote/handle the
 lightning talks (after lunch every day).
 
 Let me know if you have more questions,
 
 -- 
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 Release Manager, OpenStack
 
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Re: [Openstack] [OpenStack Foundation] Foundation Structure: An Alternative

2012-03-09 Thread Jonathan Bryce
 On Friday, March 9, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Thor Wolpert wrote:
 
 I thought a Foundation that paid for legal, marketing and core
 services; along with a hosted set of projects whose membership was
 based upon meritocracy was the model.

That is and always has been the plan and can be seen in the existing detailed 
structure proposal: http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/Foundation/Structure

I think Josh is really focusing more on the details of membership on the Board, 
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Re: [Openstack-poc] Meeting tomorrow

2012-03-06 Thread Jonathan Bryce
Didn't see anything on the list or wiki, so no meeting today.

Jonathan.


On Mar 5, 2012, at 8:43 AM, Jonathan Bryce wrote:

 Good catch. Added him as well. Sorry, Dan!
 
 On Mar 5, 2012, at 8:08 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote:
 
 Jonathan Bryce wrote:
 Anything we need to discuss? Read through the logs from last week's meeting 
 and couldn't tell if Monty still needed something from us to move forward 
 with the Satellite CI project.
 
 Also, welcome to Joe Heck, the new Keystone PTL and Brian Waldon the new 
 Glance PTL. Results from the elections are available online if you haven't 
 seen them: http://etherpad.openstack.org/xSWPqf6DWE
 
 Should we now add DanW (as Quantum PTL) as well ?
 
 -- 
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[Openstack-poc] Topics for tomorrow?

2012-02-27 Thread Jonathan Bryce
Anyone have anything to talk about for tomorrow?


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Re: [Openstack-poc] Topics for tomorrow?

2012-02-27 Thread Jonathan Bryce
Copying in Lauren, Lloyd and Stef. We have a start of an event listing in the 
wiki: http://wiki.openstack.org/OpenStackUsersGroup/EssexGlobalHackIn

Perhaps we can get people to add their office hours and promote more?

Jonathan.


On Feb 27, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Ewan Mellor wrote:

 I'd like to see a list of global bug day events, and who's going to be online 
 when, so that we can publicize widely.  It would be great to be able to say 
 something like:
 
  o  Monty Taylor, CI and QA expert, will be on-site at HP in Austin and 
 online between 11am and 5pm Central.
  o  Vish Ishaya, Nova PTL, will be on-site at RCB in San Francisco etc and so 
 on.
 
 Is this something that the PPB could / should co-ordinate?  I would love for 
 the bug day to be a really public visible event, make it clear to everyone 
 that Essex is going to be awesome.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Ewan.
 
 -Original Message-
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 bounces+ewan.mellor=citrix@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of
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 Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 8:58 AM
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 Subject: [Openstack-poc] Topics for tomorrow?
 
 Anyone have anything to talk about for tomorrow?
 
 
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[Openstack-poc] Meeting reminder

2012-02-20 Thread Jonathan Bryce
This is just a reminder that we agreed last week to meet again this week to 
review progress on Quantum incubation and the questions that were posed. It 
sounds like there's definitely been progress on the Quantum+Melange and the 
nova-network plan. Dan, feel free to send along any information that you'd like.

Jonathan.


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[Openstack-poc] Meeting tomorrow

2012-02-13 Thread Jonathan Bryce
I know it's slightly past the 2 pm cutoff, but would like to go ahead and meet 
tomorrow to discuss Quantum. Dan is interested in getting Quantum promoted to 
core for the Folsom release cycle and we need to review soon if we're going to 
make it. I updated the agenda on the wiki.

Jonathan.
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Re: [Openstack-poc] Meeting tomorrow

2012-01-30 Thread Jonathan Bryce
Thanks, Jason.

Jay, do you still want to discuss this live tomorrow?



On Jan 30, 2012, at 3:45 PM, Jason Kölker wrote:

 On Mon, 2012-01-30 at 13:11 -0500, Jay Pipes wrote:
 Would it be possible to get an update on the OpenStack Common project
 from Jason/MarkM/DanW? I'm interested to learn what progress has been
 made and whether we can expect to see more common code alignment in
 Essex or Folsom...
 
 I think Folsom is more likely to start seeing some more common code. Dan
 gave us some pointers to things in Quantum that he'd like to see ported
 over to common. Rajaram was going to start looking into adding a
 notification system with plugins, not sure if any progress has been made
 on that front.
 
 I can only speak for myself, but I unfortunately won't be able to spend
 much time on it until after we finish our launch, but after that I'm
 going to make sure I get some time set aside in a few sprints to start
 pulling things in and proposing for incubation. First on my list would
 be using entry_points for defining services/daemons and console_scripts
 dynamically.
 
 Happy Hacking!
 
 7-11
 


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Re: [Openstack-poc] Meeting tomorrow

2012-01-30 Thread Jonathan Bryce
Sounds good. Since we didn't have any other items before the cutoff, no meeting 
tomorrow.


On Jan 30, 2012, at 5:49 PM, Jay Pipes wrote:

 No, that's fine as a status update. No need to bring this up tomorrow.
 
 Thanks Jason!
 -jay
 
 On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Jonathan Bryce jbr...@jbryce.com wrote:
 Thanks, Jason.
 
 Jay, do you still want to discuss this live tomorrow?
 
 
 
 On Jan 30, 2012, at 3:45 PM, Jason Kölker wrote:
 
 On Mon, 2012-01-30 at 13:11 -0500, Jay Pipes wrote:
 Would it be possible to get an update on the OpenStack Common project
 from Jason/MarkM/DanW? I'm interested to learn what progress has been
 made and whether we can expect to see more common code alignment in
 Essex or Folsom...
 
 I think Folsom is more likely to start seeing some more common code. Dan
 gave us some pointers to things in Quantum that he'd like to see ported
 over to common. Rajaram was going to start looking into adding a
 notification system with plugins, not sure if any progress has been made
 on that front.
 
 I can only speak for myself, but I unfortunately won't be able to spend
 much time on it until after we finish our launch, but after that I'm
 going to make sure I get some time set aside in a few sprints to start
 pulling things in and proposing for incubation. First on my list would
 be using entry_points for defining services/daemons and console_scripts
 dynamically.
 
 Happy Hacking!
 
 7-11
 
 


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[Openstack-poc] Tuesday meeting

2012-01-15 Thread Jonathan Bryce
Nothing on the agenda at this point. If you've got something you'd like to add, 
put it on the wiki or send an email before 2000 UTC tomorrow. Thanks,

Jonathan.


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[Openstack-poc] Topics for tomorrow?

2011-12-05 Thread Jonathan Bryce
Anyone have anything for tomorrow? I've got a conflict at the meeting time, so 
if you have a topic to discuss, you're probably also volunteering to run the 
meeting. = )

Jonathan.


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[Openstack-poc] Meeting today

2011-11-29 Thread Jonathan Bryce
Anyone have anything you'd like to discuss today?

Jonathan
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[Openstack-poc] Anyone have topics for today?

2011-11-22 Thread Jonathan Bryce
I don't have anything this week and it doesn't look like anyone else has added 
anything to the agenda. Do any of you have anything to discuss?

Jonathan.


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[Openstack-poc] PPB Meeting

2011-11-15 Thread Jonathan Bryce
Reminder that we have a PPB meeting scheduled at 2000UTC/2:00 PM CST. Does 
anyone have anything they'd like to cover?

One thing that might be worth discussing is a concern several people raised to 
me last week at Cloud Expo around the Essex release and having some sort of 
quality gate. It seems like a lot of people definitely want to avoid another 
release that isn't fully baked at release time. We may want to discuss if 
there's anything else we should start putting in place now towards that goal. 
Thoughts?

Jonathan.


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[Openstack-poc] Is it Tuesday again, already?

2011-10-11 Thread Jonathan Bryce
Anyone have any items to discuss? Looks like Mark Nottingham is taking some 
steps to move the API guideline discussion forward which was something we were 
going to touch base on after the conference. Anything else we should follow up 
on?

I need to send out a summary of our in-person meeting, but don't really have 
anything else.

Jonathan.
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Re: [Openstack-poc] Is it Tuesday again, already?

2011-10-11 Thread Jonathan Bryce
Let's skip this week then unless anyone objects. I think we'll have a few 
things to cover next week.

Jonathan.


On Oct 11, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Joshua McKenty wrote:

 I'll need another week with the followup to our FITS discussions before I'm 
 ready to bring it back to the PPB. I have some questions about how the PPB 
 will transition to the foundation, but I imagine that's more on the 
 foundation side of the discussion.
 
 Backport branches?
 
 I spoke with Todd Deshane about taking over the academic coordination 
 activities, but I'm behind on handing off all of those to him.
 
 Nothing else for me.
 
 Joshua McKenty
 Piston Cloud Computing, Inc.
 w: (650) 24-CLOUD
 m: (650) 283-6846
 jos...@pistoncloud.com
 
 On 2011-10-11, at 10:08 AM, Jonathan Bryce wrote:
 
 Anyone have any items to discuss? Looks like Mark Nottingham is taking some 
 steps to move the API guideline discussion forward which was something we 
 were going to touch base on after the conference. Anything else we should 
 follow up on?
 
 I need to send out a summary of our in-person meeting, but don't really have 
 anything else.
 
 Jonathan.
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[Openstack-poc] Meeting tomorrow

2011-10-03 Thread Jonathan Bryce
How do you all feel about doing our meeting tomorrow over lunch from 1:00-2:00? 
This seems to be about the only time that's clear. John Dickinson had the idea 
of putting it on sched as well so anyone interested can attend.

Let me know if this works for you all. Thanks,

Jonathan.
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Re: [Openstack-poc] Meeting tomorrow

2011-10-03 Thread Jonathan Bryce
Thierry, can you add it to the schedule for 1 tomorrow?

Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote:

++

On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Josh Kearney j...@jk0.org wrote:
 Works for me.

 On Oct 3, 2011, at 1:38 PM, Jonathan Bryce  jbr...@jbryce.com wrote:

 How do you all feel about doing our meeting tomorrow over lunch from 
 1:00-2:00? This seems to be about the only time that's clear. John 
 Dickinson had the idea of putting it on sched as well so anyone interested 
 can attend.

 Let me know if this works for you all. Thanks,

 Jonathan.
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[Openstack] Guidelines for OpenStack APIs

2011-09-18 Thread Jonathan Bryce
After the mailing list discussion around APIs a few weeks back, several 
community members asked the Project Policy Board to come up with a position on 
APIs. The conclusion of the PPB was that each project's PTL will own the 
definition and implementation of the project's official API, and APIs across 
all OpenStack projects should follow a set of guidelines that the PPB will 
approve. This will allow the APIs to be tied to the functionality in the 
project while ensuring a level of consistency and familiarity across all 
projects for API consumers.

We've started an Etherpad to collect input and comments on suggested 
guidelines. It's a little messy but proposed guidelines are set off with an 
asterisk (*):

http://etherpad.openstack.org/RFC-API-Guidelines

Feel free to add comments on the Etherpad, the list or give me feedback 
directly.

Jonathan.

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Re: [Openstack-poc] making ppb meetings better (?)

2011-09-12 Thread Jonathan Bryce
Thanks John for bringing this up and everyone for the input. This is good 
feedback. Here are a couple of my thoughts on it:

1) I agree that the meetings get rather chaotic at times. I would say that most 
of the time that situation is less related to non-PPB users and more related to 
those of us who are PPB members talking over each other. I can easily be more 
proactive about quieting down community members who might be drawing us off 
track. I don't think muting is actually a requirement for that. Thierry's 
suggestion around +v for those who want to have input may be a good 
implementation if just asking for cooperation doesn't solve it for community 
feedback. I'd also ask that we try to have more orderly discussions among 
ourselves and not just a speed-typing death battle royale.

2) I will start sending out a summary note to the full OpenStack list after 
meetings to try to have everyone be more informed and aware of what we're 
discussing.

3) Along the lines of getting community feedback, do you all think that we 
should move to a two-part process where we discuss, send to a summary to the 
community requesting comments and then vote? Should we just try to gather 
feedback before we ever discuss?

Jonathan.


On Sep 12, 2011, at 3:11 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote:

 John Dickinson wrote:
 I have found the PPB meetings to be very disjointed and hard to follow. A 
 classic example is from our last meeting where 3 votes were proposed and 
 only 2 were voted on. At times we have several conversations going on at 
 once. Sometimes we vote, someone continues the discussion, and then we 
 revote. It's possible that people offering support for an idea (with a +1) 
 may be counted in a vote, even if that person is not on the PPB. These sorts 
 of things tend to push the PPB meetings toward chaos.
 
 Yes, I agree. It's the meeting chair's job to keep it focused and on
 track, but that can be very difficult when the discussion gets out of
 hand (and it often does in the PPB meeting).
 
 1) What if during the PPB meetings only those people on the PPB were voiced 
 and could speak? I absolutely do not want to discourage valuable input from 
 people not on the PPB, so I think this would require meaningful time allowed 
 for public commentary where anyone and everyone can speak. One 
 implementation would be to mute all non-PPB members in the channel during a 
 vote. Another implementation would be to have designated non-PPB time about 
 each topic, perhaps after initial PPB member discussion. I think a more 
 moderated discussion could perhaps make better use of our limited meeting 
 time and help everyone be more clear on what is being discussed and voted on.
 
 That's difficult, because switching from public to private is always
 seen by people that want to comment as a way to silence them and shut
 down discussion. I've seen different IRC ways of working around that: a
 side chat channel that can be used to get direct community feedback,
 or temporary +v for people with an opinion suggested by members and
 granted by the chair, so that they can contribute to the discussion in a
 limited and controlled way.
 
 2) Can we have an official summary of the meetings published after each of 
 the meetings? The notes that the meetbot provides are sparse (at best) and 
 the raw IRC logs are voluminous and hard to read.
 
 Yes, communicating the decisions that were made to the people impacted
 by them seems to be a bare minimum.
 
 I would add that we should not vote or discuss on things that were not
 raised on the mailing-list first. We are a group of smart individuals
 but we can still miss a critical aspect on a given issue, getting
 general feedback from the list would (1) give us more data to decide on
 and (2) limit the critics of PPB taking decisions disconnected from reality.
 
 As an example, the API Coordinator topic we've had in the recent
 meetings is a proposed solution to a problem that was raised (at length)
 on the mailing-list. Not discussing the proposed solution there sounds
 like a big mistake to me. We should discuss problems *and* solutions
 with the rest of the community, and not allow people to bypass community
 discussion by going to the PPB directly.
 
 PPB members are still empowered to make hard decisions and we don't need
 consensus on the ML before deciding, but not giving the community a
 chance to raise concerns about a given proposal is unfair (and in some
 cases unproductive).
 
 -- 
 Thierry Carrez (ttx)
 Release Manager, OpenStack
 
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Re: [Openstack-poc] making ppb meetings better (?)

2011-09-12 Thread Jonathan Bryce
 3) Along the lines of getting community feedback, do you all think that we 
 should move to a two-part process where we discuss, send to a summary to the 
 community requesting comments and then vote? Should we just try to gather 
 feedback before we ever discuss?
 
 I'd suggest that for most things the order doesn't matter. However, if the 
 PPB discusses big things first, perhaps we can limit the scope of the 
 discussion and therefore actually get more consensus from the community. For 
 example, with VCS discussions, the community discussion could be limited to A 
 vs B rather than What's teh new hotness that all the ninja rockstar 
 programmers are using?

I agree. We often tend to refine or divide a topic up into multiple parts 
during initial discussion and that will probably help community feedback be 
more focused.
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Re: [Openstack] API Spec

2011-08-27 Thread Jonathan Bryce
This is on the agenda for Tuesday's policy board meeting (in #openstack-meeting 
1 hour before the weekly OpenStack team meeting for those interested). Sounds 
like a potentially acceptable solution is to set some cross-project API 
standards and then push the remainder of the API definition and implementation 
into each project. Then the API can progress with the underlying project's 
features as the developers see fit.

Jonathan.


On Aug 27, 2011, at 4:16 PM, Tim Bell wrote:

 I have an api, diablo nova v1.1.
 
 What we are talking about is if it covers 100% functionality.
 
 I can start my deployment testing with v1.1.  The limiting factor is not v1.1 
 vs v1.x for most sites. It is packaging, user exits and integration, not 
 whether feature X is in the latest API.
 
 Tim.
 
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 From: George Reese george.re...@enstratus.com
 To: Tim Bell tim.b...@cern.ch
 Cc: openstack@lists.launchpad.net openstack@lists.launchpad.net
 Subject: [Openstack] API Spec
 Date: Sat, Aug 27, 2011 20:47
 
 
 
 A cloud platform simply isn't functional without an API. It is a core 
 requirement.
 
 No API, no cloud.
 
 -George
 
 On Aug 27, 2011, at 7:04 PM, Tim Bell wrote:
 
  I'm also a non-API expert but getting a stable open cloud engine with a 
  reasonable API would seem to be a good target before we look to enhance it.
  
  There are lots of potential users of Nova (including Rackspace) who would 
  like to get Nova into production.  An API will fully exploits all of the 
  underlying functionality should be discussed/planned in the longer term but 
  let's get Diablo out and deployable first. 
  
  Tim Bell
  CERN
  
  
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[Openstack-poc] Meeting Items

2011-08-09 Thread Jonathan Bryce
We have several agenda items for today's meeting at 2000UTC/3:00 PM CDT: 
http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/PPB

1. Common project tooling and process (autonomy)
2. Github + Gerrit review
3. Deadline for Essex core projects applications

For Item 1, I have created a draft in the wiki: 
http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/Proposed/ProjectToolingAndPractices . 
Please review and let me know any feedback you have or if I missed any key 
points from the discussions.

I would like to take the content of that page and add it to the previously 
approved project page (http://wiki.openstack.org/ProjectTypes) which already 
discussed some of the philosophy issues.

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[Openstack-poc] Meeting tomorrow

2011-06-13 Thread Jonathan Bryce
As a reminder, we have a Policy Board meeting scheduled for tomorrow in the 
hour before the weekly team meeting. The Policy Board meeting is 2000 UTC/3:00 
PM CDT.

We currently have two incubation applications on the agenda. If you get an 
opportunity, please try to review them before the meeting tomorrow. Do you 
think we should try to have Sebastian and Devin present in the meeting to 
answer questions or discuss first without them?

Scalr incubation application - http://wiki.openstack.org/Scalr 
Dashboard incubation application - 
http://wiki.openstack.org/Projects/IncubatorApplication/OpenStackDashboard

Let me know if there's anything else you'd like to discuss,

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Re: [Openstack-poc] PPB meeting tomorrow

2011-04-15 Thread Jonathan Bryce
Earlier is fine with me if that makes it easier for others.

Does 1900 UTC/2:00 PM CDT Monday work as a new time for everyone?

Jonathan.


On Apr 14, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote:

 Soren Hansen wrote:
 Not sure why, but I didn't get Jonathan's original post in this thread.
 
 Anyways, a meeting on Friday evening at 11? Um... No :)
 
 Yes, this is also suboptimal for me, obviously... OK for Monday.
 
 Any chance we could move to slightly earlier in the day, like 1900 UTC
 (9pm in Europe, 12pm/2pm for Pacific/Central) ?
 
 -- 
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[Openstack-poc] PPB Meeting tomorrow

2011-04-06 Thread Jonathan Bryce
Anyone have any agenda items for tomorrow? Thierry has scheduled a session at 
the design summit to talk releases which was a pending item. I don't have 
anything else to discuss right now.

Jonathan.


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Re: [Openstack-poc] PPB Meeting

2011-03-24 Thread Jonathan Bryce
All right...in the absence of any strong votes to do it and several to skip, 
we'll skip this week. And I will get the calendar/reminders set up that we 
talked about last week. Thanks,

Jonathan.


On Mar 24, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Joshua McKenty wrote:

 Ill be running to the airport, so skipping it is better for me. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 2011-03-24, at 12:13, John Purrier j...@openstack.org wrote:
 
 I am OK with whatever the group decides.
 
 John
 
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 From: openstack-poc-bounces+john=openstack@lists.launchpad.net
 [mailto:openstack-poc-bounces+john=openstack@lists.launchpad.net] On
 Behalf Of Ewan Mellor
 Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 10:01 AM
 To: Jonathan Bryce; openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net
 Subject: Re: [Openstack-poc] PPB Meeting
 
 I don't have anything for the agenda -- happy to skip it.
 
 Ewan.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: openstack-poc-bounces+ewan.mellor=citrix@lists.launchpad.net
 [mailto:openstack-poc-
 bounces+ewan.mellor=citrix@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of
 Jonathan Bryce
 Sent: 24 March 2011 14:59
 To: openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net
 Subject: [Openstack-poc] PPB Meeting
 
 Hi guys,
 
 I'm traveling and got my days confused. I didn't realize it was
 Thursday until Chuck emailed me a few minutes ago. Vish is traveling
 too and I don't think either of us would be able to make the meeting
 today. I'm happy to have someone else run the meeting or to reschedule.
 Whichever you guys prefer. Just let me know.
 
 Sorry for dropping the ball on it!
 
 Jonathan.
 
 
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Re: [Openstack-poc] Meeting today

2011-03-17 Thread Jonathan Bryce
All right. Let's try for IRC. T minus 1 hour. That's how all you NASA related 
guys talk, right?

Jonathan.



On Mar 17, 2011, at 1:35 PM, Joshua McKenty wrote:

 +1 for that - can do IRC, am happy with email.
 
 
 Joshua McKenty
 Piston Cloud Computing, Inc.
 (650) 283-6846
 jos...@piston.cc
 
 
 
 On 2011-03-17, at 10:36 AM, Ewan Mellor wrote:
 
 I'm available today if you want to go ahead with this.  I don't mind just 
 following up with email though.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Ewan.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: openstack-poc-bounces+ewan.mellor=citrix@lists.launchpad.net
 [mailto:openstack-poc-
 bounces+ewan.mellor=citrix@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of
 Jonathan Bryce
 Sent: 17 March 2011 16:52
 To: openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net
 Subject: Re: [Openstack-poc] Meeting today
 
 Jesse said he would be able to do 20:00 UTC/3:00 PM CDT today. We have
 three items that we needed to close out on:
 
 1. Incubation/new project process -
 http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/Proposed/NewProjectProcess
 - Was updated to include comments and recommendations from last week's
 meeting.
 
 2. Standards body activity -
 http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/Proposed/StandardsCommittee
 - Seems like we generally agree we should reject for now and let
 individual companies handle this.
 
 3. Splitting existing project -
 http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/Proposed/SplitExistingProjectProce
 ss
 - This is a proposal that I put together based on the discussion of the
 topic in last week's meeting.
 
 They've all been discussed to some extent. We can vote on them this
 afternoon or vote over email. If we aren't going to have enough IRC
 participation this afternoon, it's probably easier/faster/more
 convenient to just handle them over email and skip today's meeting. If
 there are other items that anyone wants to discuss, I'm happy to go
 ahead with the meeting as well.
 
 One other thing: John Purrier has taken over Mark Interrante's
 appointed seat and is now a member.
 
 Let me know what you all want to do for today.
 
 Jonathan.
 
 
 
 On Mar 16, 2011, at 12:20 PM, Jonathan Bryce wrote:
 
 20:00 UTC is now 3:00 PM CDT. I think Jesse and Vish potentially had
 a recurring conflict with that time on Thursdays. Jesse, Vish, is that
 correct? I can do either. We've had low attendance the last couple of
 meetings, so I would like to find a time that actually works for
 people.
 
 Jonathan.
 
 
 On Mar 10, 2011, at 3:08 PM, Ewan Mellor wrote:
 
 Goddamn it.  I've just entered the channel at 21:00 UTC on the dot.
 I obviously missed the time change.  What did I miss?
 
 And are we sticking with 20:00 UTC from now on?  In particular, US
 clocks move this weekend for DST.
 
 Ewan.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: openstack-poc-
 bounces+ewan.mellor=citrix@lists.launchpad.net
 [mailto:openstack-poc-
 bounces+ewan.mellor=citrix@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of
 Jonathan Bryce
 Sent: 10 March 2011 16:26
 To: openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net
 Subject: [Openstack-poc] Meeting today
 
 We're scheduled for a meeting today at 20:00 UTC/2:00 PM CST. Who's
 going to be able to make it? I know several of you are traveling.
 
 Jonathan.
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Re: [Openstack-poc] Meeting today

2011-03-16 Thread Jonathan Bryce
20:00 UTC is now 3:00 PM CDT. I think Jesse and Vish potentially had a 
recurring conflict with that time on Thursdays. Jesse, Vish, is that correct? I 
can do either. We've had low attendance the last couple of meetings, so I would 
like to find a time that actually works for people.

Jonathan.


On Mar 10, 2011, at 3:08 PM, Ewan Mellor wrote:

 Goddamn it.  I've just entered the channel at 21:00 UTC on the dot.  I 
 obviously missed the time change.  What did I miss?
 
 And are we sticking with 20:00 UTC from now on?  In particular, US clocks 
 move this weekend for DST.
 
 Ewan.
 
 
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 We're scheduled for a meeting today at 20:00 UTC/2:00 PM CST. Who's
 going to be able to make it? I know several of you are traveling.
 
 Jonathan.
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[Openstack-poc] Meeting today

2011-03-10 Thread Jonathan Bryce
We're scheduled for a meeting today at 20:00 UTC/2:00 PM CST. Who's going to be 
able to make it? I know several of you are traveling.

Jonathan.
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Re: [Openstack-poc] Meeting this week

2011-02-17 Thread Jonathan Bryce
Reminder that we've got a meeting today at 2100UTC/3:00 PM central.

On Feb 15, 2011, at 11:02 AM, Jonathan Bryce wrote:

 In the meeting last week, we approved the 2011 Scope and Charter and 
 discussed the image format proposal and intermediate releases without any 
 final decision. John Purrier and others are discussing the Image Format 
 proposal for changes based off the feedback from Ewan. You can read the 
 minutes and logs from the meeting here:
 
 http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/POC/PocMeetingLogs
 
 Since we didn't get through everything, we wanted to meet again at the same 
 time this week--Thursday 2/17 at 2100 UTC/3:00 PM central. Here's the agenda 
 I have so far. Send me anything else you'd like to get on there.
 
 1) Continue release discussion - Current thought was to allow projects to 
 decide to do intermediate releases between major releases if needed and work 
 with the release manager to backport appropriate fixes and package a point 
 release.
 
 2) Google Summer of Code
 
 3) Incubation/new project process - We had an idea thrown out last week to 
 create a community of related projects that allowed developers to add 
 themselves and their code to a system like userscripts.org. The projects are 
 then voted up and down by the community and the relevant projects that are 
 the highest rated are candidates for inclusion as full OpenStack projects.
 
 Let me know if the time will not work for any of you. Thanks!
 
 Jonathan.
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