Re: [Openstack] [SPAM] Re: Creating a forum

2011-05-04 Thread Lorin Hochstein
On May 4, 2011, at 1:02 PM, Everett Toews wrote:

 On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Jordan Rinke jor...@openstack.org wrote:
 Because there is still debate over a forum or a QnA site I will wait to see 
 what the decision is tomorrow before making any demo sites for review. The 
 problem still is that the QnA solves a different issue, it provides a means 
 to answer very specific questions not a realm for discussion. A user forum 
 allows people to ask questions which require discussion and may have various 
 trade offs. Not just how do I get a list of all running instances using the 
 euca2ools which would be a great QnA question but questions like How do I 
 HA my mySQL DB for Nova a question that will involve discussion, multiple 
 potential answers based on their configuration and have trade offs depending 
 on what they are wanting. There will be no specifically right answer. I think 
 a number of people are failing to fully understand that not everyone is a 
 developer and not everyone has the understanding to ask a very specific and 
 provably solved question, and that not all questions are even specifically 
 solvable but that the discussion around those provides valuable information 
 for the community.
 
 Agreed, QnA sites are not designed for discussion just as forums are not 
 designed for QnA. There's actually a pretty succinct answer about it at 
 http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/36818/would-you-recommend-stack-exchange-sites-vs-other-types-of-forum

On Area 51 they use the QnA format to do discussions. If you click create new 
discussion on a proposal, it's equivalent to asking a question on a Stack 
Exchange site.

Here's an example discussion question from the computational science Area 51 
proposal: 
http://discuss.area51.stackexchange.com/questions/320/shall-we-unite-computational-science-proposals


Lorin
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Re: [Openstack] [SPAM] Re: Creating a forum

2011-05-04 Thread Lorin Hochstein


On May 4, 2011, at 3:49 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote:

 Vishvananda Ishaya wrote:
 A few people have mentioned the stack exchange style idea.  I think this
 is a fantastic idea; StackOverflow, etc. has been extremely useful to
 me. Since it is free to host a subdomain on StackExchange if there is
 enough support, we might as well get the ball rolling in addition.  This
 could replace or be in addition to a forum.
 
 It's usually very difficult to convince StackExchange that you can't fit
 in their software-agnostic sites like ServerFault and that you need a
 software-specific one like askubuntu.com. Ubuntu barely managed to
 convince them, thanks to to massive community involvement...
 
 But I guess that's worth a try :) We can always fall back to OSQA if
 need be.
 

We could also try just using an openstack tag on the ServerFault site. All we 
need is somebody with enough Server Fault rep to create the new tag. 

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Re: [Openstack] [SPAM] Re: Creating a forum

2011-05-04 Thread Everett Toews
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Lorin Hochstein lo...@isi.edu wrote:


 We could also try just using an openstack tag on the ServerFault site.
 All we need is somebody with enough Server Fault rep to create the new tag.


-1

IMO not an ideal solution. The OpenStack questions would get lost in the
noise of ServerFault. Newcomers would be totally confused.

I agree with Thierry, ...fall back to OSQA if need be.

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