Re: [Openstack] OpenStack (+ Quantum Deployment) Scenarios
Robert, yes, I'm sure in certain configurations and with certain tuning, one can potentially place all services on a single device, and Quantum supports that just fine as well. For the sake of documentation, we wanted to show the case where the two were separated, as this tends to be what we see deployed. Dan On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Robert Garron robert.gar...@access3000.netwrote: Dan, I see your point about throughput and I/O, but if you have a multi-core server, greater than say 4 cores, and thus likely you would have multiple NICs, 2 or More, your assumptions fall apart about the cpu usage and I/o. For example, using XEN or Qemu or in the older systems where this concept originated - VMS OS (from Digital Equipment Corp. - see Galaxy product and similar) you can assign affinity to CPUs or even dedicate CPU's to tasks or VM's. In addition, using Cisco networking or similar you can dedicated I/O paths, and within a system, you can even dedicated a NIC Card or Port to a path. So the deployment of OpenStack on one physical server or several should not even be a consideration except to the installer and their budget; and whether or not High Availability is a concern. What I think is important is the consistency of the network design, I/O design for multiple VM's and the related load and intended usage of the individual cores of a server. But the most important consistency is having installation guides that work over and over for installations on different hardware and OS's. Myself, if I can get past my current nova and horizon issues, I will then be in a position to contribute in this and many other areas Regards, Robert On 11/8/12 4:06 PM, Skible OpenStack wrote: Thank you Dan for shedding light on this matter. However, there is something concerns me and a lot of other people trying to deploy OpenStack is that most Servers has 2 NICs which creates a problem because your Demo is a great one but the necessary hardware is just not always met ! I have been struggling to find a solution out of it, can you suggest some please ? Le 08/11/2012 21:38, Dan Wendlandt a écrit : Hi, The Quantum Admin Guide indicates that you can choose to combine all services onto a single node, or have separate nodes: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-network/admin/content/services.html I will update the text to indicate that that the main reason to use a dedicated network gateway node is if you plan on having VMs send substantial amounts of traffic through that node, and thus would not want that CPU usage to conflict with other openstack services running on your controller node. dan On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Skible OpenStack skible.openst...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone please enlighten us about the goods of having a separated network node ? I honestly work in production envirnoments (over 30 nodes) and i really give computing resources more credit than networking ones ! Am i doing it the wrong way here ? Le 08/11/2012 18:49, balaji patnala a écrit : Hi Openers, One doubt i have is like, as we see in the demo setup in the Quantum Admin guide available in openstack.org, we have Network Node as a seperate physical node connected to Controller Node and Compute Node. But i see that the openstack community who is actively using Folsom is not discussing more on this kind of setup. Not sure if iam missing any key information on this like that the Network Node setup may not be widely used in current deployment scenarios or it is too early to use Network Node as a seperate physical host for openstack. Open comments on this will be more helpful for openstack community to understand better on the features of folsom. regards, balaji On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Skible OpenStack skible.openst...@gmail.com wrote: OpenStack Folsom install guidehttps://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Folsom-Install-guide/blob/master/OpenStack_Folsom_Install_Guide_WebVersion.rst You will find what you want and even more ;) Le 08/11/2012 14:30, Veera Reddy a écrit : Hi Skible, Can you please send me below configuration files of three setups you have mentioned. - ovs_quantum_plugin.ini (For controller and node) - nova.conf (For controller and node) Thanks in advance Regards, Veera. On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Skible OpenStack skible.openst...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Stackers ! I am currently trying to create pictures of my OpenStack deployment architecture as a part of my OpenStack Folsom install guidehttps://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Folsom-Install-guide/blob/master/OpenStack_Folsom_Install_Guide_WebVersion.rstand i would like to ask a favorite. Could you be kind and please take a look at these Pics below and report back if there is a missing or wrong thing. Thank you. ==Quantum on VLAN + 3 NICs on controller node http://i.imgur.com/Ueh5Z.jpg
Re: [Openstack] OpenStack (+ Quantum Deployment) Scenarios
and then... ping back from controller_ip(metata_ip) to your instance. if your instance has a private subnet you should manage the route back to instance. matadata traffic is connected to metadata_ip via DNAT iptables rule. so metadata api server should connect to instance directly. i have follow routing item to back to my instance. 172.16.1.0 10.100.1.130255.255.255.0 UG0 00 eth1 - 172.16.1.0/24: tenant's subnet - 10.100.1.130: tenant's default public ip for connect to internet -- Choe, Cheng-Dae http://blog.woosum.net twitter: kiddtm 2012. 11. 10., 오후 3:53, Veera Reddy veerare...@gmail.com 작성: Hi, In my setup metadata_ip is controller ip. I am able to ping to controller from network node. Regards, Veera. On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Choe, Cheng-Dae white...@gmail.com wrote: First. Ping to your metadata_ip in network router namespace. 2012년 11월 9일 금요일에 Veera Reddy님이 작성: Hi Skible, I followed the install guide https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Folsom-Install-guide/blob/master/OpenStack_Folsom_Install_Guide_WebVersion.rst I am able to bring up guest, but unable to get ip to guest vm from network node. Also attached respective configuraion files . Please help in finding the issue. My setup : Controller : (10.232.91.33) nova-api nova-cert nova-consoleauth nova-scheduler quantum-server Network Node:(10.232.90.222) quantum-plugin-openvswitch-agent quantum-dhcp-agent quantum-l3-agent Compute Node: (10.232.90.62) quantum-plugin-openvswitch-agent nova-compute controller-nova.conf attached compute_node-nova.conf attached compute-ovs_quantum_plugin.ini attached network_node_ovs_quantum_plugin.ini attached Thanks in advance Regards, Veera. On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Skible OpenStack skible.openst...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Stackers ! I am currently trying to create pictures of my OpenStack deployment architecture as a part of my OpenStack Folsom install guide and i would like to ask a favorite. Could you be kind and please take a look at these Pics below and report back if there is a missing or wrong thing. Thank you. ==Quantum on VLAN + 3 NICs on controller node http://i.imgur.com/Ueh5Z.jpg === ==Quantum on VLAN + 2 NICs on controller node http://i.imgur.com/RK6X7.jpg === ==Quantum on GRE-tunneling + 3 NICs on controller node=== http://i.imgur.com/1jCFC.jpg === To make of OpenStack, the IT project of the century Best regards ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Regards, VeeraReddy.B 9959236555. -- Choe, Cheng-Dae Blog: http://www.woosum.net -- Regards, VeeraReddy.B 9959236555. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] OpenStack (+ Quantum Deployment) Scenarios
as you know. I already setup my environment with below - controller: all the things except nova-compute, quantum-l3,dhcp-agent - network: quantum-l3-agent, quantum-dhcp-agent - compute*2: nova-compute and the chef installation was already opened in my github. please refer https://github.com/whitekid/openstack-chef because my lack of time. the documentation is missing :) If time allow i start write the architecture and network connectivity. 2012. 11. 9., 오전 6:06, Skible OpenStack skible.openst...@gmail.com 작성: Thank you Dan for shedding light on this matter. However, there is something concerns me and a lot of other people trying to deploy OpenStack is that most Servers has 2 NICs which creates a problem because your Demo is a great one but the necessary hardware is just not always met ! I have been struggling to find a solution out of it, can you suggest some please ? Le 08/11/2012 21:38, Dan Wendlandt a écrit : Hi, The Quantum Admin Guide indicates that you can choose to combine all services onto a single node, or have separate nodes: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-network/admin/content/services.html I will update the text to indicate that that the main reason to use a dedicated network gateway node is if you plan on having VMs send substantial amounts of traffic through that node, and thus would not want that CPU usage to conflict with other openstack services running on your controller node. dan On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Skible OpenStack skible.openst...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone please enlighten us about the goods of having a separated network node ? I honestly work in production envirnoments (over 30 nodes) and i really give computing resources more credit than networking ones ! Am i doing it the wrong way here ? Le 08/11/2012 18:49, balaji patnala a écrit : Hi Openers, One doubt i have is like, as we see in the demo setup in the Quantum Admin guide available in openstack.org, we have Network Node as a seperate physical node connected to Controller Node and Compute Node. But i see that the openstack community who is actively using Folsom is not discussing more on this kind of setup. Not sure if iam missing any key information on this like that the Network Node setup may not be widely used in current deployment scenarios or it is too early to use Network Node as a seperate physical host for openstack. Open comments on this will be more helpful for openstack community to understand better on the features of folsom. regards, balaji On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Skible OpenStack skible.openst...@gmail.com wrote: OpenStack Folsom install guide You will find what you want and even more ;) Le 08/11/2012 14:30, Veera Reddy a écrit : Hi Skible, Can you please send me below configuration files of three setups you have mentioned. ovs_quantum_plugin.ini (For controller and node) nova.conf (For controller and node) Thanks in advance Regards, Veera. On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Skible OpenStack skible.openst...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Stackers ! I am currently trying to create pictures of my OpenStack deployment architecture as a part of my OpenStack Folsom install guide and i would like to ask a favorite. Could you be kind and please take a look at these Pics below and report back if there is a missing or wrong thing. Thank you. ==Quantum on VLAN + 3 NICs on controller node http://i.imgur.com/Ueh5Z.jpg === ==Quantum on VLAN + 2 NICs on controller node http://i.imgur.com/RK6X7.jpg === ==Quantum on GRE-tunneling + 3 NICs on controller node=== http://i.imgur.com/1jCFC.jpg === To make of OpenStack, the IT project of the century Best regards ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Regards, VeeraReddy.B 9959236555. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- ~~~ Dan Wendlandt Nicira, Inc: www.nicira.com twitter: danwendlandt ~~~ ___ Mailing list:
Re: [Openstack] OpenStack (+ Quantum Deployment) Scenarios
Hi Skible, I followed the install guide https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Folsom-Install-guide/blob/master/OpenStack_Folsom_Install_Guide_WebVersion.rst I am able to bring up guest, but unable to get ip to guest vm from network node. Also attached respective configuraion files . Please help in finding the issue. My setup : Controller : (10.232.91.33) nova-api nova-cert nova-consoleauth nova-scheduler quantum-server Network Node:(10.232.90.222) quantum-plugin-openvswitch-agent quantum-dhcp-agent quantum-l3-agent Compute Node: (10.232.90.62) quantum-plugin-openvswitch-agent nova-compute controller-nova.conf attached compute_node-nova.conf attached compute-ovs_quantum_plugin.ini attached network_node_ovs_quantum_plugin.ini attached Thanks in advance Regards, Veera. On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Skible OpenStack skible.openst...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Stackers ! I am currently trying to create pictures of my OpenStack deployment architecture as a part of my OpenStack Folsom install guidehttps://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Folsom-Install-guide/blob/master/OpenStack_Folsom_Install_Guide_WebVersion.rstand i would like to ask a favorite. Could you be kind and please take a look at these Pics below and report back if there is a missing or wrong thing. Thank you. ==Quantum on VLAN + 3 NICs on controller node http://i.imgur.com/Ueh5Z.jpg === ==Quantum on VLAN + 2 NICs on controller node http://i.imgur.com/RK6X7.jpg === ==Quantum on GRE-tunneling + 3 NICs on controller node=== http://i.imgur.com/1jCFC.jpg === To make of OpenStack, the IT project of the century Best regards ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Regards, VeeraReddy.B 9959236555. comput_node-nova.conf Description: Binary data compute_node-ovs_quantum_plugin.ini Description: Binary data controller-nova.conf Description: Binary data network_node-ovs_quantum_plugin.ini Description: Binary data ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] OpenStack (+ Quantum Deployment) Scenarios
Hi Skible, I followed the install guide https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Folsom-Install-guide/blob/master/OpenStack_Folsom_Install_Guide_WebVersion.rst I am able to bring up guest, but unable to get ip to guest vm from network node. Also attached respective configuraion files . Please help in finding the issue. My setup : Controller : (10.232.91.33) nova-api nova-cert nova-consoleauth nova-scheduler quantum-server Network Node:(10.232.90.222) quantum-plugin-openvswitch-agent quantum-dhcp-agent quantum-l3-agent Compute Node: (10.232.90.62) quantum-plugin-openvswitch-agent nova-compute controller-nova.conf attached compute_node-nova.conf attached compute-ovs_quantum_plugin.ini attached network_node_ovs_quantum_plugin.ini attached Thanks in advance Regards, Veera. On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Skible OpenStack skible.openst...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Stackers ! I am currently trying to create pictures of my OpenStack deployment architecture as a part of my OpenStack Folsom install guidehttps://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Folsom-Install-guide/blob/master/OpenStack_Folsom_Install_Guide_WebVersion.rstand i would like to ask a favorite. Could you be kind and please take a look at these Pics below and report back if there is a missing or wrong thing. Thank you. ==Quantum on VLAN + 3 NICs on controller node http://i.imgur.com/Ueh5Z.jpg === ==Quantum on VLAN + 2 NICs on controller node http://i.imgur.com/RK6X7.jpg === ==Quantum on GRE-tunneling + 3 NICs on controller node=== http://i.imgur.com/1jCFC.jpg === To make of OpenStack, the IT project of the century Best regards ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Regards, VeeraReddy.B 9959236555. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] OpenStack (+ Quantum Deployment) Scenarios
First. Ping to your metadata_ip in network router namespace.
2012년 11월 9일 금요일에 Veera Reddy님이 작성:
Hi Skible,
I followed the install guide
https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Folsom-Install-guide/blob/master/OpenStack_Folsom_Install_Guide_WebVersion.rst
I am able to bring up guest, but unable to get ip to guest vm from network
node.
Also attached respective configuraion files .
Please help in finding the issue.
My setup :
Controller : (10.232.91.33)
nova-api
nova-cert
nova-consoleauth
nova-scheduler
quantum-server
Network Node:(10.232.90.222)
quantum-plugin-openvswitch-agent
quantum-dhcp-agent
quantum-l3-agent
Compute Node: (10.232.90.62)
quantum-plugin-openvswitch-agent
nova-compute
controller-nova.conf attached
compute_node-nova.conf attached
compute-ovs_quantum_plugin.ini attached
network_node_ovs_quantum_plugin.ini attached
Thanks in advance
Regards,
Veera.
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Skible OpenStack
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Hello Stackers !
I am currently trying to create pictures of my OpenStack deployment
architecture as a part of my OpenStack Folsom install
guidehttps://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Folsom-Install-guide/blob/master/OpenStack_Folsom_Install_Guide_WebVersion.rstand
i would like to ask a favorite.
Could you be kind and please take a look at these Pics below and report
back if there is a missing or wrong thing.
Thank you.
==Quantum on VLAN + 3 NICs on controller node
http://i.imgur.com/Ueh5Z.jpg
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==Quantum on VLAN + 2 NICs on controller node
http://i.imgur.com/RK6X7.jpg
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==Quantum on GRE-tunneling + 3 NICs on controller node===
http://i.imgur.com/1jCFC.jpg
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Re: [Openstack] OpenStack (+ Quantum Deployment) Scenarios
Hi, In my setup metadata_ip is controller ip. I am able to ping to controller from network node. Regards, Veera. On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Choe, Cheng-Dae white...@gmail.com wrote: First. Ping to your metadata_ip in network router namespace. 2012년 11월 9일 금요일에 Veera Reddy님이 작성: Hi Skible, I followed the install guide https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Folsom-Install-guide/blob/master/OpenStack_Folsom_Install_Guide_WebVersion.rst I am able to bring up guest, but unable to get ip to guest vm from network node. Also attached respective configuraion files . Please help in finding the issue. My setup : Controller : (10.232.91.33) nova-api nova-cert nova-consoleauth nova-scheduler quantum-server Network Node:(10.232.90.222) quantum-plugin-openvswitch-agent quantum-dhcp-agent quantum-l3-agent Compute Node: (10.232.90.62) quantum-plugin-openvswitch-agent nova-compute controller-nova.conf attached compute_node-nova.conf attached compute-ovs_quantum_plugin.ini attached network_node_ovs_quantum_plugin.ini attached Thanks in advance Regards, Veera. On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Skible OpenStack skible.openst...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Stackers ! I am currently trying to create pictures of my OpenStack deployment architecture as a part of my OpenStack Folsom install guidehttps://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Folsom-Install-guide/blob/master/OpenStack_Folsom_Install_Guide_WebVersion.rstand i would like to ask a favorite. Could you be kind and please take a look at these Pics below and report back if there is a missing or wrong thing. Thank you. ==Quantum on VLAN + 3 NICs on controller node http://i.imgur.com/Ueh5Z.jpg === ==Quantum on VLAN + 2 NICs on controller node http://i.imgur.com/RK6X7.jpg === ==Quantum on GRE-tunneling + 3 NICs on controller node=== http://i.imgur.com/1jCFC.jpg === To make of OpenStack, the IT project of the century Best regards ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Regards, VeeraReddy.B 9959236555. -- Choe, Cheng-Dae Blog: http://www.woosum.net -- Regards, VeeraReddy.B 9959236555. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] OpenStack (+ Quantum Deployment) Scenarios
Hi Skible, Can you please send me below configuration files of three setups you have mentioned. - ovs_quantum_plugin.ini (For controller and node) - nova.conf (For controller and node) Thanks in advance Regards, Veera. On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Skible OpenStack skible.openst...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Stackers ! I am currently trying to create pictures of my OpenStack deployment architecture as a part of my OpenStack Folsom install guidehttps://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Folsom-Install-guide/blob/master/OpenStack_Folsom_Install_Guide_WebVersion.rstand i would like to ask a favorite. Could you be kind and please take a look at these Pics below and report back if there is a missing or wrong thing. Thank you. ==Quantum on VLAN + 3 NICs on controller node http://i.imgur.com/Ueh5Z.jpg === ==Quantum on VLAN + 2 NICs on controller node http://i.imgur.com/RK6X7.jpg === ==Quantum on GRE-tunneling + 3 NICs on controller node=== http://i.imgur.com/1jCFC.jpg === To make of OpenStack, the IT project of the century Best regards ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Regards, VeeraReddy.B 9959236555. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] OpenStack (+ Quantum Deployment) Scenarios
OpenStack Folsom install guide https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Folsom-Install-guide/blob/master/OpenStack_Folsom_Install_Guide_WebVersion.rst You will find what you want and even more ;) Le 08/11/2012 14:30, Veera Reddy a écrit : Hi Skible, Can you please send me below configuration files of three setups you have mentioned. * ovs_quantum_plugin.ini (For controller and node) * nova.conf (For controller and node) Thanks in advance Regards, Veera. On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Skible OpenStack skible.openst...@gmail.com mailto:skible.openst...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Stackers ! I am currently trying to create pictures of my OpenStack deployment architecture as a part of my OpenStack Folsom install guide https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Folsom-Install-guide/blob/master/OpenStack_Folsom_Install_Guide_WebVersion.rst and i would like to ask a favorite. Could you be kind and please take a look at these Pics below and report back if there is a missing or wrong thing. Thank you. ==Quantum on VLAN + 3 NICs on controller node http://i.imgur.com/Ueh5Z.jpg === ==Quantum on VLAN + 2 NICs on controller node http://i.imgur.com/RK6X7.jpg === ==Quantum on GRE-tunneling + 3 NICs on controller node=== http://i.imgur.com/1jCFC.jpg === To make of OpenStack, the IT project of the century Best regards ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack https://launchpad.net/%7Eopenstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net mailto:openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack https://launchpad.net/%7Eopenstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Regards, VeeraReddy.B 9959236555. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] OpenStack (+ Quantum Deployment) Scenarios
Hi Skible, It will be great that if you could also cover Nova network, iptables, name space, and linux bridge (bridges that are handled by brctl CLIs). Thanks. Dennis Qin From: openstack-bounces+xiaohong.qin=emc@lists.launchpad.net [mailto:openstack-bounces+xiaohong.qin=emc@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of Skible OpenStack Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 1:28 AM To: openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: [Openstack] OpenStack (+ Quantum Deployment) Scenarios Hello Stackers ! I am currently trying to create pictures of my OpenStack deployment architecture as a part of my OpenStack Folsom install guidehttps://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Folsom-Install-guide/blob/master/OpenStack_Folsom_Install_Guide_WebVersion.rst and i would like to ask a favorite. Could you be kind and please take a look at these Pics below and report back if there is a missing or wrong thing. Thank you. ==Quantum on VLAN + 3 NICs on controller node http://i.imgur.com/Ueh5Z.jpg === ==Quantum on VLAN + 2 NICs on controller node http://i.imgur.com/RK6X7.jpg === ==Quantum on GRE-tunneling + 3 NICs on controller node=== http://i.imgur.com/1jCFC.jpg === To make of OpenStack, the IT project of the century Best regards ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] OpenStack (+ Quantum Deployment) Scenarios
Hi. 2012. 11. 9., 오전 1:49, Qin, Xiaohong xiaohong@emc.com 작성: Hi Skible, It will be great that if you could also cover Nova network, iptables, name space, and linux bridge (bridges that are handled by brctl CLIs). - Nova-network will be replaced to quantum. I think it is not necessary. - iptables and linux bridge are automatically managed by agent(only needed is create br-ex bridge). to keep guide simple i think it not necessary. ^^; Thanks. Dennis Qin From: openstack-bounces+xiaohong.qin=emc@lists.launchpad.net [mailto:openstack-bounces+xiaohong.qin=emc@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of Skible OpenStack Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 1:28 AM To: openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: [Openstack] OpenStack (+ Quantum Deployment) Scenarios Hello Stackers ! I am currently trying to create pictures of my OpenStack deployment architecture as a part of my OpenStack Folsom install guide and i would like to ask a favorite. Could you be kind and please take a look at these Pics below and report back if there is a missing or wrong thing. Thank you. ==Quantum on VLAN + 3 NICs on controller node http://i.imgur.com/Ueh5Z.jpg === ==Quantum on VLAN + 2 NICs on controller node http://i.imgur.com/RK6X7.jpg === ==Quantum on GRE-tunneling + 3 NICs on controller node=== http://i.imgur.com/1jCFC.jpg === To make of OpenStack, the IT project of the century Best regards ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] OpenStack (+ Quantum Deployment) Scenarios
Hi Skible -- I believe I am using your guide to try to install Folsom. I would be very happy to assist and feedback information to you to have a working installation guide. I have written books and guides before myself. I am currently trying to put Folsom into production for an SMB company that will be running a controller and 1 to 4 compute servers with about 5 to 20 VM's. I currently am having major issues with nova and horizon not working at all, but I am sure I will find the answers and/or get help. But I to believe that OpenStack can be huge and the VM platform of choice if the documentation matches the functionality ... etc etc. If you wish help on use, form, and/or feedback on spelling, grammar, checking steps etc... I would be happy to help. Even write-ups after I get this project completed. Regards, Robert Garron - convert from VMware On 11/8/12 11:49 AM, Qin, Xiaohong wrote: Hi Skible, It will be great that if you could also cover Nova network, iptables, name space, and linux bridge (bridges that are handled by brctl CLIs). Thanks. Dennis Qin *From:*openstack-bounces+xiaohong.qin=emc@lists.launchpad.net [mailto:openstack-bounces+xiaohong.qin=emc@lists.launchpad.net] *On Behalf Of *Skible OpenStack *Sent:* Thursday, November 08, 2012 1:28 AM *To:* openstack@lists.launchpad.net *Subject:* [Openstack] OpenStack (+ Quantum Deployment) Scenarios Hello Stackers ! I am currently trying to create pictures of my OpenStack deployment architecture as a part of my OpenStack Folsom install guide https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Folsom-Install-guide/blob/master/OpenStack_Folsom_Install_Guide_WebVersion.rst and i would like to ask a favorite. Could you be kind and please take a look at these Pics below and report back if there is a missing or wrong thing. Thank you. ==Quantum on VLAN + 3 NICs on controller node http://i.imgur.com/Ueh5Z.jpg === ==Quantum on VLAN + 2 NICs on controller node http://i.imgur.com/RK6X7.jpg === ==Quantum on GRE-tunneling + 3 NICs on controller node=== http://i.imgur.com/1jCFC.jpg === To make of OpenStack, the IT project of the century Best regards ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] OpenStack (+ Quantum Deployment) Scenarios
Hi Openers, One doubt i have is like, as we see in the demo setup in the Quantum Admin guide available in openstack.org, we have Network Node as a seperate physical node connected to Controller Node and Compute Node. But i see that the openstack community who is actively using Folsom is not discussing more on this kind of setup. Not sure if iam missing any key information on this like that the Network Node setup may not be widely used in current deployment scenarios or it is too early to use Network Node as a seperate physical host for openstack. Open comments on this will be more helpful for openstack community to understand better on the features of folsom. regards, balaji On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Skible OpenStack skible.openst...@gmail.com wrote: OpenStack Folsom install guidehttps://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Folsom-Install-guide/blob/master/OpenStack_Folsom_Install_Guide_WebVersion.rst You will find what you want and even more ;) Le 08/11/2012 14:30, Veera Reddy a écrit : Hi Skible, Can you please send me below configuration files of three setups you have mentioned. - ovs_quantum_plugin.ini (For controller and node) - nova.conf (For controller and node) Thanks in advance Regards, Veera. On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Skible OpenStack skible.openst...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Stackers ! I am currently trying to create pictures of my OpenStack deployment architecture as a part of my OpenStack Folsom install guidehttps://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Folsom-Install-guide/blob/master/OpenStack_Folsom_Install_Guide_WebVersion.rstand i would like to ask a favorite. Could you be kind and please take a look at these Pics below and report back if there is a missing or wrong thing. Thank you. ==Quantum on VLAN + 3 NICs on controller node http://i.imgur.com/Ueh5Z.jpg === ==Quantum on VLAN + 2 NICs on controller node http://i.imgur.com/RK6X7.jpg === ==Quantum on GRE-tunneling + 3 NICs on controller node=== http://i.imgur.com/1jCFC.jpg === To make of OpenStack, the IT project of the century Best regards ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Regards, VeeraReddy.B 9959236555. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] OpenStack (+ Quantum Deployment) Scenarios
Can someone please enlighten us about the goods of having a separated network node ? I honestly work in production envirnoments (over 30 nodes) and i really give computing resources more credit than networking ones ! Am i doing it the wrong way here ? Le 08/11/2012 18:49, balaji patnala a écrit : Hi Openers, One doubt i have is like, as we see in the demo setup in the Quantum Admin guide available in openstack.org http://openstack.org, we have Network Node as a seperate physical node connected to Controller Node and Compute Node. But i see that the openstack community who is actively using Folsom is not discussing more on this kind of setup. Not sure if iam missing any key information on this like that the Network Node setup may not be widely used in current deployment scenarios or it is too early to use Network Node as a seperate physical host for openstack. Open comments on this will be more helpful for openstack community to understand better on the features of folsom. regards, balaji On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Skible OpenStack skible.openst...@gmail.com mailto:skible.openst...@gmail.com wrote: OpenStack Folsom install guide https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Folsom-Install-guide/blob/master/OpenStack_Folsom_Install_Guide_WebVersion.rst You will find what you want and even more ;) Le 08/11/2012 14:30, Veera Reddy a écrit : Hi Skible, Can you please send me below configuration files of three setups you have mentioned. * ovs_quantum_plugin.ini (For controller and node) * nova.conf (For controller and node) Thanks in advance Regards, Veera. On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Skible OpenStack skible.openst...@gmail.com mailto:skible.openst...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Stackers ! I am currently trying to create pictures of my OpenStack deployment architecture as a part of my OpenStack Folsom install guide https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Folsom-Install-guide/blob/master/OpenStack_Folsom_Install_Guide_WebVersion.rst and i would like to ask a favorite. Could you be kind and please take a look at these Pics below and report back if there is a missing or wrong thing. Thank you. ==Quantum on VLAN + 3 NICs on controller node http://i.imgur.com/Ueh5Z.jpg === ==Quantum on VLAN + 2 NICs on controller node http://i.imgur.com/RK6X7.jpg === ==Quantum on GRE-tunneling + 3 NICs on controller node=== http://i.imgur.com/1jCFC.jpg === To make of OpenStack, the IT project of the century Best regards ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack https://launchpad.net/%7Eopenstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net mailto:openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack https://launchpad.net/%7Eopenstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Regards, VeeraReddy.B 9959236555. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack https://launchpad.net/%7Eopenstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net mailto:openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack https://launchpad.net/%7Eopenstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] OpenStack (+ Quantum Deployment) Scenarios
Le 08/11/2012 18:26, Robert Garron a écrit : Robert Garron Welcome aboard Dear Robert ! I can't wait to hear your suggestions and feedbacks. my personal mail is bilel.mse...@telecom-sudparis.eu, i am pretty sure we will collaborate together to make this guide even better ;) ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] OpenStack (+ Quantum Deployment) Scenarios
Hi, The Quantum Admin Guide indicates that you can choose to combine all services onto a single node, or have separate nodes: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-network/admin/content/services.html I will update the text to indicate that that the main reason to use a dedicated network gateway node is if you plan on having VMs send substantial amounts of traffic through that node, and thus would not want that CPU usage to conflict with other openstack services running on your controller node. dan On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Skible OpenStack skible.openst...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone please enlighten us about the goods of having a separated network node ? I honestly work in production envirnoments (over 30 nodes) and i really give computing resources more credit than networking ones ! Am i doing it the wrong way here ? Le 08/11/2012 18:49, balaji patnala a écrit : Hi Openers, One doubt i have is like, as we see in the demo setup in the Quantum Admin guide available in openstack.org, we have Network Node as a seperate physical node connected to Controller Node and Compute Node. But i see that the openstack community who is actively using Folsom is not discussing more on this kind of setup. Not sure if iam missing any key information on this like that the Network Node setup may not be widely used in current deployment scenarios or it is too early to use Network Node as a seperate physical host for openstack. Open comments on this will be more helpful for openstack community to understand better on the features of folsom. regards, balaji On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Skible OpenStack skible.openst...@gmail.com wrote: OpenStack Folsom install guidehttps://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Folsom-Install-guide/blob/master/OpenStack_Folsom_Install_Guide_WebVersion.rst You will find what you want and even more ;) Le 08/11/2012 14:30, Veera Reddy a écrit : Hi Skible, Can you please send me below configuration files of three setups you have mentioned. - ovs_quantum_plugin.ini (For controller and node) - nova.conf (For controller and node) Thanks in advance Regards, Veera. On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Skible OpenStack skible.openst...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Stackers ! I am currently trying to create pictures of my OpenStack deployment architecture as a part of my OpenStack Folsom install guidehttps://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Folsom-Install-guide/blob/master/OpenStack_Folsom_Install_Guide_WebVersion.rstand i would like to ask a favorite. Could you be kind and please take a look at these Pics below and report back if there is a missing or wrong thing. Thank you. ==Quantum on VLAN + 3 NICs on controller node http://i.imgur.com/Ueh5Z.jpg === ==Quantum on VLAN + 2 NICs on controller node http://i.imgur.com/RK6X7.jpg === ==Quantum on GRE-tunneling + 3 NICs on controller node=== http://i.imgur.com/1jCFC.jpg === To make of OpenStack, the IT project of the century Best regards ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Regards, VeeraReddy.B 9959236555. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- ~~~ Dan Wendlandt Nicira, Inc: www.nicira.com twitter: danwendlandt ~~~ ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] OpenStack (+ Quantum Deployment) Scenarios
Thank you Dan for shedding light on this matter. However, there is something concerns me and a lot of other people trying to deploy OpenStack is that most Servers has 2 NICs which creates a problem because your Demo is a great one but the necessary hardware is just not always met ! I have been struggling to find a solution out of it, can you suggest some please ? Le 08/11/2012 21:38, Dan Wendlandt a écrit : Hi, The Quantum Admin Guide indicates that you can choose to combine all services onto a single node, or have separate nodes: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-network/admin/content/services.html I will update the text to indicate that that the main reason to use a dedicated network gateway node is if you plan on having VMs send substantial amounts of traffic through that node, and thus would not want that CPU usage to conflict with other openstack services running on your controller node. dan On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Skible OpenStack skible.openst...@gmail.com mailto:skible.openst...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone please enlighten us about the goods of having a separated network node ? I honestly work in production envirnoments (over 30 nodes) and i really give computing resources more credit than networking ones ! Am i doing it the wrong way here ? Le 08/11/2012 18:49, balaji patnala a écrit : Hi Openers, One doubt i have is like, as we see in the demo setup in the Quantum Admin guide available in openstack.org http://openstack.org, we have Network Node as a seperate physical node connected to Controller Node and Compute Node. But i see that the openstack community who is actively using Folsom is not discussing more on this kind of setup. Not sure if iam missing any key information on this like that the Network Node setup may not be widely used in current deployment scenarios or it is too early to use Network Node as a seperate physical host for openstack. Open comments on this will be more helpful for openstack community to understand better on the features of folsom. regards, balaji On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Skible OpenStack skible.openst...@gmail.com mailto:skible.openst...@gmail.com wrote: OpenStack Folsom install guide https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Folsom-Install-guide/blob/master/OpenStack_Folsom_Install_Guide_WebVersion.rst You will find what you want and even more ;) Le 08/11/2012 14:30, Veera Reddy a écrit : Hi Skible, Can you please send me below configuration files of three setups you have mentioned. * ovs_quantum_plugin.ini (For controller and node) * nova.conf (For controller and node) Thanks in advance Regards, Veera. On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Skible OpenStack skible.openst...@gmail.com mailto:skible.openst...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Stackers ! I am currently trying to create pictures of my OpenStack deployment architecture as a part of my OpenStack Folsom install guide https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Folsom-Install-guide/blob/master/OpenStack_Folsom_Install_Guide_WebVersion.rst and i would like to ask a favorite. Could you be kind and please take a look at these Pics below and report back if there is a missing or wrong thing. Thank you. ==Quantum on VLAN + 3 NICs on controller node http://i.imgur.com/Ueh5Z.jpg === ==Quantum on VLAN + 2 NICs on controller node http://i.imgur.com/RK6X7.jpg === ==Quantum on GRE-tunneling + 3 NICs on controller node=== http://i.imgur.com/1jCFC.jpg === To make of OpenStack, the IT project of the century Best regards ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack https://launchpad.net/%7Eopenstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net mailto:openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack https://launchpad.net/%7Eopenstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Regards, VeeraReddy.B 9959236555. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack https://launchpad.net/%7Eopenstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net mailto:openstack@lists.launchpad.net
Re: [Openstack] OpenStack (+ Quantum Deployment) Scenarios
Dan, I see your point about throughput and I/O, but if you have a multi-core server, greater than say 4 cores, and thus likely you would have multiple NICs, 2 or More, your assumptions fall apart about the cpu usage and I/o. For example, using XEN or Qemu or in the older systems where this concept originated - VMS OS (from Digital Equipment Corp. - see Galaxy product and similar) you can assign affinity to CPUs or even dedicate CPU's to tasks or VM's. In addition, using Cisco networking or similar you can dedicated I/O paths, and within a system, you can even dedicated a NIC Card or Port to a path. So the deployment of OpenStack on one physical server or several should not even be a consideration except to the installer and their budget; and whether or not High Availability is a concern. What I think is important is the consistency of the network design, I/O design for multiple VM's and the related load and intended usage of the individual cores of a server. But the most important consistency is having installation guides that work over and over for installations on different hardware and OS's. Myself, if I can get past my current nova and horizon issues, I will then be in a position to contribute in this and many other areas Regards, Robert On 11/8/12 4:06 PM, Skible OpenStack wrote: Thank you Dan for shedding light on this matter. However, there is something concerns me and a lot of other people trying to deploy OpenStack is that most Servers has 2 NICs which creates a problem because your Demo is a great one but the necessary hardware is just not always met ! I have been struggling to find a solution out of it, can you suggest some please ? Le 08/11/2012 21:38, Dan Wendlandt a écrit : Hi, The Quantum Admin Guide indicates that you can choose to combine all services onto a single node, or have separate nodes: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-network/admin/content/services.html I will update the text to indicate that that the main reason to use a dedicated network gateway node is if you plan on having VMs send substantial amounts of traffic through that node, and thus would not want that CPU usage to conflict with other openstack services running on your controller node. dan On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Skible OpenStack skible.openst...@gmail.com mailto:skible.openst...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone please enlighten us about the goods of having a separated network node ? I honestly work in production envirnoments (over 30 nodes) and i really give computing resources more credit than networking ones ! Am i doing it the wrong way here ? Le 08/11/2012 18:49, balaji patnala a écrit : Hi Openers, One doubt i have is like, as we see in the demo setup in the Quantum Admin guide available in openstack.org http://openstack.org, we have Network Node as a seperate physical node connected to Controller Node and Compute Node. But i see that the openstack community who is actively using Folsom is not discussing more on this kind of setup. Not sure if iam missing any key information on this like that the Network Node setup may not be widely used in current deployment scenarios or it is too early to use Network Node as a seperate physical host for openstack. Open comments on this will be more helpful for openstack community to understand better on the features of folsom. regards, balaji On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Skible OpenStack skible.openst...@gmail.com mailto:skible.openst...@gmail.com wrote: OpenStack Folsom install guide https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Folsom-Install-guide/blob/master/OpenStack_Folsom_Install_Guide_WebVersion.rst You will find what you want and even more ;) Le 08/11/2012 14:30, Veera Reddy a écrit : Hi Skible, Can you please send me below configuration files of three setups you have mentioned. * ovs_quantum_plugin.ini (For controller and node) * nova.conf (For controller and node) Thanks in advance Regards, Veera. On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Skible OpenStack skible.openst...@gmail.com mailto:skible.openst...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Stackers ! I am currently trying to create pictures of my OpenStack deployment architecture as a part of my OpenStack Folsom install guide https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Folsom-Install-guide/blob/master/OpenStack_Folsom_Install_Guide_WebVersion.rst and i would like to ask a favorite. Could you be kind and please take a look at these Pics below and report back if there is a missing or wrong thing. Thank you. ==Quantum on VLAN + 3 NICs on controller node
Re: [Openstack] OpenStack (+ Quantum Deployment) Scenarios
Le 09/11/2012 03:56, Robert Garron a écrit : Myself, if I can get past my current nova and horizon issues, What are your nova and horizon issues, i will be glad to help you out ! ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
