Re: [Openstack] Suggestion for lab environment

2014-10-20 Thread Md. Maruful Hassan
@Adam

Thanks.

I was actually running Virtualbox on top of Linux host. Sorry I should have
mentioned that.
When I started reading various docs relating to Openstack found lot of
people building lab
env on it. Also, it was the quickest to start with as I already had few VMs
running on it. But
now I understand (thanks to you for the pointers relating to various
components of VBox) the
setup of VBos wasn't probably the best one.

ESXi was/is definitely the better choice, I understand that. But that means
I'll have blow my
,unfortunately, only machine and re-install the ESXi on it. Just didn't
want to do that at the
start. But I like Don's idea to use KVM instead.

I'm just trying to learn openstack and really just looking for a 'useable'
vm instances running
on it (even if it runs under Vbox/KVM/esxi).

@Don,

Thanks.

As mentioned above, I like the idea of running openstack on KVM. I'll head
in that way. Will see
how it goes. One question, do I still have to use libvirt_type=qemu on
compute node running
under KVM?

regards
Maruf


On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 6:26 AM, Don Waterloo don.water...@gmail.com
wrote:



 On 18 October 2014 09:25, Md. Maruful Hassan mrf@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi

 Apologies if this has been answered previously.

 I have a working Openstack setup on my VM lab environment running under
 Virtualbox. The instances launched run very very slowly (specially CentOS,
 RHEL, Fedora images). I choose KVM as the hypervisor for Openstack compute
 node so
 that means running KVM under virtualbox. However, I needed to put
 libvirt_type=qemu (instead of KVM) in nova.conf as virtualbox doesn't pass
 VT-X to guest OSs. Is the slowness caused by this? Should I choose
 something else like Vmware instead of Virtualbox? Any suggestion?

 Btw, virtualbox vdi files reside on SSD if this helps.

 thanks
 --
 Maruf


 kvm supports running nested under kvm, but not under VirtualBox.
 So i think you want to run the 'host' on kvm. You are on the right track
 with the libvirt_type= comment.
 Your issue is that qemu is emulating the instructions.

 I normally run OpenStack in a kvm virtual machine on my Linux system and
 get very good
 performance. I don't believe it is possible to get good performance under
 VirtuallBox tho (since
 it doesn't pass the vt-x).


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Re: [Openstack] Suggestion for lab environment

2014-10-20 Thread Christian Berendt
On 10/20/2014 02:54 PM, Md. Maruful Hassan wrote:
 I was actually running Virtualbox on top of Linux host. Sorry I should
 have mentioned that. 
 When I started reading various docs relating to Openstack found lot of
 people building lab
 env on it. Also, it was the quickest to start with as I already had few
 VMs running on it. But
 now I understand (thanks to you for the pointers relating to various
 components of VBox) the
 setup of VBos wasn't probably the best one. 

VirtualBox is not a bad choice when using lightweight guests on it, for
example CirrOS (http://download.cirros-cloud.net/). But of course you do
not want to use Windows or a full blown Linux on top of QEMU.

Maybe you could try KVM with Nested Virtualization.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/KVM#Nested_virtualization

Christian.

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Re: [Openstack] Suggestion for lab environment

2014-10-18 Thread Adam Lawson
Anytime you put install a portable dev environment running embedded guests
on top of what amounts to commercial bloatware such as Windows, you'll have
performance issues. Could also be as simple as how you built your
VirtualBox (static disk = fast, dynamic disk = slow, less memory = more
paging to disk = disk type matters). Technically speaking though assuming
your budget is $0, VMware hypervisors are actually free (
http://www.vmware.com/products/vsphere-hypervisor) and useful when
comparing performance.

You need a dedicated machine for it but exploring options couldn't hurt.

Mahalo,
Adam


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On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 6:25 AM, Md. Maruful Hassan mrf@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi

 Apologies if this has been answered previously.

 I have a working Openstack setup on my VM lab environment running under
 Virtualbox. The instances launched run very very slowly (specially CentOS,
 RHEL, Fedora images). I choose KVM as the hypervisor for Openstack compute
 node so
 that means running KVM under virtualbox. However, I needed to put
 libvirt_type=qemu (instead of KVM) in nova.conf as virtualbox doesn't pass
 VT-X to guest OSs. Is the slowness caused by this? Should I choose
 something else like Vmware instead of Virtualbox? Any suggestion?

 Btw, virtualbox vdi files reside on SSD if this helps.

 thanks
 --
 Maruf

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