Re: [Openstack] Trove is skipped in Newton
The way I have debugged this issue is enabling port 22 (+ssh keys) so you can log into the guest instance and see why it has failed to get to a running state. Once there it is usually obvious what has gone wrong (but may require several retries to get working)! Best wishes Mark On 09/03/17 20:31, Wang Sen wrote: I have been trying to deploy trove since last December, but my database instances never escape from BUILD or Error state :( ___ Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack Post to : openstack@lists.openstack.org Unsubscribe : http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack
Re: [Openstack] Trove is skipped in Newton
Hi Amrith, Thanks for your reply. I appreciate you very much if I can get help from my colleagues. I have tried many ways to deploy trove, but all attempts failed to create database instances. 1. trove-integration installation & devstack installation Just following the trove installation docs, I deployed trove on ubuntu 14.04 with redstack. Also, I have tried to deploy trove with devstack following the instructions of the book <>. Both of the two ways failed with 'cannot allocate network' error when creating database instance. 2. openstack Mitaka & Newton installation https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/1658008 3. Tesora EE 1.9 The instance will go to error state because of request timeout error. On Thu, Mar 09, 2017 at 06:47:18AM -0500, Amrith Kumar wrote: > Wang Sen, in what environment is this (x86 or non-x86)? I know of at least > three teams within IBM who have successfully deployed Trove on both x86 and > non-x86 systems and a number of different releases. > > If you are interested, I'm happy to connect you with several of your fellow > IBM'ers who may be able to help you with this, or they may see this email > and reach out to you directly. > > -amrith > > -Original Message- > From: Wang Sen [mailto:wang...@linux.vnet.ibm.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 9, 2017 2:32 AM > To: Mark Kirkwood <mark.kirkw...@catalyst.net.nz> > Cc: openstack@lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [Openstack] Trove is skipped in Newton > > I have been trying to deploy trove since last December, but my database > instances never escape from BUILD or Error state :( > > On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 09:15:25PM +1300, Mark Kirkwood wrote: > > I haven't tried to get Trove working with latest versions - but > > experience with previous (Kilo, Liberty, Mitaka) ones suggests that > > the creation of guest images requires painstaking determination and > > error checking - as the supplied docs are - somewhat - lacking...(read > > between the lines here). > > > > Best wishes > > > > > > Mark > > > > On 07/03/17 20:13, Evgeniy Ivanov wrote: > > >Hello everybody, > > > > > >I found some interesting info about Trove in Newton. I'm able to > > >deploy successfully some trove components (api, conductor and > > >taskmanager) on my test Newton environment. As for the Trove > > >guestagent - I'm totally not able to run it neither on Ubuntu Trusty > > >nor Ubuntu Xenial. > > > > > >I found there are no Newton packages for Trusty in The Ubuntu Cloud > > >Archive. The last supported release is Mitaka (I checked the > > >RELEASE_MAP). That looks there is no support for Newton in Trusty, > > >therefore I can not use Trove in Newton. > > > > > >As for the Xenial release, here is a bug where Amrith Kumar (CTO > > >Tesora) says there is no support for Newton also - > > >https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/1652312 (Should be in Ocata > > >only) > > > > > >For me, it looks like Tesora just skipped Newton, did they? > > > > > >I'm asking here because there is no way to get any answers from > > >Tesora and Co. > > > > > >Thanks for any help! > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Mailing list: > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack > > Post to : openstack@lists.openstack.org > > Unsubscribe : > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack > > > > > ___ > Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack > Post to : openstack@lists.openstack.org > Unsubscribe : http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack > ___ Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack Post to : openstack@lists.openstack.org Unsubscribe : http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack
Re: [Openstack] Trove is skipped in Newton
Wang Sen, in what environment is this (x86 or non-x86)? I know of at least three teams within IBM who have successfully deployed Trove on both x86 and non-x86 systems and a number of different releases. If you are interested, I'm happy to connect you with several of your fellow IBM'ers who may be able to help you with this, or they may see this email and reach out to you directly. -amrith -Original Message- From: Wang Sen [mailto:wang...@linux.vnet.ibm.com] Sent: Thursday, March 9, 2017 2:32 AM To: Mark Kirkwood <mark.kirkw...@catalyst.net.nz> Cc: openstack@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [Openstack] Trove is skipped in Newton I have been trying to deploy trove since last December, but my database instances never escape from BUILD or Error state :( On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 09:15:25PM +1300, Mark Kirkwood wrote: > I haven't tried to get Trove working with latest versions - but > experience with previous (Kilo, Liberty, Mitaka) ones suggests that > the creation of guest images requires painstaking determination and > error checking - as the supplied docs are - somewhat - lacking...(read > between the lines here). > > Best wishes > > > Mark > > On 07/03/17 20:13, Evgeniy Ivanov wrote: > >Hello everybody, > > > >I found some interesting info about Trove in Newton. I'm able to > >deploy successfully some trove components (api, conductor and > >taskmanager) on my test Newton environment. As for the Trove > >guestagent - I'm totally not able to run it neither on Ubuntu Trusty > >nor Ubuntu Xenial. > > > >I found there are no Newton packages for Trusty in The Ubuntu Cloud > >Archive. The last supported release is Mitaka (I checked the > >RELEASE_MAP). That looks there is no support for Newton in Trusty, > >therefore I can not use Trove in Newton. > > > >As for the Xenial release, here is a bug where Amrith Kumar (CTO > >Tesora) says there is no support for Newton also - > >https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/1652312 (Should be in Ocata > >only) > > > >For me, it looks like Tesora just skipped Newton, did they? > > > >I'm asking here because there is no way to get any answers from > >Tesora and Co. > > > >Thanks for any help! > > > > > ___ > Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack > Post to : openstack@lists.openstack.org > Unsubscribe : > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack > ___ Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack Post to : openstack@lists.openstack.org Unsubscribe : http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack ___ Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack Post to : openstack@lists.openstack.org Unsubscribe : http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack
Re: [Openstack] Trove is skipped in Newton
Wang Sen, in what environment is this (x86 or non-x86)? I know of at least three teams within IBM who have successfully deployed Trove on both x86 and non-x86 systems and a number of different releases. If you are interested, I'm happy to connect you with several of your fellow IBM'ers who may be able to help you with this, or they may see this email and reach out to you directly. -amrith -Original Message- From: Wang Sen [mailto:wang...@linux.vnet.ibm.com] Sent: Thursday, March 9, 2017 2:32 AM To: Mark Kirkwood <mark.kirkw...@catalyst.net.nz> Cc: openstack@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [Openstack] Trove is skipped in Newton I have been trying to deploy trove since last December, but my database instances never escape from BUILD or Error state :( On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 09:15:25PM +1300, Mark Kirkwood wrote: > I haven't tried to get Trove working with latest versions - but > experience with previous (Kilo, Liberty, Mitaka) ones suggests that > the creation of guest images requires painstaking determination and > error checking - as the supplied docs are - somewhat - lacking...(read > between the lines here). > > Best wishes > > > Mark > > On 07/03/17 20:13, Evgeniy Ivanov wrote: > >Hello everybody, > > > >I found some interesting info about Trove in Newton. I'm able to > >deploy successfully some trove components (api, conductor and > >taskmanager) on my test Newton environment. As for the Trove > >guestagent - I'm totally not able to run it neither on Ubuntu Trusty > >nor Ubuntu Xenial. > > > >I found there are no Newton packages for Trusty in The Ubuntu Cloud > >Archive. The last supported release is Mitaka (I checked the > >RELEASE_MAP). That looks there is no support for Newton in Trusty, > >therefore I can not use Trove in Newton. > > > >As for the Xenial release, here is a bug where Amrith Kumar (CTO > >Tesora) says there is no support for Newton also - > >https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/1652312 (Should be in Ocata > >only) > > > >For me, it looks like Tesora just skipped Newton, did they? > > > >I'm asking here because there is no way to get any answers from > >Tesora and Co. > > > >Thanks for any help! > > > > > ___ > Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack > Post to : openstack@lists.openstack.org > Unsubscribe : > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack > ___ Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack Post to : openstack@lists.openstack.org Unsubscribe : http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack ___ Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack Post to : openstack@lists.openstack.org Unsubscribe : http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack
Re: [Openstack] Trove is skipped in Newton
I have been trying to deploy trove since last December, but my database instances never escape from BUILD or Error state :( On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 09:15:25PM +1300, Mark Kirkwood wrote: > I haven't tried to get Trove working with latest versions - but > experience with previous (Kilo, Liberty, Mitaka) ones suggests that > the creation of guest images requires painstaking determination and > error checking - as the supplied docs are - somewhat - > lacking...(read between the lines here). > > Best wishes > > > Mark > > On 07/03/17 20:13, Evgeniy Ivanov wrote: > >Hello everybody, > > > >I found some interesting info about Trove in Newton. I'm able to > >deploy successfully some trove components (api, conductor and > >taskmanager) on my test Newton environment. As for the Trove > >guestagent - I'm totally not able to run it neither on Ubuntu > >Trusty nor Ubuntu Xenial. > > > >I found there are no Newton packages for Trusty in The Ubuntu > >Cloud Archive. The last supported release is Mitaka (I checked the > >RELEASE_MAP). That looks there is no support for Newton in Trusty, > >therefore I can not use Trove in Newton. > > > >As for the Xenial release, here is a bug where Amrith Kumar (CTO > >Tesora) says there is no support for Newton also - > >https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/1652312 (Should be in Ocata > >only) > > > >For me, it looks like Tesora just skipped Newton, did they? > > > >I'm asking here because there is no way to get any answers from > >Tesora and Co. > > > >Thanks for any help! > > > > > ___ > Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack > Post to : openstack@lists.openstack.org > Unsubscribe : http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack > ___ Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack Post to : openstack@lists.openstack.org Unsubscribe : http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack
Re: [Openstack] Trove is skipped in Newton
>> >> So, if you as a major contributor of Trove and you don't want to write >> documentations, why don't you opensource the book? (Openstack Trove) >> and make life easer for operators ? >> > > [Amrith Kumar] Apart from being factually incorrect, your comment is quite > funny. All of the documentation for Trove was contributed by members of the > Trove community, many from Tesora but also HP, Rackspace, EBay, IBM, RedHat, > SUSE, Cisco, Mirantis, and a lot of other independent contributors, may of > who are also from deployers of Trove. This includes the documentation now > available on how to build guest images. Making the book open source or free > on the internet won't make life easier. Like the suggestions and ideas I gave > you on IRC, they are just recommendations. The book is, for all intents and > purposes, free for anyone who asks nicely. > There's also installation documentation on docs.openstack.org: https://docs.openstack.org/project-install-guide/database/ocata/ This content is owned and maintained by the OpenStack Trove team (and lives in the Trove repo). The docs team publish it as part of the OpenStack Install Guide. Anyone can propose a patch against the guide if they find errors. Lana -- Lana Brindley Technical Writer Rackspace Cloud Builders Australia http://lanabrindley.com signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack Post to : openstack@lists.openstack.org Unsubscribe : http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack
Re: [Openstack] Trove is skipped in Newton
Hi, Looking at the trove bug you filed, I'd be tempted to work with Xenial but consider either: 1/ Hacking the guestagent to use /var/lib/mysql or 2/ Removing (or changing) the line in systemd pre start that checks for /var/lib/mysql/mysql I made a comment in the bug to the effect of 1/ but I'm actually thinking that 2/ might be better. After all that check is testing that a 'mysql' database exists...and you know that one does (systemd is just expecting it under /var/lib/mysql). regards Mark On 07/03/17 20:13, Evgeniy Ivanov wrote: Hello everybody, I found some interesting info about Trove in Newton. I'm able to deploy successfully some trove components (api, conductor and taskmanager) on my test Newton environment. As for the Trove guestagent - I'm totally not able to run it neither on Ubuntu Trusty nor Ubuntu Xenial. I found there are no Newton packages for Trusty in The Ubuntu Cloud Archive. The last supported release is Mitaka (I checked the RELEASE_MAP). That looks there is no support for Newton in Trusty, therefore I can not use Trove in Newton. As for the Xenial release, here is a bug where Amrith Kumar (CTO Tesora) says there is no support for Newton also - https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/1652312 (Should be in Ocata only) For me, it looks like Tesora just skipped Newton, did they? I'm asking here because there is no way to get any answers from Tesora and Co. Thanks for any help! ___ Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack Post to : openstack@lists.openstack.org Unsubscribe : http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack
Re: [Openstack] Trove is skipped in Newton
Actually I completely agree with you regarding doing it in devstack 1st. However, the next step will be doing one's own deployment via puppet or similar and creating guest images. Which gets us back to the original issues at the start of the thread. regards Mark On 08/03/17 03:33, Amrith Kumar wrote: Yes, the documentation cannot (unfortunately) cover each and every possible deployment scenario that one finds out there. In the case of Trove where guest images contain software like databases, the project cannot legally distribute guest images. Where we provide tools to build images then those tools will be with configurations that we can know and control; hence the project formerly known as trove-integration (dead and gone, may it rest in peace) which has now been integrated into the trove repository as the trovestack tool. But that tool can only generate images which we know will work in a system configured in a certain way. You can run the trovestack build-image command and make just the images or you can use the kick-start mechanism which will get you going in the full devstack environment. Whether an image built using the build-image command will work on your specific OpenStack, one cannot say for sure. That is just a fact that people like to ignore. I'm always criticized for telling people to first try and deploy trove using devstack and no one wants to listen to the simple reason for this. Trove has a number of moving parts and a specific aspect of complexity that isn't found in other projects; the guest agent on the guest image. And the fact that it is a consumer of a number of underlying OpenStack services that are each tweaked just a little bit by each deployer. The benefit of kicking off Trove in a simple VM with devstack and using the devstack tools to get things going is that you see how the whole system is supposed to work together and it is then much easier to go from there to building your own images and deploying them on an OpenStack system configured in your own specific way. And yes, every single OpenStack system that I've seen is configured in some slightly different way and many of these apparently inconsequential changes do in fact impact Trove. I'll offer the same suggestion again, get a simple system up and running with devstack and see how the piece parts fit together in a configuration that is supposed to work. That'll make it easier to understand how things are supposed to work in whatever configuration you want to put together. This was the same advice I was given when I started working on Trove, and believe me, it is good advice. And if the documentation is lacking, and you find something helpful (or unhelpful) in the documentation, maybe contributing it would be useful for others. -amrith -Original Message- From: Mark Kirkwood [mailto:mark.kirkw...@catalyst.net.nz] Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 12:15 AM To: openstack@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [Openstack] Trove is skipped in Newton I haven't tried to get Trove working with latest versions - but experience with previous (Kilo, Liberty, Mitaka) ones suggests that the creation of guest images requires painstaking determination and error checking - as the supplied docs are - somewhat - lacking...(read between the lines here). Best wishes Mark On 07/03/17 20:13, Evgeniy Ivanov wrote: Hello everybody, I found some interesting info about Trove in Newton. I'm able to deploy successfully some trove components (api, conductor and taskmanager) on my test Newton environment. As for the Trove guestagent - I'm totally not able to run it neither on Ubuntu Trusty nor Ubuntu Xenial. I found there are no Newton packages for Trusty in The Ubuntu Cloud Archive. The last supported release is Mitaka (I checked the RELEASE_MAP). That looks there is no support for Newton in Trusty, therefore I can not use Trove in Newton. As for the Xenial release, here is a bug where Amrith Kumar (CTO Tesora) says there is no support for Newton also - https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/1652312 (Should be in Ocata only) For me, it looks like Tesora just skipped Newton, did they? I'm asking here because there is no way to get any answers from Tesora and Co. Thanks for any help! ___ Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack Post to : openstack@lists.openstack.org Unsubscribe : http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack ___ Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack Post to : openstack@lists.openstack.org Unsubscribe : http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack ___ Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack Post to : openstack@lists.openstack.org Unsubscribe : http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack
Re: [Openstack] Trove is skipped in Newton
> -Original Message- > From: Evgeniy Ivanov [mailto:e601...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 3:34 AM > To: Amrith Kumar <amrith.ku...@gmail.com>; > openstack@lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [Openstack] Trove is skipped in Newton > > Amrith Kumar, > > Thanks for your reply. > > > [Amrith Kumar] I don't quite understand where Tesora got involved in this > > Tesora as a contributor did more then 60% for Trove, didn't they? [Amrith Kumar] 37% by lines of code, 26% by commits, but who's counting? > > So, if you as a major contributor of Trove and you don't want to write > documentations, why don't you opensource the book? (Openstack Trove) > and make life easer for operators ? > [Amrith Kumar] Apart from being factually incorrect, your comment is quite funny. All of the documentation for Trove was contributed by members of the Trove community, many from Tesora but also HP, Rackspace, EBay, IBM, RedHat, SUSE, Cisco, Mirantis, and a lot of other independent contributors, may of who are also from deployers of Trove. This includes the documentation now available on how to build guest images. Making the book open source or free on the internet won't make life easier. Like the suggestions and ideas I gave you on IRC, they are just recommendations. The book is, for all intents and purposes, free for anyone who asks nicely. > According to the information I found on the openstack repositories I can tell > exactly that it's absolutely impossible to build an image and get trove- > guestagent up and running in Newton for now. > > That's why I made the thread and asked for help. > And I'll provide you the exact same recommendations that I have already provided in IRC, on 3/1 I believe. That suggestion was this ... https://www.tesora.com/6-tips-for-getting-started-with-openstack-trove/ -amrith > > On 07/03/17 17:09, Amrith Kumar wrote: > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Evgeniy Ivanov [mailto:e601...@gmail.com] > >> Sent: Monday, March 6, 2017 11:13 PM > >> To: openstack@lists.openstack.org > >> Subject: [Openstack] Trove is skipped in Newton > >> > >> Hello everybody, > >> > >> I found some interesting info about Trove in Newton. I'm able to > >> deploy successfully some trove components (api, conductor and > >> taskmanager) on my test Newton environment. As for the Trove > >> guestagent - I'm totally not able to run it neither on Ubuntu Trusty nor > Ubuntu Xenial. > >> > >> I found there are no Newton packages for Trusty in The Ubuntu Cloud > >> Archive. The last supported release is Mitaka (I checked the > RELEASE_MAP). > >> That looks there is no support for Newton in Trusty, therefore I can > >> not > > use > >> Trove in Newton. > >> > > [Amrith Kumar] This appears to be more of a question for the Ubuntu > > distribution maintainers than for the Trove project. > > > >> As for the Xenial release, here is a bug where Amrith Kumar (CTO > >> Tesora) says there is no support for Newton also - > >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/1652312 (Should be in Ocata > >> only) > > > > [Amrith Kumar] This was specific to the MySQL support and as the > > comment in the bug says, "fwiw, xenial support for mysql does exist in > > master (soon Ocata)." > > > >> > >> For me, it looks like Tesora just skipped Newton, did they? > >> > > > > [Amrith Kumar] No, but you should distinguish between Tesora and > > Trove. FYI, my response is only as a contributor to Trove, I do not > > speak for Tesora. As with next comment, I don't see what Tesora has to > > do with this if you aren't using their software. > > > >> I'm asking here because there is no way to get any answers from > >> Tesora and Co. > > > > [Amrith Kumar] I don't quite understand where Tesora got involved in > > this but I'll assume that you are their customer and you know how to get > support. > > If not, then I don't see what you'd like them to do for you. If you > > are attempting to use packages from the Ubuntu Cloud Archive (as you > > say you are), it doesn't strike me that you are a Tesora customer. > > > >> > >> Thanks for any help! > >> > >> -- > >> Best Regards, > >> Evgeniy Ivanov > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Mailing list: > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack > >> Post to : openstack@lists.openstack.org > >> Unsubscribe : > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack > > > > -- > Best Regards, > Evgeniy Ivanov ___ Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack Post to : openstack@lists.openstack.org Unsubscribe : http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack
Re: [Openstack] Trove is skipped in Newton
Amrith Kumar, Thanks for your reply. > [Amrith Kumar] I don't quite understand where Tesora got involved in this Tesora as a contributor did more then 60% for Trove, didn't they? So, if you as a major contributor of Trove and you don't want to write documentations, why don't you opensource the book? (Openstack Trove) and make life easer for operators ? According to the information I found on the openstack repositories I can tell exactly that it's absolutely impossible to build an image and get trove-guestagent up and running in Newton for now. That's why I made the thread and asked for help. On 07/03/17 17:09, Amrith Kumar wrote: -Original Message- From: Evgeniy Ivanov [mailto:e601...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 6, 2017 11:13 PM To: openstack@lists.openstack.org Subject: [Openstack] Trove is skipped in Newton Hello everybody, I found some interesting info about Trove in Newton. I'm able to deploy successfully some trove components (api, conductor and taskmanager) on my test Newton environment. As for the Trove guestagent - I'm totally not able to run it neither on Ubuntu Trusty nor Ubuntu Xenial. I found there are no Newton packages for Trusty in The Ubuntu Cloud Archive. The last supported release is Mitaka (I checked the RELEASE_MAP). That looks there is no support for Newton in Trusty, therefore I can not use Trove in Newton. [Amrith Kumar] This appears to be more of a question for the Ubuntu distribution maintainers than for the Trove project. As for the Xenial release, here is a bug where Amrith Kumar (CTO Tesora) says there is no support for Newton also - https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/1652312 (Should be in Ocata only) [Amrith Kumar] This was specific to the MySQL support and as the comment in the bug says, "fwiw, xenial support for mysql does exist in master (soon Ocata)." For me, it looks like Tesora just skipped Newton, did they? [Amrith Kumar] No, but you should distinguish between Tesora and Trove. FYI, my response is only as a contributor to Trove, I do not speak for Tesora. As with next comment, I don't see what Tesora has to do with this if you aren't using their software. I'm asking here because there is no way to get any answers from Tesora and Co. [Amrith Kumar] I don't quite understand where Tesora got involved in this but I'll assume that you are their customer and you know how to get support. If not, then I don't see what you'd like them to do for you. If you are attempting to use packages from the Ubuntu Cloud Archive (as you say you are), it doesn't strike me that you are a Tesora customer. Thanks for any help! -- Best Regards, Evgeniy Ivanov ___ Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack Post to : openstack@lists.openstack.org Unsubscribe : http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack -- Best Regards, Evgeniy Ivanov ___ Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack Post to : openstack@lists.openstack.org Unsubscribe : http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack
Re: [Openstack] Trove is skipped in Newton
Yes, the documentation cannot (unfortunately) cover each and every possible deployment scenario that one finds out there. In the case of Trove where guest images contain software like databases, the project cannot legally distribute guest images. Where we provide tools to build images then those tools will be with configurations that we can know and control; hence the project formerly known as trove-integration (dead and gone, may it rest in peace) which has now been integrated into the trove repository as the trovestack tool. But that tool can only generate images which we know will work in a system configured in a certain way. You can run the trovestack build-image command and make just the images or you can use the kick-start mechanism which will get you going in the full devstack environment. Whether an image built using the build-image command will work on your specific OpenStack, one cannot say for sure. That is just a fact that people like to ignore. I'm always criticized for telling people to first try and deploy trove using devstack and no one wants to listen to the simple reason for this. Trove has a number of moving parts and a specific aspect of complexity that isn't found in other projects; the guest agent on the guest image. And the fact that it is a consumer of a number of underlying OpenStack services that are each tweaked just a little bit by each deployer. The benefit of kicking off Trove in a simple VM with devstack and using the devstack tools to get things going is that you see how the whole system is supposed to work together and it is then much easier to go from there to building your own images and deploying them on an OpenStack system configured in your own specific way. And yes, every single OpenStack system that I've seen is configured in some slightly different way and many of these apparently inconsequential changes do in fact impact Trove. I'll offer the same suggestion again, get a simple system up and running with devstack and see how the piece parts fit together in a configuration that is supposed to work. That'll make it easier to understand how things are supposed to work in whatever configuration you want to put together. This was the same advice I was given when I started working on Trove, and believe me, it is good advice. And if the documentation is lacking, and you find something helpful (or unhelpful) in the documentation, maybe contributing it would be useful for others. -amrith > -Original Message- > From: Mark Kirkwood [mailto:mark.kirkw...@catalyst.net.nz] > Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 12:15 AM > To: openstack@lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [Openstack] Trove is skipped in Newton > > I haven't tried to get Trove working with latest versions - but experience with > previous (Kilo, Liberty, Mitaka) ones suggests that the creation of guest > images requires painstaking determination and error checking - as the > supplied docs are - somewhat - lacking...(read between the lines here). > > Best wishes > > > Mark > > On 07/03/17 20:13, Evgeniy Ivanov wrote: > > Hello everybody, > > > > I found some interesting info about Trove in Newton. I'm able to > > deploy successfully some trove components (api, conductor and > > taskmanager) on my test Newton environment. As for the Trove > > guestagent - I'm totally not able to run it neither on Ubuntu Trusty > > nor Ubuntu Xenial. > > > > I found there are no Newton packages for Trusty in The Ubuntu Cloud > > Archive. The last supported release is Mitaka (I checked the > > RELEASE_MAP). That looks there is no support for Newton in Trusty, > > therefore I can not use Trove in Newton. > > > > As for the Xenial release, here is a bug where Amrith Kumar (CTO > > Tesora) says there is no support for Newton also - > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/1652312 (Should be in Ocata > > only) > > > > For me, it looks like Tesora just skipped Newton, did they? > > > > I'm asking here because there is no way to get any answers from Tesora > > and Co. > > > > Thanks for any help! > > > > > ___ > Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack > Post to : openstack@lists.openstack.org > Unsubscribe : http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack ___ Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack Post to : openstack@lists.openstack.org Unsubscribe : http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack
Re: [Openstack] Trove is skipped in Newton
> -Original Message- > From: Evgeniy Ivanov [mailto:e601...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, March 6, 2017 11:13 PM > To: openstack@lists.openstack.org > Subject: [Openstack] Trove is skipped in Newton > > Hello everybody, > > I found some interesting info about Trove in Newton. I'm able to deploy > successfully some trove components (api, conductor and taskmanager) on > my test Newton environment. As for the Trove guestagent - I'm totally not > able to run it neither on Ubuntu Trusty nor Ubuntu Xenial. > > I found there are no Newton packages for Trusty in The Ubuntu Cloud > Archive. The last supported release is Mitaka (I checked the RELEASE_MAP). > That looks there is no support for Newton in Trusty, therefore I can not use > Trove in Newton. > [Amrith Kumar] This appears to be more of a question for the Ubuntu distribution maintainers than for the Trove project. > As for the Xenial release, here is a bug where Amrith Kumar (CTO Tesora) > says there is no support for Newton also - > https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/1652312 (Should be in Ocata only) [Amrith Kumar] This was specific to the MySQL support and as the comment in the bug says, "fwiw, xenial support for mysql does exist in master (soon Ocata)." > > For me, it looks like Tesora just skipped Newton, did they? > [Amrith Kumar] No, but you should distinguish between Tesora and Trove. FYI, my response is only as a contributor to Trove, I do not speak for Tesora. As with next comment, I don't see what Tesora has to do with this if you aren't using their software. > I'm asking here because there is no way to get any answers from Tesora and > Co. [Amrith Kumar] I don't quite understand where Tesora got involved in this but I'll assume that you are their customer and you know how to get support. If not, then I don't see what you'd like them to do for you. If you are attempting to use packages from the Ubuntu Cloud Archive (as you say you are), it doesn't strike me that you are a Tesora customer. > > Thanks for any help! > > -- > Best Regards, > Evgeniy Ivanov > > > ___ > Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack > Post to : openstack@lists.openstack.org > Unsubscribe : http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack ___ Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack Post to : openstack@lists.openstack.org Unsubscribe : http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack
Re: [Openstack] Trove is skipped in Newton
I haven't tried to get Trove working with latest versions - but experience with previous (Kilo, Liberty, Mitaka) ones suggests that the creation of guest images requires painstaking determination and error checking - as the supplied docs are - somewhat - lacking...(read between the lines here). Best wishes Mark On 07/03/17 20:13, Evgeniy Ivanov wrote: Hello everybody, I found some interesting info about Trove in Newton. I'm able to deploy successfully some trove components (api, conductor and taskmanager) on my test Newton environment. As for the Trove guestagent - I'm totally not able to run it neither on Ubuntu Trusty nor Ubuntu Xenial. I found there are no Newton packages for Trusty in The Ubuntu Cloud Archive. The last supported release is Mitaka (I checked the RELEASE_MAP). That looks there is no support for Newton in Trusty, therefore I can not use Trove in Newton. As for the Xenial release, here is a bug where Amrith Kumar (CTO Tesora) says there is no support for Newton also - https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/1652312 (Should be in Ocata only) For me, it looks like Tesora just skipped Newton, did they? I'm asking here because there is no way to get any answers from Tesora and Co. Thanks for any help! ___ Mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack Post to : openstack@lists.openstack.org Unsubscribe : http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack
