Re: [openstack-dev] [UX] Proposed tools and workflows for OpenStack User Experience contributors
where we can store temporary materials as well as final solutions - github for permanent solutions (guidelines, final designs, ...)? I like this idea. I think we just need to try it out like we did with AskBot and see how it goes. How will GitHub handle the large files that designs produce? Will pure designers be able to fit Git into their workflow naturally? Where does UX fit into the larger OpenStack GitHub space if at all? These aren't questions we need to answer now, just things I think we will discover by using it. I don't have a very clear idea of how the community uses these, or how developers prefer to consume spec, documentation, mockups, etc. We probably need to do three things: 1 - talk to developers to understand how they would like us to communicate designs to them 2 - identify our (UX people) needs and goals for a storage solution 3 - use this info as criteria to find something that will work for everyone. Templates library - = library containing pre-prepared templates for UI designs (ready to use already designed elements, etc) + helps designers to produce designs easier by applying copypaste methodology in the templates ... Should contain wireframes as well as visual designed elements ... Should be available for multiple applications (InDesign, Inkscape, etc) +1. Maybe this could be a section on the wiki with just links to download the templates? It would be great to have a master sheet for the elements as we've done with our InDesign docs. Also, there shouldn't be that many so I think links of the wiki might be feasible. Thoughts? I think the wiki would work, or maybe it ends up being in one of these other tools we're considering. ??? (user community for feedback gathering) --- = tool for grouping people who are willing to give feedback on current UX in OpenStack Yes, this is really big. I've been thinking about how to keep track of the folks who have been giving feedback for the initial Horizon Usability Test we did and the persona research we've been doing. We need to keep identities protected to a certain degree, so I'm not sure the best way to go about this yet. I also wonder if we need a tool for Usability Testing and some guidelines around providing feedback based on testing. +1 I am looking forward to hearing back from you with your feedback and opinions. If it seems to you like a good overview of how things can work, I will be happy to break it down into smaller pieces and make it happen so that we can start using all these tools as soon as possible. Thanks again!! Liz Thank you all -- Jarda ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- Toshiyuki Hayashi NTT Innovation Institute, Inc. Tel:650-579-0800 ex4292 mail:haya...@ntti3.com ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] [UX] Summary of Horizon Usability Testing and plan for Summit session
information details during image selection. Low Priority * Allow users to edit the network an instance after launching instance. * Resolve confusion around the split inline actions button. * Explain what the Instance Boot Source field in Create Instance modal. * Provide description/high level information about flavors for flavor selection. * Make sorting clearer visually. * Provide solution for subnet checkbox to improve usability. Nice to Have * Provide Save as Draft option in the wizard. * Change security group default name to Default security group. Well if you've read this far, thank you for your interest in this topic!! We look forward to sharing some design proposals over the next week and continuing the discussion on tackling some of these items at Summit. Please let me know if anyone has any questions or concerns. Best, Liz ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev I'm looking forward to learning more, Liz. -Jason -- Jason E. Rist Senior Software Engineer OpenStack Management UI Red Hat, Inc. openuc: +1.972.707.6408 mobile: +1.720.256.3933 Freenode: jrist github/identi.ca: knowncitizen ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- Toshiyuki Hayashi NTT Innovation Institute, Inc. Tel:650-579-0800 ex4292 mail:haya...@ntti3.com ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] RFC - Suggestion for switching from Less to Sass (Bootstrap 3 Sass support)
Hi, +1 for switching sass. I believe this is a really nice idea. Sass is very similar to less (more powerful than less!), so I think switching is not a big deal. I just tried PyScss and django-pyscss. https://github.com/Kronuz/pyScss https://github.com/fusionbox/django-pyscss This is bootstrap.css compiled by pyScss and django-pyscss. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7098/stuff/3cb763dfeafb.css It seems to compile itself no problem. There are a few problems with django-pyscss, it doesn't support underscore files import and other directory import for now, I changed the filenames and directory, then it worked. I think those problems will be solved shortly so I'm positive about switching for icehouce-3 time frame. BTW, regarding using the compass feature, it seems PyScss supports some of compass features, but not full of functions. please note that. Thanks, Toshi On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 4:38 AM, Radomir Dopieralski openst...@sheep.art.pl wrote: On 05/02/14 17:32, Jaromir Coufal wrote: [snip] Other concern will be with compilers. So far I've found 3 ways: * rails dependency (how big problem would it be?) * https://pypi.python.org/pypi/scss/0.7.1 * https://pypi.python.org/pypi/SassPython/0.2.1 * ... (other suggestions?) The first of those links actually points to a newer and better maintained project: https://github.com/Kronuz/pyScss The question is, are we jumping out of the frying pan into fire? Are we going to have exactly the same problems a couple of months or years down the road with SASS? How healthy is the SASS community compared to that of LESS and how good are the available tools? We have to remember that we are adding a burden of learning new language for all developers -- although SASS and LESS are relatively similar, we are still running the risk of losing some contributors who don't want to jump through one more hoop. Finally, I wonder how well it would work with multiple SASS files collected from different django apps. Currently, all the LESS files for Bootstrap are included in Openstack Dashboard, simply because the dashboard's files need to inherit from them, and putting them in Horizon would make that impossible. It's a workaround, but it also makes it impossible for apps other than the dashboard (like tuskar-ui) to inherit from those less files. I think that if we had a solution for that for SASS, that would be another strong advantage of switching. -- Radomir Dopieralski ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- Toshiyuki Hayashi NTT Innovation Institute, Inc. Tel:650-579-0800 ex4292 mail:haya...@ntti3.com ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] extend Network topology view in horizon
Hi Raja, I'm sorry, I haven't careated documents yet. When I create, I'll share you. Thanks, Toshi On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 6:39 AM, Raja Srinivasan raja.sriniva...@riverbed.com wrote: Hi Toshi If you have some documentation on the demo, please share it. Thanks Regards Raja Srinivasan E: raja.sriniva...@riverbed.com P: +1(408) 598-1175 -Original Message- From: Toshiyuki Hayashi [mailto:haya...@ntti3.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 10:47 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] extend Network topology view in horizon Hi, Regarding No.2, I'm gonna support FWaaS/LBaaS/VPNaaS, and I've just started creating a demo for that. So I'll add the blueprint soon. Thanks, Toshi On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 2:02 AM, Ofer Blaut obl...@redhat.com wrote: Hi It will be helpful to extend Network topology view in horizon 1. Admin should be able to see the entire/per tenant network topology (we might need a flag to enable/disable it). 2. Supporting ICON for FWaaS/LBaaS/VPNaaS on both admin tenant level, so it will be easy to see the deployments Are there any blueprints to support it ? Thanks Ofer ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- Toshiyuki Hayashi NTT Innovation Institute Inc. Tel:650-579-0800 ex4292 mail:haya...@ntti3.com ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- Toshiyuki Hayashi NTT Innovation Institute Inc. Tel:650-579-0800 ex4292 mail:haya...@ntti3.com ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] extend Network topology view in horizon
Hi Akihito, Thank you for your information. Definitely I'll take care of it. Thanks, Toshi On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 11:02 PM, Akihiro Motoki amot...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, In Havana release, FWaaS and VPNaaS are inserted onto routers. We don't need new blocks but it is better we have some information on firewall or vpnservice on routers. In the reference implementation LBaaS is implemented as one-arm load balancer, so we need a new block in network topology view. As you may know, service insertion model is planned to enhance. It would be great if it is taken into account. Thanks, Akihiro On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Toshiyuki Hayashi haya...@ntti3.com wrote: Hi, Regarding No.2, I'm gonna support FWaaS/LBaaS/VPNaaS, and I've just started creating a demo for that. So I'll add the blueprint soon. Thanks, Toshi On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 2:02 AM, Ofer Blaut obl...@redhat.com wrote: Hi It will be helpful to extend Network topology view in horizon 1. Admin should be able to see the entire/per tenant network topology (we might need a flag to enable/disable it). 2. Supporting ICON for FWaaS/LBaaS/VPNaaS on both admin tenant level, so it will be easy to see the deployments Are there any blueprints to support it ? Thanks Ofer ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- Toshiyuki Hayashi NTT Innovation Institute Inc. Tel:650-579-0800 ex4292 mail:haya...@ntti3.com ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- Toshiyuki Hayashi NTT Innovation Institute Inc. Tel:650-579-0800 ex4292 mail:haya...@ntti3.com ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] extend Network topology view in horizon
Hi, Regarding No.2, I'm gonna support FWaaS/LBaaS/VPNaaS, and I've just started creating a demo for that. So I'll add the blueprint soon. Thanks, Toshi On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 2:02 AM, Ofer Blaut obl...@redhat.com wrote: Hi It will be helpful to extend Network topology view in horizon 1. Admin should be able to see the entire/per tenant network topology (we might need a flag to enable/disable it). 2. Supporting ICON for FWaaS/LBaaS/VPNaaS on both admin tenant level, so it will be easy to see the deployments Are there any blueprints to support it ? Thanks Ofer ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- Toshiyuki Hayashi NTT Innovation Institute Inc. Tel:650-579-0800 ex4292 mail:haya...@ntti3.com ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] Federated Horizon design
Hi, Regarding UX/UI question, you can also ask on Open Stack UX G+ community. https://plus.google.com/communities/100954512393463248122 Also, It might be better to provide context information such as: - Purpose of the UI design - User Goal - Related BP or something The information would help to advise efficiently. Regards, Toshi On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 8:04 AM, D.Selvaraj ds...@kent.ac.uk wrote: Hi Stackers, I kindly request you to look at the attached designs of mine towards the goal of Modifying Horizon with federated access. I would be so thankful for your advices and comments on it. Thank you ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- Toshiyuki Hayashi NTT Innovation Institute Inc. Tel:650-579-0800 ex4292 mail:haya...@ntti3.com ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
[openstack-dev] [Horizon] Wizard UI for modal workflow dialog
Hi, I just added BP Wizard UI for workflow. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/wizard-ui-for-workflow [Screenshot] https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7098/openstack/wizard.png [Demo movie] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCmhI0fbDYgfeature=youtu.be The current some workflow dialogs (which have many tabs) are difficult to understand for users what to do. Wizard UI is better to proceed and understand the tasks users should do. I believe this feature enhances the UX of modal workflow dialog. If you have any comments and concerns, please let me know. Also I started discussing on G+. https://plus.google.com/u/0/110931099804484211859/posts/aMCU2CCzzZq Regards, Toshiyuki ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] Modal form without redirect
Thank you very much! It really helps me. Regards, Toshiyuki On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Gabriel Hurley gabriel.hur...@nebula.comwrote: If you look at the code in the post()[1] method of the base workflow view you'll note that a response to a successful workflow POST is always a redirect[2] (caveat for when it's specifically adding data back to a field, which isn't relevant here). The reason for this is that in general when you POST via a standard browser request you want to send back a redirect so that reloading the page, etc. behave correctly and don't potentially result in double-POSTs. If you're submitting the workflow via a regular HTTP from submit POST then I'd say redirecting is correct; you simply want to redirect to the current page. If you're doing this via AJAX then you'll want to add some new code to otherwise signal a successful response (both to the code and to the user) and to take action accordingly. Hope that helps, - Gabriel [1] https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/horizon/workflows/views.py#L130 [2] https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/horizon/workflows/views.py#L156 -Original Message- From: Toshiyuki Hayashi [mailto:haya...@ntti3.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 2:26 PM To: OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] Modal form without redirect Hi all, I'm working on custmoizing modal form for topology view, I would like to prevent redirecting after submitting. https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/horizon/static/horizon/ js/horizon.modals.js#L110 According to this code, if there is a no redirect_header, the modal form won't redirect. But I couldn't figure out how to remove redirect information from http header. For example, if I want to remove redirect from LaunchInstance https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/openstack_dashboard/ dashboards/project/instances/workflows/create_instance.py#L508 How should I do that? I tried success_url = None, but it doesn't work. If you have any idea, that would be great. Regards, Toshiyuki ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- Toshiyuki Hayashi NTT Innovation Institute Inc. Tel:650-579-0800 ex4292 mail:haya...@ntti3.com ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
[openstack-dev] [Horizon] Modal form without redirect
Hi all, I’m working on custmoizing modal form for topology view, I would like to prevent redirecting after submitting. https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/horizon/static/horizon/js/horizon.modals.js#L110 According to this code, if there is a no redirect_header, the modal form won't redirect. But I couldn't figure out how to remove redirect information from http header. For example, if I want to remove redirect from LaunchInstance https://github.com/openstack/horizon/blob/master/openstack_dashboard/dashboards/project/instances/workflows/create_instance.py#L508 How should I do that? I tried success_url = None, but it doesn't work. If you have any idea, that would be great. Regards, Toshiyuki ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
