Re: [openstack-dev] [Climate] Next two weekly meetings cancelled ?
Both Mon and Tue 1500 UTC works for me On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Nikolay Starodubtsev nstarodubt...@mirantis.com wrote: I'm on holidays till 9th January. And I don't think I'll have an internet access all the time on holidays. p.s. By the way, I'll prefer Friday's evenings as new meeting time if it is available - it only one day when I don't do my BJJ classes. Or we can move to 1900-2000UTC. it looks fine for me. Or move to early Europe morning. Nikolay Starodubtsev Software Engineer Mirantis Inc. Skype: dark_harlequine1 2013/12/19 Sylvain Bauza sylvain.ba...@bull.net Le 19/12/2013 13:57, Dina Belova a écrit : I have Christmas holidays till 12th January... So I don't really know I if I will be available 6th Jan. Oh ok. Who else are still on vacation these times ? We can do our next meeting on 12th Jan, but I'm concerned with the delivery of Climate 0.1 which would be one week after. -Sylvain ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- Sincerely yours, Sergey Lukjanov Savanna Technical Lead Mirantis Inc. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Climate] Next two weekly meetings cancelled ?
Well, 2000UTC means midnight for you, guys. Not really safe for family concerns :-) Maybe you were meaning 2000 local time, so 1600 UTC ? I can propose Fridays 1500 UTC (so 19:00 your time ;-)) as an alternative (both meeting channels are free this time) Let's vote : +1 for Fridays 1500 UTC. Le 20/12/2013 05:43, Nikolay Starodubtsev a écrit : I'm on holidays till 9th January. And I don't think I'll have an internet access all the time on holidays. p.s. By the way, I'll prefer Friday's evenings as new meeting time if it is available - it only one day when I don't do my BJJ classes. Or we can move to 1900-2000UTC. it looks fine for me. Or move to early Europe morning. *__* Nikolay Starodubtsev Software Engineer Mirantis Inc. Skype: dark_harlequine1 2013/12/19 Sylvain Bauza sylvain.ba...@bull.net mailto:sylvain.ba...@bull.net Le 19/12/2013 13:57, Dina Belova a écrit : I have Christmas holidays till 12th January... So I don't really know I if I will be available 6th Jan. Oh ok. Who else are still on vacation these times ? We can do our next meeting on 12th Jan, but I'm concerned with the delivery of Climate 0.1 which would be one week after. -Sylvain ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org mailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Climate] Next two weekly meetings cancelled ?
+1 for Fridays 1500 UTC On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Sylvain Bauza sylvain.ba...@bull.netwrote: Well, 2000UTC means midnight for you, guys. Not really safe for family concerns :-) Maybe you were meaning 2000 local time, so 1600 UTC ? I can propose Fridays 1500 UTC (so 19:00 your time ;-)) as an alternative (both meeting channels are free this time) Let's vote : +1 for Fridays 1500 UTC. Le 20/12/2013 05:43, Nikolay Starodubtsev a écrit : I'm on holidays till 9th January. And I don't think I'll have an internet access all the time on holidays. p.s. By the way, I'll prefer Friday's evenings as new meeting time if it is available - it only one day when I don't do my BJJ classes. Or we can move to 1900-2000UTC. it looks fine for me. Or move to early Europe morning. Nikolay Starodubtsev Software Engineer Mirantis Inc. Skype: dark_harlequine1 2013/12/19 Sylvain Bauza sylvain.ba...@bull.net Le 19/12/2013 13:57, Dina Belova a écrit : I have Christmas holidays till 12th January... So I don't really know I if I will be available 6th Jan. Oh ok. Who else are still on vacation these times ? We can do our next meeting on 12th Jan, but I'm concerned with the delivery of Climate 0.1 which would be one week after. -Sylvain ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing listOpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.orghttp://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- Sincerely yours, Sergey Lukjanov Savanna Technical Lead Mirantis Inc. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Climate] Next two weekly meetings cancelled ?
+1 On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Sergey Lukjanov slukja...@mirantis.comwrote: +1 for Fridays 1500 UTC On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Sylvain Bauza sylvain.ba...@bull.netwrote: Well, 2000UTC means midnight for you, guys. Not really safe for family concerns :-) Maybe you were meaning 2000 local time, so 1600 UTC ? I can propose Fridays 1500 UTC (so 19:00 your time ;-)) as an alternative (both meeting channels are free this time) Let's vote : +1 for Fridays 1500 UTC. Le 20/12/2013 05:43, Nikolay Starodubtsev a écrit : I'm on holidays till 9th January. And I don't think I'll have an internet access all the time on holidays. p.s. By the way, I'll prefer Friday's evenings as new meeting time if it is available - it only one day when I don't do my BJJ classes. Or we can move to 1900-2000UTC. it looks fine for me. Or move to early Europe morning. Nikolay Starodubtsev Software Engineer Mirantis Inc. Skype: dark_harlequine1 2013/12/19 Sylvain Bauza sylvain.ba...@bull.net Le 19/12/2013 13:57, Dina Belova a écrit : I have Christmas holidays till 12th January... So I don't really know I if I will be available 6th Jan. Oh ok. Who else are still on vacation these times ? We can do our next meeting on 12th Jan, but I'm concerned with the delivery of Climate 0.1 which would be one week after. -Sylvain ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing listOpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.orghttp://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- Sincerely yours, Sergey Lukjanov Savanna Technical Lead Mirantis Inc. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- Best regards, Dina Belova Software Engineer Mirantis Inc. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Climate] Next two weekly meetings cancelled ?
+1 Nikolay Starodubtsev Software Engineer Mirantis Inc. Skype: dark_harlequine1 2013/12/20 Dina Belova dbel...@mirantis.com +1 On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Sergey Lukjanov slukja...@mirantis.comwrote: +1 for Fridays 1500 UTC On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Sylvain Bauza sylvain.ba...@bull.netwrote: Well, 2000UTC means midnight for you, guys. Not really safe for family concerns :-) Maybe you were meaning 2000 local time, so 1600 UTC ? I can propose Fridays 1500 UTC (so 19:00 your time ;-)) as an alternative (both meeting channels are free this time) Let's vote : +1 for Fridays 1500 UTC. Le 20/12/2013 05:43, Nikolay Starodubtsev a écrit : I'm on holidays till 9th January. And I don't think I'll have an internet access all the time on holidays. p.s. By the way, I'll prefer Friday's evenings as new meeting time if it is available - it only one day when I don't do my BJJ classes. Or we can move to 1900-2000UTC. it looks fine for me. Or move to early Europe morning. Nikolay Starodubtsev Software Engineer Mirantis Inc. Skype: dark_harlequine1 2013/12/19 Sylvain Bauza sylvain.ba...@bull.net Le 19/12/2013 13:57, Dina Belova a écrit : I have Christmas holidays till 12th January... So I don't really know I if I will be available 6th Jan. Oh ok. Who else are still on vacation these times ? We can do our next meeting on 12th Jan, but I'm concerned with the delivery of Climate 0.1 which would be one week after. -Sylvain ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing listOpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.orghttp://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- Sincerely yours, Sergey Lukjanov Savanna Technical Lead Mirantis Inc. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- Best regards, Dina Belova Software Engineer Mirantis Inc. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Climate] Next two weekly meetings cancelled ?
Once that agreed, let's go back to the initial question : when do we resume weekly meetings ? Is Friday 10th Jan 1500 UTC OK for you ? Note : Other committers, YorikSar, jd__, scroiset and f_rossigneux haven't yet replied. -Sylvain Le 20/12/2013 13:28, Nikolay Starodubtsev a écrit : +1 *__* Nikolay Starodubtsev Software Engineer Mirantis Inc. Skype: dark_harlequine1 2013/12/20 Dina Belova dbel...@mirantis.com mailto:dbel...@mirantis.com +1 On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Sergey Lukjanov slukja...@mirantis.com mailto:slukja...@mirantis.com wrote: +1 for Fridays 1500 UTC On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Sylvain Bauza sylvain.ba...@bull.net mailto:sylvain.ba...@bull.net wrote: Well, 2000UTC means midnight for you, guys. Not really safe for family concerns :-) Maybe you were meaning 2000 local time, so 1600 UTC ? I can propose Fridays 1500 UTC (so 19:00 your time ;-)) as an alternative (both meeting channels are free this time) Let's vote : +1 for Fridays 1500 UTC. Le 20/12/2013 05:43, Nikolay Starodubtsev a écrit : I'm on holidays till 9th January. And I don't think I'll have an internet access all the time on holidays. p.s. By the way, I'll prefer Friday's evenings as new meeting time if it is available - it only one day when I don't do my BJJ classes. Or we can move to 1900-2000UTC. it looks fine for me. Or move to early Europe morning. *__* Nikolay Starodubtsev Software Engineer Mirantis Inc. Skype: dark_harlequine1 2013/12/19 Sylvain Bauza sylvain.ba...@bull.net mailto:sylvain.ba...@bull.net Le 19/12/2013 13:57, Dina Belova a écrit : I have Christmas holidays till 12th January... So I don't really know I if I will be available 6th Jan. Oh ok. Who else are still on vacation these times ? We can do our next meeting on 12th Jan, but I'm concerned with the delivery of Climate 0.1 which would be one week after. -Sylvain ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org mailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org mailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org mailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- Sincerely yours, Sergey Lukjanov Savanna Technical Lead Mirantis Inc. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org mailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- Best regards, Dina Belova Software Engineer Mirantis Inc. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org mailto:OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Climate] Next two weekly meetings cancelled ?
It's okay for me. Nikolay Starodubtsev Software Engineer Mirantis Inc. Skype: dark_harlequine1 2013/12/20 Sylvain Bauza sylvain.ba...@bull.net Once that agreed, let's go back to the initial question : when do we resume weekly meetings ? Is Friday 10th Jan 1500 UTC OK for you ? Note : Other committers, YorikSar, jd__, scroiset and f_rossigneux haven't yet replied. -Sylvain Le 20/12/2013 13:28, Nikolay Starodubtsev a écrit : +1 Nikolay Starodubtsev Software Engineer Mirantis Inc. Skype: dark_harlequine1 2013/12/20 Dina Belova dbel...@mirantis.com +1 On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Sergey Lukjanov slukja...@mirantis.comwrote: +1 for Fridays 1500 UTC On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Sylvain Bauza sylvain.ba...@bull.netwrote: Well, 2000UTC means midnight for you, guys. Not really safe for family concerns :-) Maybe you were meaning 2000 local time, so 1600 UTC ? I can propose Fridays 1500 UTC (so 19:00 your time ;-)) as an alternative (both meeting channels are free this time) Let's vote : +1 for Fridays 1500 UTC. Le 20/12/2013 05:43, Nikolay Starodubtsev a écrit : I'm on holidays till 9th January. And I don't think I'll have an internet access all the time on holidays. p.s. By the way, I'll prefer Friday's evenings as new meeting time if it is available - it only one day when I don't do my BJJ classes. Or we can move to 1900-2000UTC. it looks fine for me. Or move to early Europe morning. Nikolay Starodubtsev Software Engineer Mirantis Inc. Skype: dark_harlequine1 2013/12/19 Sylvain Bauza sylvain.ba...@bull.net Le 19/12/2013 13:57, Dina Belova a écrit : I have Christmas holidays till 12th January... So I don't really know I if I will be available 6th Jan. Oh ok. Who else are still on vacation these times ? We can do our next meeting on 12th Jan, but I'm concerned with the delivery of Climate 0.1 which would be one week after. -Sylvain ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing listOpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.orghttp://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- Sincerely yours, Sergey Lukjanov Savanna Technical Lead Mirantis Inc. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- Best regards, Dina Belova Software Engineer Mirantis Inc. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing listOpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.orghttp://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Climate] Next two weekly meetings cancelled ?
It's ok for me too. On Friday, December 20, 2013, Nikolay Starodubtsev wrote: It's okay for me. Nikolay Starodubtsev Software Engineer Mirantis Inc. Skype: dark_harlequine1 2013/12/20 Sylvain Bauza sylvain.ba...@bull.net Once that agreed, let's go back to the initial question : when do we resume weekly meetings ? Is Friday 10th Jan 1500 UTC OK for you ? Note : Other committers, YorikSar, jd__, scroiset and f_rossigneux haven't yet replied. -Sylvain Le 20/12/2013 13:28, Nikolay Starodubtsev a écrit : +1 Nikolay Starodubtsev Software Engineer Mirantis Inc. Skype: dark_harlequine1 2013/12/20 Dina Belova dbel...@mirantis.com +1 On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Sergey Lukjanov slukja...@mirantis.comwrote: +1 for Fridays 1500 UTC On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Sylvain Bauza sylvain.ba...@bull.netwrote: Well, 2000UTC means midnight for you, guys. Not really safe for family concerns :-) Maybe you were meaning 2000 local time, so 1600 UTC ? I can propose Fridays 1500 UTC (so 19:00 your time ;-)) as an alternative (both meeting channels are free this time) Let's vote : +1 for Fridays 1500 UTC. Le 20/12/2013 05:43, Nikolay Starodubtsev a écrit : I'm on holidays -- Sincerely yours, Sergey Lukjanov Savanna Technical Lead Mirantis Inc. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
[openstack-dev] [Climate] Next two weekly meetings cancelled ?
Hi team, I won't be able to attend the next two weekly meetings (23Dec and 30Dec), I would like to postpone our meetings till 6th January 2014. Any objections to this ? -Sylvain ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Climate] Next two weekly meetings cancelled ?
Howdy, yup, agreed. Additionally, I'd like to start a discussion about new meeting time that'd be more US-folks friendly. Thanks. On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Sylvain Bauza sylvain.ba...@bull.netwrote: Hi team, I won't be able to attend the next two weekly meetings (23Dec and 30Dec), I would like to postpone our meetings till 6th January 2014. Any objections to this ? -Sylvain ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- Sincerely yours, Sergey Lukjanov Savanna Technical Lead Mirantis Inc. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Climate] Next two weekly meetings cancelled ?
I have Christmas holidays till 12th January... So I don't really know I if I will be available 6th Jan. On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Sylvain Bauza sylvain.ba...@bull.netwrote: Hi team, I won't be able to attend the next two weekly meetings (23Dec and 30Dec), I would like to postpone our meetings till 6th January 2014. Any objections to this ? -Sylvain ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- Best regards, Dina Belova Software Engineer Mirantis Inc. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Climate] Next two weekly meetings cancelled ?
Le 19/12/2013 13:54, Sergey Lukjanov a écrit : yup, agreed. Additionally, I'd like to start a discussion about new meeting time that'd be more US-folks friendly. Luckily, we do have Internet now : http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?iso=20140106p1=195p2=166p3=179http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?iso=20140106p1=195p2=166p3=179p4=224 Option #1 : Mondays 1500UTC could be the best fit for us, as most of US people (except PDT) could join us, but : 1. that's pretty late for you, guys 2. the meeting slot is busy on #openstack-meeting (Stackalytics), we need to switch to #openstack-meeting-alt So, alternatives are : Option #2 : Mondays 1400 UTC, but : 1. we loose a certain interest in moving our timeslot for US folks Option #3 : Tuesdays 1500 UTC, pretty interesting because that's not an week early-bird meeting for US, but : 1. the meeting slot is busy on #openstack-meeting (Scheduler sub-group), we need to switch to #openstack-meeting-alt Thoughts ? My vote goes to #1 personnally. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Climate] Next two weekly meetings cancelled ?
Le 19/12/2013 13:57, Dina Belova a écrit : I have Christmas holidays till 12th January... So I don't really know I if I will be available 6th Jan. Oh ok. Who else are still on vacation these times ? We can do our next meeting on 12th Jan, but I'm concerned with the delivery of Climate 0.1 which would be one week after. -Sylvain ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [Climate] Next two weekly meetings cancelled ?
I'm on holidays till 9th January. And I don't think I'll have an internet access all the time on holidays. p.s. By the way, I'll prefer Friday's evenings as new meeting time if it is available - it only one day when I don't do my BJJ classes. Or we can move to 1900-2000UTC. it looks fine for me. Or move to early Europe morning. Nikolay Starodubtsev Software Engineer Mirantis Inc. Skype: dark_harlequine1 2013/12/19 Sylvain Bauza sylvain.ba...@bull.net Le 19/12/2013 13:57, Dina Belova a écrit : I have Christmas holidays till 12th January... So I don't really know I if I will be available 6th Jan. Oh ok. Who else are still on vacation these times ? We can do our next meeting on 12th Jan, but I'm concerned with the delivery of Climate 0.1 which would be one week after. -Sylvain ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev