Re: [openstack-dev] [HA] weekly High Availability meetings on IRC start next Monday

[Sergii Golovatiuk]

Hi,

United Kingdom/London has UTC+1 in summer. Thus I use Ghana/Accra which is
pure UTC all year.

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On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 1:23 AM, Adam Spiers  wrote:

> Sergii Golovatiuk  wrote:
> > > > [2] declares meetings at 9am UTC which might be tough for US based
> > > folks. I
> > > > might be wrong here as I don't know the location of HA experts.
> > > >
> > > >  [2] http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#High_Availability_Meeting
> > >
> > > Yes, I was aware of this :-/  The problem is that the agenda for the
> > > first meeting will focus on hypervisor HA, and the interested parties
> > > who met in Tokyo are all based in either Europe or Asia (Japan and
> > > Australia).  It's hard but possible to find a time which accommodates
> > > two continents, but almost impossible to find a time which
> > > accommodates three :-/
> > >
> > >
> > I ran into issues setting event in UTC. Use Ghana/Accra in google
> calendar
> > as it doesn't have UTC time zone
>
> Speaking on behalf of my home town, United Kingdom/London would also
> work ;-)
>
> But even easier, just add this URL to your Google Calendar:
>
>   http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/calendars/high-availability-meeting.ics
>
> or if you want to really spam your calendar, you can add all OpenStack
> meetings in one go :-)
>
>   http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irc-meetings.ical
>
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Re: [openstack-dev] [HA] weekly High Availability meetings on IRC start next Monday

[Sergii Golovatiuk]

Hi Adam,

It's great we are moving forward with HA community. Thank you so much for
brining HA to next level. However, I have couple of comments

[1] contains agenda. I guess we should move it to
https://etherpad.openstack.org. That will allow people to add own topics to
discuss. Action items can be put there as well.

[2] declares meetings at 9am UTC which might be tough for US based folks. I
might be wrong here as I don't know the location of HA experts.

 [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HATeamMeeting
 [2] http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#High_Availability_Meeting

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Sergii Golovatiuk,
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IRC #holser

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 6:18 PM, Adam Spiers  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> After some discussion in Tokyo by stakeholders in OpenStack High
> Availability, I'm pleased to announce that from next Monday we're
> starting a series of weekly meetings on IRC.  Details are here:
>
>   https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HATeamMeeting
>   http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#High_Availability_Meeting
>
> The agenda for the first meeting is set and will focus on
>
>   1. the pros and cons of the existing approaches to hypervisor HA
>  which rely on automatic resurrection[0] of VMs, and
>
>   2. how we might be able to converge on a best-of-breed solution.
>
> All are welcome to join!
>
> On a related note, even if you can't attend the meeting, you can still
> use the new FreeNode IRC channel #openstack-ha for all HA-related
> discussion.
>
> Cheers,
> Adam
>
> [0] In the OpenStack community resurrection is commonly referred to
> as "evacuation", which is a slightly unfortunate misnomer.
>
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Re: [openstack-dev] [HA] weekly High Availability meetings on IRC start next Monday

[Adam Spiers]

Sergii Golovatiuk  wrote:
> > > [2] declares meetings at 9am UTC which might be tough for US based
> > folks. I
> > > might be wrong here as I don't know the location of HA experts.
> > >
> > >  [2] http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#High_Availability_Meeting
> >
> > Yes, I was aware of this :-/  The problem is that the agenda for the
> > first meeting will focus on hypervisor HA, and the interested parties
> > who met in Tokyo are all based in either Europe or Asia (Japan and
> > Australia).  It's hard but possible to find a time which accommodates
> > two continents, but almost impossible to find a time which
> > accommodates three :-/
> >
> >
> I ran into issues setting event in UTC. Use Ghana/Accra in google calendar
> as it doesn't have UTC time zone

Speaking on behalf of my home town, United Kingdom/London would also
work ;-)

But even easier, just add this URL to your Google Calendar:

  http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/calendars/high-availability-meeting.ics

or if you want to really spam your calendar, you can add all OpenStack
meetings in one go :-)

  http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irc-meetings.ical

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Re: [openstack-dev] [HA] weekly High Availability meetings on IRC start next Monday

[Adam Spiers]

Hi Sergii,

Thanks a lot for the feedback!

Sergii Golovatiuk  wrote:
> Hi Adam,
> 
> It's great we are moving forward with HA community. Thank you so much for
> brining HA to next level. However, I have couple of comments
> 
> [1] contains agenda. I guess we should move it to
> https://etherpad.openstack.org. That will allow people to add own topics to
> discuss. Action items can be put there as well.
>
>  [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HATeamMeeting

It's a wiki, so anyone can already add their own topics, and in fact
the page already encourages people to do that :-)

I'd prefer to keep it as a wiki because that is consistent with the
approach of all the other OpenStack meetings, as recommended by

  https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/CreateaMeeting#Add_a_Meeting

It also results in a better audit trail than etherpad (where changes
can be made anonymously).

Action items will be captured by the MeetBot:

  https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/meetbot/tree/doc/Manual.txt

> [2] declares meetings at 9am UTC which might be tough for US based folks. I
> might be wrong here as I don't know the location of HA experts.
> 
>  [2] http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#High_Availability_Meeting

Yes, I was aware of this :-/  The problem is that the agenda for the
first meeting will focus on hypervisor HA, and the interested parties
who met in Tokyo are all based in either Europe or Asia (Japan and
Australia).  It's hard but possible to find a time which accommodates
two continents, but almost impossible to find a time which
accommodates three :-/

If it's any consolation, the meeting logs will be available
afterwards, and also the meeting is expected to be short (around 30
minutes) since the majority of work will continue via email and IRC
outside the meeting.  This first meeting is mainly to set a direction
for future collaboration.

However suggestions for how to handle this better are always welcome,
and if the geographical distribution of attendees of future meetings
changes then of course we can consider changing the time in order to
accommodate.  I want it to be an inclusive sub-community.

Cheers,
Adam

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Re: [openstack-dev] [HA] weekly High Availability meetings on IRC start next Monday

[Sergii Golovatiuk]

Hi,


On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Adam Spiers  wrote:

> Hi Sergii,
>
> Thanks a lot for the feedback!
>
> Sergii Golovatiuk  wrote:
> > Hi Adam,
> >
> > It's great we are moving forward with HA community. Thank you so much for
> > brining HA to next level. However, I have couple of comments
> >
> > [1] contains agenda. I guess we should move it to
> > https://etherpad.openstack.org. That will allow people to add own
> topics to
> > discuss. Action items can be put there as well.
> >
> >  [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HATeamMeeting
>
> It's a wiki, so anyone can already add their own topics, and in fact
> the page already encourages people to do that :-)
>
> I'd prefer to keep it as a wiki because that is consistent with the
> approach of all the other OpenStack meetings, as recommended by
>
>   https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/CreateaMeeting#Add_a_Meeting
>
> It also results in a better audit trail than etherpad (where changes
> can be made anonymously).
>

I agree. Let's follow the rules.

>
> Action items will be captured by the MeetBot:
>
>
> https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/meetbot/tree/doc/Manual.txt
>
> > [2] declares meetings at 9am UTC which might be tough for US based
> folks. I
> > might be wrong here as I don't know the location of HA experts.
> >
> >  [2] http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#High_Availability_Meeting
>
> Yes, I was aware of this :-/  The problem is that the agenda for the
> first meeting will focus on hypervisor HA, and the interested parties
> who met in Tokyo are all based in either Europe or Asia (Japan and
> Australia).  It's hard but possible to find a time which accommodates
> two continents, but almost impossible to find a time which
> accommodates three :-/
>
>
I ran into issues setting event in UTC. Use Ghana/Accra in google calendar
as it doesn't have UTC time zone


> If it's any consolation, the meeting logs will be available
> afterwards, and also the meeting is expected to be short (around 30
> minutes) since the majority of work will continue via email and IRC
> outside the meeting.  This first meeting is mainly to set a direction
> for future collaboration.
>
> However suggestions for how to handle this better are always welcome,
> and if the geographical distribution of attendees of future meetings
> changes then of course we can consider changing the time in order to
> accommodate.  I want it to be an inclusive sub-community.
>
> Cheers,
> Adam
>
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[openstack-dev] [HA] weekly High Availability meetings on IRC start next Monday

[Adam Spiers]

Hi all,

After some discussion in Tokyo by stakeholders in OpenStack High
Availability, I'm pleased to announce that from next Monday we're
starting a series of weekly meetings on IRC.  Details are here:

  https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HATeamMeeting
  http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#High_Availability_Meeting

The agenda for the first meeting is set and will focus on

  1. the pros and cons of the existing approaches to hypervisor HA
 which rely on automatic resurrection[0] of VMs, and

  2. how we might be able to converge on a best-of-breed solution.

All are welcome to join!

On a related note, even if you can't attend the meeting, you can still
use the new FreeNode IRC channel #openstack-ha for all HA-related
discussion.

Cheers,
Adam

[0] In the OpenStack community resurrection is commonly referred to
as "evacuation", which is a slightly unfortunate misnomer.

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