Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Interest in discussing vendor plugins for L3 services?

2014-02-15 Thread Paul Michali
Great!

Looks like we have a bunch of people interested in this. Given the Neutron 
deadline for I-3, I'll wait and try to setup in IRC for next week. From there, 
if there's enough interest, we can try to get a session to discuss at the 
Summit.

I'd love to hear the ideas and thoughts on this topic… hopefully we can enhance 
both the core and vendor services capabilities.

Kind regards.

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On Feb 12, 2014, at 11:43 AM, Stephen Wong s3w...@midokura.com wrote:

 Hi Paul,
 
 I am interested in this topic - please let me know if there is any update 
 on meeting or discussions.
 
 Thanks,
 - Stephen
 
 
 On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Paul Michali p...@cisco.com wrote:
 I'd like to see if there is interest in discussing vendor plugins for L3 
 services. The goal is to strive for consistency across vendor plugins/drivers 
 and across service types (if possible/sensible). Some of this could/should 
 apply to reference drivers as well. I'm thinking about these topics (based on 
 questions I've had on VPNaaS - feel free to add to the list):
 
 How to handle vendor specific validation (e.g. say a vendor has restrictions 
 or added capabilities compared to the reference drivers for attributes).
 Providing client feedback (e.g. should help and validation be extended to 
 include vendor capabilities or should it be delegated to server reporting?)
 Handling and reporting of errors to the user (e.g. how to indicate to the 
 user that a failure has occurred establishing a IPSec tunnel in device 
 driver?)
 Persistence of vendor specific information (e.g. should new tables be used or 
 should/can existing reference tables be extended?).
 Provider selection for resources (e.g. should we allow --provider attribute 
 on VPN IPSec policies to have vendor specific policies or should we rely on 
 checks at connection creation for policy compatibility?)
 Handling of multiple device drivers per vendor (e.g. have service driver 
 determine which device driver to send RPC requests, or have agent determine 
 what driver requests should go to - say based on the router type)
 If you have an interest, please reply to me and include some days/times that 
 would be good for you, and I'll send out a notice on the ML of the time/date 
 and we can discuss.
 
 Looking to hearing form you!
 
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Interest in discussing vendor plugins for L3 services?

2014-02-14 Thread Nick Ma
I'm also interested in it. UTC8.

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Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Interest in discussing vendor plugins for L3 services?

2014-02-14 Thread punal patel
I am interested. UTC - 8.


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 I'm also interested in it. UTC8.

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Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Interest in discussing vendor plugins for L3 services?

2014-02-14 Thread shihanzhang
I'm  interested in it. UTC8.
At 2014-02-15 00:31:47,punal patel punal.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

I am interested. UTC - 8.



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I'm also interested in it. UTC8.

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Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Interest in discussing vendor plugins for L3 services?

2014-02-14 Thread Yi Sun
I'm interested in it. UTC8


On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 11:01 PM, shihanzhang ayshihanzh...@126.com wrote:

 I'm  interested in it. UTC8.


 At 2014-02-15 00:31:47,punal patel punal.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am interested. UTC - 8.


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 I'm also interested in it. UTC8.

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Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Interest in discussing vendor plugins for L3 services?

2014-02-13 Thread Kanzhe Jiang
I am interested too. UTC-8.


On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 11:38 PM, Gary Duan garyd...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm interested in the discussion. UTC-8.

 Gary


 On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Mandeep Dhami 
 dh...@noironetworks.comwrote:


 I would be interested as well (UTC-8).

 Regards,
 Mandeep



 On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 8:18 AM, Eugene Nikanorov 
 enikano...@mirantis.com wrote:

 I'd be interested too.

 Thanks,
 Eugene.


 On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 7:51 PM, Carl Baldwin c...@ecbaldwin.netwrote:

 Paul,

 I'm interesting in joining the discussion.  UTC-7.  Any word on when
 this will take place?

 Carl

 On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Paul Michali p...@cisco.com wrote:
  I'd like to see if there is interest in discussing vendor plugins for
 L3
  services. The goal is to strive for consistency across vendor
  plugins/drivers and across service types (if possible/sensible). Some
 of
  this could/should apply to reference drivers as well. I'm thinking
 about
  these topics (based on questions I've had on VPNaaS - feel free to
 add to
  the list):
 
  How to handle vendor specific validation (e.g. say a vendor has
 restrictions
  or added capabilities compared to the reference drivers for
 attributes).
  Providing client feedback (e.g. should help and validation be
 extended to
  include vendor capabilities or should it be delegated to server
 reporting?)
  Handling and reporting of errors to the user (e.g. how to indicate to
 the
  user that a failure has occurred establishing a IPSec tunnel in device
  driver?)
  Persistence of vendor specific information (e.g. should new tables be
 used
  or should/can existing reference tables be extended?).
  Provider selection for resources (e.g. should we allow --provider
 attribute
  on VPN IPSec policies to have vendor specific policies or should we
 rely on
  checks at connection creation for policy compatibility?)
  Handling of multiple device drivers per vendor (e.g. have service
 driver
  determine which device driver to send RPC requests, or have agent
 determine
  what driver requests should go to - say based on the router type)
 
  If you have an interest, please reply to me and include some
 days/times that
  would be good for you, and I'll send out a notice on the ML of the
 time/date
  and we can discuss.
 
  Looking to hearing form you!
 
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Interest in discussing vendor plugins for L3 services?

2014-02-12 Thread Carl Baldwin
Paul,

I'm interesting in joining the discussion.  UTC-7.  Any word on when
this will take place?

Carl

On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Paul Michali p...@cisco.com wrote:
 I'd like to see if there is interest in discussing vendor plugins for L3
 services. The goal is to strive for consistency across vendor
 plugins/drivers and across service types (if possible/sensible). Some of
 this could/should apply to reference drivers as well. I'm thinking about
 these topics (based on questions I've had on VPNaaS - feel free to add to
 the list):

 How to handle vendor specific validation (e.g. say a vendor has restrictions
 or added capabilities compared to the reference drivers for attributes).
 Providing client feedback (e.g. should help and validation be extended to
 include vendor capabilities or should it be delegated to server reporting?)
 Handling and reporting of errors to the user (e.g. how to indicate to the
 user that a failure has occurred establishing a IPSec tunnel in device
 driver?)
 Persistence of vendor specific information (e.g. should new tables be used
 or should/can existing reference tables be extended?).
 Provider selection for resources (e.g. should we allow --provider attribute
 on VPN IPSec policies to have vendor specific policies or should we rely on
 checks at connection creation for policy compatibility?)
 Handling of multiple device drivers per vendor (e.g. have service driver
 determine which device driver to send RPC requests, or have agent determine
 what driver requests should go to - say based on the router type)

 If you have an interest, please reply to me and include some days/times that
 would be good for you, and I'll send out a notice on the ML of the time/date
 and we can discuss.

 Looking to hearing form you!

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Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Interest in discussing vendor plugins for L3 services?

2014-02-12 Thread Eugene Nikanorov
I'd be interested too.

Thanks,
Eugene.


On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 7:51 PM, Carl Baldwin c...@ecbaldwin.net wrote:

 Paul,

 I'm interesting in joining the discussion.  UTC-7.  Any word on when
 this will take place?

 Carl

 On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Paul Michali p...@cisco.com wrote:
  I'd like to see if there is interest in discussing vendor plugins for L3
  services. The goal is to strive for consistency across vendor
  plugins/drivers and across service types (if possible/sensible). Some of
  this could/should apply to reference drivers as well. I'm thinking about
  these topics (based on questions I've had on VPNaaS - feel free to add to
  the list):
 
  How to handle vendor specific validation (e.g. say a vendor has
 restrictions
  or added capabilities compared to the reference drivers for attributes).
  Providing client feedback (e.g. should help and validation be extended
 to
  include vendor capabilities or should it be delegated to server
 reporting?)
  Handling and reporting of errors to the user (e.g. how to indicate to the
  user that a failure has occurred establishing a IPSec tunnel in device
  driver?)
  Persistence of vendor specific information (e.g. should new tables be
 used
  or should/can existing reference tables be extended?).
  Provider selection for resources (e.g. should we allow --provider
 attribute
  on VPN IPSec policies to have vendor specific policies or should we rely
 on
  checks at connection creation for policy compatibility?)
  Handling of multiple device drivers per vendor (e.g. have service driver
  determine which device driver to send RPC requests, or have agent
 determine
  what driver requests should go to - say based on the router type)
 
  If you have an interest, please reply to me and include some days/times
 that
  would be good for you, and I'll send out a notice on the ML of the
 time/date
  and we can discuss.
 
  Looking to hearing form you!
 
  PCM (Paul Michali)
 
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Interest in discussing vendor plugins for L3 services?

2014-02-12 Thread Mandeep Dhami
I would be interested as well (UTC-8).

Regards,
Mandeep



On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 8:18 AM, Eugene Nikanorov
enikano...@mirantis.comwrote:

 I'd be interested too.

 Thanks,
 Eugene.


 On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 7:51 PM, Carl Baldwin c...@ecbaldwin.net wrote:

 Paul,

 I'm interesting in joining the discussion.  UTC-7.  Any word on when
 this will take place?

 Carl

 On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Paul Michali p...@cisco.com wrote:
  I'd like to see if there is interest in discussing vendor plugins for L3
  services. The goal is to strive for consistency across vendor
  plugins/drivers and across service types (if possible/sensible). Some of
  this could/should apply to reference drivers as well. I'm thinking about
  these topics (based on questions I've had on VPNaaS - feel free to add
 to
  the list):
 
  How to handle vendor specific validation (e.g. say a vendor has
 restrictions
  or added capabilities compared to the reference drivers for attributes).
  Providing client feedback (e.g. should help and validation be
 extended to
  include vendor capabilities or should it be delegated to server
 reporting?)
  Handling and reporting of errors to the user (e.g. how to indicate to
 the
  user that a failure has occurred establishing a IPSec tunnel in device
  driver?)
  Persistence of vendor specific information (e.g. should new tables be
 used
  or should/can existing reference tables be extended?).
  Provider selection for resources (e.g. should we allow --provider
 attribute
  on VPN IPSec policies to have vendor specific policies or should we
 rely on
  checks at connection creation for policy compatibility?)
  Handling of multiple device drivers per vendor (e.g. have service driver
  determine which device driver to send RPC requests, or have agent
 determine
  what driver requests should go to - say based on the router type)
 
  If you have an interest, please reply to me and include some days/times
 that
  would be good for you, and I'll send out a notice on the ML of the
 time/date
  and we can discuss.
 
  Looking to hearing form you!
 
  PCM (Paul Michali)
 
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Interest in discussing vendor plugins for L3 services?

2014-02-12 Thread Gary Duan
I'm interested in the discussion. UTC-8.

Gary


On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Mandeep Dhami dh...@noironetworks.comwrote:


 I would be interested as well (UTC-8).

 Regards,
 Mandeep



 On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 8:18 AM, Eugene Nikanorov enikano...@mirantis.com
  wrote:

 I'd be interested too.

 Thanks,
 Eugene.


 On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 7:51 PM, Carl Baldwin c...@ecbaldwin.net wrote:

 Paul,

 I'm interesting in joining the discussion.  UTC-7.  Any word on when
 this will take place?

 Carl

 On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Paul Michali p...@cisco.com wrote:
  I'd like to see if there is interest in discussing vendor plugins for
 L3
  services. The goal is to strive for consistency across vendor
  plugins/drivers and across service types (if possible/sensible). Some
 of
  this could/should apply to reference drivers as well. I'm thinking
 about
  these topics (based on questions I've had on VPNaaS - feel free to add
 to
  the list):
 
  How to handle vendor specific validation (e.g. say a vendor has
 restrictions
  or added capabilities compared to the reference drivers for
 attributes).
  Providing client feedback (e.g. should help and validation be
 extended to
  include vendor capabilities or should it be delegated to server
 reporting?)
  Handling and reporting of errors to the user (e.g. how to indicate to
 the
  user that a failure has occurred establishing a IPSec tunnel in device
  driver?)
  Persistence of vendor specific information (e.g. should new tables be
 used
  or should/can existing reference tables be extended?).
  Provider selection for resources (e.g. should we allow --provider
 attribute
  on VPN IPSec policies to have vendor specific policies or should we
 rely on
  checks at connection creation for policy compatibility?)
  Handling of multiple device drivers per vendor (e.g. have service
 driver
  determine which device driver to send RPC requests, or have agent
 determine
  what driver requests should go to - say based on the router type)
 
  If you have an interest, please reply to me and include some
 days/times that
  would be good for you, and I'll send out a notice on the ML of the
 time/date
  and we can discuss.
 
  Looking to hearing form you!
 
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Interest in discussing vendor plugins for L3 services?

2014-02-09 Thread Alan Kavanagh
Hi Paul

Yes I would be interested in this as I believe its an area we have not got 
around to so far in Neutron.

/Alan

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Subject: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Interest in discussing vendor plugins for L3 
services?

I'd like to see if there is interest in discussing vendor plugins for L3 
services. The goal is to strive for consistency across vendor plugins/drivers 
and across service types (if possible/sensible). Some of this could/should 
apply to reference drivers as well. I'm thinking about these topics (based on 
questions I've had on VPNaaS - feel free to add to the list):

* How to handle vendor specific validation (e.g. say a vendor has 
restrictions or added capabilities compared to the reference drivers for 
attributes).
* Providing client feedback (e.g. should help and validation be 
extended to include vendor capabilities or should it be delegated to server 
reporting?)
* Handling and reporting of errors to the user (e.g. how to indicate to 
the user that a failure has occurred establishing a IPSec tunnel in device 
driver?)
* Persistence of vendor specific information (e.g. should new tables be 
used or should/can existing reference tables be extended?).
* Provider selection for resources (e.g. should we allow --provider 
attribute on VPN IPSec policies to have vendor specific policies or should we 
rely on checks at connection creation for policy compatibility?)
* Handling of multiple device drivers per vendor (e.g. have service 
driver determine which device driver to send RPC requests, or have agent 
determine what driver requests should go to - say based on the router type)
If you have an interest, please reply to me and include some days/times that 
would be good for you, and I'll send out a notice on the ML of the time/date 
and we can discuss.

Looking to hearing form you!

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Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Interest in discussing vendor plugins for L3 services?

2014-02-09 Thread Isaku Yamahata
I'm interested in it. My timezone is JST(UTC+9).

thanks,

On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 05:19:35PM -0500,
Paul Michali p...@cisco.com wrote:

 I'd like to see if there is interest in discussing vendor plugins for L3 
 services. The goal is to strive for consistency across vendor plugins/drivers 
 and across service types (if possible/sensible). Some of this could/should 
 apply to reference drivers as well. I'm thinking about these topics (based on 
 questions I've had on VPNaaS - feel free to add to the list):
 
 How to handle vendor specific validation (e.g. say a vendor has restrictions 
 or added capabilities compared to the reference drivers for attributes).
 Providing client feedback (e.g. should help and validation be extended to 
 include vendor capabilities or should it be delegated to server reporting?)
 Handling and reporting of errors to the user (e.g. how to indicate to the 
 user that a failure has occurred establishing a IPSec tunnel in device 
 driver?)
 Persistence of vendor specific information (e.g. should new tables be used or 
 should/can existing reference tables be extended?).
 Provider selection for resources (e.g. should we allow --provider attribute 
 on VPN IPSec policies to have vendor specific policies or should we rely on 
 checks at connection creation for policy compatibility?)
 Handling of multiple device drivers per vendor (e.g. have service driver 
 determine which device driver to send RPC requests, or have agent determine 
 what driver requests should go to - say based on the router type)
 If you have an interest, please reply to me and include some days/times that 
 would be good for you, and I'll send out a notice on the ML of the time/date 
 and we can discuss.
 
 Looking to hearing form you!
 
 PCM (Paul Michali)
 
 MAIL  p...@cisco.com
 IRCpcm_  (irc.freenode.net)
 TW@pmichali
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[openstack-dev] [Neutron] Interest in discussing vendor plugins for L3 services?

2014-02-03 Thread Paul Michali
I'd like to see if there is interest in discussing vendor plugins for L3 
services. The goal is to strive for consistency across vendor plugins/drivers 
and across service types (if possible/sensible). Some of this could/should 
apply to reference drivers as well. I'm thinking about these topics (based on 
questions I've had on VPNaaS - feel free to add to the list):

How to handle vendor specific validation (e.g. say a vendor has restrictions or 
added capabilities compared to the reference drivers for attributes).
Providing client feedback (e.g. should help and validation be extended to 
include vendor capabilities or should it be delegated to server reporting?)
Handling and reporting of errors to the user (e.g. how to indicate to the user 
that a failure has occurred establishing a IPSec tunnel in device driver?)
Persistence of vendor specific information (e.g. should new tables be used or 
should/can existing reference tables be extended?).
Provider selection for resources (e.g. should we allow --provider attribute on 
VPN IPSec policies to have vendor specific policies or should we rely on checks 
at connection creation for policy compatibility?)
Handling of multiple device drivers per vendor (e.g. have service driver 
determine which device driver to send RPC requests, or have agent determine 
what driver requests should go to - say based on the router type)
If you have an interest, please reply to me and include some days/times that 
would be good for you, and I'll send out a notice on the ML of the time/date 
and we can discuss.

Looking to hearing form you!

PCM (Paul Michali)

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Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Interest in discussing vendor plugins for L3 services?

2014-02-03 Thread Hemanth Ravi
Hi,

I would be interested in this discussion. Below are some time slot
suggestions:

Mon: 19:00, 20:00 UTC (11:00, 12:00 PST)
Wed: 20:00, 21:00 UTC (12:00, 13:00 PST)
Thu: 19:00, 20:00, 21:00 UTC (11:00, 12:00, 13:00 PST)

Thanks,
-hemanth


On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Paul Michali p...@cisco.com wrote:

 I'd like to see if there is interest in discussing vendor plugins for L3
 services. The goal is to strive for consistency across vendor
 plugins/drivers and across service types (if possible/sensible). Some of
 this could/should apply to reference drivers as well. I'm thinking about
 these topics (based on questions I've had on VPNaaS - feel free to add to
 the list):


- How to handle vendor specific validation (e.g. say a vendor has
restrictions or added capabilities compared to the reference drivers for
attributes).
- Providing client feedback (e.g. should help and validation be
extended to include vendor capabilities or should it be delegated to server
reporting?)
- Handling and reporting of errors to the user (e.g. how to indicate
to the user that a failure has occurred establishing a IPSec tunnel in
device driver?)
- Persistence of vendor specific information (e.g. should new tables
be used or should/can existing reference tables be extended?).
- Provider selection for resources (e.g. should we allow --provider
attribute on VPN IPSec policies to have vendor specific policies or should
we rely on checks at connection creation for policy compatibility?)
- Handling of multiple device drivers per vendor (e.g. have service
driver determine which device driver to send RPC requests, or have agent
determine what driver requests should go to - say based on the router type)

 If you have an interest, please reply to me and include some days/times
 that would be good for you, and I'll send out a notice on the ML of the
 time/date and we can discuss.

 Looking to hearing form you!

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