Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack] Rescinding the M name decision

2015-07-14 Thread David Medberry
Thanks Lauren. Mi taco es su taco.

On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 12:53 PM, Lauren Sell lau...@openstack.org wrote:

 Good news. After finalizing the trademark checks and giving the community
 time to weigh in, Mitaka will be the name of the M release.

 Thanks again for the great discussion around this topic, and for the
 willingness to be responsive to the concerns of fellow community members.


  On Jul 9, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Tim Bell tim.b...@cern.ch wrote:
 
  Feel free to give input on the Mitaka proposal.
 
  Tim
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jonathan Bryce [mailto:jbr...@jbryce.com]
  Sent: 09 July 2015 20:52
  To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
  Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack] Rescinding the M name decision
 
  On Jul 9, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote:
 
  On 07/09/2015 09:19 AM, Neil Jerram wrote:
  In the hope of forestalling an unnecessary sub-thread...
 
  Mita was #1 in the vote, so has presumably already been ruled out by
  OpenStack's legal review.
 
  That is correct.
 
 
  Hi everyone,
 
  I’ve really loved seeing everyone’s understanding and engagement on this
  thread as we worked through the release cycle naming for ‘M’. This was
 the
  first attempt to follow a new process, so not surprisingly, we found
 some
  improvements in the algorithm for the future. Still it’s awesome to see
 how
  constructive and positive the whole conversation has been.
 
  I wanted to provide a quick update on the status of the Foundation’s
  reviews of the names. First, as Russell mentioned above, after the
 voting
  was completed, we asked our trademark counsel to do checks on the top 3
  names. The first two both had significant trademark issues with existing
  trademark holders in the same space that would have prevented us from
  using the names in most jurisdictions where we have our largest
  communities (US, Europe and Asia). The 3rd choice was relatively low
 risk
  and so we passed word back to Monty who announced it. Once we realized
  there were other issues with Meiji, we asked for an expedited check of
 the
  next 3 names: Mitaka, Musashi, and Meguro. The preliminary check shows
  that Mitaka and Meguro both present an acceptable level of risk, while
  Musashi is higher on the risk scale and would probably create problems
 for
  usage.
 
  At this time, we’re going to do a deeper check on Mitaka, which was the
 #4
  candidate in voting and would be next in line after Meiji. I know
 Itoh-san
  mentioned the Mitaka locale has the potential to be associated with
 certain
  corporations in Japan, but my personal feeling is that may not be
 significant
  enough to override it’s position in the voting and it’s availability
 for use.
 
  I’d encourage anyone with other concerns about Mitaka to post those
  within the next 24 hours so we can appropriately consider and discuss
  them. We should have results on the deeper trademark check by next week
  as well and can hopefully settle on a final name.
 
  Thanks again for all the discussion and participation and especially to
  Monty who’s been on the front lines of helping us navigate this. Feel
 free to
  let me know if you have any other questions,
 
  Jonathan
  210-317-2438
 
 
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack] Rescinding the M name decision

2015-07-14 Thread Lauren Sell
Good news. After finalizing the trademark checks and giving the community time 
to weigh in, Mitaka will be the name of the M release. 

Thanks again for the great discussion around this topic, and for the 
willingness to be responsive to the concerns of fellow community members.


 On Jul 9, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Tim Bell tim.b...@cern.ch wrote:
 
 Feel free to give input on the Mitaka proposal.
 
 Tim
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jonathan Bryce [mailto:jbr...@jbryce.com]
 Sent: 09 July 2015 20:52
 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
 Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack] Rescinding the M name decision
 
 On Jul 9, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote:
 
 On 07/09/2015 09:19 AM, Neil Jerram wrote:
 In the hope of forestalling an unnecessary sub-thread...
 
 Mita was #1 in the vote, so has presumably already been ruled out by
 OpenStack's legal review.
 
 That is correct.
 
 
 Hi everyone,
 
 I’ve really loved seeing everyone’s understanding and engagement on this
 thread as we worked through the release cycle naming for ‘M’. This was the
 first attempt to follow a new process, so not surprisingly, we found some
 improvements in the algorithm for the future. Still it’s awesome to see how
 constructive and positive the whole conversation has been.
 
 I wanted to provide a quick update on the status of the Foundation’s
 reviews of the names. First, as Russell mentioned above, after the voting
 was completed, we asked our trademark counsel to do checks on the top 3
 names. The first two both had significant trademark issues with existing
 trademark holders in the same space that would have prevented us from
 using the names in most jurisdictions where we have our largest
 communities (US, Europe and Asia). The 3rd choice was relatively low risk
 and so we passed word back to Monty who announced it. Once we realized
 there were other issues with Meiji, we asked for an expedited check of the
 next 3 names: Mitaka, Musashi, and Meguro. The preliminary check shows
 that Mitaka and Meguro both present an acceptable level of risk, while
 Musashi is higher on the risk scale and would probably create problems for
 usage.
 
 At this time, we’re going to do a deeper check on Mitaka, which was the #4
 candidate in voting and would be next in line after Meiji. I know Itoh-san
 mentioned the Mitaka locale has the potential to be associated with certain
 corporations in Japan, but my personal feeling is that may not be significant
 enough to override it’s position in the voting and it’s availability for use.
 
 I’d encourage anyone with other concerns about Mitaka to post those
 within the next 24 hours so we can appropriately consider and discuss
 them. We should have results on the deeper trademark check by next week
 as well and can hopefully settle on a final name.
 
 Thanks again for all the discussion and participation and especially to
 Monty who’s been on the front lines of helping us navigate this. Feel free to
 let me know if you have any other questions,
 
 Jonathan
 210-317-2438
 
 
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack] Rescinding the M name decision

2015-07-09 Thread Jonathan Bryce
 On Jul 9, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote:
 
 On 07/09/2015 09:19 AM, Neil Jerram wrote:
 In the hope of forestalling an unnecessary sub-thread...
 
 Mita was #1 in the vote, so has presumably already been ruled out by
 OpenStack's legal review.
 
 That is correct.


Hi everyone,

I’ve really loved seeing everyone’s understanding and engagement on this thread 
as we worked through the release cycle naming for ‘M’. This was the first 
attempt to follow a new process, so not surprisingly, we found some 
improvements in the algorithm for the future. Still it’s awesome to see how 
constructive and positive the whole conversation has been.

I wanted to provide a quick update on the status of the Foundation’s reviews of 
the names. First, as Russell mentioned above, after the voting was completed, 
we asked our trademark counsel to do checks on the top 3 names. The first two 
both had significant trademark issues with existing trademark holders in the 
same space that would have prevented us from using the names in most 
jurisdictions where we have our largest communities (US, Europe and Asia). The 
3rd choice was relatively low risk and so we passed word back to Monty who 
announced it. Once we realized there were other issues with Meiji, we asked for 
an expedited check of the next 3 names: Mitaka, Musashi, and Meguro. The 
preliminary check shows that Mitaka and Meguro both present an acceptable level 
of risk, while Musashi is higher on the risk scale and would probably create 
problems for usage.

At this time, we’re going to do a deeper check on Mitaka, which was the #4 
candidate in voting and would be next in line after Meiji. I know Itoh-san 
mentioned the Mitaka locale has the potential to be associated with certain 
corporations in Japan, but my personal feeling is that may not be significant 
enough to override it’s position in the voting and it’s availability for use.

I’d encourage anyone with other concerns about Mitaka to post those within the 
next 24 hours so we can appropriately consider and discuss them. We should have 
results on the deeper trademark check by next week as well and can hopefully 
settle on a final name.

Thanks again for all the discussion and participation and especially to Monty 
who’s been on the front lines of helping us navigate this. Feel free to let me 
know if you have any other questions,

Jonathan
210-317-2438


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Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack] Rescinding the M name decision

2015-07-09 Thread Tim Bell
Feel free to give input on the Mitaka proposal.

Tim

 -Original Message-
 From: Jonathan Bryce [mailto:jbr...@jbryce.com]
 Sent: 09 July 2015 20:52
 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
 Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack] Rescinding the M name decision
 
  On Jul 9, 2015, at 9:35 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote:
 
  On 07/09/2015 09:19 AM, Neil Jerram wrote:
  In the hope of forestalling an unnecessary sub-thread...
 
  Mita was #1 in the vote, so has presumably already been ruled out by
  OpenStack's legal review.
 
  That is correct.
 
 
 Hi everyone,
 
 I’ve really loved seeing everyone’s understanding and engagement on this
 thread as we worked through the release cycle naming for ‘M’. This was the
 first attempt to follow a new process, so not surprisingly, we found some
 improvements in the algorithm for the future. Still it’s awesome to see how
 constructive and positive the whole conversation has been.
 
 I wanted to provide a quick update on the status of the Foundation’s
 reviews of the names. First, as Russell mentioned above, after the voting
 was completed, we asked our trademark counsel to do checks on the top 3
 names. The first two both had significant trademark issues with existing
 trademark holders in the same space that would have prevented us from
 using the names in most jurisdictions where we have our largest
 communities (US, Europe and Asia). The 3rd choice was relatively low risk
 and so we passed word back to Monty who announced it. Once we realized
 there were other issues with Meiji, we asked for an expedited check of the
 next 3 names: Mitaka, Musashi, and Meguro. The preliminary check shows
 that Mitaka and Meguro both present an acceptable level of risk, while
 Musashi is higher on the risk scale and would probably create problems for
 usage.
 
 At this time, we’re going to do a deeper check on Mitaka, which was the #4
 candidate in voting and would be next in line after Meiji. I know Itoh-san
 mentioned the Mitaka locale has the potential to be associated with certain
 corporations in Japan, but my personal feeling is that may not be significant
 enough to override it’s position in the voting and it’s availability for use.
 
 I’d encourage anyone with other concerns about Mitaka to post those
 within the next 24 hours so we can appropriately consider and discuss
 them. We should have results on the deeper trademark check by next week
 as well and can hopefully settle on a final name.
 
 Thanks again for all the discussion and participation and especially to
 Monty who’s been on the front lines of helping us navigate this. Feel free to
 let me know if you have any other questions,
 
 Jonathan
 210-317-2438
 
 
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