Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2015-01-15 Thread matt
Will do.

On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Anita Kuno ante...@anteaya.info wrote:

 On 01/14/2015 01:06 PM, matt wrote:
  Hey Mike!
 
  Thanks for this info.  Super helpful to me at least.  I am very
 interested
  in hearing more about nova-network to neutron migrations.
 
  -Matt
 
 Hello Matt:

 Please start attending the weekly meetings:
 https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova-nettoNeutronMigration
 follow the logs from it:
 http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_net_to_neutron_migration/
 as well as the logs for the neutron weekly meeting:
 http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/
 and the nova weekly meeting:
 http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/

 After you have had a chance to update yourself, please ask any questions
 either at one of the above meetings or do email me.

 Thank you Matt,
 Anita.

  On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com
 wrote:
 
  Hi, I just wanted to make sure people know that a small group of us
  got together in a hallway at linux.conf.au 2015 to talk about this. It
  wasn't an attempt to exclude anyone, we just all happened to be in the
  same place at the same time.
 
  To that end, we made some notes from the chat, which are at
  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-network-migration-lca2015 .
  Specific points to note are that Angus Lees has volunteered to help
  Oleg with the spec for this, and that we'd very much like to see a
  discussion of this at the Nova midcycle meetup in a couple of weeks.
 
  I'd also like to call out that there's a link to the mailing list
  thread where we discussed CERN's concerns in the etherpad for
  reference as well.
 
  Cheers,
  Michael
 
  On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 3:59 AM, Anita Kuno ante...@anteaya.info
 wrote:
  Rather than waste your time making excuses let me state where we are
 and
  where I would like to get to, also sharing my thoughts about how you
 can
  get involved if you want to see this happen as badly as I have been
 told
  you do.
 
  Where we are:
  * a great deal of foundation work has been accomplished to achieve
  parity with nova-network and neutron to the extent that those involved
  are ready for migration plans to be formulated and be put in place
  * a summit session happened with notes and intentions[0]
  * people took responsibility and promptly got swamped with other
  responsibilities
  * spec deadlines arose and in neutron's case have passed
  * currently a neutron spec [1] is a work in progress (and it needs
  significant work still) and a nova spec is required and doesn't have a
  first draft or a champion
 
  Where I would like to get to:
  * I need people in addition to Oleg Bondarev to be available to
 help
  come up with ideas and words to describe them to create the specs in a
  very short amount of time (Oleg is doing great work and is a fabulous
  person, yay Oleg, he just can't do this alone)
  * specifically I need a contact on the nova side of this complex
  problem, similar to Oleg on the neutron side
  * we need to have a way for people involved with this effort to
 find
  each other, talk to each other and track progress
  * we need to have representation at both nova and neutron weekly
  meetings to communicate status and needs
 
  We are at K-2 and our current status is insufficient to expect this
 work
  will be accomplished by the end of K-3. I will be championing this
 work,
  in whatever state, so at least it doesn't fall off the map. If you
 would
  like to help this effort please get in contact. I will be thinking of
  ways to further this work and will be communicating to those who
  identify as affected by these decisions in the most effective methods
 of
  which I am capable.
 
  Thank you to all who have gotten us as far as well have gotten in this
  effort, it has been a long haul and you have all done great work. Let's
  keep going and finish this.
 
  Thank you,
  Anita.
 
  [0] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-nova-network-to-neutron
  [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142456/
 
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2015-01-15 Thread Anita Kuno
On 01/14/2015 01:06 PM, matt wrote:
 Hey Mike!
 
 Thanks for this info.  Super helpful to me at least.  I am very interested
 in hearing more about nova-network to neutron migrations.
 
 -Matt
 
Hello Matt:

Please start attending the weekly meetings:
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova-nettoNeutronMigration
follow the logs from it:
http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_net_to_neutron_migration/
as well as the logs for the neutron weekly meeting:
http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/
and the nova weekly meeting:
http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/

After you have had a chance to update yourself, please ask any questions
either at one of the above meetings or do email me.

Thank you Matt,
Anita.

 On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote:
 
 Hi, I just wanted to make sure people know that a small group of us
 got together in a hallway at linux.conf.au 2015 to talk about this. It
 wasn't an attempt to exclude anyone, we just all happened to be in the
 same place at the same time.

 To that end, we made some notes from the chat, which are at
 https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-network-migration-lca2015 .
 Specific points to note are that Angus Lees has volunteered to help
 Oleg with the spec for this, and that we'd very much like to see a
 discussion of this at the Nova midcycle meetup in a couple of weeks.

 I'd also like to call out that there's a link to the mailing list
 thread where we discussed CERN's concerns in the etherpad for
 reference as well.

 Cheers,
 Michael

 On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 3:59 AM, Anita Kuno ante...@anteaya.info wrote:
 Rather than waste your time making excuses let me state where we are and
 where I would like to get to, also sharing my thoughts about how you can
 get involved if you want to see this happen as badly as I have been told
 you do.

 Where we are:
 * a great deal of foundation work has been accomplished to achieve
 parity with nova-network and neutron to the extent that those involved
 are ready for migration plans to be formulated and be put in place
 * a summit session happened with notes and intentions[0]
 * people took responsibility and promptly got swamped with other
 responsibilities
 * spec deadlines arose and in neutron's case have passed
 * currently a neutron spec [1] is a work in progress (and it needs
 significant work still) and a nova spec is required and doesn't have a
 first draft or a champion

 Where I would like to get to:
 * I need people in addition to Oleg Bondarev to be available to help
 come up with ideas and words to describe them to create the specs in a
 very short amount of time (Oleg is doing great work and is a fabulous
 person, yay Oleg, he just can't do this alone)
 * specifically I need a contact on the nova side of this complex
 problem, similar to Oleg on the neutron side
 * we need to have a way for people involved with this effort to find
 each other, talk to each other and track progress
 * we need to have representation at both nova and neutron weekly
 meetings to communicate status and needs

 We are at K-2 and our current status is insufficient to expect this work
 will be accomplished by the end of K-3. I will be championing this work,
 in whatever state, so at least it doesn't fall off the map. If you would
 like to help this effort please get in contact. I will be thinking of
 ways to further this work and will be communicating to those who
 identify as affected by these decisions in the most effective methods of
 which I am capable.

 Thank you to all who have gotten us as far as well have gotten in this
 effort, it has been a long haul and you have all done great work. Let's
 keep going and finish this.

 Thank you,
 Anita.

 [0] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-nova-network-to-neutron
 [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142456/

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Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2015-01-15 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Kris G. Lindgren klindg...@godaddy.com
wrote:

   Is the fact that neutron security groups don’t provide the same level
 of isolation as nova security groups on your guys radar?

  Specifically talking about:
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1274034

 That bug is actually tracked by a BP as well which is approved and marked
as Kilo-2 [1].



  I am sure their are a few other thigns that nova is doing that neutron
 is currently not.


That may be true. The plan which was agreed to and executed on by the TC
during Juno is here [2]. If there are other features people want from
nova-network in neutron, I encourage them to file bugs or specs to track
them.

[1] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/arp-spoof-patch-ebtables
[2]
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TechnicalCommittee/Neutron_Gap_Coverage



 Kris Lindgren
 Senior Linux Systems Engineer
 GoDaddy, LLC.

   From: matt m...@nycresistor.com
 Date: Thursday, January 15, 2015 at 1:10 PM
 To: Anita Kuno ante...@anteaya.info
 Cc: Angus Lees gusl...@gmail.com, OpenStack Development Mailing List 
 openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org, 
 openstack-operat...@lists.openstack.org 
 openstack-operat...@lists.openstack.org
 Subject: Re: [Openstack-operators] The state of nova-network to neutron
 migration

   Will do.

 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Anita Kuno ante...@anteaya.info wrote:

 On 01/14/2015 01:06 PM, matt wrote:
  Hey Mike!
 
  Thanks for this info.  Super helpful to me at least.  I am very
 interested
  in hearing more about nova-network to neutron migrations.
 
  -Matt
 
 Hello Matt:

 Please start attending the weekly meetings:
 https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova-nettoNeutronMigration
 follow the logs from it:
 http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_net_to_neutron_migration/
 as well as the logs for the neutron weekly meeting:
 http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/
 and the nova weekly meeting:
 http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/

 After you have had a chance to update yourself, please ask any questions
 either at one of the above meetings or do email me.

 Thank you Matt,
 Anita.

  On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com
 wrote:
 
  Hi, I just wanted to make sure people know that a small group of us
  got together in a hallway at linux.conf.au 2015 to talk about this. It
  wasn't an attempt to exclude anyone, we just all happened to be in the
  same place at the same time.
 
  To that end, we made some notes from the chat, which are at
  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-network-migration-lca2015 .
  Specific points to note are that Angus Lees has volunteered to help
  Oleg with the spec for this, and that we'd very much like to see a
  discussion of this at the Nova midcycle meetup in a couple of weeks.
 
  I'd also like to call out that there's a link to the mailing list
  thread where we discussed CERN's concerns in the etherpad for
  reference as well.
 
  Cheers,
  Michael
 
  On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 3:59 AM, Anita Kuno ante...@anteaya.info
 wrote:
  Rather than waste your time making excuses let me state where we are
 and
  where I would like to get to, also sharing my thoughts about how you
 can
  get involved if you want to see this happen as badly as I have been
 told
  you do.
 
  Where we are:
  * a great deal of foundation work has been accomplished to achieve
  parity with nova-network and neutron to the extent that those involved
  are ready for migration plans to be formulated and be put in place
  * a summit session happened with notes and intentions[0]
  * people took responsibility and promptly got swamped with other
  responsibilities
  * spec deadlines arose and in neutron's case have passed
  * currently a neutron spec [1] is a work in progress (and it needs
  significant work still) and a nova spec is required and doesn't have a
  first draft or a champion
 
  Where I would like to get to:
  * I need people in addition to Oleg Bondarev to be available to
 help
  come up with ideas and words to describe them to create the specs in a
  very short amount of time (Oleg is doing great work and is a fabulous
  person, yay Oleg, he just can't do this alone)
  * specifically I need a contact on the nova side of this complex
  problem, similar to Oleg on the neutron side
  * we need to have a way for people involved with this effort to
 find
  each other, talk to each other and track progress
  * we need to have representation at both nova and neutron weekly
  meetings to communicate status and needs
 
  We are at K-2 and our current status is insufficient to expect this
 work
  will be accomplished by the end of K-3. I will be championing this
 work,
  in whatever state, so at least it doesn't fall off the map. If you
 would
  like to help this effort please get in contact. I will be thinking of
  ways to further this work and 

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2015-01-15 Thread Anita Kuno
On 01/16/2015 09:19 AM, Kris G. Lindgren wrote:
 Is the fact that neutron security groups don’t provide the same level of 
 isolation as nova security groups on your guys radar?
 
 Specifically talking about:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1274034
 
 I am sure their are a few other thigns that nova is doing that neutron is 
 currently not.
 
 
 Kris Lindgren
 Senior Linux Systems Engineer
 GoDaddy, LLC.
Can I convince you to attend the weekly nova-net to neutron migration
meeting and ensure that it is?

Thanks Kris,
Anita.
 
 From: matt m...@nycresistor.commailto:m...@nycresistor.com
 Date: Thursday, January 15, 2015 at 1:10 PM
 To: Anita Kuno ante...@anteaya.infomailto:ante...@anteaya.info
 Cc: Angus Lees gusl...@gmail.commailto:gusl...@gmail.com, OpenStack 
 Development Mailing List 
 openstack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org,
  
 openstack-operat...@lists.openstack.orgmailto:openstack-operat...@lists.openstack.org
  
 openstack-operat...@lists.openstack.orgmailto:openstack-operat...@lists.openstack.org
 Subject: Re: [Openstack-operators] The state of nova-network to neutron 
 migration
 
 Will do.
 
 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Anita Kuno 
 ante...@anteaya.infomailto:ante...@anteaya.info wrote:
 On 01/14/2015 01:06 PM, matt wrote:
 Hey Mike!

 Thanks for this info.  Super helpful to me at least.  I am very interested
 in hearing more about nova-network to neutron migrations.

 -Matt

 Hello Matt:
 
 Please start attending the weekly meetings:
 https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova-nettoNeutronMigration
 follow the logs from it:
 http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_net_to_neutron_migration/
 as well as the logs for the neutron weekly meeting:
 http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/
 and the nova weekly meeting:
 http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/
 
 After you have had a chance to update yourself, please ask any questions
 either at one of the above meetings or do email me.
 
 Thank you Matt,
 Anita.
 
 On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Michael Still 
 mi...@stillhq.commailto:mi...@stillhq.com wrote:

 Hi, I just wanted to make sure people know that a small group of us
 got together in a hallway at linux.conf.auhttp://linux.conf.au 2015 to 
 talk about this. It
 wasn't an attempt to exclude anyone, we just all happened to be in the
 same place at the same time.

 To that end, we made some notes from the chat, which are at
 https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-network-migration-lca2015 .
 Specific points to note are that Angus Lees has volunteered to help
 Oleg with the spec for this, and that we'd very much like to see a
 discussion of this at the Nova midcycle meetup in a couple of weeks.

 I'd also like to call out that there's a link to the mailing list
 thread where we discussed CERN's concerns in the etherpad for
 reference as well.

 Cheers,
 Michael

 On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 3:59 AM, Anita Kuno 
 ante...@anteaya.infomailto:ante...@anteaya.info wrote:
 Rather than waste your time making excuses let me state where we are and
 where I would like to get to, also sharing my thoughts about how you can
 get involved if you want to see this happen as badly as I have been told
 you do.

 Where we are:
 * a great deal of foundation work has been accomplished to achieve
 parity with nova-network and neutron to the extent that those involved
 are ready for migration plans to be formulated and be put in place
 * a summit session happened with notes and intentions[0]
 * people took responsibility and promptly got swamped with other
 responsibilities
 * spec deadlines arose and in neutron's case have passed
 * currently a neutron spec [1] is a work in progress (and it needs
 significant work still) and a nova spec is required and doesn't have a
 first draft or a champion

 Where I would like to get to:
 * I need people in addition to Oleg Bondarev to be available to help
 come up with ideas and words to describe them to create the specs in a
 very short amount of time (Oleg is doing great work and is a fabulous
 person, yay Oleg, he just can't do this alone)
 * specifically I need a contact on the nova side of this complex
 problem, similar to Oleg on the neutron side
 * we need to have a way for people involved with this effort to find
 each other, talk to each other and track progress
 * we need to have representation at both nova and neutron weekly
 meetings to communicate status and needs

 We are at K-2 and our current status is insufficient to expect this work
 will be accomplished by the end of K-3. I will be championing this work,
 in whatever state, so at least it doesn't fall off the map. If you would
 like to help this effort please get in contact. I will be thinking of
 ways to further this work and will be communicating to those who
 identify as affected by these decisions in the most effective methods of
 which I am capable.

 Thank 

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2015-01-13 Thread Michael Still
Hi, I just wanted to make sure people know that a small group of us
got together in a hallway at linux.conf.au 2015 to talk about this. It
wasn't an attempt to exclude anyone, we just all happened to be in the
same place at the same time.

To that end, we made some notes from the chat, which are at
https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-network-migration-lca2015 .
Specific points to note are that Angus Lees has volunteered to help
Oleg with the spec for this, and that we'd very much like to see a
discussion of this at the Nova midcycle meetup in a couple of weeks.

I'd also like to call out that there's a link to the mailing list
thread where we discussed CERN's concerns in the etherpad for
reference as well.

Cheers,
Michael

On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 3:59 AM, Anita Kuno ante...@anteaya.info wrote:
 Rather than waste your time making excuses let me state where we are and
 where I would like to get to, also sharing my thoughts about how you can
 get involved if you want to see this happen as badly as I have been told
 you do.

 Where we are:
 * a great deal of foundation work has been accomplished to achieve
 parity with nova-network and neutron to the extent that those involved
 are ready for migration plans to be formulated and be put in place
 * a summit session happened with notes and intentions[0]
 * people took responsibility and promptly got swamped with other
 responsibilities
 * spec deadlines arose and in neutron's case have passed
 * currently a neutron spec [1] is a work in progress (and it needs
 significant work still) and a nova spec is required and doesn't have a
 first draft or a champion

 Where I would like to get to:
 * I need people in addition to Oleg Bondarev to be available to help
 come up with ideas and words to describe them to create the specs in a
 very short amount of time (Oleg is doing great work and is a fabulous
 person, yay Oleg, he just can't do this alone)
 * specifically I need a contact on the nova side of this complex
 problem, similar to Oleg on the neutron side
 * we need to have a way for people involved with this effort to find
 each other, talk to each other and track progress
 * we need to have representation at both nova and neutron weekly
 meetings to communicate status and needs

 We are at K-2 and our current status is insufficient to expect this work
 will be accomplished by the end of K-3. I will be championing this work,
 in whatever state, so at least it doesn't fall off the map. If you would
 like to help this effort please get in contact. I will be thinking of
 ways to further this work and will be communicating to those who
 identify as affected by these decisions in the most effective methods of
 which I am capable.

 Thank you to all who have gotten us as far as well have gotten in this
 effort, it has been a long haul and you have all done great work. Let's
 keep going and finish this.

 Thank you,
 Anita.

 [0] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-nova-network-to-neutron
 [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142456/

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Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2015-01-13 Thread matt
Hey Mike!

Thanks for this info.  Super helpful to me at least.  I am very interested
in hearing more about nova-network to neutron migrations.

-Matt

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote:

 Hi, I just wanted to make sure people know that a small group of us
 got together in a hallway at linux.conf.au 2015 to talk about this. It
 wasn't an attempt to exclude anyone, we just all happened to be in the
 same place at the same time.

 To that end, we made some notes from the chat, which are at
 https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-network-migration-lca2015 .
 Specific points to note are that Angus Lees has volunteered to help
 Oleg with the spec for this, and that we'd very much like to see a
 discussion of this at the Nova midcycle meetup in a couple of weeks.

 I'd also like to call out that there's a link to the mailing list
 thread where we discussed CERN's concerns in the etherpad for
 reference as well.

 Cheers,
 Michael

 On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 3:59 AM, Anita Kuno ante...@anteaya.info wrote:
  Rather than waste your time making excuses let me state where we are and
  where I would like to get to, also sharing my thoughts about how you can
  get involved if you want to see this happen as badly as I have been told
  you do.
 
  Where we are:
  * a great deal of foundation work has been accomplished to achieve
  parity with nova-network and neutron to the extent that those involved
  are ready for migration plans to be formulated and be put in place
  * a summit session happened with notes and intentions[0]
  * people took responsibility and promptly got swamped with other
  responsibilities
  * spec deadlines arose and in neutron's case have passed
  * currently a neutron spec [1] is a work in progress (and it needs
  significant work still) and a nova spec is required and doesn't have a
  first draft or a champion
 
  Where I would like to get to:
  * I need people in addition to Oleg Bondarev to be available to help
  come up with ideas and words to describe them to create the specs in a
  very short amount of time (Oleg is doing great work and is a fabulous
  person, yay Oleg, he just can't do this alone)
  * specifically I need a contact on the nova side of this complex
  problem, similar to Oleg on the neutron side
  * we need to have a way for people involved with this effort to find
  each other, talk to each other and track progress
  * we need to have representation at both nova and neutron weekly
  meetings to communicate status and needs
 
  We are at K-2 and our current status is insufficient to expect this work
  will be accomplished by the end of K-3. I will be championing this work,
  in whatever state, so at least it doesn't fall off the map. If you would
  like to help this effort please get in contact. I will be thinking of
  ways to further this work and will be communicating to those who
  identify as affected by these decisions in the most effective methods of
  which I am capable.
 
  Thank you to all who have gotten us as far as well have gotten in this
  effort, it has been a long haul and you have all done great work. Let's
  keep going and finish this.
 
  Thank you,
  Anita.
 
  [0] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-nova-network-to-neutron
  [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142456/
 
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2015-01-08 Thread Jakub Libosvar
On 12/24/2014 10:07 AM, Oleg Bondarev wrote:
 
 
 On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 10:08 PM, Anita Kuno ante...@anteaya.info
 mailto:ante...@anteaya.info wrote:
 
 On 12/22/2014 01:32 PM, Joe Gordon wrote:
  On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Kyle Mestery mest...@mestery.com
 mailto:mest...@mestery.com wrote:
 
  On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Anita Kuno
 ante...@anteaya.info mailto:ante...@anteaya.info wrote:
 
  Rather than waste your time making excuses let me state where we
 are and
  where I would like to get to, also sharing my thoughts about how
 you can
  get involved if you want to see this happen as badly as I have
 been told
  you do.
 
  Where we are:
  * a great deal of foundation work has been accomplished to
 achieve
  parity with nova-network and neutron to the extent that those
 involved
  are ready for migration plans to be formulated and be put in place
  * a summit session happened with notes and intentions[0]
  * people took responsibility and promptly got swamped with other
  responsibilities
  * spec deadlines arose and in neutron's case have passed
  * currently a neutron spec [1] is a work in progress (and it
 needs
  significant work still) and a nova spec is required and doesn't
 have a
  first draft or a champion
 
  Where I would like to get to:
  * I need people in addition to Oleg Bondarev to be available
 to help
  come up with ideas and words to describe them to create the
 specs in a
  very short amount of time (Oleg is doing great work and is a
 fabulous
  person, yay Oleg, he just can't do this alone)
  * specifically I need a contact on the nova side of this complex
  problem, similar to Oleg on the neutron side
  * we need to have a way for people involved with this effort
 to find
  each other, talk to each other and track progress
  * we need to have representation at both nova and neutron weekly
  meetings to communicate status and needs
 
  We are at K-2 and our current status is insufficient to expect
 this work
  will be accomplished by the end of K-3. I will be championing
 this work,
  in whatever state, so at least it doesn't fall off the map. If
 you would
  like to help this effort please get in contact. I will be
 thinking of
  ways to further this work and will be communicating to those who
  identify as affected by these decisions in the most effective
 methods of
  which I am capable.
 
  Thank you to all who have gotten us as far as well have gotten
 in this
  effort, it has been a long haul and you have all done great
 work. Let's
  keep going and finish this.
 
  Thank you,
  Anita.
 
  Thank you for volunteering to drive this effort Anita, I am very
 happy
  about this. I support you 100%.
 
  I'd like to point out that we really need a point of contact on
 the nova
  side, similar to Oleg on the Neutron side. IMHO, this is step 1
 here to
  continue moving this forward.
 
 
  At the summit the nova team marked the nova-network to neutron
 migration as
  a priority [0], so we are collectively interested in seeing this
 happen and
  want to help in any way possible.   With regard to a nova point of
 contact,
  anyone in nova-specs-core should work, that way we can cover more time
  zones.
 
  From what I can gather the first step is to finish fleshing out
 the first
  spec [1], and it sounds like it would be good to get a few nova-cores
  reviewing it as well.
 
 
 
 
  [0]
 
 
 http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/priorities/kilo-priorities.html
  [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142456/
 
 
 Wonderful, thank you for the support Joe.
 
 It appears that we need to have a regular weekly meeting to track
 progress in an archived manner.
 
 I know there was one meeting November but I don't know what it was
 called so so far I can't find the logs for that.
 
 
 It wasn't official, we just gathered together on #novamigration.
 Attaching the log here.
 
 
 So if those affected by this issue can identify what time (UTC please,
 don't tell me what time zone you are in it is too hard to guess what UTC
 time you are available) and day of the week you are available for a
 meeting I'll create one and we can start talking to each other.
 
 I need to avoid Monday 1500 and 2100 UTC, Tuesday 0800 UTC, 1400 UTC and
 1900 - 2200 UTC, Wednesdays 1500 - 1700 UTC, Thursdays 1400 and 2100
 UTC.
 
 
 I'm available each weekday 0700-1600 UTC, 1700-1800 UTC is also acceptable.
 
 Thanks,
 Oleg

Hi all,
I'm quite flexible, any business day 0800-2300 UTC with several
exceptions is 

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2015-01-08 Thread Anita Kuno
On 01/08/2015 08:30 AM, Jakub Libosvar wrote:
 On 12/24/2014 10:07 AM, Oleg Bondarev wrote:


 On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 10:08 PM, Anita Kuno ante...@anteaya.info
 mailto:ante...@anteaya.info wrote:

 On 12/22/2014 01:32 PM, Joe Gordon wrote:
  On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Kyle Mestery mest...@mestery.com
 mailto:mest...@mestery.com wrote:
 
  On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Anita Kuno
 ante...@anteaya.info mailto:ante...@anteaya.info wrote:
 
  Rather than waste your time making excuses let me state where we
 are and
  where I would like to get to, also sharing my thoughts about how
 you can
  get involved if you want to see this happen as badly as I have
 been told
  you do.
 
  Where we are:
  * a great deal of foundation work has been accomplished to
 achieve
  parity with nova-network and neutron to the extent that those
 involved
  are ready for migration plans to be formulated and be put in place
  * a summit session happened with notes and intentions[0]
  * people took responsibility and promptly got swamped with other
  responsibilities
  * spec deadlines arose and in neutron's case have passed
  * currently a neutron spec [1] is a work in progress (and it
 needs
  significant work still) and a nova spec is required and doesn't
 have a
  first draft or a champion
 
  Where I would like to get to:
  * I need people in addition to Oleg Bondarev to be available
 to help
  come up with ideas and words to describe them to create the
 specs in a
  very short amount of time (Oleg is doing great work and is a
 fabulous
  person, yay Oleg, he just can't do this alone)
  * specifically I need a contact on the nova side of this complex
  problem, similar to Oleg on the neutron side
  * we need to have a way for people involved with this effort
 to find
  each other, talk to each other and track progress
  * we need to have representation at both nova and neutron weekly
  meetings to communicate status and needs
 
  We are at K-2 and our current status is insufficient to expect
 this work
  will be accomplished by the end of K-3. I will be championing
 this work,
  in whatever state, so at least it doesn't fall off the map. If
 you would
  like to help this effort please get in contact. I will be
 thinking of
  ways to further this work and will be communicating to those who
  identify as affected by these decisions in the most effective
 methods of
  which I am capable.
 
  Thank you to all who have gotten us as far as well have gotten
 in this
  effort, it has been a long haul and you have all done great
 work. Let's
  keep going and finish this.
 
  Thank you,
  Anita.
 
  Thank you for volunteering to drive this effort Anita, I am very
 happy
  about this. I support you 100%.
 
  I'd like to point out that we really need a point of contact on
 the nova
  side, similar to Oleg on the Neutron side. IMHO, this is step 1
 here to
  continue moving this forward.
 
 
  At the summit the nova team marked the nova-network to neutron
 migration as
  a priority [0], so we are collectively interested in seeing this
 happen and
  want to help in any way possible.   With regard to a nova point of
 contact,
  anyone in nova-specs-core should work, that way we can cover more time
  zones.
 
  From what I can gather the first step is to finish fleshing out
 the first
  spec [1], and it sounds like it would be good to get a few nova-cores
  reviewing it as well.
 
 
 
 
  [0]
 
 
 http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/priorities/kilo-priorities.html
  [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142456/
 
 
 Wonderful, thank you for the support Joe.

 It appears that we need to have a regular weekly meeting to track
 progress in an archived manner.

 I know there was one meeting November but I don't know what it was
 called so so far I can't find the logs for that.


 It wasn't official, we just gathered together on #novamigration.
 Attaching the log here.


 So if those affected by this issue can identify what time (UTC please,
 don't tell me what time zone you are in it is too hard to guess what UTC
 time you are available) and day of the week you are available for a
 meeting I'll create one and we can start talking to each other.

 I need to avoid Monday 1500 and 2100 UTC, Tuesday 0800 UTC, 1400 UTC and
 1900 - 2200 UTC, Wednesdays 1500 - 1700 UTC, Thursdays 1400 and 2100
 UTC.


 I'm available each weekday 0700-1600 UTC, 1700-1800 UTC is also acceptable.

 Thanks,
 Oleg
 
 Hi all,
 I'm quite flexible, any business day 

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2014-12-30 Thread Oleg Bondarev
On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 12:56 AM, Anita Kuno ante...@anteaya.info wrote:

 On 12/24/2014 04:07 AM, Oleg Bondarev wrote:
  On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 10:08 PM, Anita Kuno ante...@anteaya.info
 wrote:
 
  On 12/22/2014 01:32 PM, Joe Gordon wrote:
  On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Kyle Mestery mest...@mestery.com
  wrote:
 
  On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Anita Kuno ante...@anteaya.info
  wrote:
 
  Rather than waste your time making excuses let me state where we are
  and
  where I would like to get to, also sharing my thoughts about how you
  can
  get involved if you want to see this happen as badly as I have been
  told
  you do.
 
  Where we are:
  * a great deal of foundation work has been accomplished to
 achieve
  parity with nova-network and neutron to the extent that those
 involved
  are ready for migration plans to be formulated and be put in place
  * a summit session happened with notes and intentions[0]
  * people took responsibility and promptly got swamped with other
  responsibilities
  * spec deadlines arose and in neutron's case have passed
  * currently a neutron spec [1] is a work in progress (and it
 needs
  significant work still) and a nova spec is required and doesn't have
 a
  first draft or a champion
 
  Where I would like to get to:
  * I need people in addition to Oleg Bondarev to be available to
  help
  come up with ideas and words to describe them to create the specs in
 a
  very short amount of time (Oleg is doing great work and is a fabulous
  person, yay Oleg, he just can't do this alone)
  * specifically I need a contact on the nova side of this complex
  problem, similar to Oleg on the neutron side
  * we need to have a way for people involved with this effort to
  find
  each other, talk to each other and track progress
  * we need to have representation at both nova and neutron weekly
  meetings to communicate status and needs
 
  We are at K-2 and our current status is insufficient to expect this
  work
  will be accomplished by the end of K-3. I will be championing this
  work,
  in whatever state, so at least it doesn't fall off the map. If you
  would
  like to help this effort please get in contact. I will be thinking of
  ways to further this work and will be communicating to those who
  identify as affected by these decisions in the most effective methods
  of
  which I am capable.
 
  Thank you to all who have gotten us as far as well have gotten in
 this
  effort, it has been a long haul and you have all done great work.
 Let's
  keep going and finish this.
 
  Thank you,
  Anita.
 
  Thank you for volunteering to drive this effort Anita, I am very
 happy
  about this. I support you 100%.
 
  I'd like to point out that we really need a point of contact on the
 nova
  side, similar to Oleg on the Neutron side. IMHO, this is step 1 here
 to
  continue moving this forward.
 
 
  At the summit the nova team marked the nova-network to neutron
 migration
  as
  a priority [0], so we are collectively interested in seeing this happen
  and
  want to help in any way possible.   With regard to a nova point of
  contact,
  anyone in nova-specs-core should work, that way we can cover more time
  zones.
 
  From what I can gather the first step is to finish fleshing out the
 first
  spec [1], and it sounds like it would be good to get a few nova-cores
  reviewing it as well.
 
 
 
 
  [0]
 
 
 http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/priorities/kilo-priorities.html
  [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142456/
 
 
  Wonderful, thank you for the support Joe.
 
  It appears that we need to have a regular weekly meeting to track
  progress in an archived manner.
 
  I know there was one meeting November but I don't know what it was
  called so so far I can't find the logs for that.
 
 
  It wasn't official, we just gathered together on #novamigration.
 Attaching
  the log here.
 
 Ah, that would explain why I couldn't find the log. Thanks for the
 attachment.
 
  So if those affected by this issue can identify what time (UTC please,
  don't tell me what time zone you are in it is too hard to guess what UTC
  time you are available) and day of the week you are available for a
  meeting I'll create one and we can start talking to each other.
 
  I need to avoid Monday 1500 and 2100 UTC, Tuesday 0800 UTC, 1400 UTC and
  1900 - 2200 UTC, Wednesdays 1500 - 1700 UTC, Thursdays 1400 and 2100
 UTC.
 
 
  I'm available each weekday 0700-1600 UTC, 1700-1800 UTC is also
 acceptable.
 
  Thanks,
  Oleg
 Wonderful, thank you Oleg. We will aim for a meeting time in this range.
 I also understand holidays in Russia start on January 1 and go until the
 11th or the 12th, I'm guessing this includes you.


Correct. However I'll be available since January 5. Thanks Anita.

Thanks,
Oleg


 Thanks,
 Anita.
 
 
 
  Thanks,
  Anita.
 
 
  Thanks,
  Kyle
 
 
  [0]
 https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-nova-network-to-neutron
  [1] 

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2014-12-29 Thread Anita Kuno
On 12/24/2014 04:07 AM, Oleg Bondarev wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 10:08 PM, Anita Kuno ante...@anteaya.info wrote:

 On 12/22/2014 01:32 PM, Joe Gordon wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Kyle Mestery mest...@mestery.com
 wrote:

 On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Anita Kuno ante...@anteaya.info
 wrote:

 Rather than waste your time making excuses let me state where we are
 and
 where I would like to get to, also sharing my thoughts about how you
 can
 get involved if you want to see this happen as badly as I have been
 told
 you do.

 Where we are:
 * a great deal of foundation work has been accomplished to achieve
 parity with nova-network and neutron to the extent that those involved
 are ready for migration plans to be formulated and be put in place
 * a summit session happened with notes and intentions[0]
 * people took responsibility and promptly got swamped with other
 responsibilities
 * spec deadlines arose and in neutron's case have passed
 * currently a neutron spec [1] is a work in progress (and it needs
 significant work still) and a nova spec is required and doesn't have a
 first draft or a champion

 Where I would like to get to:
 * I need people in addition to Oleg Bondarev to be available to
 help
 come up with ideas and words to describe them to create the specs in a
 very short amount of time (Oleg is doing great work and is a fabulous
 person, yay Oleg, he just can't do this alone)
 * specifically I need a contact on the nova side of this complex
 problem, similar to Oleg on the neutron side
 * we need to have a way for people involved with this effort to
 find
 each other, talk to each other and track progress
 * we need to have representation at both nova and neutron weekly
 meetings to communicate status and needs

 We are at K-2 and our current status is insufficient to expect this
 work
 will be accomplished by the end of K-3. I will be championing this
 work,
 in whatever state, so at least it doesn't fall off the map. If you
 would
 like to help this effort please get in contact. I will be thinking of
 ways to further this work and will be communicating to those who
 identify as affected by these decisions in the most effective methods
 of
 which I am capable.

 Thank you to all who have gotten us as far as well have gotten in this
 effort, it has been a long haul and you have all done great work. Let's
 keep going and finish this.

 Thank you,
 Anita.

 Thank you for volunteering to drive this effort Anita, I am very happy
 about this. I support you 100%.

 I'd like to point out that we really need a point of contact on the nova
 side, similar to Oleg on the Neutron side. IMHO, this is step 1 here to
 continue moving this forward.


 At the summit the nova team marked the nova-network to neutron migration
 as
 a priority [0], so we are collectively interested in seeing this happen
 and
 want to help in any way possible.   With regard to a nova point of
 contact,
 anyone in nova-specs-core should work, that way we can cover more time
 zones.

 From what I can gather the first step is to finish fleshing out the first
 spec [1], and it sounds like it would be good to get a few nova-cores
 reviewing it as well.




 [0]

 http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/priorities/kilo-priorities.html
 [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142456/


 Wonderful, thank you for the support Joe.

 It appears that we need to have a regular weekly meeting to track
 progress in an archived manner.

 I know there was one meeting November but I don't know what it was
 called so so far I can't find the logs for that.

 
 It wasn't official, we just gathered together on #novamigration. Attaching
 the log here.
 
Ah, that would explain why I couldn't find the log. Thanks for the
attachment.
 
 So if those affected by this issue can identify what time (UTC please,
 don't tell me what time zone you are in it is too hard to guess what UTC
 time you are available) and day of the week you are available for a
 meeting I'll create one and we can start talking to each other.

 I need to avoid Monday 1500 and 2100 UTC, Tuesday 0800 UTC, 1400 UTC and
 1900 - 2200 UTC, Wednesdays 1500 - 1700 UTC, Thursdays 1400 and 2100 UTC.

 
 I'm available each weekday 0700-1600 UTC, 1700-1800 UTC is also acceptable.
 
 Thanks,
 Oleg
Wonderful, thank you Oleg. We will aim for a meeting time in this range.
I also understand holidays in Russia start on January 1 and go until the
11th or the 12th, I'm guessing this includes you.

Thanks,
Anita.
 
 

 Thanks,
 Anita.


 Thanks,
 Kyle


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Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2014-12-24 Thread Oleg Bondarev
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 10:08 PM, Anita Kuno ante...@anteaya.info wrote:

 On 12/22/2014 01:32 PM, Joe Gordon wrote:
  On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Kyle Mestery mest...@mestery.com
 wrote:
 
  On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Anita Kuno ante...@anteaya.info
 wrote:
 
  Rather than waste your time making excuses let me state where we are
 and
  where I would like to get to, also sharing my thoughts about how you
 can
  get involved if you want to see this happen as badly as I have been
 told
  you do.
 
  Where we are:
  * a great deal of foundation work has been accomplished to achieve
  parity with nova-network and neutron to the extent that those involved
  are ready for migration plans to be formulated and be put in place
  * a summit session happened with notes and intentions[0]
  * people took responsibility and promptly got swamped with other
  responsibilities
  * spec deadlines arose and in neutron's case have passed
  * currently a neutron spec [1] is a work in progress (and it needs
  significant work still) and a nova spec is required and doesn't have a
  first draft or a champion
 
  Where I would like to get to:
  * I need people in addition to Oleg Bondarev to be available to
 help
  come up with ideas and words to describe them to create the specs in a
  very short amount of time (Oleg is doing great work and is a fabulous
  person, yay Oleg, he just can't do this alone)
  * specifically I need a contact on the nova side of this complex
  problem, similar to Oleg on the neutron side
  * we need to have a way for people involved with this effort to
 find
  each other, talk to each other and track progress
  * we need to have representation at both nova and neutron weekly
  meetings to communicate status and needs
 
  We are at K-2 and our current status is insufficient to expect this
 work
  will be accomplished by the end of K-3. I will be championing this
 work,
  in whatever state, so at least it doesn't fall off the map. If you
 would
  like to help this effort please get in contact. I will be thinking of
  ways to further this work and will be communicating to those who
  identify as affected by these decisions in the most effective methods
 of
  which I am capable.
 
  Thank you to all who have gotten us as far as well have gotten in this
  effort, it has been a long haul and you have all done great work. Let's
  keep going and finish this.
 
  Thank you,
  Anita.
 
  Thank you for volunteering to drive this effort Anita, I am very happy
  about this. I support you 100%.
 
  I'd like to point out that we really need a point of contact on the nova
  side, similar to Oleg on the Neutron side. IMHO, this is step 1 here to
  continue moving this forward.
 
 
  At the summit the nova team marked the nova-network to neutron migration
 as
  a priority [0], so we are collectively interested in seeing this happen
 and
  want to help in any way possible.   With regard to a nova point of
 contact,
  anyone in nova-specs-core should work, that way we can cover more time
  zones.
 
  From what I can gather the first step is to finish fleshing out the first
  spec [1], and it sounds like it would be good to get a few nova-cores
  reviewing it as well.
 
 
 
 
  [0]
 
 http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/priorities/kilo-priorities.html
  [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142456/
 
 
 Wonderful, thank you for the support Joe.

 It appears that we need to have a regular weekly meeting to track
 progress in an archived manner.

 I know there was one meeting November but I don't know what it was
 called so so far I can't find the logs for that.


It wasn't official, we just gathered together on #novamigration. Attaching
the log here.


 So if those affected by this issue can identify what time (UTC please,
 don't tell me what time zone you are in it is too hard to guess what UTC
 time you are available) and day of the week you are available for a
 meeting I'll create one and we can start talking to each other.

 I need to avoid Monday 1500 and 2100 UTC, Tuesday 0800 UTC, 1400 UTC and
 1900 - 2200 UTC, Wednesdays 1500 - 1700 UTC, Thursdays 1400 and 2100 UTC.


I'm available each weekday 0700-1600 UTC, 1700-1800 UTC is also acceptable.

Thanks,
Oleg



 Thanks,
 Anita.

 
  Thanks,
  Kyle
 
 
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Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2014-12-22 Thread Joe Gordon
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Kyle Mestery mest...@mestery.com wrote:

 On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Anita Kuno ante...@anteaya.info wrote:

 Rather than waste your time making excuses let me state where we are and
 where I would like to get to, also sharing my thoughts about how you can
 get involved if you want to see this happen as badly as I have been told
 you do.

 Where we are:
 * a great deal of foundation work has been accomplished to achieve
 parity with nova-network and neutron to the extent that those involved
 are ready for migration plans to be formulated and be put in place
 * a summit session happened with notes and intentions[0]
 * people took responsibility and promptly got swamped with other
 responsibilities
 * spec deadlines arose and in neutron's case have passed
 * currently a neutron spec [1] is a work in progress (and it needs
 significant work still) and a nova spec is required and doesn't have a
 first draft or a champion

 Where I would like to get to:
 * I need people in addition to Oleg Bondarev to be available to help
 come up with ideas and words to describe them to create the specs in a
 very short amount of time (Oleg is doing great work and is a fabulous
 person, yay Oleg, he just can't do this alone)
 * specifically I need a contact on the nova side of this complex
 problem, similar to Oleg on the neutron side
 * we need to have a way for people involved with this effort to find
 each other, talk to each other and track progress
 * we need to have representation at both nova and neutron weekly
 meetings to communicate status and needs

 We are at K-2 and our current status is insufficient to expect this work
 will be accomplished by the end of K-3. I will be championing this work,
 in whatever state, so at least it doesn't fall off the map. If you would
 like to help this effort please get in contact. I will be thinking of
 ways to further this work and will be communicating to those who
 identify as affected by these decisions in the most effective methods of
 which I am capable.

 Thank you to all who have gotten us as far as well have gotten in this
 effort, it has been a long haul and you have all done great work. Let's
 keep going and finish this.

 Thank you,
 Anita.

 Thank you for volunteering to drive this effort Anita, I am very happy
 about this. I support you 100%.

 I'd like to point out that we really need a point of contact on the nova
 side, similar to Oleg on the Neutron side. IMHO, this is step 1 here to
 continue moving this forward.


At the summit the nova team marked the nova-network to neutron migration as
a priority [0], so we are collectively interested in seeing this happen and
want to help in any way possible.   With regard to a nova point of contact,
anyone in nova-specs-core should work, that way we can cover more time
zones.

From what I can gather the first step is to finish fleshing out the first
spec [1], and it sounds like it would be good to get a few nova-cores
reviewing it as well.




[0]
http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/priorities/kilo-priorities.html
[1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142456/



 Thanks,
 Kyle


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Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2014-12-22 Thread Anita Kuno
On 12/22/2014 01:32 PM, Joe Gordon wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Kyle Mestery mest...@mestery.com wrote:
 
 On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Anita Kuno ante...@anteaya.info wrote:

 Rather than waste your time making excuses let me state where we are and
 where I would like to get to, also sharing my thoughts about how you can
 get involved if you want to see this happen as badly as I have been told
 you do.

 Where we are:
 * a great deal of foundation work has been accomplished to achieve
 parity with nova-network and neutron to the extent that those involved
 are ready for migration plans to be formulated and be put in place
 * a summit session happened with notes and intentions[0]
 * people took responsibility and promptly got swamped with other
 responsibilities
 * spec deadlines arose and in neutron's case have passed
 * currently a neutron spec [1] is a work in progress (and it needs
 significant work still) and a nova spec is required and doesn't have a
 first draft or a champion

 Where I would like to get to:
 * I need people in addition to Oleg Bondarev to be available to help
 come up with ideas and words to describe them to create the specs in a
 very short amount of time (Oleg is doing great work and is a fabulous
 person, yay Oleg, he just can't do this alone)
 * specifically I need a contact on the nova side of this complex
 problem, similar to Oleg on the neutron side
 * we need to have a way for people involved with this effort to find
 each other, talk to each other and track progress
 * we need to have representation at both nova and neutron weekly
 meetings to communicate status and needs

 We are at K-2 and our current status is insufficient to expect this work
 will be accomplished by the end of K-3. I will be championing this work,
 in whatever state, so at least it doesn't fall off the map. If you would
 like to help this effort please get in contact. I will be thinking of
 ways to further this work and will be communicating to those who
 identify as affected by these decisions in the most effective methods of
 which I am capable.

 Thank you to all who have gotten us as far as well have gotten in this
 effort, it has been a long haul and you have all done great work. Let's
 keep going and finish this.

 Thank you,
 Anita.

 Thank you for volunteering to drive this effort Anita, I am very happy
 about this. I support you 100%.

 I'd like to point out that we really need a point of contact on the nova
 side, similar to Oleg on the Neutron side. IMHO, this is step 1 here to
 continue moving this forward.

 
 At the summit the nova team marked the nova-network to neutron migration as
 a priority [0], so we are collectively interested in seeing this happen and
 want to help in any way possible.   With regard to a nova point of contact,
 anyone in nova-specs-core should work, that way we can cover more time
 zones.
 
 From what I can gather the first step is to finish fleshing out the first
 spec [1], and it sounds like it would be good to get a few nova-cores
 reviewing it as well.
 
 
 
 
 [0]
 http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/priorities/kilo-priorities.html
 [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142456/
 
 
Wonderful, thank you for the support Joe.

It appears that we need to have a regular weekly meeting to track
progress in an archived manner.

I know there was one meeting November but I don't know what it was
called so so far I can't find the logs for that.

So if those affected by this issue can identify what time (UTC please,
don't tell me what time zone you are in it is too hard to guess what UTC
time you are available) and day of the week you are available for a
meeting I'll create one and we can start talking to each other.

I need to avoid Monday 1500 and 2100 UTC, Tuesday 0800 UTC, 1400 UTC and
1900 - 2200 UTC, Wednesdays 1500 - 1700 UTC, Thursdays 1400 and 2100 UTC.

Thanks,
Anita.


 Thanks,
 Kyle


 [0] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-nova-network-to-neutron
 [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142456/

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Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2014-12-19 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Anita Kuno ante...@anteaya.info wrote:

 Rather than waste your time making excuses let me state where we are and
 where I would like to get to, also sharing my thoughts about how you can
 get involved if you want to see this happen as badly as I have been told
 you do.

 Where we are:
 * a great deal of foundation work has been accomplished to achieve
 parity with nova-network and neutron to the extent that those involved
 are ready for migration plans to be formulated and be put in place
 * a summit session happened with notes and intentions[0]
 * people took responsibility and promptly got swamped with other
 responsibilities
 * spec deadlines arose and in neutron's case have passed
 * currently a neutron spec [1] is a work in progress (and it needs
 significant work still) and a nova spec is required and doesn't have a
 first draft or a champion

 Where I would like to get to:
 * I need people in addition to Oleg Bondarev to be available to help
 come up with ideas and words to describe them to create the specs in a
 very short amount of time (Oleg is doing great work and is a fabulous
 person, yay Oleg, he just can't do this alone)
 * specifically I need a contact on the nova side of this complex
 problem, similar to Oleg on the neutron side
 * we need to have a way for people involved with this effort to find
 each other, talk to each other and track progress
 * we need to have representation at both nova and neutron weekly
 meetings to communicate status and needs

 We are at K-2 and our current status is insufficient to expect this work
 will be accomplished by the end of K-3. I will be championing this work,
 in whatever state, so at least it doesn't fall off the map. If you would
 like to help this effort please get in contact. I will be thinking of
 ways to further this work and will be communicating to those who
 identify as affected by these decisions in the most effective methods of
 which I am capable.

 Thank you to all who have gotten us as far as well have gotten in this
 effort, it has been a long haul and you have all done great work. Let's
 keep going and finish this.

 Thank you,
 Anita.

 Thank you for volunteering to drive this effort Anita, I am very happy
about this. I support you 100%.

I'd like to point out that we really need a point of contact on the nova
side, similar to Oleg on the Neutron side. IMHO, this is step 1 here to
continue moving this forward.

Thanks,
Kyle


 [0] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-nova-network-to-neutron
 [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142456/

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