Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Undercloud backup and restore

[Shinobu Kinjo]

Hi Carlos,

Since I thought that that is a kind of documentation bug, I filed a
bug on this as Doc bug.
Now I'm seeing that you were assigned...

Regards,
Shinobu Kinjo


On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 5:48 PM, Carlos Camacho Gonzalez
 wrote:
> Hi Shinobu,
>
> It's really helpful to get feedback from customers, please, can you give me
> details about the failures you are having?. If so, sending me directly some
> logs would be great.
>
> Thanks,
> Carlos.
>
>
> On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 9:07 AM, Shinobu Kinjo  wrote:
>>
>> Here is feedback from the customer.
>>
>> Following the guide [1], undercloud restoration was not succeeded.
>>
>> Swift objects could haven't been downloaded after restoration even
>> though they followed all procedures during backing up / restoring
>> their system described in [1].
>>
>> Since that, I'm not 100% sure if `tar -czf` is good enough to take a
>> backup of the system or not.
>>
>> It would be great help to do dry-run against backed up data so that we
>> can make sure that backed up data is completely fine.
>>
>> [1]
>> https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux_openstack_platform/7/html/back_up_and_restore_red_hat_enterprise_linux_openstack_platform/back_up_and_restore_the_undercloud
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Carlos Camacho Gonzalez
>>  wrote:
>> > Hey folks,
>> >
>> > Based on what we discussed yesterday in the TripleO weekly team meeting,
>> > I'll like to propose a blueprint to create 2 features, basically to
>> > backup
>> > and restore the Undercloud.
>> >
>> > I'll like to follow in the first iteration the available docs for this
>> > purpose [1][2].
>> >
>> > With the addition of backing up the config files on /etc/ specifically
>> > to be
>> > able to recover from a failed Undercloud upgrade, i.e. recover the repos
>> > info removed in [3].
>> >
>> > I'll like to target this for P as I think I have enough time for
>> > coding/testing these features.
>> >
>> > I already have created a blueprint to track this effort
>> > https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tripleo/+spec/undercloud-backup-restore
>> >
>> > What do you think about it?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Carlos.
>> >
>> > [1]:
>> >
>> > https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux_openstack_platform/7/html/back_up_and_restore_red_hat_enterprise_linux_openstack_platform/restore
>> >
>> > [2]:
>> >
>> > https://docs.openstack.org/developer/tripleo-docs/post_deployment/backup_restore_undercloud.html
>> >
>> > [3]:
>> >
>> > https://docs.openstack.org/developer/tripleo-docs/installation/updating.html
>> >
>> >
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Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Undercloud backup and restore

[Carlos Camacho Gonzalez]

Hi Shinobu,

It's really helpful to get feedback from customers, please, can you give me
details about the failures you are having?. If so, sending me directly some
logs would be great.

Thanks,
Carlos.

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 9:07 AM, Shinobu Kinjo  wrote:
>
> Here is feedback from the customer.
>
> Following the guide [1], undercloud restoration was not succeeded.
>
> Swift objects could haven't been downloaded after restoration even
> though they followed all procedures during backing up / restoring
> their system described in [1].
>
> Since that, I'm not 100% sure if `tar -czf` is good enough to take a
> backup of the system or not.
>
> It would be great help to do dry-run against backed up data so that we
> can make sure that backed up data is completely fine.
>
> [1]
https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux_openstack_platform/7/html/back_up_and_restore_red_hat_enterprise_linux_openstack_platform/back_up_and_restore_the_undercloud
>
>
> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Carlos Camacho Gonzalez
>  wrote:
> > Hey folks,
> >
> > Based on what we discussed yesterday in the TripleO weekly team meeting,
> > I'll like to propose a blueprint to create 2 features, basically to
backup
> > and restore the Undercloud.
> >
> > I'll like to follow in the first iteration the available docs for this
> > purpose [1][2].
> >
> > With the addition of backing up the config files on /etc/ specifically
to be
> > able to recover from a failed Undercloud upgrade, i.e. recover the repos
> > info removed in [3].
> >
> > I'll like to target this for P as I think I have enough time for
> > coding/testing these features.
> >
> > I already have created a blueprint to track this effort
> > https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tripleo/+spec/undercloud-backup-restore
> >
> > What do you think about it?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Carlos.
> >
> > [1]:
> >
https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux_openstack_platform/7/html/back_up_and_restore_red_hat_enterprise_linux_openstack_platform/restore
> >
> > [2]:
> >
https://docs.openstack.org/developer/tripleo-docs/post_deployment/backup_restore_undercloud.html
> >
> > [3]:
> >
https://docs.openstack.org/developer/tripleo-docs/installation/updating.html
> >
> >
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Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Undercloud backup and restore

[Shinobu Kinjo]

Here is feedback from the customer.

Following the guide [1], undercloud restoration was not succeeded.

Swift objects could haven't been downloaded after restoration even
though they followed all procedures during backing up / restoring
their system described in [1].

Since that, I'm not 100% sure if `tar -czf` is good enough to take a
backup of the system or not.

It would be great help to do dry-run against backed up data so that we
can make sure that backed up data is completely fine.

[1] 
https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux_openstack_platform/7/html/back_up_and_restore_red_hat_enterprise_linux_openstack_platform/back_up_and_restore_the_undercloud


On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Carlos Camacho Gonzalez
 wrote:
> Hey folks,
>
> Based on what we discussed yesterday in the TripleO weekly team meeting,
> I'll like to propose a blueprint to create 2 features, basically to backup
> and restore the Undercloud.
>
> I'll like to follow in the first iteration the available docs for this
> purpose [1][2].
>
> With the addition of backing up the config files on /etc/ specifically to be
> able to recover from a failed Undercloud upgrade, i.e. recover the repos
> info removed in [3].
>
> I'll like to target this for P as I think I have enough time for
> coding/testing these features.
>
> I already have created a blueprint to track this effort
> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tripleo/+spec/undercloud-backup-restore
>
> What do you think about it?
>
> Thanks,
> Carlos.
>
> [1]:
> https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux_openstack_platform/7/html/back_up_and_restore_red_hat_enterprise_linux_openstack_platform/restore
>
> [2]:
> https://docs.openstack.org/developer/tripleo-docs/post_deployment/backup_restore_undercloud.html
>
> [3]:
> https://docs.openstack.org/developer/tripleo-docs/installation/updating.html
>
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Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Undercloud backup and restore

[Carlos Camacho Gonzalez]

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Jiří Stránský  wrote:

> On 24.5.2017 15:02, Marios Andreou wrote:
>
>> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Carlos Camacho Gonzalez <
>> ccama...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hey folks,
>>>
>>> Based on what we discussed yesterday in the TripleO weekly team meeting,
>>> I'll like to propose a blueprint to create 2 features, basically to
>>> backup
>>> and restore the Undercloud.
>>>
>>> I'll like to follow in the first iteration the available docs for this
>>> purpose [1][2].
>>>
>>> With the addition of backing up the config files on /etc/ specifically to
>>> be able to recover from a failed Undercloud upgrade, i.e. recover the
>>> repos
>>> info removed in [3].
>>>
>>> I'll like to target this for P as I think I have enough time for
>>> coding/testing these features.
>>>
>>> I already have created a blueprint to track this effort
>>> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tripleo/+spec/undercloud-backup-restore
>>>
>>> What do you think about it?
>>>
>>>
>> +1 from me as you know but adding my support on the list too. I think it
>> is
>> a great idea - there are cases especially around changing network config
>> during an upgrade for example where the best remedy is to restore the
>> undercloud for the network definitions (both neutron config and heat db).
>>
>
> +1 i think there's not really an easy way out of these issues other than a
> restore. We already recommend doing a backup before upgrading [1], so
> having something that can further help operators in this regard would be
> good.
>
>
Hey Jiri, Marios!!!

Sorry for the delayed reply here.

Yeahp, that's what I'll like to achieve, more than recover the UC, this is
about to restore it to a point we know it was working correctly.

Now, I'm following Ben's advise for this new iteration, taking a part the
big method which is currently meking the backup into small ones for
finishing the unit thests.

Cheers,
Carlos.

Jirka
>
> [1] http://tripleo.org/post_deployment/upgrade.html
>
>
>
>> thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Carlos.
>>>
>>> [1]: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_
>>> enterprise_linux_openstack_platform/7/html/back_up_and_
>>> restore_red_hat_enterprise_linux_openstack_platform/restore
>>>
>>> [2]: https://docs.openstack.org/developer/tripleo-docs/post_
>>> deployment/backup_restore_undercloud.html
>>>
>>> [3]: https://docs.openstack.org/developer/tripleo-docs/
>>> installation/updating.html
>>>
>>>
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Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Undercloud backup and restore

[Carlos Camacho Gonzalez]

Hey Yolanda!

Thanks for your feedback, that's partially the idea of these 2 features,
right now they are targeting the Undercloud (backup and restore), but yes,
we should point something similar to the OC.

Cheers,
Carlos.

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Yolanda Robla Mota 
wrote:

> Hi Carlos
> A common request that i hear, is that customers need a way to rollback or
> downgrade a system after an upgrade. So that will be useful of course. What
> about the overcloud, are you considering that possibility? If they find
> that an upgrade on a controller node breaks something for example.
>
> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 9:26 AM, Carlos Camacho Gonzalez <
> ccama...@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey folks,
>>
>> Based on what we discussed yesterday in the TripleO weekly team meeting,
>> I'll like to propose a blueprint to create 2 features, basically to backup
>> and restore the Undercloud.
>>
>> I'll like to follow in the first iteration the available docs for this
>> purpose [1][2].
>>
>> With the addition of backing up the config files on /etc/ specifically to
>> be able to recover from a failed Undercloud upgrade, i.e. recover the repos
>> info removed in [3].
>>
>> I'll like to target this for P as I think I have enough time for
>> coding/testing these features.
>>
>> I already have created a blueprint to track this effort
>> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tripleo/+spec/undercloud-backup-restore
>>
>> What do you think about it?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Carlos.
>>
>> [1]: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterp
>> rise_linux_openstack_platform/7/html/back_up_and_restore_
>> red_hat_enterprise_linux_openstack_platform/restore
>>
>> [2]: https://docs.openstack.org/developer/tripleo-docs/post_deplo
>> yment/backup_restore_undercloud.html
>>
>> [3]: https://docs.openstack.org/developer/tripleo-docs/installati
>> on/updating.html
>>
>>
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Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Undercloud backup and restore

[Jiří Stránský]

On 24.5.2017 15:02, Marios Andreou wrote:

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Carlos Camacho Gonzalez <
ccama...@redhat.com> wrote:


Hey folks,

Based on what we discussed yesterday in the TripleO weekly team meeting,
I'll like to propose a blueprint to create 2 features, basically to backup
and restore the Undercloud.

I'll like to follow in the first iteration the available docs for this
purpose [1][2].

With the addition of backing up the config files on /etc/ specifically to
be able to recover from a failed Undercloud upgrade, i.e. recover the repos
info removed in [3].

I'll like to target this for P as I think I have enough time for
coding/testing these features.

I already have created a blueprint to track this effort
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tripleo/+spec/undercloud-backup-restore

What do you think about it?



+1 from me as you know but adding my support on the list too. I think it is
a great idea - there are cases especially around changing network config
during an upgrade for example where the best remedy is to restore the
undercloud for the network definitions (both neutron config and heat db).


+1 i think there's not really an easy way out of these issues other than 
a restore. We already recommend doing a backup before upgrading [1], so 
having something that can further help operators in this regard would be 
good.


Jirka

[1] http://tripleo.org/post_deployment/upgrade.html



thanks,




Thanks,
Carlos.

[1]: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_
enterprise_linux_openstack_platform/7/html/back_up_and_
restore_red_hat_enterprise_linux_openstack_platform/restore

[2]: https://docs.openstack.org/developer/tripleo-docs/post_
deployment/backup_restore_undercloud.html

[3]: https://docs.openstack.org/developer/tripleo-docs/
installation/updating.html


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Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Undercloud backup and restore

[Marios Andreou]

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Carlos Camacho Gonzalez <
ccama...@redhat.com> wrote:

> Hey folks,
>
> Based on what we discussed yesterday in the TripleO weekly team meeting,
> I'll like to propose a blueprint to create 2 features, basically to backup
> and restore the Undercloud.
>
> I'll like to follow in the first iteration the available docs for this
> purpose [1][2].
>
> With the addition of backing up the config files on /etc/ specifically to
> be able to recover from a failed Undercloud upgrade, i.e. recover the repos
> info removed in [3].
>
> I'll like to target this for P as I think I have enough time for
> coding/testing these features.
>
> I already have created a blueprint to track this effort
> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tripleo/+spec/undercloud-backup-restore
>
> What do you think about it?
>

+1 from me as you know but adding my support on the list too. I think it is
a great idea - there are cases especially around changing network config
during an upgrade for example where the best remedy is to restore the
undercloud for the network definitions (both neutron config and heat db).

thanks,


>
> Thanks,
> Carlos.
>
> [1]: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_
> enterprise_linux_openstack_platform/7/html/back_up_and_
> restore_red_hat_enterprise_linux_openstack_platform/restore
>
> [2]: https://docs.openstack.org/developer/tripleo-docs/post_
> deployment/backup_restore_undercloud.html
>
> [3]: https://docs.openstack.org/developer/tripleo-docs/
> installation/updating.html
>
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Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Undercloud backup and restore

[Yolanda Robla Mota]

Hi Carlos
A common request that i hear, is that customers need a way to rollback or
downgrade a system after an upgrade. So that will be useful of course. What
about the overcloud, are you considering that possibility? If they find
that an upgrade on a controller node breaks something for example.

On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 9:26 AM, Carlos Camacho Gonzalez <
ccama...@redhat.com> wrote:

> Hey folks,
>
> Based on what we discussed yesterday in the TripleO weekly team meeting,
> I'll like to propose a blueprint to create 2 features, basically to backup
> and restore the Undercloud.
>
> I'll like to follow in the first iteration the available docs for this
> purpose [1][2].
>
> With the addition of backing up the config files on /etc/ specifically to
> be able to recover from a failed Undercloud upgrade, i.e. recover the repos
> info removed in [3].
>
> I'll like to target this for P as I think I have enough time for
> coding/testing these features.
>
> I already have created a blueprint to track this effort
> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tripleo/+spec/undercloud-backup-restore
>
> What do you think about it?
>
> Thanks,
> Carlos.
>
> [1]: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_
> enterprise_linux_openstack_platform/7/html/back_up_and_
> restore_red_hat_enterprise_linux_openstack_platform/restore
>
> [2]: https://docs.openstack.org/developer/tripleo-docs/post_
> deployment/backup_restore_undercloud.html
>
> [3]: https://docs.openstack.org/developer/tripleo-docs/
> installation/updating.html
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[openstack-dev] [TripleO] Undercloud backup and restore

[Carlos Camacho Gonzalez]

 Hey folks,

Based on what we discussed yesterday in the TripleO weekly team meeting,
I'll like to propose a blueprint to create 2 features, basically to backup
and restore the Undercloud.

I'll like to follow in the first iteration the available docs for this
purpose [1][2].

With the addition of backing up the config files on /etc/ specifically to
be able to recover from a failed Undercloud upgrade, i.e. recover the repos
info removed in [3].

I'll like to target this for P as I think I have enough time for
coding/testing these features.

I already have created a blueprint to track this effort
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tripleo/+spec/undercloud-backup-restore

What do you think about it?

Thanks,
Carlos.

[1]:
https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux_openstack_platform/7/html/back_up_and_restore_red_hat_enterprise_linux_openstack_platform/restore

[2]:
https://docs.openstack.org/developer/tripleo-docs/post_deployment/backup_restore_undercloud.html

[3]:
https://docs.openstack.org/developer/tripleo-docs/installation/updating.html
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