Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic] Trello board

2016-06-07 Thread Jim Rollenhagen 
On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 07:50:42PM +, Tristan Cacqueray wrote:
> On 06/03/2016 07:08 PM, Jim Rollenhagen wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 06:29:13PM +0200, Alexis Monville wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Jim Rollenhagen  
> >> wrote:
> >>> Hey all,
> >>>
> >>> Myself and some other cores have had trouble tracking our priorities
> >>> using Launchpad and friends, so we put together a Trello board to help
> >>> us track it. This should also help us focus on what to review or work
> >>> on.
> >>>
> >>> https://trello.com/b/ROTxmGIc/ironic-newton-priorities
> >>>
> >>> Some notes on this:
> >>>
> >>> * This is not the "official" tracking system for ironic - everything
> >>>   should still be tracked in Launchpad as we've been doing. This just
> >>>   helps us organize that.
> >>>
> >>> * This is not free software, unfortunately. Sorry. If this is a serious
> >>>   problem for you in practice, let's chat on IRC and try to come up with
> >>>   a solution.
> >>>
> >>> * I plan on only giving cores edit access on this board to help keep it
> >>>   non-chaotic.
> >>>
> >>> * I'd like to keep this restricted to the priorities we decided on at
> >>>   the summit (including the small stuff not on our priorities page). I'm
> >>>   okay with adding a small number of things here and there, if something
> >>>   comes up that is super important or we think is a nice feature we
> >>>   definitely want to finish in Newton. I don't want to put everything
> >>>   being worked on in this (at least for now).
> >>>
> >>> If you're a core and want edit access to the board, please PM me on IRC
> >>> with your Trello username and I'll add you.
> >>>
> >>> Feedback welcome. :)
> >>
> >> I would like to know if you are aware of this specs around StoryBoard:
> >> http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/task-tracker.html
> >>
> >> Maybe it could be interesting to have a look at it and see if it could
> >> fit your needs?
> > 
> > I'm aware of it, and keeping storyboard on my radar.
> > 
> > I am excited for the time when it's feasible to move the project from
> > Launchpad to storyboard, but I don't think that time has come yet.
> > 
> > I don't want to disrupt all of our tracking right now. We simply need a
> > high-level view of what's currently important to the ironic project,
> > where those important things are in terms of getting done, and
> > aggregating pointers to the resources needed to continue working on
> > those things.
> > 
> > We aren't moving our bug/feature list to Trello, simply using it as a
> > way to stay more organized. :)
> > 
> 
> Without moving your project from launhpad to storyboard, it seems like
> you can already use storyboard to keep things organized with a kanban
> board, e.g.:
>   https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/board/15
> 
> To create a new board, you need to click "Create new" then "board".
> Cards are in fact normal stories that you can update and reference directly.
> 
> Is there something missing that makes Trello a better solution ?

Oh neat! I totally missed that. I didn't evaluate storyboard super deep,
given some of the things I heard about it not being ready for everyone
to switch to. So I don't have a good list as to what Trello does (or
doesn't) do better.

I'd like to stick with Trello for now (since we're all set up on it) and
look at storyboard harder for the Ocata cycle. I specifically
quarantined trello to only our Newton priorities, partially for this
reason.

// jim

> 
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Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic] Trello board

2016-06-05 Thread Michael Davies 
On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 1:09 AM, Jim Rollenhagen 
wrote:

> Myself and some other cores have had trouble tracking our priorities
> using Launchpad and friends, so we put together a Trello board to help
> us track it. This should also help us focus on what to review or work
> on.
>
> https://trello.com/b/ROTxmGIc/ironic-newton-priorities



Thanks Jim for sharing that link.  Anything to help keep things organised :)
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Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic] Trello board

2016-06-03 Thread Tristan Cacqueray 
On 06/03/2016 07:08 PM, Jim Rollenhagen wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 06:29:13PM +0200, Alexis Monville wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Jim Rollenhagen  
>> wrote:
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> Myself and some other cores have had trouble tracking our priorities
>>> using Launchpad and friends, so we put together a Trello board to help
>>> us track it. This should also help us focus on what to review or work
>>> on.
>>>
>>> https://trello.com/b/ROTxmGIc/ironic-newton-priorities
>>>
>>> Some notes on this:
>>>
>>> * This is not the "official" tracking system for ironic - everything
>>>   should still be tracked in Launchpad as we've been doing. This just
>>>   helps us organize that.
>>>
>>> * This is not free software, unfortunately. Sorry. If this is a serious
>>>   problem for you in practice, let's chat on IRC and try to come up with
>>>   a solution.
>>>
>>> * I plan on only giving cores edit access on this board to help keep it
>>>   non-chaotic.
>>>
>>> * I'd like to keep this restricted to the priorities we decided on at
>>>   the summit (including the small stuff not on our priorities page). I'm
>>>   okay with adding a small number of things here and there, if something
>>>   comes up that is super important or we think is a nice feature we
>>>   definitely want to finish in Newton. I don't want to put everything
>>>   being worked on in this (at least for now).
>>>
>>> If you're a core and want edit access to the board, please PM me on IRC
>>> with your Trello username and I'll add you.
>>>
>>> Feedback welcome. :)
>>
>> I would like to know if you are aware of this specs around StoryBoard:
>> http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/task-tracker.html
>>
>> Maybe it could be interesting to have a look at it and see if it could
>> fit your needs?
> 
> I'm aware of it, and keeping storyboard on my radar.
> 
> I am excited for the time when it's feasible to move the project from
> Launchpad to storyboard, but I don't think that time has come yet.
> 
> I don't want to disrupt all of our tracking right now. We simply need a
> high-level view of what's currently important to the ironic project,
> where those important things are in terms of getting done, and
> aggregating pointers to the resources needed to continue working on
> those things.
> 
> We aren't moving our bug/feature list to Trello, simply using it as a
> way to stay more organized. :)
> 

Without moving your project from launhpad to storyboard, it seems like
you can already use storyboard to keep things organized with a kanban
board, e.g.:
  https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/board/15

To create a new board, you need to click "Create new" then "board".
Cards are in fact normal stories that you can update and reference directly.

Is there something missing that makes Trello a better solution ?

-Tristan



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Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic] Trello board

2016-06-03 Thread Jim Rollenhagen 
On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 06:29:13PM +0200, Alexis Monville wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Jim Rollenhagen  
> wrote:
> > Hey all,
> >
> > Myself and some other cores have had trouble tracking our priorities
> > using Launchpad and friends, so we put together a Trello board to help
> > us track it. This should also help us focus on what to review or work
> > on.
> >
> > https://trello.com/b/ROTxmGIc/ironic-newton-priorities
> >
> > Some notes on this:
> >
> > * This is not the "official" tracking system for ironic - everything
> >   should still be tracked in Launchpad as we've been doing. This just
> >   helps us organize that.
> >
> > * This is not free software, unfortunately. Sorry. If this is a serious
> >   problem for you in practice, let's chat on IRC and try to come up with
> >   a solution.
> >
> > * I plan on only giving cores edit access on this board to help keep it
> >   non-chaotic.
> >
> > * I'd like to keep this restricted to the priorities we decided on at
> >   the summit (including the small stuff not on our priorities page). I'm
> >   okay with adding a small number of things here and there, if something
> >   comes up that is super important or we think is a nice feature we
> >   definitely want to finish in Newton. I don't want to put everything
> >   being worked on in this (at least for now).
> >
> > If you're a core and want edit access to the board, please PM me on IRC
> > with your Trello username and I'll add you.
> >
> > Feedback welcome. :)
> 
> I would like to know if you are aware of this specs around StoryBoard:
> http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/task-tracker.html
> 
> Maybe it could be interesting to have a look at it and see if it could
> fit your needs?

I'm aware of it, and keeping storyboard on my radar.

I am excited for the time when it's feasible to move the project from
Launchpad to storyboard, but I don't think that time has come yet.

I don't want to disrupt all of our tracking right now. We simply need a
high-level view of what's currently important to the ironic project,
where those important things are in terms of getting done, and
aggregating pointers to the resources needed to continue working on
those things.

We aren't moving our bug/feature list to Trello, simply using it as a
way to stay more organized. :)

// jim

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> > // jim
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Re: [openstack-dev] [ironic] Trello board

2016-06-03 Thread Alexis Monville 
Hi,

On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Jim Rollenhagen  wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> Myself and some other cores have had trouble tracking our priorities
> using Launchpad and friends, so we put together a Trello board to help
> us track it. This should also help us focus on what to review or work
> on.
>
> https://trello.com/b/ROTxmGIc/ironic-newton-priorities
>
> Some notes on this:
>
> * This is not the "official" tracking system for ironic - everything
>   should still be tracked in Launchpad as we've been doing. This just
>   helps us organize that.
>
> * This is not free software, unfortunately. Sorry. If this is a serious
>   problem for you in practice, let's chat on IRC and try to come up with
>   a solution.
>
> * I plan on only giving cores edit access on this board to help keep it
>   non-chaotic.
>
> * I'd like to keep this restricted to the priorities we decided on at
>   the summit (including the small stuff not on our priorities page). I'm
>   okay with adding a small number of things here and there, if something
>   comes up that is super important or we think is a nice feature we
>   definitely want to finish in Newton. I don't want to put everything
>   being worked on in this (at least for now).
>
> If you're a core and want edit access to the board, please PM me on IRC
> with your Trello username and I'll add you.
>
> Feedback welcome. :)

I would like to know if you are aware of this specs around StoryBoard:
http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/task-tracker.html

Maybe it could be interesting to have a look at it and see if it could
fit your needs?


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[openstack-dev] [ironic] Trello board

2016-06-03 Thread Jim Rollenhagen 
Hey all,

Myself and some other cores have had trouble tracking our priorities
using Launchpad and friends, so we put together a Trello board to help
us track it. This should also help us focus on what to review or work
on.

https://trello.com/b/ROTxmGIc/ironic-newton-priorities

Some notes on this:

* This is not the "official" tracking system for ironic - everything
  should still be tracked in Launchpad as we've been doing. This just
  helps us organize that.

* This is not free software, unfortunately. Sorry. If this is a serious
  problem for you in practice, let's chat on IRC and try to come up with
  a solution.

* I plan on only giving cores edit access on this board to help keep it
  non-chaotic.

* I'd like to keep this restricted to the priorities we decided on at
  the summit (including the small stuff not on our priorities page). I'm
  okay with adding a small number of things here and there, if something
  comes up that is super important or we think is a nice feature we
  definitely want to finish in Newton. I don't want to put everything
  being worked on in this (at least for now).

If you're a core and want edit access to the board, please PM me on IRC
with your Trello username and I'll add you.

Feedback welcome. :)

// jim


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