Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack-ansible] dropping xenial jobs

2018-10-13 Thread Mohammed Naser
FYI: Thanks to Jesse, he has picked up this work and it's up here:

https://review.openstack.org/#/c/609329/6
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 9:56 AM Jesse Pretorius
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> On 10/10/18, 5:54 AM, "Mohammed Naser"  wrote:
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> >So I’ve been thinking of dropping the Xenial jobs to reduce our overall 
> > impact in terms of gate usage in master because we don’t support it.
>
> I think we can start dropping it given our intended supported platform for 
> Stein is Bionic, not Xenial. We'll have to carry Xenial & Bionic for Rocky as 
> voting jobs. Anything ported back and found not to work for both can be fixed 
> through either another patch to master which is back ported, or a 
> re-implementation, as necessary.
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Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack-ansible] dropping xenial jobs

2018-10-10 Thread Jesse Pretorius
On 10/10/18, 5:54 AM, "Mohammed Naser"  wrote:

>So I’ve been thinking of dropping the Xenial jobs to reduce our overall 
> impact in terms of gate usage in master because we don’t support it.

I think we can start dropping it given our intended supported platform for 
Stein is Bionic, not Xenial. We'll have to carry Xenial & Bionic for Rocky as 
voting jobs. Anything ported back and found not to work for both can be fixed 
through either another patch to master which is back ported, or a 
re-implementation, as necessary.




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Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack-ansible] dropping xenial jobs

2018-10-10 Thread Jean-Philippe Evrard
On Wed, 2018-10-10 at 06:50 +0200, Mohammed Naser wrote:
> Hi everyone!
> 
> So I’ve been thinking of dropping the Xenial jobs to reduce our
> overall impact in terms of gate usage in master because we don’t
> support it. 
> 
> However, I was a bit torn on this because i realize that it’s
> possible for us to write things and backport them only to find out
> that they’d break under xenial which can be deployed with Rocky. 
> 
> Thoughts?  Ideas?  I was thinking maybe Lee an experimental job.. not
> really sure on specifics but I’d like to bring in more feedback. 
> 
> Thanks,
> Mohammed
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Hello,

In the past we removed the jobs (ocata didn't have trusty jobs, IIRC),
and made sure backports were still passing the gates of newton with
trusty jobs voting. It may force a re-implementation in lower branches,
but it is fine for me, as ansible versions also differ and might
require re-implementation anyway.

That said, we didn't have the flexibility we have now with Zuul v3, and
making the jobs voting/nv/experimental.

The middle ground would be to have a non-voting check job.
It is fine, but it consumes resources for patches that aren't supposed
to be backported, and therefore I think it's not the greatest solution.

I like the "check experimental" part. It has an inconvenient: it relies
on our good behaviour:
When a bug is raised (so first element, we should not forget the bug
link!) for backport, we should all keep in mind to check experimental
before attempting the merge on the higher branch.

That said, I still prefer the "check experimental" that nothing.
You have my vote! 

Best regards,
JP


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[openstack-dev] [openstack-ansible] dropping xenial jobs

2018-10-09 Thread Mohammed Naser
Hi everyone!

So I’ve been thinking of dropping the Xenial jobs to reduce our overall impact 
in terms of gate usage in master because we don’t support it. 

However, I was a bit torn on this because i realize that it’s possible for us 
to write things and backport them only to find out that they’d break under 
xenial which can be deployed with Rocky. 

Thoughts?  Ideas?  I was thinking maybe Lee an experimental job.. not really 
sure on specifics but I’d like to bring in more feedback. 

Thanks,
Mohammed
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