Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][oslo.messaging] Call to deprecate the 'pika' driver in the oslo.messaging project

[Ken Giusti]

So it's been over a week with no objections.

I will start the deprecation process, including an announcement on the
operator's email list.

Thanks for the feedback.

On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 8:06 PM, ChangBo Guo  wrote:
> +1 , let's focus on key drivers.
>
> 2017-05-17 2:02 GMT+08:00 Joshua Harlow :
>>
>> Fine with me,
>>
>> I'd personally rather get down to say 2 'great' drivers for RPC,
>>
>> And say 1 (or 2?) for notifications.
>>
>> So ya, wfm.
>>
>> -Josh
>>
>>
>> Mehdi Abaakouk wrote:
>>>
>>> +1 too, I haven't seen its contributors since a while.
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 09:42:00PM -0400, Flavio Percoco wrote:

 On 15/05/17 15:29 -0500, Ben Nemec wrote:
>
>
>
> On 05/15/2017 01:55 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote:
>>
>> Excerpts from Davanum Srinivas (dims)'s message of 2017-05-15
>> 14:27:36 -0400:
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Ken Giusti 
>>> wrote:

 Folks,

 It was decided at the oslo.messaging forum at summit that the pika
 driver will be marked as deprecated [1] for removal.
>>>
>>>
>>> [dims} +1 from me.
>>
>>
>> +1
>
>
> Also +1


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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][oslo.messaging] Call to deprecate the 'pika' driver in the oslo.messaging project

[ChangBo Guo]

+1 , let's focus on key drivers.

2017-05-17 2:02 GMT+08:00 Joshua Harlow :

> Fine with me,
>
> I'd personally rather get down to say 2 'great' drivers for RPC,
>
> And say 1 (or 2?) for notifications.
>
> So ya, wfm.
>
> -Josh
>
>
> Mehdi Abaakouk wrote:
>
>> +1 too, I haven't seen its contributors since a while.
>>
>> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 09:42:00PM -0400, Flavio Percoco wrote:
>>
>>> On 15/05/17 15:29 -0500, Ben Nemec wrote:
>>>


 On 05/15/2017 01:55 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote:

> Excerpts from Davanum Srinivas (dims)'s message of 2017-05-15
> 14:27:36 -0400:
>
>> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Ken Giusti 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> It was decided at the oslo.messaging forum at summit that the pika
>>> driver will be marked as deprecated [1] for removal.
>>>
>>
>> [dims} +1 from me.
>>
>
> +1
>

 Also +1

>>>
>>> +1
>>>
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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][oslo.messaging] Call to deprecate the 'pika' driver in the oslo.messaging project

[Joshua Harlow]

Fine with me,

I'd personally rather get down to say 2 'great' drivers for RPC,

And say 1 (or 2?) for notifications.

So ya, wfm.

-Josh

Mehdi Abaakouk wrote:

+1 too, I haven't seen its contributors since a while.

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 09:42:00PM -0400, Flavio Percoco wrote:

On 15/05/17 15:29 -0500, Ben Nemec wrote:



On 05/15/2017 01:55 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote:

Excerpts from Davanum Srinivas (dims)'s message of 2017-05-15
14:27:36 -0400:

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Ken Giusti  wrote:

Folks,

It was decided at the oslo.messaging forum at summit that the pika
driver will be marked as deprecated [1] for removal.


[dims} +1 from me.


+1


Also +1


+1

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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][oslo.messaging] Call to deprecate the 'pika' driver in the oslo.messaging project

[Mehdi Abaakouk]

+1 too, I haven't seen its contributors since a while.

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 09:42:00PM -0400, Flavio Percoco wrote:

On 15/05/17 15:29 -0500, Ben Nemec wrote:



On 05/15/2017 01:55 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote:

Excerpts from Davanum Srinivas (dims)'s message of 2017-05-15 14:27:36 -0400:

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Ken Giusti  wrote:

Folks,

It was decided at the oslo.messaging forum at summit that the pika
driver will be marked as deprecated [1] for removal.


[dims} +1 from me.


+1


Also +1


+1

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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][oslo.messaging] Call to deprecate the 'pika' driver in the oslo.messaging project

[Flavio Percoco]

On 15/05/17 15:29 -0500, Ben Nemec wrote:



On 05/15/2017 01:55 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote:

Excerpts from Davanum Srinivas (dims)'s message of 2017-05-15 14:27:36 -0400:

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Ken Giusti  wrote:

Folks,

It was decided at the oslo.messaging forum at summit that the pika
driver will be marked as deprecated [1] for removal.


[dims} +1 from me.


+1


Also +1


+1

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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][oslo.messaging] Call to deprecate the 'pika' driver in the oslo.messaging project

[Ben Nemec]

On 05/15/2017 01:55 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote:

Excerpts from Davanum Srinivas (dims)'s message of 2017-05-15 14:27:36 -0400:

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Ken Giusti  wrote:

Folks,

It was decided at the oslo.messaging forum at summit that the pika
driver will be marked as deprecated [1] for removal.


[dims} +1 from me.


+1


Also +1







The pika driver is another rabbitmq-based driver.  It was developed as
a replacement for the current rabbit driver (rabbit://).  The pika
driver is based on the 'pika' rabbitmq client library [2], rather than
the kombu library [3] of the current rabbitmq driver.  The pika
library was recommended by the rabbitmq community a couple of summits
ago as a better client than the kombu client.

However, testing done against this driver did not show "appreciable
difference in performance or reliability" over the existing rabbitmq
driver.

Given this, and the recent departure of some very talented
contributors, the consensus is to deprecate pika and recommend users
stay with the original rabbitmq driver.

The plan is to mark the driver as deprecated in Pike, removal in Rocky.

thanks,


[1] 
https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS_Forum_Oslo.Messaging_driver_recommendations
  (~ line 80)
[2] https://github.com/pika/pika
[3] https://github.com/celery/kombu

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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][oslo.messaging] Call to deprecate the 'pika' driver in the oslo.messaging project

[Doug Hellmann]

Excerpts from Davanum Srinivas (dims)'s message of 2017-05-15 14:27:36 -0400:
> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Ken Giusti  wrote:
> > Folks,
> >
> > It was decided at the oslo.messaging forum at summit that the pika
> > driver will be marked as deprecated [1] for removal.
> 
> [dims} +1 from me.

+1

> 
> >
> > The pika driver is another rabbitmq-based driver.  It was developed as
> > a replacement for the current rabbit driver (rabbit://).  The pika
> > driver is based on the 'pika' rabbitmq client library [2], rather than
> > the kombu library [3] of the current rabbitmq driver.  The pika
> > library was recommended by the rabbitmq community a couple of summits
> > ago as a better client than the kombu client.
> >
> > However, testing done against this driver did not show "appreciable
> > difference in performance or reliability" over the existing rabbitmq
> > driver.
> >
> > Given this, and the recent departure of some very talented
> > contributors, the consensus is to deprecate pika and recommend users
> > stay with the original rabbitmq driver.
> >
> > The plan is to mark the driver as deprecated in Pike, removal in Rocky.
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> >
> > [1] 
> > https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS_Forum_Oslo.Messaging_driver_recommendations
> >   (~ line 80)
> > [2] https://github.com/pika/pika
> > [3] https://github.com/celery/kombu
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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo][oslo.messaging] Call to deprecate the 'pika' driver in the oslo.messaging project

[Davanum Srinivas]

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Ken Giusti  wrote:
> Folks,
>
> It was decided at the oslo.messaging forum at summit that the pika
> driver will be marked as deprecated [1] for removal.

[dims} +1 from me.

>
> The pika driver is another rabbitmq-based driver.  It was developed as
> a replacement for the current rabbit driver (rabbit://).  The pika
> driver is based on the 'pika' rabbitmq client library [2], rather than
> the kombu library [3] of the current rabbitmq driver.  The pika
> library was recommended by the rabbitmq community a couple of summits
> ago as a better client than the kombu client.
>
> However, testing done against this driver did not show "appreciable
> difference in performance or reliability" over the existing rabbitmq
> driver.
>
> Given this, and the recent departure of some very talented
> contributors, the consensus is to deprecate pika and recommend users
> stay with the original rabbitmq driver.
>
> The plan is to mark the driver as deprecated in Pike, removal in Rocky.
>
> thanks,
>
>
> [1] 
> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS_Forum_Oslo.Messaging_driver_recommendations
>   (~ line 80)
> [2] https://github.com/pika/pika
> [3] https://github.com/celery/kombu
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[openstack-dev] [oslo][oslo.messaging] Call to deprecate the 'pika' driver in the oslo.messaging project

[Ken Giusti]

Folks,

It was decided at the oslo.messaging forum at summit that the pika
driver will be marked as deprecated [1] for removal.

The pika driver is another rabbitmq-based driver.  It was developed as
a replacement for the current rabbit driver (rabbit://).  The pika
driver is based on the 'pika' rabbitmq client library [2], rather than
the kombu library [3] of the current rabbitmq driver.  The pika
library was recommended by the rabbitmq community a couple of summits
ago as a better client than the kombu client.

However, testing done against this driver did not show "appreciable
difference in performance or reliability" over the existing rabbitmq
driver.

Given this, and the recent departure of some very talented
contributors, the consensus is to deprecate pika and recommend users
stay with the original rabbitmq driver.

The plan is to mark the driver as deprecated in Pike, removal in Rocky.

thanks,


[1] 
https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BOS_Forum_Oslo.Messaging_driver_recommendations
  (~ line 80)
[2] https://github.com/pika/pika
[3] https://github.com/celery/kombu

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