Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] VMware tools in oslo-incubator or straight to oslo.vmware

2014-02-17 Thread Doug Hellmann
Jeremy took care of creating the repository today, and I have set up the
oslo-vmware-core and oslo-vmware-milestone groups with the appropriate
members.

Doug


On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Doug Hellmann
doug.hellm...@dreamhost.comwrote:

 Thanks, Dims!


 On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Davanum Srinivas dava...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Vipin, Doug,

 I've followed instructions from Doug and this page [1]. Will give
 Infra folks a bit of time and then ping them in a day or so.

 Git Repo on Github : https://github.com/dims/oslo.vmware
 Request to create Gerrit Groups :
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/1275817
 Review request to create stackforge repo and jenkins jobs :
 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70761/

 -- dims

 [1] http://ci.openstack.org/stackforge.html

 On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Doug Hellmann
 doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com wrote:
  Thanks, Vipin,
 
  Dims is going work on setting up your repository and help you configure
 the
  review team. Give us a few days to get the details sorted out.
 
  Doug
 
 
  On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 7:39 AM, Vipin Balachandran
  vbalachand...@vmware.com wrote:
 
  The current API is stable since this is used by nova and cinder for the
  last two releases. Yes, I can act as the maintainer.
 
 
 
  Here is the list of reviewers:
 
  Arnaud Legendre arnaud...@gmail.com
 
  Davanum Srinivas (dims) dava...@gmail.com
 
  garyk gkot...@vmware.com
 
  Kartik Bommepally kbommepa...@vmware.com
 
  Sabari Murugesan smuruge...@vmware.com
 
  Shawn Hartsock harts...@acm.org
 
  Subbu subramanian.neelakan...@gmail.com
 
  Vui Lam v...@vmware.com
 
 
 
  From: Doug Hellmann [mailto:doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com]
  Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 4:22 AM
  To: Vipin Balachandran
  Cc: Donald Stufft; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage
  questions)
 
 
  Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] VMware tools in oslo-incubator or
  straight to oslo.vmware
 
 
 
 
 
  On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Vipin Balachandran
  vbalachand...@vmware.com wrote:
 
  This library is highly specific to VMware drivers in OpenStack and not
 a
  generic VMware API client. As Doug mentioned, this library won't be
 useful
  outside OpenStack. Also, it has some dependencies on openstack.common
 code
  as well. Therefore it makes sense if we make this code as part of OSLO.
 
 
 
  I think we have consensus that, assuming you are committing to API
  stability, this set of code does not need to go through the incubator
 before
  becoming a library. How stable is the current API?
 
 
 
  If it stable and is not going to be useful to anyone outside of
 OpenStack,
  we can create an oslo.vmware library for it. I can start working with
 -infra
  next week to set up the repository.
 
 
 
  We will need someone on your team to be designated as the lead
 maintainer,
  to coordinate with the Oslo PTL for release management issues and bug
  triage. Is that you, Vipin?
 
 
 
  We will also need to have a set of reviewers for the new repository.
 I'll
  add oslo-core, but it will be necessary for a few people familiar with
 the
  code to also be included. If you have anyone from nova or cinder who
 should
  be a reviewer, we can add them, too. Please send me a list of names
 and the
  email addresses used in gerrit so I can add them to the reviewer list
 when
  the repository is created.
 
 
 
  Doug
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  By the way, a work in progress review has been posted for the VMware
  cinder driver integration with the OSLO common code
  (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70108/). The nova integration is
 currently
  under progress.
 
 
 
  Thanks,
 
  Vipin
 
 
 
  From: Doug Hellmann [mailto:doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 4:06 AM
  To: Donald Stufft
  Cc: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions); Vipin
  Balachandran
  Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] VMware tools in oslo-incubator or
  straight to oslo.vmware
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io
 wrote:
 
 
  On Jan 28, 2014, at 5:01 PM, Julien Danjou jul...@danjou.info wrote:
 
   On Tue, Jan 28 2014, Doug Hellmann wrote:
  
   There are several reviews related to adding VMware interface code to
   the
   oslo-incubator so it can be shared among projects (start at
   https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65075/7 if you want to look at the
   code).
  
   I expect this code to be fairly stand-alone, so I wonder if we
 would be
   better off creating an oslo.vmware library from the beginning,
 instead
   of
   bringing it through the incubator.
  
   Thoughts?
  
   This sounds like a good idea, but it doesn't look OpenStack
 specific, so
   maybe building a non-oslo library would be better.
  
   Let's not zope it! :)
 
  +1 on not making it an oslo library.
 
 
 
  Given the number of issues we've seen with stackforge libs in the gate,
  I've changed my default stance on this point.
 
 
 
  It's not clear from the code whether Vipin et al 

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] VMware tools in oslo-incubator or straight to oslo.vmware

2014-02-03 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Hi Vipin, Doug,

I've followed instructions from Doug and this page [1]. Will give
Infra folks a bit of time and then ping them in a day or so.

Git Repo on Github : https://github.com/dims/oslo.vmware
Request to create Gerrit Groups :
https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/1275817
Review request to create stackforge repo and jenkins jobs :
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70761/

-- dims

[1] http://ci.openstack.org/stackforge.html

On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Doug Hellmann
doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com wrote:
 Thanks, Vipin,

 Dims is going work on setting up your repository and help you configure the
 review team. Give us a few days to get the details sorted out.

 Doug


 On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 7:39 AM, Vipin Balachandran
 vbalachand...@vmware.com wrote:

 The current API is stable since this is used by nova and cinder for the
 last two releases. Yes, I can act as the maintainer.



 Here is the list of reviewers:

 Arnaud Legendre arnaud...@gmail.com

 Davanum Srinivas (dims) dava...@gmail.com

 garyk gkot...@vmware.com

 Kartik Bommepally kbommepa...@vmware.com

 Sabari Murugesan smuruge...@vmware.com

 Shawn Hartsock harts...@acm.org

 Subbu subramanian.neelakan...@gmail.com

 Vui Lam v...@vmware.com



 From: Doug Hellmann [mailto:doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com]
 Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 4:22 AM
 To: Vipin Balachandran
 Cc: Donald Stufft; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage
 questions)


 Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] VMware tools in oslo-incubator or
 straight to oslo.vmware





 On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Vipin Balachandran
 vbalachand...@vmware.com wrote:

 This library is highly specific to VMware drivers in OpenStack and not a
 generic VMware API client. As Doug mentioned, this library won't be useful
 outside OpenStack. Also, it has some dependencies on openstack.common code
 as well. Therefore it makes sense if we make this code as part of OSLO.



 I think we have consensus that, assuming you are committing to API
 stability, this set of code does not need to go through the incubator before
 becoming a library. How stable is the current API?



 If it stable and is not going to be useful to anyone outside of OpenStack,
 we can create an oslo.vmware library for it. I can start working with -infra
 next week to set up the repository.



 We will need someone on your team to be designated as the lead maintainer,
 to coordinate with the Oslo PTL for release management issues and bug
 triage. Is that you, Vipin?



 We will also need to have a set of reviewers for the new repository. I'll
 add oslo-core, but it will be necessary for a few people familiar with the
 code to also be included. If you have anyone from nova or cinder who should
 be a reviewer, we can add them, too. Please send me a list of names and the
 email addresses used in gerrit so I can add them to the reviewer list when
 the repository is created.



 Doug







 By the way, a work in progress review has been posted for the VMware
 cinder driver integration with the OSLO common code
 (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70108/). The nova integration is currently
 under progress.



 Thanks,

 Vipin



 From: Doug Hellmann [mailto:doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 4:06 AM
 To: Donald Stufft
 Cc: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions); Vipin
 Balachandran
 Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] VMware tools in oslo-incubator or
 straight to oslo.vmware







 On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote:


 On Jan 28, 2014, at 5:01 PM, Julien Danjou jul...@danjou.info wrote:

  On Tue, Jan 28 2014, Doug Hellmann wrote:
 
  There are several reviews related to adding VMware interface code to
  the
  oslo-incubator so it can be shared among projects (start at
  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65075/7 if you want to look at the
  code).
 
  I expect this code to be fairly stand-alone, so I wonder if we would be
  better off creating an oslo.vmware library from the beginning, instead
  of
  bringing it through the incubator.
 
  Thoughts?
 
  This sounds like a good idea, but it doesn't look OpenStack specific, so
  maybe building a non-oslo library would be better.
 
  Let's not zope it! :)

 +1 on not making it an oslo library.



 Given the number of issues we've seen with stackforge libs in the gate,
 I've changed my default stance on this point.



 It's not clear from the code whether Vipin et al expect this library to be
 useful for anyone not working with both OpenStack and VMware. Either way, I
 anticipate having the library under the symmetric gating rules and managed
 by the one of the OpenStack teams (oslo, nova, cinder?) and VMware
 contributors should make life easier in the long run.



 As far as the actual name goes, I'm not set on oslo.vmware it was just a
 convenient name for the conversation.



 Doug






 
  --
  Julien Danjou
  # Free Software hacker # independent consultant
  # 

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] VMware tools in oslo-incubator or straight to oslo.vmware

2014-02-03 Thread Doug Hellmann
Thanks, Dims!


On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Davanum Srinivas dava...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Vipin, Doug,

 I've followed instructions from Doug and this page [1]. Will give
 Infra folks a bit of time and then ping them in a day or so.

 Git Repo on Github : https://github.com/dims/oslo.vmware
 Request to create Gerrit Groups :
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/1275817
 Review request to create stackforge repo and jenkins jobs :
 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70761/

 -- dims

 [1] http://ci.openstack.org/stackforge.html

 On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Doug Hellmann
 doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com wrote:
  Thanks, Vipin,
 
  Dims is going work on setting up your repository and help you configure
 the
  review team. Give us a few days to get the details sorted out.
 
  Doug
 
 
  On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 7:39 AM, Vipin Balachandran
  vbalachand...@vmware.com wrote:
 
  The current API is stable since this is used by nova and cinder for the
  last two releases. Yes, I can act as the maintainer.
 
 
 
  Here is the list of reviewers:
 
  Arnaud Legendre arnaud...@gmail.com
 
  Davanum Srinivas (dims) dava...@gmail.com
 
  garyk gkot...@vmware.com
 
  Kartik Bommepally kbommepa...@vmware.com
 
  Sabari Murugesan smuruge...@vmware.com
 
  Shawn Hartsock harts...@acm.org
 
  Subbu subramanian.neelakan...@gmail.com
 
  Vui Lam v...@vmware.com
 
 
 
  From: Doug Hellmann [mailto:doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com]
  Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 4:22 AM
  To: Vipin Balachandran
  Cc: Donald Stufft; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage
  questions)
 
 
  Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] VMware tools in oslo-incubator or
  straight to oslo.vmware
 
 
 
 
 
  On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Vipin Balachandran
  vbalachand...@vmware.com wrote:
 
  This library is highly specific to VMware drivers in OpenStack and not a
  generic VMware API client. As Doug mentioned, this library won't be
 useful
  outside OpenStack. Also, it has some dependencies on openstack.common
 code
  as well. Therefore it makes sense if we make this code as part of OSLO.
 
 
 
  I think we have consensus that, assuming you are committing to API
  stability, this set of code does not need to go through the incubator
 before
  becoming a library. How stable is the current API?
 
 
 
  If it stable and is not going to be useful to anyone outside of
 OpenStack,
  we can create an oslo.vmware library for it. I can start working with
 -infra
  next week to set up the repository.
 
 
 
  We will need someone on your team to be designated as the lead
 maintainer,
  to coordinate with the Oslo PTL for release management issues and bug
  triage. Is that you, Vipin?
 
 
 
  We will also need to have a set of reviewers for the new repository.
 I'll
  add oslo-core, but it will be necessary for a few people familiar with
 the
  code to also be included. If you have anyone from nova or cinder who
 should
  be a reviewer, we can add them, too. Please send me a list of names and
 the
  email addresses used in gerrit so I can add them to the reviewer list
 when
  the repository is created.
 
 
 
  Doug
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  By the way, a work in progress review has been posted for the VMware
  cinder driver integration with the OSLO common code
  (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70108/). The nova integration is
 currently
  under progress.
 
 
 
  Thanks,
 
  Vipin
 
 
 
  From: Doug Hellmann [mailto:doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 4:06 AM
  To: Donald Stufft
  Cc: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions); Vipin
  Balachandran
  Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] VMware tools in oslo-incubator or
  straight to oslo.vmware
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io
 wrote:
 
 
  On Jan 28, 2014, at 5:01 PM, Julien Danjou jul...@danjou.info wrote:
 
   On Tue, Jan 28 2014, Doug Hellmann wrote:
  
   There are several reviews related to adding VMware interface code to
   the
   oslo-incubator so it can be shared among projects (start at
   https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65075/7 if you want to look at the
   code).
  
   I expect this code to be fairly stand-alone, so I wonder if we would
 be
   better off creating an oslo.vmware library from the beginning,
 instead
   of
   bringing it through the incubator.
  
   Thoughts?
  
   This sounds like a good idea, but it doesn't look OpenStack specific,
 so
   maybe building a non-oslo library would be better.
  
   Let's not zope it! :)
 
  +1 on not making it an oslo library.
 
 
 
  Given the number of issues we've seen with stackforge libs in the gate,
  I've changed my default stance on this point.
 
 
 
  It's not clear from the code whether Vipin et al expect this library to
 be
  useful for anyone not working with both OpenStack and VMware. Either
 way, I
  anticipate having the library under the symmetric gating rules and
 managed
  by the one of the OpenStack teams (oslo, nova, cinder?) and 

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] VMware tools in oslo-incubator or straight to oslo.vmware

2014-01-31 Thread Vipin Balachandran
The current API is stable since this is used by nova and cinder for the
last two releases. Yes, I can act as the maintainer.

 

Here is the list of reviewers:

Arnaud Legendre arnaud...@gmail.com

Davanum Srinivas (dims) dava...@gmail.com

garyk gkot...@vmware.com

Kartik Bommepally kbommepa...@vmware.com

Sabari Murugesan smuruge...@vmware.com

Shawn Hartsock harts...@acm.org

Subbu subramanian.neelakan...@gmail.com

Vui Lam v...@vmware.com

 

From: Doug Hellmann [mailto:doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 4:22 AM
To: Vipin Balachandran
Cc: Donald Stufft; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage
questions)
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] VMware tools in oslo-incubator or
straight to oslo.vmware

 

 

On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Vipin Balachandran
vbalachand...@vmware.com wrote:

This library is highly specific to VMware drivers in OpenStack and not a
generic VMware API client. As Doug mentioned, this library won't be useful
outside OpenStack. Also, it has some dependencies on openstack.common code
as well. Therefore it makes sense if we make this code as part of OSLO.

 

I think we have consensus that, assuming you are committing to API
stability, this set of code does not need to go through the incubator
before becoming a library. How stable is the current API?

 

If it stable and is not going to be useful to anyone outside of OpenStack,
we can create an oslo.vmware library for it. I can start working with
-infra next week to set up the repository.

 

We will need someone on your team to be designated as the lead maintainer,
to coordinate with the Oslo PTL for release management issues and bug
triage. Is that you, Vipin?

 

We will also need to have a set of reviewers for the new repository. I'll
add oslo-core, but it will be necessary for a few people familiar with the
code to also be included. If you have anyone from nova or cinder who
should be a reviewer, we can add them, too. Please send me a list of names
and the email addresses used in gerrit so I can add them to the reviewer
list when the repository is created.

 

Doug

 

 

 

By the way, a work in progress review has been posted for the VMware
cinder driver integration with the OSLO common code
(https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70108/). The nova integration is
currently under progress.

 

Thanks,

Vipin

 

From: Doug Hellmann [mailto:doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 4:06 AM
To: Donald Stufft
Cc: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions); Vipin
Balachandran
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] VMware tools in oslo-incubator or
straight to oslo.vmware

 

 

 

On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote:


On Jan 28, 2014, at 5:01 PM, Julien Danjou jul...@danjou.info wrote:

 On Tue, Jan 28 2014, Doug Hellmann wrote:

 There are several reviews related to adding VMware interface code to
the
 oslo-incubator so it can be shared among projects (start at
 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65075/7 if you want to look at the
code).

 I expect this code to be fairly stand-alone, so I wonder if we would be
 better off creating an oslo.vmware library from the beginning, instead
of
 bringing it through the incubator.

 Thoughts?

 This sounds like a good idea, but it doesn't look OpenStack specific, so
 maybe building a non-oslo library would be better.

 Let's not zope it! :)

+1 on not making it an oslo library.

 

Given the number of issues we've seen with stackforge libs in the gate,
I've changed my default stance on this point.

 

It's not clear from the code whether Vipin et al expect this library to be
useful for anyone not working with both OpenStack and VMware. Either way,
I anticipate having the library under the symmetric gating rules and
managed by the one of the OpenStack teams (oslo, nova, cinder?) and VMware
contributors should make life easier in the long run.

 

As far as the actual name goes, I'm not set on oslo.vmware it was just a
convenient name for the conversation.

 

Doug

 

 



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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] VMware tools in oslo-incubator or straight to oslo.vmware

2014-01-31 Thread Doug Hellmann
Thanks, Vipin,

Dims is going work on setting up your repository and help you configure the
review team. Give us a few days to get the details sorted out.

Doug


On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 7:39 AM, Vipin Balachandran 
vbalachand...@vmware.com wrote:

 The current API is stable since this is used by nova and cinder for the
 last two releases. Yes, I can act as the maintainer.



 Here is the list of reviewers:

 Arnaud Legendre arnaud...@gmail.com

 Davanum Srinivas (dims) dava...@gmail.com

 garyk gkot...@vmware.com

 Kartik Bommepally kbommepa...@vmware.com

 Sabari Murugesan smuruge...@vmware.com

 Shawn Hartsock harts...@acm.org

 Subbu subramanian.neelakan...@gmail.com

 Vui Lam v...@vmware.com



 *From:* Doug Hellmann [mailto:doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, January 31, 2014 4:22 AM
 *To:* Vipin Balachandran
 *Cc:* Donald Stufft; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage
 questions)

 *Subject:* Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] VMware tools in oslo-incubator or
 straight to oslo.vmware





 On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Vipin Balachandran 
 vbalachand...@vmware.com wrote:

 This library is highly specific to VMware drivers in OpenStack and not a
 generic VMware API client. As Doug mentioned, this library won't be useful
 outside OpenStack. Also, it has some dependencies on openstack.common code
 as well. Therefore it makes sense if we make this code as part of OSLO.



 I think we have consensus that, assuming you are committing to API
 stability, this set of code does not need to go through the incubator
 before becoming a library. How stable is the current API?



 If it stable and is not going to be useful to anyone outside of OpenStack,
 we can create an oslo.vmware library for it. I can start working with
 -infra next week to set up the repository.



 We will need someone on your team to be designated as the lead maintainer,
 to coordinate with the Oslo PTL for release management issues and bug
 triage. Is that you, Vipin?



 We will also need to have a set of reviewers for the new repository. I'll
 add oslo-core, but it will be necessary for a few people familiar with the
 code to also be included. If you have anyone from nova or cinder who should
 be a reviewer, we can add them, too. Please send me a list of names and the
 email addresses used in gerrit so I can add them to the reviewer list when
 the repository is created.



 Doug







 By the way, a work in progress review has been posted for the VMware
 cinder driver integration with the OSLO common code (
 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70108/). The nova integration is
 currently under progress.



 Thanks,

 Vipin



 *From:* Doug Hellmann [mailto:doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, January 29, 2014 4:06 AM
 *To:* Donald Stufft
 *Cc:* OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions); Vipin
 Balachandran
 *Subject:* Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] VMware tools in oslo-incubator or
 straight to oslo.vmware







 On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote:


 On Jan 28, 2014, at 5:01 PM, Julien Danjou jul...@danjou.info wrote:

  On Tue, Jan 28 2014, Doug Hellmann wrote:
 
  There are several reviews related to adding VMware interface code to the
  oslo-incubator so it can be shared among projects (start at
  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65075/7 if you want to look at the
 code).
 
  I expect this code to be fairly stand-alone, so I wonder if we would be
  better off creating an oslo.vmware library from the beginning, instead
 of
  bringing it through the incubator.
 
  Thoughts?
 
  This sounds like a good idea, but it doesn't look OpenStack specific, so
  maybe building a non-oslo library would be better.
 
  Let's not zope it! :)

 +1 on not making it an oslo library.



 Given the number of issues we've seen with stackforge libs in the gate,
 I've changed my default stance on this point.



 It's not clear from the code whether Vipin et al expect this library to be
 useful for anyone not working with both OpenStack and VMware. Either way, I
 anticipate having the library under the symmetric gating rules and managed
 by the one of the OpenStack teams (oslo, nova, cinder?) and VMware
 contributors should make life easier in the long run.



 As far as the actual name goes, I'm not set on oslo.vmware it was just a
 convenient name for the conversation.



 Doug






 
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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] VMware tools in oslo-incubator or straight to oslo.vmware

2014-01-30 Thread Vipin Balachandran
This library is highly specific to VMware drivers in OpenStack and not a
generic VMware API client. As Doug mentioned, this library won't be useful
outside OpenStack. Also, it has some dependencies on openstack.common code
as well. Therefore it makes sense if we make this code as part of OSLO.

 

By the way, a work in progress review has been posted for the VMware
cinder driver integration with the OSLO common code
(https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70108/). The nova integration is
currently under progress.

 

Thanks,

Vipin

 

From: Doug Hellmann [mailto:doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 4:06 AM
To: Donald Stufft
Cc: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions); Vipin
Balachandran
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] VMware tools in oslo-incubator or
straight to oslo.vmware

 

 

 

On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote:


On Jan 28, 2014, at 5:01 PM, Julien Danjou jul...@danjou.info wrote:

 On Tue, Jan 28 2014, Doug Hellmann wrote:

 There are several reviews related to adding VMware interface code to
the
 oslo-incubator so it can be shared among projects (start at
 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65075/7 if you want to look at the
code).

 I expect this code to be fairly stand-alone, so I wonder if we would be
 better off creating an oslo.vmware library from the beginning, instead
of
 bringing it through the incubator.

 Thoughts?

 This sounds like a good idea, but it doesn't look OpenStack specific, so
 maybe building a non-oslo library would be better.

 Let's not zope it! :)

+1 on not making it an oslo library.

 

Given the number of issues we've seen with stackforge libs in the gate,
I've changed my default stance on this point.

 

It's not clear from the code whether Vipin et al expect this library to be
useful for anyone not working with both OpenStack and VMware. Either way,
I anticipate having the library under the symmetric gating rules and
managed by the one of the OpenStack teams (oslo, nova, cinder?) and VMware
contributors should make life easier in the long run.

 

As far as the actual name goes, I'm not set on oslo.vmware it was just a
convenient name for the conversation.

 

Doug

 

 



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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] VMware tools in oslo-incubator or straight to oslo.vmware

2014-01-30 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Vipin Balachandran 
vbalachand...@vmware.com wrote:

 This library is highly specific to VMware drivers in OpenStack and not a
 generic VMware API client. As Doug mentioned, this library won't be useful
 outside OpenStack. Also, it has some dependencies on openstack.common code
 as well. Therefore it makes sense if we make this code as part of OSLO.


I think we have consensus that, assuming you are committing to API
stability, this set of code does not need to go through the incubator
before becoming a library. How stable is the current API?

If it stable and is not going to be useful to anyone outside of OpenStack,
we can create an oslo.vmware library for it. I can start working with
-infra next week to set up the repository.

We will need someone on your team to be designated as the lead maintainer,
to coordinate with the Oslo PTL for release management issues and bug
triage. Is that you, Vipin?

We will also need to have a set of reviewers for the new repository. I'll
add oslo-core, but it will be necessary for a few people familiar with the
code to also be included. If you have anyone from nova or cinder who should
be a reviewer, we can add them, too. Please send me a list of names and the
email addresses used in gerrit so I can add them to the reviewer list when
the repository is created.

Doug





 By the way, a work in progress review has been posted for the VMware
 cinder driver integration with the OSLO common code (
 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70108/). The nova integration is
 currently under progress.



 Thanks,

 Vipin



 *From:* Doug Hellmann [mailto:doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, January 29, 2014 4:06 AM
 *To:* Donald Stufft
 *Cc:* OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions); Vipin
 Balachandran
 *Subject:* Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] VMware tools in oslo-incubator or
 straight to oslo.vmware







 On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote:


 On Jan 28, 2014, at 5:01 PM, Julien Danjou jul...@danjou.info wrote:

  On Tue, Jan 28 2014, Doug Hellmann wrote:
 
  There are several reviews related to adding VMware interface code to the
  oslo-incubator so it can be shared among projects (start at
  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65075/7 if you want to look at the
 code).
 
  I expect this code to be fairly stand-alone, so I wonder if we would be
  better off creating an oslo.vmware library from the beginning, instead
 of
  bringing it through the incubator.
 
  Thoughts?
 
  This sounds like a good idea, but it doesn't look OpenStack specific, so
  maybe building a non-oslo library would be better.
 
  Let's not zope it! :)

 +1 on not making it an oslo library.



 Given the number of issues we've seen with stackforge libs in the gate,
 I've changed my default stance on this point.



 It's not clear from the code whether Vipin et al expect this library to be
 useful for anyone not working with both OpenStack and VMware. Either way, I
 anticipate having the library under the symmetric gating rules and managed
 by the one of the OpenStack teams (oslo, nova, cinder?) and VMware
 contributors should make life easier in the long run.



 As far as the actual name goes, I'm not set on oslo.vmware it was just a
 convenient name for the conversation.



 Doug






 
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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] VMware tools in oslo-incubator or straight to oslo.vmware

2014-01-30 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Doug,

I can help with shepherding this effort as well.

-- dims

On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 5:51 PM, Doug Hellmann
doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com wrote:

 On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Vipin Balachandran
 vbalachand...@vmware.com wrote:

 This library is highly specific to VMware drivers in OpenStack and not a
 generic VMware API client. As Doug mentioned, this library won't be useful
 outside OpenStack. Also, it has some dependencies on openstack.common code
 as well. Therefore it makes sense if we make this code as part of OSLO.


 I think we have consensus that, assuming you are committing to API
 stability, this set of code does not need to go through the incubator before
 becoming a library. How stable is the current API?

 If it stable and is not going to be useful to anyone outside of OpenStack,
 we can create an oslo.vmware library for it. I can start working with -infra
 next week to set up the repository.

 We will need someone on your team to be designated as the lead maintainer,
 to coordinate with the Oslo PTL for release management issues and bug
 triage. Is that you, Vipin?

 We will also need to have a set of reviewers for the new repository. I'll
 add oslo-core, but it will be necessary for a few people familiar with the
 code to also be included. If you have anyone from nova or cinder who should
 be a reviewer, we can add them, too. Please send me a list of names and the
 email addresses used in gerrit so I can add them to the reviewer list when
 the repository is created.

 Doug





 By the way, a work in progress review has been posted for the VMware
 cinder driver integration with the OSLO common code
 (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/70108/). The nova integration is currently
 under progress.



 Thanks,

 Vipin



 From: Doug Hellmann [mailto:doug.hellm...@dreamhost.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 4:06 AM
 To: Donald Stufft
 Cc: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions); Vipin
 Balachandran
 Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] VMware tools in oslo-incubator or
 straight to oslo.vmware







 On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote:


 On Jan 28, 2014, at 5:01 PM, Julien Danjou jul...@danjou.info wrote:

  On Tue, Jan 28 2014, Doug Hellmann wrote:
 
  There are several reviews related to adding VMware interface code to
  the
  oslo-incubator so it can be shared among projects (start at
  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65075/7 if you want to look at the
  code).
 
  I expect this code to be fairly stand-alone, so I wonder if we would be
  better off creating an oslo.vmware library from the beginning, instead
  of
  bringing it through the incubator.
 
  Thoughts?
 
  This sounds like a good idea, but it doesn't look OpenStack specific, so
  maybe building a non-oslo library would be better.
 
  Let's not zope it! :)

 +1 on not making it an oslo library.



 Given the number of issues we've seen with stackforge libs in the gate,
 I've changed my default stance on this point.



 It's not clear from the code whether Vipin et al expect this library to be
 useful for anyone not working with both OpenStack and VMware. Either way, I
 anticipate having the library under the symmetric gating rules and managed
 by the one of the OpenStack teams (oslo, nova, cinder?) and VMware
 contributors should make life easier in the long run.



 As far as the actual name goes, I'm not set on oslo.vmware it was just a
 convenient name for the conversation.



 Doug






 
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[openstack-dev] [oslo] VMware tools in oslo-incubator or straight to oslo.vmware

2014-01-28 Thread Doug Hellmann
There are several reviews related to adding VMware interface code to the
oslo-incubator so it can be shared among projects (start at
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65075/7 if you want to look at the code).

I expect this code to be fairly stand-alone, so I wonder if we would be
better off creating an oslo.vmware library from the beginning, instead of
bringing it through the incubator.

Thoughts?

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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] VMware tools in oslo-incubator or straight to oslo.vmware

2014-01-28 Thread Donald Stufft

On Jan 28, 2014, at 5:01 PM, Julien Danjou jul...@danjou.info wrote:

 On Tue, Jan 28 2014, Doug Hellmann wrote:
 
 There are several reviews related to adding VMware interface code to the
 oslo-incubator so it can be shared among projects (start at
 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65075/7 if you want to look at the code).
 
 I expect this code to be fairly stand-alone, so I wonder if we would be
 better off creating an oslo.vmware library from the beginning, instead of
 bringing it through the incubator.
 
 Thoughts?
 
 This sounds like a good idea, but it doesn't look OpenStack specific, so
 maybe building a non-oslo library would be better.
 
 Let's not zope it! :)

+1 on not making it an oslo library.

 
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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] VMware tools in oslo-incubator or straight to oslo.vmware

2014-01-28 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote:


 On Jan 28, 2014, at 5:01 PM, Julien Danjou jul...@danjou.info wrote:

  On Tue, Jan 28 2014, Doug Hellmann wrote:
 
  There are several reviews related to adding VMware interface code to the
  oslo-incubator so it can be shared among projects (start at
  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65075/7 if you want to look at the
 code).
 
  I expect this code to be fairly stand-alone, so I wonder if we would be
  better off creating an oslo.vmware library from the beginning, instead
 of
  bringing it through the incubator.
 
  Thoughts?
 
  This sounds like a good idea, but it doesn't look OpenStack specific, so
  maybe building a non-oslo library would be better.
 
  Let's not zope it! :)

 +1 on not making it an oslo library.


Given the number of issues we've seen with stackforge libs in the gate,
I've changed my default stance on this point.

It's not clear from the code whether Vipin et al expect this library to be
useful for anyone not working with both OpenStack and VMware. Either way, I
anticipate having the library under the symmetric gating rules and managed
by the one of the OpenStack teams (oslo, nova, cinder?) and VMware
contributors should make life easier in the long run.

As far as the actual name goes, I'm not set on oslo.vmware it was just a
convenient name for the conversation.

Doug




 
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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] VMware tools in oslo-incubator or straight to oslo.vmware

2014-01-28 Thread Russell Bryant
On 01/28/2014 05:06 PM, Donald Stufft wrote:
 
 On Jan 28, 2014, at 5:01 PM, Julien Danjou jul...@danjou.info
 wrote:
 
 On Tue, Jan 28 2014, Doug Hellmann wrote:
 
 There are several reviews related to adding VMware interface
 code to the oslo-incubator so it can be shared among projects
 (start at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65075/7 if you want
 to look at the code).
 
 I expect this code to be fairly stand-alone, so I wonder if we
 would be better off creating an oslo.vmware library from the
 beginning, instead of bringing it through the incubator.
 
 Thoughts?
 
 This sounds like a good idea, but it doesn't look OpenStack
 specific, so maybe building a non-oslo library would be better.
 
 Let's not zope it! :)
 
 +1 on not making it an oslo library.

Yep, I asked the same thing on IRC a while back.

If this is generally useful Python code for talking to vmware, then
i'd love to just see it as a Python library maintained by vmware,
isntead of making it an OpenStack specific thing.

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Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] VMware tools in oslo-incubator or straight to oslo.vmware

2014-01-28 Thread Rajdeep Dua
It might be more useful to make it a generic library which is used by relevant 
Openstack libraries



On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 3:36 AM, Donald Stufft don...@stufft.io wrote:
 

On Jan 28, 2014, at 5:01 PM, Julien Danjou jul...@danjou.info wrote:

 On Tue, Jan 28 2014, Doug Hellmann wrote:
 
 There are several reviews related to adding VMware interface code to the
 oslo-incubator so it can be shared among projects (start at
 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/65075/7 if you want to look at the code).
 
 I expect this code to be fairly stand-alone, so I wonder if we would be
 better off creating an oslo.vmware library from the beginning, instead of
 bringing it through the incubator.
 
 Thoughts?
 
 This sounds like a good idea, but it doesn't look OpenStack specific, so
 maybe building a non-oslo library would be better.
 
 Let's not zope it! :)

+1 on not making it an oslo library.


 
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