Re: [openstack-dev] [searchlight] Liberty release planning video conference

2015-08-11 Thread Rochelle Grober
Just wanted to point out that if you dig a little in Postman's website, it 
looks like all the base code is on github, and appears to be under the Apache 
license.  I didn't check the jetpacks, but I suspect those might be 
proprietary bits.

  Tripp, Travis S wrote on Monday, August 10, 2015 5:18 PM:
  Hello Anita,

  Thank you for the email and for checking into the Postman open ness! 
There might be some mis-comunication here. Postman is not an official part of 
the project and never will be. Neither will any non-open source code base. As 
mentioned in the IRC logs, I personally like to perform additional manual tests 
of APIs when doing code reviews. I use both curl and also sometimes find the 
Postman browser plugin to be helpful, so was sharing that with others who might 
use it. If you do already have an open source browser plugin that has similar 
functionality I would very much like to take advantage of it for my personal 
testing, because you are certainly right that we don’t want to seem as thought 
we are endorsing non-open tool sets!

  Thank you!
  Travis



  On 8/10/15, 5:34 PM, Anita Kuno ante...@anteaya.info wrote:

  On 08/10/2015 06:28 PM, Tripp, Travis S wrote:
   At our last weekly IRC meeting we decided that we should have a short 
video conference meetup to talk about the Liberty 3 release. The purpose will 
be to walk through the Liberty Blueprints / Bugs and finalize the list for 
Liberty 3. I promised to create a doodle poll for choosing the time, so here it 
is:
  
   http://doodle.com/99kzigdbmed57g7s
  
   Please note, one time I set is the same time as the normal IRC 
meeting.  If that is what works best for everybody, we’ll start the IRC meeting 
normally, but share a video link in the meeting room for people to join.
   
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  Hello:
  
  Part of being an OpenStack project listed in the governance repo, as you
  are [0], is agreeing to conduct your business in an open manner. Had you
  not done so prior to now I would not have known that you are using
  Postman for testing [1], as you linked in your meeting log [2]. If
  Postman is open source licensed I couldn't find it in their
  documentation [3].
  
  Now I'm certainly not going to waste my time telling you how you should
  operate your project. I am simply going to take the time to tell you
  that currently your tool choices aren't in keeping with the 4 opens [4].
  If this is by design, power to you, and please don't let me hold you 
back.
  
  If this is by accident and you really do want to ensure you stay an
  OpenStack project, do reach out to a member of the technical committee
  as I feel you could benefit from some tool choice and workflow guidance.
  
  Thank you,
  Anita.
  
  
  [0]
  
http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/reference/projects.yaml#n2011
  [1] https://www.getpostman.com/collections/8c0b1e05875c7c58e967
  [2]
  
http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2015/openstack_search.2015-08-06-15.01.log.html
  [3] https://www.getpostman.com/docs
  [4]
  
http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/reference/new-projects-requirements.rst#n17
  
  
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[openstack-dev] [searchlight] Liberty release planning video conference

2015-08-10 Thread Tripp, Travis S
At our last weekly IRC meeting we decided that we should have a short video 
conference meetup to talk about the Liberty 3 release. The purpose will be to 
walk through the Liberty Blueprints / Bugs and finalize the list for Liberty 3. 
I promised to create a doodle poll for choosing the time, so here it is:

http://doodle.com/99kzigdbmed57g7s

Please note, one time I set is the same time as the normal IRC meeting.  If 
that is what works best for everybody, we’ll start the IRC meeting normally, 
but share a video link in the meeting room for people to join.
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Re: [openstack-dev] [searchlight] Liberty release planning video conference

2015-08-10 Thread Anita Kuno
On 08/10/2015 06:28 PM, Tripp, Travis S wrote:
 At our last weekly IRC meeting we decided that we should have a short video 
 conference meetup to talk about the Liberty 3 release. The purpose will be to 
 walk through the Liberty Blueprints / Bugs and finalize the list for Liberty 
 3. I promised to create a doodle poll for choosing the time, so here it is:
 
 http://doodle.com/99kzigdbmed57g7s
 
 Please note, one time I set is the same time as the normal IRC meeting.  If 
 that is what works best for everybody, we’ll start the IRC meeting normally, 
 but share a video link in the meeting room for people to join.
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Hello:

Part of being an OpenStack project listed in the governance repo, as you
are [0], is agreeing to conduct your business in an open manner. Had you
not done so prior to now I would not have known that you are using
Postman for testing [1], as you linked in your meeting log [2]. If
Postman is open source licensed I couldn't find it in their
documentation [3].

Now I'm certainly not going to waste my time telling you how you should
operate your project. I am simply going to take the time to tell you
that currently your tool choices aren't in keeping with the 4 opens [4].
If this is by design, power to you, and please don't let me hold you back.

If this is by accident and you really do want to ensure you stay an
OpenStack project, do reach out to a member of the technical committee
as I feel you could benefit from some tool choice and workflow guidance.

Thank you,
Anita.


[0]
http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/reference/projects.yaml#n2011
[1] https://www.getpostman.com/collections/8c0b1e05875c7c58e967
[2]
http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2015/openstack_search.2015-08-06-15.01.log.html
[3] https://www.getpostman.com/docs
[4]
http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/reference/new-projects-requirements.rst#n17

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Re: [openstack-dev] [searchlight] Liberty release planning video conference

2015-08-10 Thread Tripp, Travis S
Hello Anita,

Thank you for the email and for checking into the Postman open ness! There 
might be some mis-comunication here. Postman is not an official part of the 
project and never will be. Neither will any non-open source code base. As 
mentioned in the IRC logs, I personally like to perform additional manual tests 
of APIs when doing code reviews. I use both curl and also sometimes find the 
Postman browser plugin to be helpful, so was sharing that with others who might 
use it. If you do already have an open source browser plugin that has similar 
functionality I would very much like to take advantage of it for my personal 
testing, because you are certainly right that we don’t want to seem as thought 
we are endorsing non-open tool sets!

Thank you!
Travis



On 8/10/15, 5:34 PM, Anita Kuno ante...@anteaya.info wrote:

On 08/10/2015 06:28 PM, Tripp, Travis S wrote:
 At our last weekly IRC meeting we decided that we should have a short video 
 conference meetup to talk about the Liberty 3 release. The purpose will be 
 to walk through the Liberty Blueprints / Bugs and finalize the list for 
 Liberty 3. I promised to create a doodle poll for choosing the time, so here 
 it is:
 
 http://doodle.com/99kzigdbmed57g7s
 
 Please note, one time I set is the same time as the normal IRC meeting.  If 
 that is what works best for everybody, we’ll start the IRC meeting normally, 
 but share a video link in the meeting room for people to join.
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Hello:

Part of being an OpenStack project listed in the governance repo, as you
are [0], is agreeing to conduct your business in an open manner. Had you
not done so prior to now I would not have known that you are using
Postman for testing [1], as you linked in your meeting log [2]. If
Postman is open source licensed I couldn't find it in their
documentation [3].

Now I'm certainly not going to waste my time telling you how you should
operate your project. I am simply going to take the time to tell you
that currently your tool choices aren't in keeping with the 4 opens [4].
If this is by design, power to you, and please don't let me hold you back.

If this is by accident and you really do want to ensure you stay an
OpenStack project, do reach out to a member of the technical committee
as I feel you could benefit from some tool choice and workflow guidance.

Thank you,
Anita.


[0]
http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/reference/projects.yaml#n2011
[1] https://www.getpostman.com/collections/8c0b1e05875c7c58e967
[2]
http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_search/2015/openstack_search.2015-08-06-15.01.log.html
[3] https://www.getpostman.com/docs
[4]
http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/reference/new-projects-requirements.rst#n17

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