Re: [openstack-dev] Are we ready to put stable/ocata into extended maintenance mode?

2018-09-28 Thread Matt Riedemann

On 9/21/2018 9:08 AM, Elõd Illés wrote:

Hi,

Here is an etherpad with the teams that have stable:follow-policy tag on 
their repos:


https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-final-release-before-em

On the links you can find reports about the open and unreleased changes, 
that could be a useful input for the before-EM/final release.
Please have a look at the report (and review the open patches if there 
are) so that a release can be made if necessary.


Thanks,

Előd


I've added nova's ocata-em tracking etherpad to the list.

https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-ocata-em

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Re: [openstack-dev] Are we ready to put stable/ocata into extended maintenance mode?

2018-09-21 Thread Sean McGinnis
On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 08:26:41AM -0600, Doug Hellmann wrote:
> Excerpts from Elõd Illés's message of 2018-09-21 16:08:28 +0200:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Here is an etherpad with the teams that have stable:follow-policy tag on 
> > their repos:
> > 
> > https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-final-release-before-em
> > 
> > On the links you can find reports about the open and unreleased changes, 
> > that could be a useful input for the before-EM/final release.
> > Please have a look at the report (and review the open patches if there 
> > are) so that a release can be made if necessary.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Előd
> 
> Thanks for pulling all of this information together!
> 
> Doug
> 

Really useful information Előd - thanks for getting that put together!

Sean

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Re: [openstack-dev] Are we ready to put stable/ocata into extended maintenance mode?

2018-09-21 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Elõd Illés's message of 2018-09-21 16:08:28 +0200:
> Hi,
> 
> Here is an etherpad with the teams that have stable:follow-policy tag on 
> their repos:
> 
> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-final-release-before-em
> 
> On the links you can find reports about the open and unreleased changes, 
> that could be a useful input for the before-EM/final release.
> Please have a look at the report (and review the open patches if there 
> are) so that a release can be made if necessary.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Előd

Thanks for pulling all of this information together!

Doug

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Re: [openstack-dev] Are we ready to put stable/ocata into extended maintenance mode?

2018-09-21 Thread Elõd Illés

Hi,

Here is an etherpad with the teams that have stable:follow-policy tag on 
their repos:


https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-final-release-before-em

On the links you can find reports about the open and unreleased changes, 
that could be a useful input for the before-EM/final release.
Please have a look at the report (and review the open patches if there 
are) so that a release can be made if necessary.


Thanks,

Előd


On 2018-09-21 00:53, Matt Riedemann wrote:

On 9/20/2018 12:08 PM, Elõd Illés wrote:

Hi Matt,

About 1.: I think it is a good idea to cut a final release 
(especially as some vendor/operator would be glad even if there would 
be some release in Extended Maintenance, too, what most probably 
won't happen...) -- saying that without knowing how much of a burden 
would it be for projects to do this final release...
After that it sounds reasonably to tag the branches EM (as it is 
written in the mentioned resolution).


Do you have any plan about how to coordinate the 'final releases' and 
do the EM-tagging?


Thanks for raising these questions!

Cheers,

Előd


For anyone following along and that cares about this (hopefully PTLs), 
Előd, Doug, Sean and I formulated a plan in IRC today [1].


[1] 
http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-stable/%23openstack-stable.2018-09-20.log.html#t2018-09-20T17:10:56






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Re: [openstack-dev] Are we ready to put stable/ocata into extended maintenance mode?

2018-09-20 Thread Matt Riedemann

On 9/20/2018 12:08 PM, Elõd Illés wrote:

Hi Matt,

About 1.: I think it is a good idea to cut a final release (especially 
as some vendor/operator would be glad even if there would be some 
release in Extended Maintenance, too, what most probably won't 
happen...) -- saying that without knowing how much of a burden would it 
be for projects to do this final release...
After that it sounds reasonably to tag the branches EM (as it is written 
in the mentioned resolution).


Do you have any plan about how to coordinate the 'final releases' and do 
the EM-tagging?


Thanks for raising these questions!

Cheers,

Előd


For anyone following along and that cares about this (hopefully PTLs), 
Előd, Doug, Sean and I formulated a plan in IRC today [1].


[1] 
http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-stable/%23openstack-stable.2018-09-20.log.html#t2018-09-20T17:10:56


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Re: [openstack-dev] Are we ready to put stable/ocata into extended maintenance mode?

2018-09-20 Thread Elõd Illés

Hi Matt,

About 1.: I think it is a good idea to cut a final release (especially 
as some vendor/operator would be glad even if there would be some 
release in Extended Maintenance, too, what most probably won't 
happen...) -- saying that without knowing how much of a burden would it 
be for projects to do this final release...
After that it sounds reasonably to tag the branches EM (as it is written 
in the mentioned resolution).


Do you have any plan about how to coordinate the 'final releases' and do 
the EM-tagging?


Thanks for raising these questions!

Cheers,

Előd


On 2018-09-18 21:27, Matt Riedemann wrote:
The release page says Ocata is planned to go into extended maintenance 
mode on Aug 27 [1]. There really isn't much to this except it means we 
don't do releases for Ocata anymore [2]. There is a caveat that 
project teams that do not wish to maintain stable/ocata after this 
point can immediately end of life the branch for their project [3]. We 
can still run CI using tags, e.g. if keystone goes ocata-eol, devstack 
on stable/ocata can still continue to install from stable/ocata for 
nova and the ocata-eol tag for keystone. Having said that, if there is 
no undue burden on the project team keeping the lights on for 
stable/ocata, I would recommend not tagging the stable/ocata branch 
end of life at this point.


So, questions that need answering are:

1. Should we cut a final release for projects with stable/ocata 
branches before going into extended maintenance mode? I tend to think 
"yes" to flush the queue of backports. In fact, [3] doesn't mention 
it, but the resolution said we'd tag the branch [4] to indicate it has 
entered the EM phase.


2. Are there any projects that would want to skip EM and go directly 
to EOL (yes this feels like a Monopoly question)?


[1] https://releases.openstack.org/
[2] 
https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html#maintenance-phases
[3] 
https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html#extended-maintenance
[4] 
https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20180301-stable-branch-eol.html#end-of-life






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Re: [openstack-dev] Are we ready to put stable/ocata into extended maintenance mode?

2018-09-18 Thread Alex Schultz
On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Matt Riedemann  wrote:
> The release page says Ocata is planned to go into extended maintenance mode
> on Aug 27 [1]. There really isn't much to this except it means we don't do
> releases for Ocata anymore [2]. There is a caveat that project teams that do
> not wish to maintain stable/ocata after this point can immediately end of
> life the branch for their project [3]. We can still run CI using tags, e.g.
> if keystone goes ocata-eol, devstack on stable/ocata can still continue to
> install from stable/ocata for nova and the ocata-eol tag for keystone.
> Having said that, if there is no undue burden on the project team keeping
> the lights on for stable/ocata, I would recommend not tagging the
> stable/ocata branch end of life at this point.
>
> So, questions that need answering are:
>
> 1. Should we cut a final release for projects with stable/ocata branches
> before going into extended maintenance mode? I tend to think "yes" to flush
> the queue of backports. In fact, [3] doesn't mention it, but the resolution
> said we'd tag the branch [4] to indicate it has entered the EM phase.
>
> 2. Are there any projects that would want to skip EM and go directly to EOL
> (yes this feels like a Monopoly question)?
>

I believe TripleO would like to EOL instead of EM for Ocata as
indicated by the thead
http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-September/134671.html

Thanks,
-Alex

> [1] https://releases.openstack.org/
> [2]
> https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html#maintenance-phases
> [3]
> https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html#extended-maintenance
> [4]
> https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20180301-stable-branch-eol.html#end-of-life
>
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> Thanks,
>
> Matt
>
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[openstack-dev] Are we ready to put stable/ocata into extended maintenance mode?

2018-09-18 Thread Matt Riedemann
The release page says Ocata is planned to go into extended maintenance 
mode on Aug 27 [1]. There really isn't much to this except it means we 
don't do releases for Ocata anymore [2]. There is a caveat that project 
teams that do not wish to maintain stable/ocata after this point can 
immediately end of life the branch for their project [3]. We can still 
run CI using tags, e.g. if keystone goes ocata-eol, devstack on 
stable/ocata can still continue to install from stable/ocata for nova 
and the ocata-eol tag for keystone. Having said that, if there is no 
undue burden on the project team keeping the lights on for stable/ocata, 
I would recommend not tagging the stable/ocata branch end of life at 
this point.


So, questions that need answering are:

1. Should we cut a final release for projects with stable/ocata branches 
before going into extended maintenance mode? I tend to think "yes" to 
flush the queue of backports. In fact, [3] doesn't mention it, but the 
resolution said we'd tag the branch [4] to indicate it has entered the 
EM phase.


2. Are there any projects that would want to skip EM and go directly to 
EOL (yes this feels like a Monopoly question)?


[1] https://releases.openstack.org/
[2] 
https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html#maintenance-phases
[3] 
https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html#extended-maintenance
[4] 
https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20180301-stable-branch-eol.html#end-of-life


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