Re: [openstack-dev] Minimum version of shred in our supported distros?

2017-08-21 Thread Michael Still
But to do that I'd have to learn how to use git and then you wouldn't be
forced to take the 17 unrelated patches!

You see where I'm going with this right?

An alternative would be to move it to the start of that series before the
-2 of doom.

Michael

On 22 Aug. 2017 2:55 am, "Matt Riedemann"  wrote:

> On 8/20/2017 1:11 AM, Michael Still wrote:
>
>> Specifically we could do something like this:
>> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/495532
>>
>
> Sounds like we're OK with doing this in Queens given the other discussion
> in this thread. However, this is part of a much larger series. It looks
> like it doesn't need to be though, so could you split this out and we could
> just merge it on it's own?
>
> --
>
> Thanks,
>
> Matt
>
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Re: [openstack-dev] Minimum version of shred in our supported distros?

2017-08-21 Thread Matt Riedemann

On 8/20/2017 1:11 AM, Michael Still wrote:
Specifically we could do something like this: 
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/495532


Sounds like we're OK with doing this in Queens given the other 
discussion in this thread. However, this is part of a much larger 
series. It looks like it doesn't need to be though, so could you split 
this out and we could just merge it on it's own?


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Thanks,

Matt

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Re: [openstack-dev] Minimum version of shred in our supported distros?

2017-08-20 Thread Thomas Bechtold

Hey,

On 21.08.2017 02:59, Tony Breeds wrote:

On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 10:40:31AM +1000, Michael Still wrote:

If there's really only one distro which hasn't updated, I'd also be
inclined to try and push them to update before they move to Queens. Surely
that's a thing we can ask them nicely to do?


It might also be that SLES-11 isn't a thing we need to care about[1] and
SLES-12 is fine.  I guess give it a few days to give the SLES folks a
chance to chime in.


We do not need to care about SLE11. And SLE12 and openSUSE-Leap-42 all 
have coreutils > 8.22 .


Cheers,

Tom

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Re: [openstack-dev] Minimum version of shred in our supported distros?

2017-08-20 Thread Tony Breeds
On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 10:40:31AM +1000, Michael Still wrote:
> If there's really only one distro which hasn't updated, I'd also be
> inclined to try and push them to update before they move to Queens. Surely
> that's a thing we can ask them nicely to do?

It might also be that SLES-11 isn't a thing we need to care about[1] and
SLES-12 is fine.  I guess give it a few days to give the SLES folks a
chance to chime in.

Yours Tony.

[1] In the same way that we don't track RHEL-6


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Re: [openstack-dev] Minimum version of shred in our supported distros?

2017-08-20 Thread Matthew Thode
On 17-08-21 10:20:11, Tony Breeds wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 03:43:22PM +1000, Michael Still wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > nova.virt.libvirt.storage.lvm.clear_volume() has a comment that we could
> > use shred to zero out volumes efficiently if we could assume that shred
> > 8.22 was in all our downstream distros [1]. shred 8.22 shipped in 2013 [2].
> > 
> > Can we assume that thing now? xenial appears to ship with 8.25 for example.
> > If so, we could drop a reasonably complicated caller of dd, and it would
> > make moving to privsep a tiny bit easier.
> 
> To find this out is part science and part guesswork.
> 
> Starting with:
> https://github.com/openstack/requirements#finding-distro-status
> 
> I get the following:
> 
> Xenial: [ 8.25 ]
>  
> https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=coreutils&searchon=names&suite=xenial-updates§ion=all
> Fedora: [ 8.27 ]
>  https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/coreutils

Stable on gentoo is 8.25 though, but that still matches xenial.

> Gentoo: [ 8.27 ] 
>  https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/sys-apps/coreutils
> RHEL7 - Centos 7: [ 8.22 ]
>  
> http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7/os/x86_64/Packages/coreutils-8.22-18.el7.x86_64.rpm
> opensuse: [ No idea ]
>  https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/Base:System/coreutils
>  But pages like:
>  https://www.suse.com/support/update/announcement/2013/suse-ru-20130546-1.html
>  imply that 8.12 is still a thing in SLES-11
> 
> So while we support SLES 11 I don't think we can make that assumption.
> Which of course begs the follow-up question which distros do we care
> about.
> 
> Yours Tony.



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Re: [openstack-dev] Minimum version of shred in our supported distros?

2017-08-20 Thread Michael Still
If there's really only one distro which hasn't updated, I'd also be
inclined to try and push them to update before they move to Queens. Surely
that's a thing we can ask them nicely to do?

Michael

On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 10:20 AM, Tony Breeds 
wrote:

> On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 03:43:22PM +1000, Michael Still wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > nova.virt.libvirt.storage.lvm.clear_volume() has a comment that we could
> > use shred to zero out volumes efficiently if we could assume that shred
> > 8.22 was in all our downstream distros [1]. shred 8.22 shipped in 2013
> [2].
> >
> > Can we assume that thing now? xenial appears to ship with 8.25 for
> example.
> > If so, we could drop a reasonably complicated caller of dd, and it would
> > make moving to privsep a tiny bit easier.
>
> To find this out is part science and part guesswork.
>
> Starting with:
> https://github.com/openstack/requirements#finding-distro-status
>
> I get the following:
>
> Xenial: [ 8.25 ]
>  https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=coreutils&;
> searchon=names&suite=xenial-updates§ion=all
> Fedora: [ 8.27 ]
>  https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/coreutils
> Gentoo: [ 8.27 ]
>  https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/sys-apps/coreutils
> RHEL7 - Centos 7: [ 8.22 ]
>  http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7/os/x86_64/Packages/
> coreutils-8.22-18.el7.x86_64.rpm
> opensuse: [ No idea ]
>  https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/Base:System/coreutils
>  But pages like:
>  https://www.suse.com/support/update/announcement/2013/suse-
> ru-20130546-1.html
>  imply that 8.12 is still a thing in SLES-11
>
> So while we support SLES 11 I don't think we can make that assumption.
> Which of course begs the follow-up question which distros do we care
> about.
>
> Yours Tony.
>
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Re: [openstack-dev] Minimum version of shred in our supported distros?

2017-08-20 Thread Tony Breeds
On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 03:43:22PM +1000, Michael Still wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> nova.virt.libvirt.storage.lvm.clear_volume() has a comment that we could
> use shred to zero out volumes efficiently if we could assume that shred
> 8.22 was in all our downstream distros [1]. shred 8.22 shipped in 2013 [2].
> 
> Can we assume that thing now? xenial appears to ship with 8.25 for example.
> If so, we could drop a reasonably complicated caller of dd, and it would
> make moving to privsep a tiny bit easier.

To find this out is part science and part guesswork.

Starting with:
https://github.com/openstack/requirements#finding-distro-status

I get the following:

Xenial: [ 8.25 ]
 
https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=coreutils&searchon=names&suite=xenial-updates§ion=all
Fedora: [ 8.27 ]
 https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/coreutils
Gentoo: [ 8.27 ] 
 https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/sys-apps/coreutils
RHEL7 - Centos 7: [ 8.22 ]
 
http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7/os/x86_64/Packages/coreutils-8.22-18.el7.x86_64.rpm
opensuse: [ No idea ]
 https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/Base:System/coreutils
 But pages like:
 https://www.suse.com/support/update/announcement/2013/suse-ru-20130546-1.html
 imply that 8.12 is still a thing in SLES-11

So while we support SLES 11 I don't think we can make that assumption.
Which of course begs the follow-up question which distros do we care
about.

Yours Tony.


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Re: [openstack-dev] Minimum version of shred in our supported distros?

2017-08-19 Thread Michael Still
Specifically we could do something like this:
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/495532

Michael

On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Michael Still  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> nova.virt.libvirt.storage.lvm.clear_volume() has a comment that we could
> use shred to zero out volumes efficiently if we could assume that shred
> 8.22 was in all our downstream distros [1]. shred 8.22 shipped in 2013 [2].
>
> Can we assume that thing now? xenial appears to ship with 8.25 for
> example. If so, we could drop a reasonably complicated caller of dd, and it
> would make moving to privsep a tiny bit easier.
>
> Thanks,
> Michael
>
>
> 1: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/nova/
> virt/libvirt/storage/lvm.py#n219
> 2: http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=7815
>
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[openstack-dev] Minimum version of shred in our supported distros?

2017-08-19 Thread Michael Still
Hi,

nova.virt.libvirt.storage.lvm.clear_volume() has a comment that we could
use shred to zero out volumes efficiently if we could assume that shred
8.22 was in all our downstream distros [1]. shred 8.22 shipped in 2013 [2].

Can we assume that thing now? xenial appears to ship with 8.25 for example.
If so, we could drop a reasonably complicated caller of dd, and it would
make moving to privsep a tiny bit easier.

Thanks,
Michael


1:
https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/nova/virt/libvirt/storage/lvm.py#n219
2: http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=7815
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