Re: [openstack-dev] Minimum version of shred in our supported distros?
But to do that I'd have to learn how to use git and then you wouldn't be forced to take the 17 unrelated patches! You see where I'm going with this right? An alternative would be to move it to the start of that series before the -2 of doom. Michael On 22 Aug. 2017 2:55 am, "Matt Riedemann" wrote: > On 8/20/2017 1:11 AM, Michael Still wrote: > >> Specifically we could do something like this: >> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/495532 >> > > Sounds like we're OK with doing this in Queens given the other discussion > in this thread. However, this is part of a much larger series. It looks > like it doesn't need to be though, so could you split this out and we could > just merge it on it's own? > > -- > > Thanks, > > Matt > > __ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Minimum version of shred in our supported distros?
On 8/20/2017 1:11 AM, Michael Still wrote: Specifically we could do something like this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/495532 Sounds like we're OK with doing this in Queens given the other discussion in this thread. However, this is part of a much larger series. It looks like it doesn't need to be though, so could you split this out and we could just merge it on it's own? -- Thanks, Matt __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Minimum version of shred in our supported distros?
Hey, On 21.08.2017 02:59, Tony Breeds wrote: On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 10:40:31AM +1000, Michael Still wrote: If there's really only one distro which hasn't updated, I'd also be inclined to try and push them to update before they move to Queens. Surely that's a thing we can ask them nicely to do? It might also be that SLES-11 isn't a thing we need to care about[1] and SLES-12 is fine. I guess give it a few days to give the SLES folks a chance to chime in. We do not need to care about SLE11. And SLE12 and openSUSE-Leap-42 all have coreutils > 8.22 . Cheers, Tom __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Minimum version of shred in our supported distros?
On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 10:40:31AM +1000, Michael Still wrote: > If there's really only one distro which hasn't updated, I'd also be > inclined to try and push them to update before they move to Queens. Surely > that's a thing we can ask them nicely to do? It might also be that SLES-11 isn't a thing we need to care about[1] and SLES-12 is fine. I guess give it a few days to give the SLES folks a chance to chime in. Yours Tony. [1] In the same way that we don't track RHEL-6 signature.asc Description: PGP signature __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Minimum version of shred in our supported distros?
On 17-08-21 10:20:11, Tony Breeds wrote: > On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 03:43:22PM +1000, Michael Still wrote: > > Hi, > > > > nova.virt.libvirt.storage.lvm.clear_volume() has a comment that we could > > use shred to zero out volumes efficiently if we could assume that shred > > 8.22 was in all our downstream distros [1]. shred 8.22 shipped in 2013 [2]. > > > > Can we assume that thing now? xenial appears to ship with 8.25 for example. > > If so, we could drop a reasonably complicated caller of dd, and it would > > make moving to privsep a tiny bit easier. > > To find this out is part science and part guesswork. > > Starting with: > https://github.com/openstack/requirements#finding-distro-status > > I get the following: > > Xenial: [ 8.25 ] > > https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=coreutils&searchon=names&suite=xenial-updates§ion=all > Fedora: [ 8.27 ] > https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/coreutils Stable on gentoo is 8.25 though, but that still matches xenial. > Gentoo: [ 8.27 ] > https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/sys-apps/coreutils > RHEL7 - Centos 7: [ 8.22 ] > > http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7/os/x86_64/Packages/coreutils-8.22-18.el7.x86_64.rpm > opensuse: [ No idea ] > https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/Base:System/coreutils > But pages like: > https://www.suse.com/support/update/announcement/2013/suse-ru-20130546-1.html > imply that 8.12 is still a thing in SLES-11 > > So while we support SLES 11 I don't think we can make that assumption. > Which of course begs the follow-up question which distros do we care > about. > > Yours Tony. > __ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev -- Matthew Thode (prometheanfire) signature.asc Description: PGP signature __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Minimum version of shred in our supported distros?
If there's really only one distro which hasn't updated, I'd also be inclined to try and push them to update before they move to Queens. Surely that's a thing we can ask them nicely to do? Michael On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 10:20 AM, Tony Breeds wrote: > On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 03:43:22PM +1000, Michael Still wrote: > > Hi, > > > > nova.virt.libvirt.storage.lvm.clear_volume() has a comment that we could > > use shred to zero out volumes efficiently if we could assume that shred > > 8.22 was in all our downstream distros [1]. shred 8.22 shipped in 2013 > [2]. > > > > Can we assume that thing now? xenial appears to ship with 8.25 for > example. > > If so, we could drop a reasonably complicated caller of dd, and it would > > make moving to privsep a tiny bit easier. > > To find this out is part science and part guesswork. > > Starting with: > https://github.com/openstack/requirements#finding-distro-status > > I get the following: > > Xenial: [ 8.25 ] > https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=coreutils&; > searchon=names&suite=xenial-updates§ion=all > Fedora: [ 8.27 ] > https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/coreutils > Gentoo: [ 8.27 ] > https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/sys-apps/coreutils > RHEL7 - Centos 7: [ 8.22 ] > http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7/os/x86_64/Packages/ > coreutils-8.22-18.el7.x86_64.rpm > opensuse: [ No idea ] > https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/Base:System/coreutils > But pages like: > https://www.suse.com/support/update/announcement/2013/suse- > ru-20130546-1.html > imply that 8.12 is still a thing in SLES-11 > > So while we support SLES 11 I don't think we can make that assumption. > Which of course begs the follow-up question which distros do we care > about. > > Yours Tony. > > __ > OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Minimum version of shred in our supported distros?
On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 03:43:22PM +1000, Michael Still wrote: > Hi, > > nova.virt.libvirt.storage.lvm.clear_volume() has a comment that we could > use shred to zero out volumes efficiently if we could assume that shred > 8.22 was in all our downstream distros [1]. shred 8.22 shipped in 2013 [2]. > > Can we assume that thing now? xenial appears to ship with 8.25 for example. > If so, we could drop a reasonably complicated caller of dd, and it would > make moving to privsep a tiny bit easier. To find this out is part science and part guesswork. Starting with: https://github.com/openstack/requirements#finding-distro-status I get the following: Xenial: [ 8.25 ] https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=coreutils&searchon=names&suite=xenial-updates§ion=all Fedora: [ 8.27 ] https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/coreutils Gentoo: [ 8.27 ] https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/sys-apps/coreutils RHEL7 - Centos 7: [ 8.22 ] http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7/os/x86_64/Packages/coreutils-8.22-18.el7.x86_64.rpm opensuse: [ No idea ] https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/Base:System/coreutils But pages like: https://www.suse.com/support/update/announcement/2013/suse-ru-20130546-1.html imply that 8.12 is still a thing in SLES-11 So while we support SLES 11 I don't think we can make that assumption. Which of course begs the follow-up question which distros do we care about. Yours Tony. signature.asc Description: PGP signature __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] Minimum version of shred in our supported distros?
Specifically we could do something like this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/495532 Michael On Sun, Aug 20, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Michael Still wrote: > Hi, > > nova.virt.libvirt.storage.lvm.clear_volume() has a comment that we could > use shred to zero out volumes efficiently if we could assume that shred > 8.22 was in all our downstream distros [1]. shred 8.22 shipped in 2013 [2]. > > Can we assume that thing now? xenial appears to ship with 8.25 for > example. If so, we could drop a reasonably complicated caller of dd, and it > would make moving to privsep a tiny bit easier. > > Thanks, > Michael > > > 1: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/nova/ > virt/libvirt/storage/lvm.py#n219 > 2: http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=7815 > __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
[openstack-dev] Minimum version of shred in our supported distros?
Hi, nova.virt.libvirt.storage.lvm.clear_volume() has a comment that we could use shred to zero out volumes efficiently if we could assume that shred 8.22 was in all our downstream distros [1]. shred 8.22 shipped in 2013 [2]. Can we assume that thing now? xenial appears to ship with 8.25 for example. If so, we could drop a reasonably complicated caller of dd, and it would make moving to privsep a tiny bit easier. Thanks, Michael 1: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tree/nova/virt/libvirt/storage/lvm.py#n219 2: http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=7815 __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe: openstack-dev-requ...@lists.openstack.org?subject:unsubscribe http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev