Re: [openstack-dev] NFV in OpenStack use cases and context
Hi Sylvain, The Smart Scheduler work should work along withGantt easily, as it is just another scheduler driver, instead of using the Filters, it will have a separate mechanism of solving the placement problem all at once. So just like how it currently works along with Nova scheduler, it should easily be integrated into Gantt, is what I would imagine. I have not looked very closely at the Gantt work, but I assume if you claim, no behavior changes in Gantt, and if you are continuing to use FilterScheduler, SmartScheduler should fit in too. I will try to update the nova-spec ([1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96543/) for Smart Scheduler, and let the review continue sometime soon. Thanks, Yathi. On 6/13/14, 12:37 AM, Sylvain Bauza sba...@redhat.com wrote: Hi Yathi, Le 12/06/2014 20:53, Yathiraj Udupi (yudupi) a écrit : Hi Alan, Our Smart (Solver) Scheduler blueprint (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/solver-scheduler ) has been in the works in the Nova community since late 2013. We have demoed at the Hong Kong summit, as well as the Atlanta summit, use cases using this smart scheduler for better, optimized resource placement with complex constrained scenarios. So to let you know this work was started as a smart way of doing scheduling, applicable in general and not limited to NFV. Currently we feel NFV is a killer app for driving this blueprint and work ahead, however is applicable for all kinds of resource placement scenarios. We will be very interested in finding out more about your blueprints that you are referring to here, and see how it can be integrated as part of our future roadmap. Indeed, Smart Scheduler is something that could help NFV use-cases. My only concern is about the necessary steps for providing such a feature, with regards to the scheduler breakout that is coming. Could you please make sure the current nova-spec [1] is taking in account all other efforts about the scheduler, like scheduler forklift [2], on-demand resource reporting [3] or others ? It also seems the spec is not following the defined template, could you please fix it ? It would be easier to review your proposal. Gantt and Nova scheduler teams are attending a weekly meeting every Tuesday at 3pm UTC. Would you have a chance to join, it would be great to discuss about your proposal and how we can identify all the milestones for this and potentially track progress on it. Thanks, -Sylvain [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/96543/ [2] https://review.openstack.org/82133 and https://review.openstack.org/89893 [3] https://review.openstack.org/97903 Thanks, Yathi. On 6/12/14, 10:55 AM, Alan Kavanagh alan.kavan...@ericsson.com wrote: Hi Ramki Really like the smart scheduler idea, we made a couple of blueprints that are related to ensuring you have the right information to build a constrained based scheduler. I do however want to point out that this is not NFV specific but is useful for all applications and services of which NFV is one. /Alan -Original Message- From: ramki Krishnan [mailto:r...@brocade.com] Sent: June-10-14 6:06 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux; Norival Figueira Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] NFV in OpenStack use cases and context Hi Steve, Forgot to mention, the Smart Scheduler (Solver Scheduler) enhancements for NFV: Use Cases, Constraints etc. is a good example of an NFV use case deep dive for OpenStack. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=https://docs.google.com/docum en t/d/1k60BQXOMkZS0SIxpFOppGgYp416uXcJVkAFep3Oeju8/edit%23heading%3Dh.wlbc la gujw8ck=oIvRg1%2BdGAgOoM1BIlLLqw%3D%3D%0Ar=%2FZ35AkRhp2kCW4Q3MPeE%2BxY 2b qaf%2FKm29ZfiqAKXxeo%3D%0Am=vTulCeloS8Hc59%2FeAOd32Ri4eqbNqVE%2FeMgNRzG Zn z4%3D%0As=836991d6daab66b519de3b670db8af001144ddb20e636665b395597aa1185 38 f Thanks, Ramki -Original Message- From: ramki Krishnan Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 3:01 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux; Norival Figueira Subject: RE: NFV in OpenStack use cases and context Hi Steve, We are have OpenStack gap analysis documents in ETSI NFV under member only access. I can work on getting public version of the documents (at least a draft) to fuel the kick start. Thanks, Ramki -Original Message- From: Steve Gordon [mailto:sgor...@redhat.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 12:06 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [NFV] Re: NFV in OpenStack use cases and context - Original Message - From: Steve Gordon sgor...@redhat.com To: Stephen Wong stephen.kf.w...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Stephen Wong stephen.kf.w...@gmail.com To: ITAI MENDELSOHN (ITAI) itai.mendels...@alcatel-lucent.com, OpenStack Development Mailing List
Re: [openstack-dev] NFV in OpenStack use cases and context
Hi Ramki Really like the smart scheduler idea, we made a couple of blueprints that are related to ensuring you have the right information to build a constrained based scheduler. I do however want to point out that this is not NFV specific but is useful for all applications and services of which NFV is one. /Alan -Original Message- From: ramki Krishnan [mailto:r...@brocade.com] Sent: June-10-14 6:06 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux; Norival Figueira Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] NFV in OpenStack use cases and context Hi Steve, Forgot to mention, the Smart Scheduler (Solver Scheduler) enhancements for NFV: Use Cases, Constraints etc. is a good example of an NFV use case deep dive for OpenStack. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=https://docs.google.com/document/d/1k60BQXOMkZS0SIxpFOppGgYp416uXcJVkAFep3Oeju8/edit%23heading%3Dh.wlbclagujw8ck=oIvRg1%2BdGAgOoM1BIlLLqw%3D%3D%0Ar=%2FZ35AkRhp2kCW4Q3MPeE%2BxY2bqaf%2FKm29ZfiqAKXxeo%3D%0Am=vTulCeloS8Hc59%2FeAOd32Ri4eqbNqVE%2FeMgNRzGZnz4%3D%0As=836991d6daab66b519de3b670db8af001144ddb20e636665b395597aa118538f Thanks, Ramki -Original Message- From: ramki Krishnan Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 3:01 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux; Norival Figueira Subject: RE: NFV in OpenStack use cases and context Hi Steve, We are have OpenStack gap analysis documents in ETSI NFV under member only access. I can work on getting public version of the documents (at least a draft) to fuel the kick start. Thanks, Ramki -Original Message- From: Steve Gordon [mailto:sgor...@redhat.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 12:06 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [NFV] Re: NFV in OpenStack use cases and context - Original Message - From: Steve Gordon sgor...@redhat.com To: Stephen Wong stephen.kf.w...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Stephen Wong stephen.kf.w...@gmail.com To: ITAI MENDELSOHN (ITAI) itai.mendels...@alcatel-lucent.com, OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Hi, Perhaps I have missed it somewhere in the email thread? Where is the use case = bp document we are supposed to do for this week? Has it been created yet? Thanks, - Stephen Hi, Itai is referring to the ETSI NFV use cases document [1] and the discussion is around how we distill those - or a subset of them - into a more consumable format for an OpenStack audience on the Wiki. At this point I think the best approach is to simply start entering one of them (perhaps #5) into the Wiki and go from there. Ideally this would form a basis for discussing the format etc. Thanks, Steve [1] http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_gs/NFV/001_099/001/01.01.01_60/gs_NFV 001v010101p.pdf To try and kick start things I have created a table on the wiki [1] based on the *DRAFT* NFV Performance Portability Best Practises document [2]. This really lists workload types rather than specific applications, although I've put in an examples column we can populate with them. I find it a useful way to quickly break down some of the characteristics of NFV applications at a glance. What do people think of this as something to start with? Remember, it's a wiki! So anyone is welcome to either expand the table or start adding more concrete user stories (e.g. around ETSI NFV use case number 5 that Itai and I have been referring to, or any other VNF for that matter) in this section (we may/want need to create a separate page but for now it seems OK to get started here). Thanks, Steve [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NFV#Use_Cases [2] http://docbox.etsi.org/ISG/NFV/Open/Latest_Drafts/NFV-PER001v009%20-%20NFV%20Performance%20%20Portability%20Best%20Practises.pdf ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] NFV in OpenStack use cases and context
Yathi - many thanks for adding more NFV context. Alan - many thanks for the interest and would be glad to have further discussions. Thanks, Ramki -Original Message- From: Yathiraj Udupi (yudupi) [mailto:yud...@cisco.com] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 11:53 AM To: Alan Kavanagh Cc: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] NFV in OpenStack use cases and context Hi Alan, Our Smart (Solver) Scheduler blueprint (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/solver-scheduler ) has been in the works in the Nova community since late 2013. We have demoed at the Hong Kong summit, as well as the Atlanta summit, use cases using this smart scheduler for better, optimized resource placement with complex constrained scenarios. So to let you know this work was started as a smart way of doing scheduling, applicable in general and not limited to NFV. Currently we feel NFV is a killer app for driving this blueprint and work ahead, however is applicable for all kinds of resource placement scenarios. We will be very interested in finding out more about your blueprints that you are referring to here, and see how it can be integrated as part of our future roadmap. Thanks, Yathi. On 6/12/14, 10:55 AM, Alan Kavanagh alan.kavan...@ericsson.com wrote: Hi Ramki Really like the smart scheduler idea, we made a couple of blueprints that are related to ensuring you have the right information to build a constrained based scheduler. I do however want to point out that this is not NFV specific but is useful for all applications and services of which NFV is one. /Alan -Original Message- From: ramki Krishnan [mailto:r...@brocade.com] Sent: June-10-14 6:06 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux; Norival Figueira Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] NFV in OpenStack use cases and context Hi Steve, Forgot to mention, the Smart Scheduler (Solver Scheduler) enhancements for NFV: Use Cases, Constraints etc. is a good example of an NFV use case deep dive for OpenStack. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=https://docs.google.com/docu men t/d/1k60BQXOMkZS0SIxpFOppGgYp416uXcJVkAFep3Oeju8/edit%23heading%3Dh.wlb cla gujw8ck=oIvRg1%2BdGAgOoM1BIlLLqw%3D%3D%0Ar=%2FZ35AkRhp2kCW4Q3MPeE%2Bx Y2b qaf%2FKm29ZfiqAKXxeo%3D%0Am=vTulCeloS8Hc59%2FeAOd32Ri4eqbNqVE%2FeMgNRz GZn z4%3D%0As=836991d6daab66b519de3b670db8af001144ddb20e636665b395597aa118 538 f Thanks, Ramki -Original Message- From: ramki Krishnan Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 3:01 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux; Norival Figueira Subject: RE: NFV in OpenStack use cases and context Hi Steve, We are have OpenStack gap analysis documents in ETSI NFV under member only access. I can work on getting public version of the documents (at least a draft) to fuel the kick start. Thanks, Ramki -Original Message- From: Steve Gordon [mailto:sgor...@redhat.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 12:06 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [NFV] Re: NFV in OpenStack use cases and context - Original Message - From: Steve Gordon sgor...@redhat.com To: Stephen Wong stephen.kf.w...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Stephen Wong stephen.kf.w...@gmail.com To: ITAI MENDELSOHN (ITAI) itai.mendels...@alcatel-lucent.com, OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Hi, Perhaps I have missed it somewhere in the email thread? Where is the use case = bp document we are supposed to do for this week? Has it been created yet? Thanks, - Stephen Hi, Itai is referring to the ETSI NFV use cases document [1] and the discussion is around how we distill those - or a subset of them - into a more consumable format for an OpenStack audience on the Wiki. At this point I think the best approach is to simply start entering one of them (perhaps #5) into the Wiki and go from there. Ideally this would form a basis for discussing the format etc. Thanks, Steve [1] http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_gs/NFV/001_099/001/01.01.01_60/gs_NF V 001v010101p.pdf To try and kick start things I have created a table on the wiki [1] based on the *DRAFT* NFV Performance Portability Best Practises document [2]. This really lists workload types rather than specific applications, although I've put in an examples column we can populate with them. I find it a useful way to quickly break down some of the characteristics of NFV applications at a glance. What do people think of this as something to start with? Remember, it's a wiki! So anyone is welcome to either expand the table or start adding more concrete user stories (e.g. around ETSI NFV use case number 5 that Itai and I have been referring
Re: [openstack-dev] NFV in OpenStack use cases and context
++ Yathi. -Original Message- From: ramki Krishnan [mailto:r...@brocade.com] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 12:48 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions); Alan Kavanagh Cc: Norival Figueira Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] NFV in OpenStack use cases and context Yathi - many thanks for adding more NFV context. Alan - many thanks for the interest and would be glad to have further discussions. Thanks, Ramki -Original Message- From: Yathiraj Udupi (yudupi) [mailto:yud...@cisco.com] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 11:53 AM To: Alan Kavanagh Cc: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] NFV in OpenStack use cases and context Hi Alan, Our Smart (Solver) Scheduler blueprint (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/solver-scheduler ) has been in the works in the Nova community since late 2013. We have demoed at the Hong Kong summit, as well as the Atlanta summit, use cases using this smart scheduler for better, optimized resource placement with complex constrained scenarios. So to let you know this work was started as a smart way of doing scheduling, applicable in general and not limited to NFV. Currently we feel NFV is a killer app for driving this blueprint and work ahead, however is applicable for all kinds of resource placement scenarios. We will be very interested in finding out more about your blueprints that you are referring to here, and see how it can be integrated as part of our future roadmap. Thanks, Yathi. On 6/12/14, 10:55 AM, Alan Kavanagh alan.kavan...@ericsson.com wrote: Hi Ramki Really like the smart scheduler idea, we made a couple of blueprints that are related to ensuring you have the right information to build a constrained based scheduler. I do however want to point out that this is not NFV specific but is useful for all applications and services of which NFV is one. /Alan -Original Message- From: ramki Krishnan [mailto:r...@brocade.com] Sent: June-10-14 6:06 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux; Norival Figueira Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] NFV in OpenStack use cases and context Hi Steve, Forgot to mention, the Smart Scheduler (Solver Scheduler) enhancements for NFV: Use Cases, Constraints etc. is a good example of an NFV use case deep dive for OpenStack. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=https://docs.google.com/docu men t/d/1k60BQXOMkZS0SIxpFOppGgYp416uXcJVkAFep3Oeju8/edit%23heading%3Dh.wlb cla gujw8ck=oIvRg1%2BdGAgOoM1BIlLLqw%3D%3D%0Ar=%2FZ35AkRhp2kCW4Q3MPeE%2Bx Y2b qaf%2FKm29ZfiqAKXxeo%3D%0Am=vTulCeloS8Hc59%2FeAOd32Ri4eqbNqVE%2FeMgNRz GZn z4%3D%0As=836991d6daab66b519de3b670db8af001144ddb20e636665b395597aa118 538 f Thanks, Ramki -Original Message- From: ramki Krishnan Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 3:01 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux; Norival Figueira Subject: RE: NFV in OpenStack use cases and context Hi Steve, We are have OpenStack gap analysis documents in ETSI NFV under member only access. I can work on getting public version of the documents (at least a draft) to fuel the kick start. Thanks, Ramki -Original Message- From: Steve Gordon [mailto:sgor...@redhat.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 12:06 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [NFV] Re: NFV in OpenStack use cases and context - Original Message - From: Steve Gordon sgor...@redhat.com To: Stephen Wong stephen.kf.w...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Stephen Wong stephen.kf.w...@gmail.com To: ITAI MENDELSOHN (ITAI) itai.mendels...@alcatel-lucent.com, OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Hi, Perhaps I have missed it somewhere in the email thread? Where is the use case = bp document we are supposed to do for this week? Has it been created yet? Thanks, - Stephen Hi, Itai is referring to the ETSI NFV use cases document [1] and the discussion is around how we distill those - or a subset of them - into a more consumable format for an OpenStack audience on the Wiki. At this point I think the best approach is to simply start entering one of them (perhaps #5) into the Wiki and go from there. Ideally this would form a basis for discussing the format etc. Thanks, Steve [1] http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_gs/NFV/001_099/001/01.01.01_60/gs_NF V 001v010101p.pdf To try and kick start things I have created a table on the wiki [1] based on the *DRAFT* NFV Performance Portability Best Practises document [2]. This really lists workload types rather than specific applications, although I've put in an examples column we can populate with them. I find it a useful way to quickly break down some
Re: [openstack-dev] NFV in OpenStack use cases and context
Hi Yathi The BP's I am referring too are the nic state aware scheduling (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/nic-state-aware-scheduling ) and the PCI device capability aware scheduling (appears to have been deleted, will upload it again). I can see NFV utilising this for some apps we have the same view point on this too, though my main gripe on this was its applicable to others. /Alan -Original Message- From: Yathiraj Udupi (yudupi) [mailto:yud...@cisco.com] Sent: June-12-14 2:53 PM To: Alan Kavanagh Cc: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions); Debojyoti Dutta Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] NFV in OpenStack use cases and context Hi Alan, Our Smart (Solver) Scheduler blueprint (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/solver-scheduler ) has been in the works in the Nova community since late 2013. We have demoed at the Hong Kong summit, as well as the Atlanta summit, use cases using this smart scheduler for better, optimized resource placement with complex constrained scenarios. So to let you know this work was started as a smart way of doing scheduling, applicable in general and not limited to NFV. Currently we feel NFV is a killer app for driving this blueprint and work ahead, however is applicable for all kinds of resource placement scenarios. We will be very interested in finding out more about your blueprints that you are referring to here, and see how it can be integrated as part of our future roadmap. Thanks, Yathi. On 6/12/14, 10:55 AM, Alan Kavanagh alan.kavan...@ericsson.com wrote: Hi Ramki Really like the smart scheduler idea, we made a couple of blueprints that are related to ensuring you have the right information to build a constrained based scheduler. I do however want to point out that this is not NFV specific but is useful for all applications and services of which NFV is one. /Alan -Original Message- From: ramki Krishnan [mailto:r...@brocade.com] Sent: June-10-14 6:06 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux; Norival Figueira Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] NFV in OpenStack use cases and context Hi Steve, Forgot to mention, the Smart Scheduler (Solver Scheduler) enhancements for NFV: Use Cases, Constraints etc. is a good example of an NFV use case deep dive for OpenStack. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=https://docs.google.com/docu men t/d/1k60BQXOMkZS0SIxpFOppGgYp416uXcJVkAFep3Oeju8/edit%23heading%3Dh.wlb cla gujw8ck=oIvRg1%2BdGAgOoM1BIlLLqw%3D%3D%0Ar=%2FZ35AkRhp2kCW4Q3MPeE%2Bx Y2b qaf%2FKm29ZfiqAKXxeo%3D%0Am=vTulCeloS8Hc59%2FeAOd32Ri4eqbNqVE%2FeMgNRz GZn z4%3D%0As=836991d6daab66b519de3b670db8af001144ddb20e636665b395597aa118 538 f Thanks, Ramki -Original Message- From: ramki Krishnan Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 3:01 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux; Norival Figueira Subject: RE: NFV in OpenStack use cases and context Hi Steve, We are have OpenStack gap analysis documents in ETSI NFV under member only access. I can work on getting public version of the documents (at least a draft) to fuel the kick start. Thanks, Ramki -Original Message- From: Steve Gordon [mailto:sgor...@redhat.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 12:06 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [NFV] Re: NFV in OpenStack use cases and context - Original Message - From: Steve Gordon sgor...@redhat.com To: Stephen Wong stephen.kf.w...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Stephen Wong stephen.kf.w...@gmail.com To: ITAI MENDELSOHN (ITAI) itai.mendels...@alcatel-lucent.com, OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Hi, Perhaps I have missed it somewhere in the email thread? Where is the use case = bp document we are supposed to do for this week? Has it been created yet? Thanks, - Stephen Hi, Itai is referring to the ETSI NFV use cases document [1] and the discussion is around how we distill those - or a subset of them - into a more consumable format for an OpenStack audience on the Wiki. At this point I think the best approach is to simply start entering one of them (perhaps #5) into the Wiki and go from there. Ideally this would form a basis for discussing the format etc. Thanks, Steve [1] http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_gs/NFV/001_099/001/01.01.01_60/gs_NF V 001v010101p.pdf To try and kick start things I have created a table on the wiki [1] based on the *DRAFT* NFV Performance Portability Best Practises document [2]. This really lists workload types rather than specific applications, although I've put in an examples column we can populate with them. I find it a useful way to quickly break down some of the characteristics of NFV applications
Re: [openstack-dev] NFV in OpenStack use cases and context
I've added examples in data plane, control plane and signal processing that relate to ETSI use case #5 (IMS). Martin -Original Message- From: Steve Gordon [mailto:sgor...@redhat.com] Sent: 10 June 2014 20:06 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [NFV] Re: NFV in OpenStack use cases and context - Original Message - From: Steve Gordon sgor...@redhat.com To: Stephen Wong stephen.kf.w...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Stephen Wong stephen.kf.w...@gmail.com To: ITAI MENDELSOHN (ITAI) itai.mendels...@alcatel-lucent.com, OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Hi, Perhaps I have missed it somewhere in the email thread? Where is the use case = bp document we are supposed to do for this week? Has it been created yet? Thanks, - Stephen Hi, Itai is referring to the ETSI NFV use cases document [1] and the discussion is around how we distill those - or a subset of them - into a more consumable format for an OpenStack audience on the Wiki. At this point I think the best approach is to simply start entering one of them (perhaps #5) into the Wiki and go from there. Ideally this would form a basis for discussing the format etc. Thanks, Steve [1] http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_gs/NFV/001_099/001/01.01.01_60/gs_NFV 001v010101p.pdf To try and kick start things I have created a table on the wiki [1] based on the *DRAFT* NFV Performance Portability Best Practises document [2]. This really lists workload types rather than specific applications, although I've put in an examples column we can populate with them. I find it a useful way to quickly break down some of the characteristics of NFV applications at a glance. What do people think of this as something to start with? Remember, it's a wiki! So anyone is welcome to either expand the table or start adding more concrete user stories (e.g. around ETSI NFV use case number 5 that Itai and I have been referring to, or any other VNF for that matter) in this section (we may/want need to create a separate page but for now it seems OK to get started here). Thanks, Steve [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NFV#Use_Cases [2] http://docbox.etsi.org/ISG/NFV/Open/Latest_Drafts/NFV-PER001v009%20-%20NFV%20Performance%20%20Portability%20Best%20Practises.pdf ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] NFV in OpenStack use cases and context
Thanks Martin Perhaps I am missing this a little bit, but in relation to the control plane and signal processing, how do you see that fitting into requirements we would need in Openstack? If I may jump a little bit here, the only one I can see is making sure the app is installed on a given PCI device with a given set of necessary capabilities and driver types which is a BP Ericsson+Intel submitted for PCI/e device discovery and registration and this is applicable to a whole range of apps and services. Do you see others that are needed? /Alan -Original Message- From: Martin Taylor [mailto:martin.tay...@metaswitch.com] Sent: June-11-14 4:40 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] NFV in OpenStack use cases and context I've added examples in data plane, control plane and signal processing that relate to ETSI use case #5 (IMS). Martin -Original Message- From: Steve Gordon [mailto:sgor...@redhat.com] Sent: 10 June 2014 20:06 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [NFV] Re: NFV in OpenStack use cases and context - Original Message - From: Steve Gordon sgor...@redhat.com To: Stephen Wong stephen.kf.w...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Stephen Wong stephen.kf.w...@gmail.com To: ITAI MENDELSOHN (ITAI) itai.mendels...@alcatel-lucent.com, OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Hi, Perhaps I have missed it somewhere in the email thread? Where is the use case = bp document we are supposed to do for this week? Has it been created yet? Thanks, - Stephen Hi, Itai is referring to the ETSI NFV use cases document [1] and the discussion is around how we distill those - or a subset of them - into a more consumable format for an OpenStack audience on the Wiki. At this point I think the best approach is to simply start entering one of them (perhaps #5) into the Wiki and go from there. Ideally this would form a basis for discussing the format etc. Thanks, Steve [1] http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_gs/NFV/001_099/001/01.01.01_60/gs_NFV 001v010101p.pdf To try and kick start things I have created a table on the wiki [1] based on the *DRAFT* NFV Performance Portability Best Practises document [2]. This really lists workload types rather than specific applications, although I've put in an examples column we can populate with them. I find it a useful way to quickly break down some of the characteristics of NFV applications at a glance. What do people think of this as something to start with? Remember, it's a wiki! So anyone is welcome to either expand the table or start adding more concrete user stories (e.g. around ETSI NFV use case number 5 that Itai and I have been referring to, or any other VNF for that matter) in this section (we may/want need to create a separate page but for now it seems OK to get started here). Thanks, Steve [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NFV#Use_Cases [2] http://docbox.etsi.org/ISG/NFV/Open/Latest_Drafts/NFV-PER001v009%20-%20NFV%20Performance%20%20Portability%20Best%20Practises.pdf ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] NFV in OpenStack use cases and context
Hi Steve, We are have OpenStack gap analysis documents in ETSI NFV under member only access. I can work on getting public version of the documents (at least a draft) to fuel the kick start. Thanks, Ramki -Original Message- From: Steve Gordon [mailto:sgor...@redhat.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 12:06 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [NFV] Re: NFV in OpenStack use cases and context - Original Message - From: Steve Gordon sgor...@redhat.com To: Stephen Wong stephen.kf.w...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Stephen Wong stephen.kf.w...@gmail.com To: ITAI MENDELSOHN (ITAI) itai.mendels...@alcatel-lucent.com, OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Hi, Perhaps I have missed it somewhere in the email thread? Where is the use case = bp document we are supposed to do for this week? Has it been created yet? Thanks, - Stephen Hi, Itai is referring to the ETSI NFV use cases document [1] and the discussion is around how we distill those - or a subset of them - into a more consumable format for an OpenStack audience on the Wiki. At this point I think the best approach is to simply start entering one of them (perhaps #5) into the Wiki and go from there. Ideally this would form a basis for discussing the format etc. Thanks, Steve [1] http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_gs/NFV/001_099/001/01.01.01_60/gs_NFV 001v010101p.pdf To try and kick start things I have created a table on the wiki [1] based on the *DRAFT* NFV Performance Portability Best Practises document [2]. This really lists workload types rather than specific applications, although I've put in an examples column we can populate with them. I find it a useful way to quickly break down some of the characteristics of NFV applications at a glance. What do people think of this as something to start with? Remember, it's a wiki! So anyone is welcome to either expand the table or start adding more concrete user stories (e.g. around ETSI NFV use case number 5 that Itai and I have been referring to, or any other VNF for that matter) in this section (we may/want need to create a separate page but for now it seems OK to get started here). Thanks, Steve [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NFV#Use_Cases [2] http://docbox.etsi.org/ISG/NFV/Open/Latest_Drafts/NFV-PER001v009%20-%20NFV%20Performance%20%20Portability%20Best%20Practises.pdf ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] NFV in OpenStack use cases and context
Hi Steve, Forgot to mention, the Smart Scheduler (Solver Scheduler) enhancements for NFV: Use Cases, Constraints etc. is a good example of an NFV use case deep dive for OpenStack. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=https://docs.google.com/document/d/1k60BQXOMkZS0SIxpFOppGgYp416uXcJVkAFep3Oeju8/edit%23heading%3Dh.wlbclagujw8ck=oIvRg1%2BdGAgOoM1BIlLLqw%3D%3D%0Ar=%2FZ35AkRhp2kCW4Q3MPeE%2BxY2bqaf%2FKm29ZfiqAKXxeo%3D%0Am=vTulCeloS8Hc59%2FeAOd32Ri4eqbNqVE%2FeMgNRzGZnz4%3D%0As=836991d6daab66b519de3b670db8af001144ddb20e636665b395597aa118538f Thanks, Ramki -Original Message- From: ramki Krishnan Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 3:01 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux; Norival Figueira Subject: RE: NFV in OpenStack use cases and context Hi Steve, We are have OpenStack gap analysis documents in ETSI NFV under member only access. I can work on getting public version of the documents (at least a draft) to fuel the kick start. Thanks, Ramki -Original Message- From: Steve Gordon [mailto:sgor...@redhat.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 12:06 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: Chris Wright; Nicolas Lemieux Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [NFV] Re: NFV in OpenStack use cases and context - Original Message - From: Steve Gordon sgor...@redhat.com To: Stephen Wong stephen.kf.w...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: Stephen Wong stephen.kf.w...@gmail.com To: ITAI MENDELSOHN (ITAI) itai.mendels...@alcatel-lucent.com, OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Hi, Perhaps I have missed it somewhere in the email thread? Where is the use case = bp document we are supposed to do for this week? Has it been created yet? Thanks, - Stephen Hi, Itai is referring to the ETSI NFV use cases document [1] and the discussion is around how we distill those - or a subset of them - into a more consumable format for an OpenStack audience on the Wiki. At this point I think the best approach is to simply start entering one of them (perhaps #5) into the Wiki and go from there. Ideally this would form a basis for discussing the format etc. Thanks, Steve [1] http://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_gs/NFV/001_099/001/01.01.01_60/gs_NFV 001v010101p.pdf To try and kick start things I have created a table on the wiki [1] based on the *DRAFT* NFV Performance Portability Best Practises document [2]. This really lists workload types rather than specific applications, although I've put in an examples column we can populate with them. I find it a useful way to quickly break down some of the characteristics of NFV applications at a glance. What do people think of this as something to start with? Remember, it's a wiki! So anyone is welcome to either expand the table or start adding more concrete user stories (e.g. around ETSI NFV use case number 5 that Itai and I have been referring to, or any other VNF for that matter) in this section (we may/want need to create a separate page but for now it seems OK to get started here). Thanks, Steve [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NFV#Use_Cases [2] http://docbox.etsi.org/ISG/NFV/Open/Latest_Drafts/NFV-PER001v009%20-%20NFV%20Performance%20%20Portability%20Best%20Practises.pdf ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] NFV in OpenStack use cases and context
Hi Ramki, On 11.06.2014 00:06, ramki Krishnan wrote: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=https://docs.google.com/document/d/1k60BQXOMkZS0SIxpFOppGgYp416uXcJVkAFep3Oeju8/edit%23heading%3Dh.wlbclagujw8ck=oIvRg1%2BdGAgOoM1BIlLLqw%3D%3D%0Ar=%2FZ35AkRhp2kCW4Q3MPeE%2BxY2bqaf%2FKm29ZfiqAKXxeo%3D%0Am=vTulCeloS8Hc59%2FeAOd32Ri4eqbNqVE%2FeMgNRzGZnz4%3D%0As=836991d6daab66b519de3b670db8af001144ddb20e636665b395597aa118538f there are a two typo on the last line of the docoment, IMHO: x1+x2+x3 = 20 VMs, x1 = 10 VMs, x2 = 10 VMs, x3 = 10 VMs y1+y2+y3 = 2 Gbps, y1 = 0, y2 = 10Gbps, y3 = 10Gbps cu Volker -- ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] NFV in OpenStack use cases and context
Hi Cu Volker, Many thanks for catching this. I will fix this shortly. Thanks, Ramki -Original Message- From: Volker Lötterle [mailto:openst...@systems-networking.de] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 7:48 PM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] NFV in OpenStack use cases and context Hi Ramki, On 11.06.2014 00:06, ramki Krishnan wrote: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=https://docs.google.com/document/d/1k60BQXOMkZS0SIxpFOppGgYp416uXcJVkAFep3Oeju8/edit%23heading%3Dh.wlbclagujw8ck=oIvRg1%2BdGAgOoM1BIlLLqw%3D%3D%0Ar=%2FZ35AkRhp2kCW4Q3MPeE%2BxY2bqaf%2FKm29ZfiqAKXxeo%3D%0Am=vTulCeloS8Hc59%2FeAOd32Ri4eqbNqVE%2FeMgNRzGZnz4%3D%0As=836991d6daab66b519de3b670db8af001144ddb20e636665b395597aa118538f there are a two typo on the last line of the docoment, IMHO: x1+x2+x3 = 20 VMs, x1 = 10 VMs, x2 = 10 VMs, x3 = 10 VMs y1+y2+y3 = 2 Gbps, y1 = 0, y2 = 10Gbps, y3 = 10Gbps cu Volker -- ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
