Re: [openstack-dev] Project mascots update

[Hayes, Graham]

On 05/08/2016 16:04, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Thu, 2016-08-04 at 17:09 +1000, Mike Carden wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Antoni Segura Puimedon <
>> toni+openstac...@midokura.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> It would be really awesome if, in true OSt and OSS spirit this work
>>> happened in an OpenStack repository with an open, text based format
>>> like SVG. This way people could contribute and review.
>>>
>>>
>> I am strongly in favour of images being stored in open formats. Right
>> now the most widely supported open formats are PNG and SVG. Let's
>> make sure that as often as possible, we all store non-photographic
>> images in formats like these.
>
> As someone who acts as web monkey for various conference websites,
> could I just say please use SVG.  Scalable formats are so much easier
> for website designers to work with and pngs have a habit of looking
> ugly when you're forced to scale them (which inevitably happens when
> you have a bunch and you're trying to get them to look uniform).
>
> James
>

Yeah - Can I echo that. When working on using them for other uses
(t-shirts / USB Keys / presentations / printed docs) having a vector
format makes it *much* easier.

On that note - I may have missed it, but what licence are these logos
being released under? Is there any restrictions on their usage like
there is on the main OpenStack logo?

- Graham

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Re: [openstack-dev] Project mascots update

[James Bottomley]

On Thu, 2016-08-04 at 17:09 +1000, Mike Carden wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Antoni Segura Puimedon <
> toni+openstac...@midokura.com> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > It would be really awesome if, in true OSt and OSS spirit this work
> > happened in an OpenStack repository with an open, text based format 
> > like SVG. This way people could contribute and review.
> > 
> > 
> I am strongly in favour of images being stored in open formats. Right 
> now the most widely supported open formats are PNG and SVG. Let's 
> make sure that as often as possible, we all store non-photographic 
> images in formats like these.

As someone who acts as web monkey for various conference websites,
could I just say please use SVG.  Scalable formats are so much easier
for website designers to work with and pngs have a habit of looking
ugly when you're forced to scale them (which inevitably happens when
you have a bunch and you're trying to get them to look uniform).

James



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Re: [openstack-dev] Project mascots update

[Steven Dake (stdake)]

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Subject: [openstack-dev] Project mascots update

Steve Dake asked: "Heidi, I received a related question from a Kolla core 
reviewer. Do the project teams have input into the mascot design? If this has 
already been discussed on the list, I may have missed it."

HJ: While we haven't discussed this on the ML, we referenced a bit in the web 
page. Our intent is to create a family of logos that have a distinctive design 
style that is unique to OpenStack community projects. That illustration style 
is something my colleague Todd Morey (OSF creative director) has been working 
on with several professional illustrators, choosing the best of the bunch, and 
developing a handful of logos that will serve as guideposts for the rest of 
design.

We don't have illustration resources sufficient to seek team input on 
individual designs-that's why we emphasized team input on the mascot concept. 
(As I told Steve Hardy, I'm happy to talk to anyone who has special requests on 
how their mascot is portrayed.) Also, while nearly everyone has an opinion 
about design, those opinions will be varied (and often contradictory). I hope 
you'll be willing to trust the excellent design leadership that produced our 
Summit designs, craveable shirts and stickers, and OpenStack's evolving visual 
identity. That said, I'll be thrilled to hear from anyone with opinions on 
design to find out more about your perspective. I love talking about this stuff.



Heidi,

Of course we trust the excellent design leadership that has produced all of the 
great creative work that the OpenStack foundation has produced representing our 
visual identity.  It was a question that came up in our team meeting and one of 
our core reviewers wanted an answer (and I wasn't sure).  Thanks for answering 
:)

Regards
-steve


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[openstack-dev] Project mascots update

[Heidi Joy Tretheway]

Steve Dake asked: “Heidi, I received a related question from a Kolla core 
reviewer. Do the project teams have input into the mascot design? If this has 
already been discussed on the list, I may have missed it.”

HJ: While we haven’t discussed this on the ML, we referenced a bit in the web 
page. Our intent is to create a family of logos that have a distinctive design 
style that is unique to OpenStack community projects. That illustration style 
is something my colleague Todd Morey (OSF creative director) has been working 
on with several professional illustrators, choosing the best of the bunch, and 
developing a handful of logos that will serve as guideposts for the rest of 
design. 

We don’t have illustration resources sufficient to seek team input on 
individual designs—that’s why we emphasized team input on the mascot concept. 
(As I told Steve Hardy, I’m happy to talk to anyone who has special requests on 
how their mascot is portrayed.) Also, while nearly everyone has an opinion 
about design, those opinions will be varied (and often contradictory). I hope 
you’ll be willing to trust the excellent design leadership that produced our 
Summit designs, craveable shirts and stickers, and OpenStack's evolving visual 
identity. That said, I’ll be thrilled to hear from anyone with opinions on 
design to find out more about your perspective. I love talking about this 
stuff. 



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Re: [openstack-dev] Project mascots update

[Mike Carden]

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Antoni Segura Puimedon <
toni+openstac...@midokura.com> wrote:

>
> It would be really awesome if, in true OSt and OSS spirit this work
> happened in an OpenStack repository with an open, text based format like
> SVG. This way people could contribute and review.
>
>
I am strongly in favour of images being stored in open formats. Right now
the most widely supported open formats are PNG and SVG. Let's make sure
that as often as possible, we all store non-photographic images in formats
like these.

-- 
MC
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Re: [openstack-dev] Project mascots update

[Antoni Segura Puimedon]

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 11:00 PM, Heidi Joy Tretheway  wrote:

> *Steve Hardy wrote:*
> *"I have one question regarding the review process for the logos when
> they are drafted? In the cases where projects have their existing community
> generated logos I can imagine there will be a preference to stick with
> something that’s somehow derived from their existing logo…" *
>
> HJ: You’re right, Steve. That’s why every project that had an existing
> community-illustrated logo had first option to keep that mascot in the
> revised logo, and in most cases they chose to do this. So Oslo’s moose,
> Senlin’s forest, Tacker’s squid, and Cloudkitty’s cat (among others) will
> still be the prominent feature in their logo.
>
> *Steve Hardy wrote:*
> *“In cases where a new logo is produced I'm sure community enthusiasm and
> acceptance will be greater if team members have played a part in the logo
> design process or at least provided some feedback prior to the designs
> being declared final?”*
>
> HJ: Absolutely. That’s why we encouraged project teams to work together to
> select their mascot. I received dozens of team etherpads and Condorcet
> polls from PTLs to show how the team decided their mascot candidates. The
> PTLs confirmed their winners for the list you see on
> http://www.openstack.org/project-mascots. You can also see an example of
> an illustration style there, and we expect to have the first five logos
> (with the final illustration style) in hand shortly.
>
> It’s going to be a major effort to complete 50 illustrations x 3 logo
> variations prior to Barcelona, but I think we can make it. That said, it’s
> not possible to do several rounds of revisions with each project team and
> the illustrators. What I’ve been doing instead is listening carefully to
> project team requests and pulling photos to share with the illustrators
> that best show what the teams intend. I’m happy to share that with anyone
> who asks.
>

It would be really awesome if, in true OSt and OSS spirit this work
happened in an OpenStack repository with an open, text based format like
SVG. This way people could contribute and review.


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[openstack-dev] Project mascots update

[Heidi Joy Tretheway]

Steve Hardy wrote:
"I have one question regarding the review process for the logos when they are 
drafted? In the cases where projects have their existing community generated 
logos I can imagine there will be a preference to stick with something that’s 
somehow derived from their existing logo…" 

HJ: You’re right, Steve. That’s why every project that had an existing 
community-illustrated logo had first option to keep that mascot in the revised 
logo, and in most cases they chose to do this. So Oslo’s moose, Senlin’s 
forest, Tacker’s squid, and Cloudkitty’s cat (among others) will still be the 
prominent feature in their logo.

Steve Hardy wrote:
“In cases where a new logo is produced I'm sure community enthusiasm and 
acceptance will be greater if team members have played a part in the logo 
design process or at least provided some feedback prior to the designs being 
declared final?”

HJ: Absolutely. That’s why we encouraged project teams to work together to 
select their mascot. I received dozens of team etherpads and Condorcet polls 
from PTLs to show how the team decided their mascot candidates. The PTLs 
confirmed their winners for the list you see on 
http://www.openstack.org/project-mascots 
. You can also see an example of an 
illustration style there, and we expect to have the first five logos (with the 
final illustration style) in hand shortly. 

It’s going to be a major effort to complete 50 illustrations x 3 logo 
variations prior to Barcelona, but I think we can make it. That said, it’s not 
possible to do several rounds of revisions with each project team and the 
illustrators. What I’ve been doing instead is listening carefully to project 
team requests and pulling photos to share with the illustrators that best show 
what the teams intend. I’m happy to share that with anyone who asks.
  
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Re: [openstack-dev] Project mascots update

[Steven Dake (stdake)]

On 8/3/16, 10:37 AM, "Steven Hardy"  wrote:

>On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 10:19:10AM -0700, Heidi Joy Tretheway wrote:
>>Thanks to all of you for contributing unique and inspiring ideas to
>>choose
>>a team mascot. You can view a list of projects that have chosen their
>>mascots here: http://www.openstack.org/project-mascots, and more
>>will be
>>added soon as the last handful of teams finalize theirs.
>>Illustrators are
>>working now to produce a family of great logos for you that will
>>come out
>>closer to the Barcelona Summit. Feel free to drop me a note with
>>questions.
>
>I have one question regarding the review process for the logos when they
>are drafted?
>
>In the cases where projects have their existing community generated logos
>I can imagine there will be a preference to stick with something that's
>somehow derived from their existing logo, and in cases where a new logo is
>produced I'm sure community enthusiasm and acceptance will be greater if
>team members have played a part in the logo design process or at least
>provided some feedback prior to the designs being declared final?
>
>Thanks!
>
>Steve Hardy

Heidi,

I received a related question from a Kolla core reviewer.  "Do the project
teams have input into the mascot design."

If this has already been discussed on the list, I may have missed it.

Thanks
-steve

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Re: [openstack-dev] Project mascots update

[Steven Hardy]

On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 10:19:10AM -0700, Heidi Joy Tretheway wrote:
>Thanks to all of you for contributing unique and inspiring ideas to choose
>a team mascot. You can view a list of projects that have chosen their
>mascots here: http://www.openstack.org/project-mascots, and more will be
>added soon as the last handful of teams finalize theirs. Illustrators are
>working now to produce a family of great logos for you that will come out
>closer to the Barcelona Summit. Feel free to drop me a note with
>questions.

I have one question regarding the review process for the logos when they
are drafted?

In the cases where projects have their existing community generated logos
I can imagine there will be a preference to stick with something that's
somehow derived from their existing logo, and in cases where a new logo is
produced I'm sure community enthusiasm and acceptance will be greater if
team members have played a part in the logo design process or at least
provided some feedback prior to the designs being declared final?

Thanks!

Steve Hardy

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[openstack-dev] Project mascots update

[Heidi Joy Tretheway]

Thanks to all of you for contributing unique and inspiring ideas to choose a 
team mascot. You can view a list of projects that have chosen their mascots 
here: http://www.openstack.org/project-mascots 
, and more will be added soon as the 
last handful of teams finalize theirs. Illustrators are working now to produce 
a family of great logos for you that will come out closer to the Barcelona 
Summit. Feel free to drop me a note with questions.

Heidi Joy

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