Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Building images separation and moving images into right place at right time

2015-04-17 Thread Jaromir Coufal
Oh, I see it got already split (not in this patch)! Excellent. Thanks 
for striking me Jay, it actually helped. Many thanks!


-- Jarda

On 17/04/15 16:00, Jay Dobies wrote:

Have you seen Dan's first steps towards splitting the overcloud image
building out of devtest_overcloud? It's not the same thing that you're
talking about, but it might be a step in that direction.

https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173645/

On 04/17/2015 09:50 AM, Jaromir Coufal wrote:

Hi All,

at the moment we are building discovery, deploy and overcloud images all
at once. Then we face user to deal with uploading all images at one step.

User should not be exposed to discovery/deploy images. This should
happen automatically for the user during undercloud installation as
post-config step, so that undercloud is usable.

Once user installs undercloud (and have discovery  deploy images at
their place) he should be able to build / download / create overcloud
images (by overcloud images I mean overcloud-full.*). This is what user
should deal with.

For this we will need to separate building process for discovery+deploy
images and for overcloud images. Is that possible?

-- Jarda

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Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Building images separation and moving images into right place at right time

2015-04-17 Thread Jay Dobies
Have you seen Dan's first steps towards splitting the overcloud image 
building out of devtest_overcloud? It's not the same thing that you're 
talking about, but it might be a step in that direction.


https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173645/

On 04/17/2015 09:50 AM, Jaromir Coufal wrote:

Hi All,

at the moment we are building discovery, deploy and overcloud images all
at once. Then we face user to deal with uploading all images at one step.

User should not be exposed to discovery/deploy images. This should
happen automatically for the user during undercloud installation as
post-config step, so that undercloud is usable.

Once user installs undercloud (and have discovery  deploy images at
their place) he should be able to build / download / create overcloud
images (by overcloud images I mean overcloud-full.*). This is what user
should deal with.

For this we will need to separate building process for discovery+deploy
images and for overcloud images. Is that possible?

-- Jarda

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Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Building images separation and moving images into right place at right time

2015-04-17 Thread Arkady_Kanevsky
Dell - Internal Use - Confidential 

We need an ability for an Admin to add/remove new images at will to deploy new 
overcloud images at any time.
Expect that it is standard glance functionality.


-Original Message-
From: Jaromir Coufal [mailto:jcou...@redhat.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 8:51 AM
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Subject: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Building images separation and moving images 
into right place at right time

Hi All,

at the moment we are building discovery, deploy and overcloud images all at 
once. Then we face user to deal with uploading all images at one step.

User should not be exposed to discovery/deploy images. This should happen 
automatically for the user during undercloud installation as post-config step, 
so that undercloud is usable.

Once user installs undercloud (and have discovery  deploy images at their 
place) he should be able to build / download / create overcloud images (by 
overcloud images I mean overcloud-full.*). This is what user should deal with.

For this we will need to separate building process for discovery+deploy images 
and for overcloud images. Is that possible?

-- Jarda

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Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Building images separation and moving images into right place at right time

2015-04-17 Thread Arkady_Kanevsky
Dell - Internal Use - Confidential 

If images under consideration are for overcloud nodes then they will changing 
all the time also. It all depends on which layer you are working on.
Just consider images for overcloud nodes as a cloud application, and then 
follow rules you would apply to any cloud application development.

I feel that we are in agreement on the goal and only specific work to be done 
is under discussion.

Do you have a blueprint or spec? That will simplify discussion.
Thanks,
Arkady

-Original Message-
From: Jaromir Coufal [mailto:jcou...@redhat.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 10:54 AM
To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Building images separation and moving 
images into right place at right time

Hey Arkady,

yes, this should stay as fundamental requirement. This is tandard Glance 
functionality, I just want to separate discover and deploy images since these 
will not be very likely subject of change and they belong into undercloud 
installation stage.

That's why I want to separate overcloud building images (which is actually 
already there) so that user can easily replace this image with different one.

-- Jarda

On 17/04/15 16:18, arkady_kanev...@dell.com wrote:
 We need an ability for an Admin to add/remove new images at will to deploy 
 new overcloud images at any time.
 Expect that it is standard glance functionality.


 -Original Message-
 From: Jaromir Coufal [mailto:jcou...@redhat.com]
 Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 8:51 AM
 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List
 Subject: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Building images separation and 
 moving images into right place at right time

 Hi All,

 at the moment we are building discovery, deploy and overcloud images all at 
 once. Then we face user to deal with uploading all images at one step.

 User should not be exposed to discovery/deploy images. This should happen 
 automatically for the user during undercloud installation as post-config 
 step, so that undercloud is usable.

 Once user installs undercloud (and have discovery  deploy images at their 
 place) he should be able to build / download / create overcloud images (by 
 overcloud images I mean overcloud-full.*). This is what user should deal with.

 For this we will need to separate building process for discovery+deploy 
 images and for overcloud images. Is that possible?

 -- Jarda

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Re: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Building images separation and moving images into right place at right time

2015-04-17 Thread Jaromir Coufal

Hey Arkady,

yes, this should stay as fundamental requirement. This is tandard Glance 
functionality, I just want to separate discover and deploy images since 
these will not be very likely subject of change and they belong into 
undercloud installation stage.


That's why I want to separate overcloud building images (which is 
actually already there) so that user can easily replace this image with 
different one.


-- Jarda

On 17/04/15 16:18, arkady_kanev...@dell.com wrote:

We need an ability for an Admin to add/remove new images at will to deploy new 
overcloud images at any time.
Expect that it is standard glance functionality.


-Original Message-
From: Jaromir Coufal [mailto:jcou...@redhat.com]
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 8:51 AM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List
Subject: [openstack-dev] [tripleo] Building images separation and moving images 
into right place at right time

Hi All,

at the moment we are building discovery, deploy and overcloud images all at 
once. Then we face user to deal with uploading all images at one step.

User should not be exposed to discovery/deploy images. This should happen 
automatically for the user during undercloud installation as post-config step, 
so that undercloud is usable.

Once user installs undercloud (and have discovery  deploy images at their 
place) he should be able to build / download / create overcloud images (by 
overcloud images I mean overcloud-full.*). This is what user should deal with.

For this we will need to separate building process for discovery+deploy images 
and for overcloud images. Is that possible?

-- Jarda

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