Re: [Openstack-poc] Next meeting: proposal to get openstack-common a proper PTL
Oops! My last week has been a little crazy. Thanks for straightening me out. = ) Jonathan On Aug 7, 2012, at 3:41 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Jonathan Bryce wrote: Does everyone want to cover this and the supporting projects definition tomorrow? Anything else? Heat incubation? We actually voted on the supporting projects definition last week :) And Heat asked to be considered a few weeks after the Grizzly design summit, so it's still a bit early. So the only thing on the agenda so far is openstack-common PTLification. -- Thierry Carrez (ttx) Release Manager, OpenStack ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Openstack-poc] Tomorrow's meeting
No new topics were raised and the discussion on the TC is occurring on the mailing list, so no meeting tomorrow. Please weigh in on the mailing list discussion if you have strong feelings on the TC structure. Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Openstack-poc] Meeting tomorrow
We have 2 requests to use openstack.org for community-related technical projects: one for satellite projects and one as the package name for a java library. Would you all prefer to discuss tomorrow at 3:00 PM CDT/20:00 UTC or over email? Jonathan. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Openstack-poc] Meeting tomorrow
Anyone have anything they would like to discuss tomorrow? After the Essex crush is over, I'd like to discuss the Technical Committee, but I would say do it after this week unless anyone objects. Thierry has a draft in the wiki: http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/Foundation/TechnicalCommittee I think there are a couple of points that are still worth debating: 1) PTL membership on the Technical Committee 2) The concept of a Technical Member We'll have some more discussion on the general mailing list on this, but I wanted to bring it to the current PPB's attention specifically in case you're not following the other closely. Jonathan. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Openstack-poc] Any topics?
Anyone have topics for tomorrow? Jonathan. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack-poc] Design summit status update
Copying Stef so he can chime in. On Mar 12, 2012, at 2:30 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Joshua McKenty wrote: I'd love to get an update on the status of the summit - invite codes, attendance, and session planning. But we can do that offline. I'll let Stefano give an update on invite codes / attendance. For the sessions, the session proposal website will be open tomorrow (announced during the projectrelease meeting). Like for Boston, sessions will be proposed on the site and reviewed by track leads. We are still looking for a volunteer to organize/promote/handle the lightning talks (after lunch every day). Let me know if you have more questions, -- Thierry Carrez (ttx) Release Manager, OpenStack ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack-poc] Meeting tomorrow
Didn't see anything on the list or wiki, so no meeting today. Jonathan. On Mar 5, 2012, at 8:43 AM, Jonathan Bryce wrote: Good catch. Added him as well. Sorry, Dan! On Mar 5, 2012, at 8:08 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Jonathan Bryce wrote: Anything we need to discuss? Read through the logs from last week's meeting and couldn't tell if Monty still needed something from us to move forward with the Satellite CI project. Also, welcome to Joe Heck, the new Keystone PTL and Brian Waldon the new Glance PTL. Results from the elections are available online if you haven't seen them: http://etherpad.openstack.org/xSWPqf6DWE Should we now add DanW (as Quantum PTL) as well ? -- Thierry Carrez (ttx) Release Manager, OpenStack ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Openstack-poc] Topics for tomorrow?
Anyone have anything to talk about for tomorrow? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack-poc] Topics for tomorrow?
Copying in Lauren, Lloyd and Stef. We have a start of an event listing in the wiki: http://wiki.openstack.org/OpenStackUsersGroup/EssexGlobalHackIn Perhaps we can get people to add their office hours and promote more? Jonathan. On Feb 27, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Ewan Mellor wrote: I'd like to see a list of global bug day events, and who's going to be online when, so that we can publicize widely. It would be great to be able to say something like: o Monty Taylor, CI and QA expert, will be on-site at HP in Austin and online between 11am and 5pm Central. o Vish Ishaya, Nova PTL, will be on-site at RCB in San Francisco etc and so on. Is this something that the PPB could / should co-ordinate? I would love for the bug day to be a really public visible event, make it clear to everyone that Essex is going to be awesome. Thanks, Ewan. -Original Message- From: openstack-poc-bounces+ewan.mellor=citrix@lists.launchpad.net [mailto:openstack-poc- bounces+ewan.mellor=citrix@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of Jonathan Bryce Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 8:58 AM To: openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Subject: [Openstack-poc] Topics for tomorrow? Anyone have anything to talk about for tomorrow? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Openstack-poc] Meeting reminder
This is just a reminder that we agreed last week to meet again this week to review progress on Quantum incubation and the questions that were posed. It sounds like there's definitely been progress on the Quantum+Melange and the nova-network plan. Dan, feel free to send along any information that you'd like. Jonathan. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Openstack-poc] Meeting tomorrow
I know it's slightly past the 2 pm cutoff, but would like to go ahead and meet tomorrow to discuss Quantum. Dan is interested in getting Quantum promoted to core for the Folsom release cycle and we need to review soon if we're going to make it. I updated the agenda on the wiki. Jonathan. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack-poc] Meeting tomorrow
Thanks, Jason. Jay, do you still want to discuss this live tomorrow? On Jan 30, 2012, at 3:45 PM, Jason Kölker wrote: On Mon, 2012-01-30 at 13:11 -0500, Jay Pipes wrote: Would it be possible to get an update on the OpenStack Common project from Jason/MarkM/DanW? I'm interested to learn what progress has been made and whether we can expect to see more common code alignment in Essex or Folsom... I think Folsom is more likely to start seeing some more common code. Dan gave us some pointers to things in Quantum that he'd like to see ported over to common. Rajaram was going to start looking into adding a notification system with plugins, not sure if any progress has been made on that front. I can only speak for myself, but I unfortunately won't be able to spend much time on it until after we finish our launch, but after that I'm going to make sure I get some time set aside in a few sprints to start pulling things in and proposing for incubation. First on my list would be using entry_points for defining services/daemons and console_scripts dynamically. Happy Hacking! 7-11 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack-poc] Meeting tomorrow
Sounds good. Since we didn't have any other items before the cutoff, no meeting tomorrow. On Jan 30, 2012, at 5:49 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: No, that's fine as a status update. No need to bring this up tomorrow. Thanks Jason! -jay On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Jonathan Bryce jbr...@jbryce.com wrote: Thanks, Jason. Jay, do you still want to discuss this live tomorrow? On Jan 30, 2012, at 3:45 PM, Jason Kölker wrote: On Mon, 2012-01-30 at 13:11 -0500, Jay Pipes wrote: Would it be possible to get an update on the OpenStack Common project from Jason/MarkM/DanW? I'm interested to learn what progress has been made and whether we can expect to see more common code alignment in Essex or Folsom... I think Folsom is more likely to start seeing some more common code. Dan gave us some pointers to things in Quantum that he'd like to see ported over to common. Rajaram was going to start looking into adding a notification system with plugins, not sure if any progress has been made on that front. I can only speak for myself, but I unfortunately won't be able to spend much time on it until after we finish our launch, but after that I'm going to make sure I get some time set aside in a few sprints to start pulling things in and proposing for incubation. First on my list would be using entry_points for defining services/daemons and console_scripts dynamically. Happy Hacking! 7-11 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Openstack-poc] Tuesday meeting
Nothing on the agenda at this point. If you've got something you'd like to add, put it on the wiki or send an email before 2000 UTC tomorrow. Thanks, Jonathan. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Openstack-poc] Topics for tomorrow?
Anyone have anything for tomorrow? I've got a conflict at the meeting time, so if you have a topic to discuss, you're probably also volunteering to run the meeting. = ) Jonathan. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Openstack-poc] Meeting today
Anyone have anything you'd like to discuss today? Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Openstack-poc] Anyone have topics for today?
I don't have anything this week and it doesn't look like anyone else has added anything to the agenda. Do any of you have anything to discuss? Jonathan. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Openstack-poc] PPB Meeting
Reminder that we have a PPB meeting scheduled at 2000UTC/2:00 PM CST. Does anyone have anything they'd like to cover? One thing that might be worth discussing is a concern several people raised to me last week at Cloud Expo around the Essex release and having some sort of quality gate. It seems like a lot of people definitely want to avoid another release that isn't fully baked at release time. We may want to discuss if there's anything else we should start putting in place now towards that goal. Thoughts? Jonathan. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Openstack-poc] Is it Tuesday again, already?
Anyone have any items to discuss? Looks like Mark Nottingham is taking some steps to move the API guideline discussion forward which was something we were going to touch base on after the conference. Anything else we should follow up on? I need to send out a summary of our in-person meeting, but don't really have anything else. Jonathan. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack-poc] Is it Tuesday again, already?
Let's skip this week then unless anyone objects. I think we'll have a few things to cover next week. Jonathan. On Oct 11, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Joshua McKenty wrote: I'll need another week with the followup to our FITS discussions before I'm ready to bring it back to the PPB. I have some questions about how the PPB will transition to the foundation, but I imagine that's more on the foundation side of the discussion. Backport branches? I spoke with Todd Deshane about taking over the academic coordination activities, but I'm behind on handing off all of those to him. Nothing else for me. Joshua McKenty Piston Cloud Computing, Inc. w: (650) 24-CLOUD m: (650) 283-6846 jos...@pistoncloud.com On 2011-10-11, at 10:08 AM, Jonathan Bryce wrote: Anyone have any items to discuss? Looks like Mark Nottingham is taking some steps to move the API guideline discussion forward which was something we were going to touch base on after the conference. Anything else we should follow up on? I need to send out a summary of our in-person meeting, but don't really have anything else. Jonathan. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Openstack-poc] Meeting tomorrow
How do you all feel about doing our meeting tomorrow over lunch from 1:00-2:00? This seems to be about the only time that's clear. John Dickinson had the idea of putting it on sched as well so anyone interested can attend. Let me know if this works for you all. Thanks, Jonathan. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack-poc] Meeting tomorrow
Thierry, can you add it to the schedule for 1 tomorrow? Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: ++ On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Josh Kearney j...@jk0.org wrote: Works for me. On Oct 3, 2011, at 1:38 PM, Jonathan Bryce jbr...@jbryce.com wrote: How do you all feel about doing our meeting tomorrow over lunch from 1:00-2:00? This seems to be about the only time that's clear. John Dickinson had the idea of putting it on sched as well so anyone interested can attend. Let me know if this works for you all. Thanks, Jonathan. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack-poc] making ppb meetings better (?)
Thanks John for bringing this up and everyone for the input. This is good feedback. Here are a couple of my thoughts on it: 1) I agree that the meetings get rather chaotic at times. I would say that most of the time that situation is less related to non-PPB users and more related to those of us who are PPB members talking over each other. I can easily be more proactive about quieting down community members who might be drawing us off track. I don't think muting is actually a requirement for that. Thierry's suggestion around +v for those who want to have input may be a good implementation if just asking for cooperation doesn't solve it for community feedback. I'd also ask that we try to have more orderly discussions among ourselves and not just a speed-typing death battle royale. 2) I will start sending out a summary note to the full OpenStack list after meetings to try to have everyone be more informed and aware of what we're discussing. 3) Along the lines of getting community feedback, do you all think that we should move to a two-part process where we discuss, send to a summary to the community requesting comments and then vote? Should we just try to gather feedback before we ever discuss? Jonathan. On Sep 12, 2011, at 3:11 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: John Dickinson wrote: I have found the PPB meetings to be very disjointed and hard to follow. A classic example is from our last meeting where 3 votes were proposed and only 2 were voted on. At times we have several conversations going on at once. Sometimes we vote, someone continues the discussion, and then we revote. It's possible that people offering support for an idea (with a +1) may be counted in a vote, even if that person is not on the PPB. These sorts of things tend to push the PPB meetings toward chaos. Yes, I agree. It's the meeting chair's job to keep it focused and on track, but that can be very difficult when the discussion gets out of hand (and it often does in the PPB meeting). 1) What if during the PPB meetings only those people on the PPB were voiced and could speak? I absolutely do not want to discourage valuable input from people not on the PPB, so I think this would require meaningful time allowed for public commentary where anyone and everyone can speak. One implementation would be to mute all non-PPB members in the channel during a vote. Another implementation would be to have designated non-PPB time about each topic, perhaps after initial PPB member discussion. I think a more moderated discussion could perhaps make better use of our limited meeting time and help everyone be more clear on what is being discussed and voted on. That's difficult, because switching from public to private is always seen by people that want to comment as a way to silence them and shut down discussion. I've seen different IRC ways of working around that: a side chat channel that can be used to get direct community feedback, or temporary +v for people with an opinion suggested by members and granted by the chair, so that they can contribute to the discussion in a limited and controlled way. 2) Can we have an official summary of the meetings published after each of the meetings? The notes that the meetbot provides are sparse (at best) and the raw IRC logs are voluminous and hard to read. Yes, communicating the decisions that were made to the people impacted by them seems to be a bare minimum. I would add that we should not vote or discuss on things that were not raised on the mailing-list first. We are a group of smart individuals but we can still miss a critical aspect on a given issue, getting general feedback from the list would (1) give us more data to decide on and (2) limit the critics of PPB taking decisions disconnected from reality. As an example, the API Coordinator topic we've had in the recent meetings is a proposed solution to a problem that was raised (at length) on the mailing-list. Not discussing the proposed solution there sounds like a big mistake to me. We should discuss problems *and* solutions with the rest of the community, and not allow people to bypass community discussion by going to the PPB directly. PPB members are still empowered to make hard decisions and we don't need consensus on the ML before deciding, but not giving the community a chance to raise concerns about a given proposal is unfair (and in some cases unproductive). -- Thierry Carrez (ttx) Release Manager, OpenStack ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More
Re: [Openstack-poc] making ppb meetings better (?)
3) Along the lines of getting community feedback, do you all think that we should move to a two-part process where we discuss, send to a summary to the community requesting comments and then vote? Should we just try to gather feedback before we ever discuss? I'd suggest that for most things the order doesn't matter. However, if the PPB discusses big things first, perhaps we can limit the scope of the discussion and therefore actually get more consensus from the community. For example, with VCS discussions, the community discussion could be limited to A vs B rather than What's teh new hotness that all the ninja rockstar programmers are using? I agree. We often tend to refine or divide a topic up into multiple parts during initial discussion and that will probably help community feedback be more focused. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Openstack-poc] Meeting Items
We have several agenda items for today's meeting at 2000UTC/3:00 PM CDT: http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/PPB 1. Common project tooling and process (autonomy) 2. Github + Gerrit review 3. Deadline for Essex core projects applications For Item 1, I have created a draft in the wiki: http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/Proposed/ProjectToolingAndPractices . Please review and let me know any feedback you have or if I missed any key points from the discussions. I would like to take the content of that page and add it to the previously approved project page (http://wiki.openstack.org/ProjectTypes) which already discussed some of the philosophy issues. Thanks, Jonathan.___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Openstack-poc] Meeting tomorrow
As a reminder, we have a Policy Board meeting scheduled for tomorrow in the hour before the weekly team meeting. The Policy Board meeting is 2000 UTC/3:00 PM CDT. We currently have two incubation applications on the agenda. If you get an opportunity, please try to review them before the meeting tomorrow. Do you think we should try to have Sebastian and Devin present in the meeting to answer questions or discuss first without them? Scalr incubation application - http://wiki.openstack.org/Scalr Dashboard incubation application - http://wiki.openstack.org/Projects/IncubatorApplication/OpenStackDashboard Let me know if there's anything else you'd like to discuss, Jonathan.___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack-poc] PPB meeting tomorrow
Earlier is fine with me if that makes it easier for others. Does 1900 UTC/2:00 PM CDT Monday work as a new time for everyone? Jonathan. On Apr 14, 2011, at 8:00 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Soren Hansen wrote: Not sure why, but I didn't get Jonathan's original post in this thread. Anyways, a meeting on Friday evening at 11? Um... No :) Yes, this is also suboptimal for me, obviously... OK for Monday. Any chance we could move to slightly earlier in the day, like 1900 UTC (9pm in Europe, 12pm/2pm for Pacific/Central) ? -- Thierry Carrez (ttx) Release Manager, OpenStack ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Openstack-poc] PPB Meeting tomorrow
Anyone have any agenda items for tomorrow? Thierry has scheduled a session at the design summit to talk releases which was a pending item. I don't have anything else to discuss right now. Jonathan. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack-poc] PPB Meeting
All right...in the absence of any strong votes to do it and several to skip, we'll skip this week. And I will get the calendar/reminders set up that we talked about last week. Thanks, Jonathan. On Mar 24, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Joshua McKenty wrote: Ill be running to the airport, so skipping it is better for me. Sent from my iPhone On 2011-03-24, at 12:13, John Purrier j...@openstack.org wrote: I am OK with whatever the group decides. John -Original Message- From: openstack-poc-bounces+john=openstack@lists.launchpad.net [mailto:openstack-poc-bounces+john=openstack@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of Ewan Mellor Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 10:01 AM To: Jonathan Bryce; openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openstack-poc] PPB Meeting I don't have anything for the agenda -- happy to skip it. Ewan. -Original Message- From: openstack-poc-bounces+ewan.mellor=citrix@lists.launchpad.net [mailto:openstack-poc- bounces+ewan.mellor=citrix@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of Jonathan Bryce Sent: 24 March 2011 14:59 To: openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Subject: [Openstack-poc] PPB Meeting Hi guys, I'm traveling and got my days confused. I didn't realize it was Thursday until Chuck emailed me a few minutes ago. Vish is traveling too and I don't think either of us would be able to make the meeting today. I'm happy to have someone else run the meeting or to reschedule. Whichever you guys prefer. Just let me know. Sorry for dropping the ball on it! Jonathan. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack-poc] Meeting today
All right. Let's try for IRC. T minus 1 hour. That's how all you NASA related guys talk, right? Jonathan. On Mar 17, 2011, at 1:35 PM, Joshua McKenty wrote: +1 for that - can do IRC, am happy with email. Joshua McKenty Piston Cloud Computing, Inc. (650) 283-6846 jos...@piston.cc On 2011-03-17, at 10:36 AM, Ewan Mellor wrote: I'm available today if you want to go ahead with this. I don't mind just following up with email though. Cheers, Ewan. -Original Message- From: openstack-poc-bounces+ewan.mellor=citrix@lists.launchpad.net [mailto:openstack-poc- bounces+ewan.mellor=citrix@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of Jonathan Bryce Sent: 17 March 2011 16:52 To: openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openstack-poc] Meeting today Jesse said he would be able to do 20:00 UTC/3:00 PM CDT today. We have three items that we needed to close out on: 1. Incubation/new project process - http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/Proposed/NewProjectProcess - Was updated to include comments and recommendations from last week's meeting. 2. Standards body activity - http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/Proposed/StandardsCommittee - Seems like we generally agree we should reject for now and let individual companies handle this. 3. Splitting existing project - http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/Proposed/SplitExistingProjectProce ss - This is a proposal that I put together based on the discussion of the topic in last week's meeting. They've all been discussed to some extent. We can vote on them this afternoon or vote over email. If we aren't going to have enough IRC participation this afternoon, it's probably easier/faster/more convenient to just handle them over email and skip today's meeting. If there are other items that anyone wants to discuss, I'm happy to go ahead with the meeting as well. One other thing: John Purrier has taken over Mark Interrante's appointed seat and is now a member. Let me know what you all want to do for today. Jonathan. On Mar 16, 2011, at 12:20 PM, Jonathan Bryce wrote: 20:00 UTC is now 3:00 PM CDT. I think Jesse and Vish potentially had a recurring conflict with that time on Thursdays. Jesse, Vish, is that correct? I can do either. We've had low attendance the last couple of meetings, so I would like to find a time that actually works for people. Jonathan. On Mar 10, 2011, at 3:08 PM, Ewan Mellor wrote: Goddamn it. I've just entered the channel at 21:00 UTC on the dot. I obviously missed the time change. What did I miss? And are we sticking with 20:00 UTC from now on? In particular, US clocks move this weekend for DST. Ewan. -Original Message- From: openstack-poc- bounces+ewan.mellor=citrix@lists.launchpad.net [mailto:openstack-poc- bounces+ewan.mellor=citrix@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of Jonathan Bryce Sent: 10 March 2011 16:26 To: openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Subject: [Openstack-poc] Meeting today We're scheduled for a meeting today at 20:00 UTC/2:00 PM CST. Who's going to be able to make it? I know several of you are traveling. Jonathan. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack-poc] Meeting today
20:00 UTC is now 3:00 PM CDT. I think Jesse and Vish potentially had a recurring conflict with that time on Thursdays. Jesse, Vish, is that correct? I can do either. We've had low attendance the last couple of meetings, so I would like to find a time that actually works for people. Jonathan. On Mar 10, 2011, at 3:08 PM, Ewan Mellor wrote: Goddamn it. I've just entered the channel at 21:00 UTC on the dot. I obviously missed the time change. What did I miss? And are we sticking with 20:00 UTC from now on? In particular, US clocks move this weekend for DST. Ewan. -Original Message- From: openstack-poc-bounces+ewan.mellor=citrix@lists.launchpad.net [mailto:openstack-poc- bounces+ewan.mellor=citrix@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of Jonathan Bryce Sent: 10 March 2011 16:26 To: openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Subject: [Openstack-poc] Meeting today We're scheduled for a meeting today at 20:00 UTC/2:00 PM CST. Who's going to be able to make it? I know several of you are traveling. Jonathan. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Openstack-poc] Meeting today
We're scheduled for a meeting today at 20:00 UTC/2:00 PM CST. Who's going to be able to make it? I know several of you are traveling. Jonathan. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack-poc] Meeting this week
Reminder that we've got a meeting today at 2100UTC/3:00 PM central. On Feb 15, 2011, at 11:02 AM, Jonathan Bryce wrote: In the meeting last week, we approved the 2011 Scope and Charter and discussed the image format proposal and intermediate releases without any final decision. John Purrier and others are discussing the Image Format proposal for changes based off the feedback from Ewan. You can read the minutes and logs from the meeting here: http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/POC/PocMeetingLogs Since we didn't get through everything, we wanted to meet again at the same time this week--Thursday 2/17 at 2100 UTC/3:00 PM central. Here's the agenda I have so far. Send me anything else you'd like to get on there. 1) Continue release discussion - Current thought was to allow projects to decide to do intermediate releases between major releases if needed and work with the release manager to backport appropriate fixes and package a point release. 2) Google Summer of Code 3) Incubation/new project process - We had an idea thrown out last week to create a community of related projects that allowed developers to add themselves and their code to a system like userscripts.org. The projects are then voted up and down by the community and the relevant projects that are the highest rated are candidates for inclusion as full OpenStack projects. Let me know if the time will not work for any of you. Thanks! Jonathan. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc Post to : openstack-poc@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack-poc More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
