RE: [OS-webwork] Woohoo!

2003-01-17 Thread Jason Carreira
Title: Message



Well, 
it really came down to usability issues. We looked at things like having to have 
separate FormBeans tied to the Actions 1-1 (because you have to cast to the 
expected FormBean subclass). Also,we looked at some sample code for Struts 
and Webwork (we looked at code for Chiki, a Wiki implemented with Struts, and 
Jira. Thanks Mike for having clean code!). It was very apparent that you had to 
do a lot of busy work to initialize things and do the setup that the framework 
should have done for you in Struts, whereas in Webwork, it was pretty much all 
business code. Command driven actions were also a big hit, as our lead architect 
came from a Next background, and apparently they did code like that all the 
time. In general, I think it was just a general feeling that Webwork was better 
abstracted and architected than Struts.

Other 
advantages, like the ValueStack and the expression language, were less easy to 
express, since they hadn't begun to use them yet. 

Some 
of the concerns were (in no order):

-Less 
userbase - I pointed out that with a smaller project we have a better chance of 
making changes and making WW do what we need
-JSTL 
and JSF support 
-tool 
support

  
  -Original Message-From: Volkmann, Mark 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 
  2003 5:52 PMTo: 
  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: 
  [OS-webwork] Woohoo!
  Can you share with us the justification you used for using 
  WebWork instead of Struts? Others may find it useful. Perhaps 
  you've already done that and I accidently deleted the email. If so, 
  could you resend it to me?
   -Original Message-  
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   Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 3:13 PM 
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   Subject: [OS-webwork] Woohoo!So we 
  had our Webwork vs. Struts talk today, and I was able  to convince  people here that there 
  was sufficiently enough better about WW to make  
  us use it instead of Struts, even though Struts is the "standard", of 
   sorts! Cool.  
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[OS-webwork] Woohoo!

2003-01-16 Thread Jason Carreira
So we had our Webwork vs. Struts talk today, and I was able to convince
people here that there was sufficiently enough better about WW to make
us use it instead of Struts, even though Struts is the standard, of
sorts! Cool. 

Off to catch a plane home...

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Technical Architect, Notiva Corp.
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  fax:  585.272.8118
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Re: [OS-webwork] Woohoo!

2003-01-16 Thread Robert Nicholson
Can you summarize the points of that presentation?

On Thursday, January 16, 2003, at 09:12  PM, Jason Carreira wrote:


So we had our Webwork vs. Struts talk today, and I was able to convince
people here that there was sufficiently enough better about WW to make
us use it instead of Struts, even though Struts is the standard, of
sorts! Cool.

Off to catch a plane home...

--
Jason Carreira
Technical Architect, Notiva Corp.
phone:	585.240.2793
  fax:	585.272.8118
email:	[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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