Re: [OS-webwork] XWork flux
Joseph Ottinger wrote: Can we PLEASE get back to useful discussion? I'm interested in seeing if XWork is usable, and how much in flux it's considered to be. Alright, I'd estimate that the fluxness of XWork is about 70%. Which doesn't mean a whole lot I guess. Wait and see. /Rickard -- Rickard Öberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senselogic Got blog? I do. http://dreambean.com --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Opensymphony-webwork mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opensymphony-webwork
Re: [OS-webwork] XWork flux
What areas are likely to change the most? I personally can see webwork2's functionality being expanded to feature-completeness (I *think* - is there a list around that actually goes into what feature-complete would mean?) and configuration on both xwork and webwork 2. Do you see core changes going in? On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, [ISO-8859-1] Rickard Öberg wrote: Joseph Ottinger wrote: Can we PLEASE get back to useful discussion? I'm interested in seeing if XWork is usable, and how much in flux it's considered to be. Alright, I'd estimate that the fluxness of XWork is about 70%. Which doesn't mean a whole lot I guess. Wait and see. /Rickard - Joseph B. Ottinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://enigmastation.comIT Consultant --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Opensymphony-webwork mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opensymphony-webwork
Re: [OS-webwork] XWork flux
On Thursday, Jan 30, 2003, at 14:30 Europe/London, Rickard Öberg wrote: Joseph Ottinger wrote: Can we PLEASE get back to useful discussion? I'm interested in seeing if XWork is usable, and how much in flux it's considered to be. Alright, I'd estimate that the fluxness of XWork is about 70%. Rickard, just a thought, but how much of the code in XWork is derived form (or at least, similar in principle to) your own AOP framework? I get the feeling that there could be a significant amount of overlap between the two in terms of configuration, interceptors, etc. Which doesn't mean a whole lot I guess. Wait and see. Okay :) Regards, Simon --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Opensymphony-webwork mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opensymphony-webwork
Re: [OS-webwork] XWork flux
Simon Stewart wrote: Rickard, just a thought, but how much of the code in XWork is derived form (or at least, similar in principle to) your own AOP framework? I get the feeling that there could be a significant amount of overlap between the two in terms of configuration, interceptors, etc. Not a whole lot really. The XWork stuff is highly specialized for the thing it does, whereas my AOP framework is totally generic. Some of the configuration is similar, like packages and such, but still very very different. I use runtime attributes a lot for configuration, which isn't possible here (for example). The ideas are similar though. /Rickard -- Rickard Öberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senselogic Got blog? I do. http://dreambean.com --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Opensymphony-webwork mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opensymphony-webwork
Re: [OS-webwork] XWork flux
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 04:20:52PM +0100, Rickard Öberg wrote: Simon Stewart wrote: Rickard, just a thought, but how much of the code in XWork is derived form (or at least, similar in principle to) your own AOP framework? I get the feeling that there could be a significant amount of overlap between the two in terms of configuration, interceptors, etc. Not a whole lot really. The XWork stuff is highly specialized for the thing it does, whereas my AOP framework is totally generic. Some of the configuration is similar, like packages and such, but still very very different. I use runtime attributes a lot for configuration, which isn't possible here (for example). The ideas are similar though. How does nanning fit into xwork? (http://nanning.sf.net/) Nanning is a open source AOP library. IMHO the whole interceptor stuff in xwork can be modeled using nanning. -billy. -- Meisterbohne Söflinger Straße 100 Tel: +49-731-399 499-0 eLösungen 89077 Ulm Fax: +49-731-399 499-9 msg01498/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: [OS-webwork] XWork flux
-Original Message- From: Joseph Ottinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] XWork flux What areas are likely to change the most? I personally can see webwork2's functionality being expanded to feature-completeness (I *think* - is there a list around that actually goes into what feature-complete would mean?) and configuration on both xwork and webwork 2. Do you see core changes going in? Oh, other than the ThreadLocal thing, there are also remaining questions about Ognl and whether we can plug in our EL, or whether it should be undertaken to re-architect our existing EL for performance. Jason --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Opensymphony-webwork mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opensymphony-webwork
RE: [OS-webwork] XWork flux
How does nanning fit into xwork? (http://nanning.sf.net/) Nanning is a open source AOP library. IMHO the whole interceptor stuff in xwork can be modeled using nanning. -billy. Hey! We've already GOT interceptors! AOP is cool and all, but I don't think it's necessary to use AOP for interceptors here. The interceptors in Xwork work pretty darned well (if I do say so myself) :-) --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Opensymphony-webwork mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opensymphony-webwork
Re: [OS-webwork] XWork flux
Philipp Meier wrote: How does nanning fit into xwork? (http://nanning.sf.net/) Nanning is a open source AOP library. IMHO the whole interceptor stuff in xwork can be modeled using nanning. I doubt that it would be worth the overhead. As I said, the current architecture is good because it uses all the basic AOP ideas while still remaining efficient. /Rickard -- Rickard Öberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senselogic Got blog? I do. http://dreambean.com --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Opensymphony-webwork mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opensymphony-webwork
