Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] ADSL Drivers

2013-11-07 Thread Rafał Miłecki
2013/11/6 Ernesto forosylis...@ernet.com.ar:
 I've read on http://wiki.openwrt.org/inbox/adsl_support that a user named
 lorema is making progress towards open ADSL drivers. I'd like to contact him
 to ask information about how to replicate his experiences, but I don't know
 how to find his email.

 Where do you find this kind of info?

By looking at the linked OpenWrt forum thread [0] I can see that
lorema is trying to recompile leaked non-GPL sources.
If he success or not has no real meaning for OpenWrt or Linux world,
because that will be illegal to push his code to the kernel. I'm not
sure if it's even OK to distribute that code (I doubt a bit).

The right way to add support for ADSL is to:
1) Find a group that will write the specs. How they do this doesn't
matter. They can RE binary or whatever else they manage to. Please
remember that as soon as they get involved in that process, they won't
be allowed to work on GPL driver anymore.
2) Find a group that will use prepared specs to write a GPL driver.

It's called clean room engineering. It was previously used for
Broadcom wireless chipsets and resulted in b43 driver.

It seems that specs were started, but I guess they are far from being complete:
http://bcm63xx.sipsolutions.net/

[0] https://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?pid=120035#p120035

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Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] ADSL Drivers

2013-11-07 Thread Ernesto

Dear Rafal,

Thanks for your answer. I understand your point and agree with you 100%.

But what if I wanted to contact lorema anyway? Or any other user of whom 
I only had username? What should I do?


Regards.

El 07/11/2013 10:58, Rafał Miłecki escribió:

2013/11/6 Ernesto forosylis...@ernet.com.ar:
I've read on http://wiki.openwrt.org/inbox/adsl_support that a user 
named
lorema is making progress towards open ADSL drivers. I'd like to 
contact him
to ask information about how to replicate his experiences, but I don't 
know

how to find his email.

Where do you find this kind of info?


By looking at the linked OpenWrt forum thread [0] I can see that
lorema is trying to recompile leaked non-GPL sources.
If he success or not has no real meaning for OpenWrt or Linux world,
because that will be illegal to push his code to the kernel. I'm not
sure if it's even OK to distribute that code (I doubt a bit).

The right way to add support for ADSL is to:
1) Find a group that will write the specs. How they do this doesn't
matter. They can RE binary or whatever else they manage to. Please
remember that as soon as they get involved in that process, they won't
be allowed to work on GPL driver anymore.
2) Find a group that will use prepared specs to write a GPL driver.

It's called clean room engineering. It was previously used for
Broadcom wireless chipsets and resulted in b43 driver.

It seems that specs were started, but I guess they are far from being 
complete:

http://bcm63xx.sipsolutions.net/

[0] https://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?pid=120035#p120035

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[OpenWrt-Devel] ADSL Drivers

2013-11-06 Thread Ernesto

Hi,

I've read on http://wiki.openwrt.org/inbox/adsl_support that a user 
named lorema is making progress towards open ADSL drivers. I'd like to 
contact him to ask information about how to replicate his experiences, 
but I don't know how to find his email.


Where do you find this kind of info?

I'm sorry if this email is not supposed to be on this list, I asked with 
email to the OpenWrt Relationship Manager without success, and I don't 
know where else to ask.


Regards.
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