Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Inquery
On 11/12/2019 15:22, Daniel Golle wrote: As a community, we decided to give our self a set of minimal rules[1]. And even though it is in the last position, rule #12 "Be nice to each other." is meant just as serious as all the other rules. So here, not for the first time, you are using language which has the only purpose to hurt other people (for which reason ever, it doesn't matter). This is therefore a very clear violation to the above mentioned rule. You statement "suck it" (guess what) is also an obvious and disgusting example of a masculist culture which hurts our community as a whole and I strongly believe we should not tolerate that. And yes this was a spam mail. And it's even needless to say that replying to a spam email in which ever way will always make it worse. But that's not the point here and I will not engage in any discussion on that matter. Please learn to behave or leave us alone. [1]:https://openwrt.org/rules +1 And, +1 from me - thanks. /ted ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Inquery
On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 2:01 AM Daniel Golle wrote: > > Hi Alberto, > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 08:32:41PM +0100, Alberto Bursi wrote: > > > > > > On 11/12/19 18:54, Daniel Golle wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 05:37:26PM +0100, WRT Burner wrote: > > > > On 11/12/2019 15:22, Daniel Golle wrote: > > > > > And it's even needless to say that > > > > > replying to a spam email in which ever way will always make it worse. > > > > > > > > +1. There is no constructive value in replying to spam. Let's keep > > > > openwrt-devel > > > > nice and clean. > > > > > > > > On 11/12/2019 15:22, Daniel Golle wrote: > > > > > You statement "suck it" (guess what) is also an obvious > > > > > and disgusting example of a masculist culture which hurts our > > > > > community > > > > > as a whole and I strongly believe we should not tolerate that. > > > > > > > > -1. This is a software development mailing list, not tumblr.com. > > > > > > '-1'? So I get right, you are saying it's ok to be insulting other > > > people because this mailing list is about software development? > > > If that's really what you wanted to say, I'm glad that's only a single > > > individual opinion coming from an email address which has never > > > actually been used on this mailing list. > > > And btw, this is your first 'contribution', and it's not even about > > > software development... > > > > > > > He is just disappointed at your pointing out the "masculinist culture" in a > > place where he expected more maturity. > > Maybe I don't understand this level of maturity where it can be > alright to use language which has the only purpose to deliberately > hurt other people. Maybe I even hope I will never get that 'mature'. > > I pointed out the masculinist culture a statement like his > originates from just because that's what it is. Correct me if I'm > getting something wrong, but "suck it" basically says, "I'm the male > in the room here, so your rights are limited to please me sexually". > To me is not a border-line grey-zone of overdoing political > correctness and forcing everybody to use lots of virtue signalling > and a very specificly coded language changing every two weeks accoring > to fashion standards. It's not that he failed to use gender-correct > language or wrongly assumed someones identity or any of those things > which happen a lot without any bad intention involved. > But what Tom wrote was **meant** as an insult. > > > > > Yours is mostly SJW-speak and I'm also not fond of it, I'll explain why. > > It is a double-edged blade. > > In this case your definition is technically correct, we all know what "suck > > it" implies. > > But this highly polarizing approach to life and people can (and does, > > especially in its dens like tumblr.com as mentioned) slippery slope into > > full blown hate and reverse oppression, which is equally bad. > > I guess I partially agree with you one that. I have never visited > tumblr nor know much about what's happening there. To me, "social > justice" sounds like something desireable, however, I can also see that > the fight for that is also being misused to call-out on people who > didn't intend to do any harm to anyone in some cases. > > However, I don't think we need this debate here in this case, as very > clearly "suck it" is just very obviously not nice, ie. violates the > rule #12 "be nice to each other". > > > > > I'm not impressed by your reaction here, first thing you do is a blatant > > strawman logical fallacy and then proceed to attack him on his personal > > values as a person without even asking to clarify his position first. > > He just posted a single short sentence, for heaven's sake. > > > > This is EXACTLY an example of slippery slope into blind hate rage as I said > > above, and exactly why this kind of polarizing categorizations and > > statements should be avoided at all costs in a serious and sane environment. > > > > We should really not jump at each other's throats on a moment's notice like > > that, especially not in a software development mailing list. > > I did asked for claritication, because it wasn't clear to me (see my > reply, there are some "if"s). I didn't make any assumptions on his > values, I was surprised and hoping that this would turn out to be just > a case of misunderstanding each other. Simply because it's hard for me > to imagine a setting where it would be ok to write "suck it" just > because this is about software development (and I still fail to follow > that logic, maybe you can explain that to me off-list). > > I also agree that I don't want people to the scared to be super correct > and this is not the place to discuss subtle language details, for the > exact same reason that we will loose potential contributors. > > Needless to say that WRT_Burner showed up out of nowhere (let me guess > what 'burner' means in that choice of a name) It's a spam message. The response by Tom may have been heavy but it's nothing to cause commotion over. That is
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Inquery
+1 11 Dec 2019 15:22:44 Daniel Golle : > Hi Tomislav, > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 11:24:21AM +0100, Tom Psyborg wrote: > > > suck it > > > > As a community, we decided to give our self a set of minimal rules[1]. > And even though it is in the last position, rule #12 "Be nice to each > other." is meant just as serious as all the other rules. > > So here, not for the first time, you are using language which has the > only purpose to hurt other people (for which reason ever, it doesn't > matter). This is therefore a very clear violation to the above > mentioned rule. You statement "suck it" (guess what) is also an obvious > and disgusting example of a masculist culture which hurts our community > as a whole and I strongly believe we should not tolerate that. > > And yes this was a spam mail. And it's even needless to say that > replying to a spam email in which ever way will always make it worse. > But that's not the point here and I will not engage in any discussion > on that matter. > > Please learn to behave or leave us alone. > > [1]: https://openwrt.org/rules > > > > > > > On 11/12/2019, rqgxfc wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Sir ? > > > > > > We are a trading company named Shaanxi Hao Zi Guan Materials Co.,Ltd . Now > > > we are very interested in your products , we will plan to sell your > > > products in the Chinese market . If you are interested in cooperation, > > > please send us a catalog and pricelist .w > > > Looking forward to receiving your reply . > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Catherina > > > > > > > ___ > > openwrt-devel mailing list > > openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org > > https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel > > > > ___ > openwrt-devel mailing list > openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org > https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel > ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Inquery
Hi Alberto, On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 08:32:41PM +0100, Alberto Bursi wrote: > > > On 11/12/19 18:54, Daniel Golle wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 05:37:26PM +0100, WRT Burner wrote: > > > On 11/12/2019 15:22, Daniel Golle wrote: > > > > And it's even needless to say that > > > > replying to a spam email in which ever way will always make it worse. > > > > > > +1. There is no constructive value in replying to spam. Let's keep > > > openwrt-devel > > > nice and clean. > > > > > > On 11/12/2019 15:22, Daniel Golle wrote: > > > > You statement "suck it" (guess what) is also an obvious > > > > and disgusting example of a masculist culture which hurts our community > > > > as a whole and I strongly believe we should not tolerate that. > > > > > > -1. This is a software development mailing list, not tumblr.com. > > > > '-1'? So I get right, you are saying it's ok to be insulting other > > people because this mailing list is about software development? > > If that's really what you wanted to say, I'm glad that's only a single > > individual opinion coming from an email address which has never > > actually been used on this mailing list. > > And btw, this is your first 'contribution', and it's not even about > > software development... > > > > He is just disappointed at your pointing out the "masculinist culture" in a > place where he expected more maturity. Maybe I don't understand this level of maturity where it can be alright to use language which has the only purpose to deliberately hurt other people. Maybe I even hope I will never get that 'mature'. I pointed out the masculinist culture a statement like his originates from just because that's what it is. Correct me if I'm getting something wrong, but "suck it" basically says, "I'm the male in the room here, so your rights are limited to please me sexually". To me is not a border-line grey-zone of overdoing political correctness and forcing everybody to use lots of virtue signalling and a very specificly coded language changing every two weeks accoring to fashion standards. It's not that he failed to use gender-correct language or wrongly assumed someones identity or any of those things which happen a lot without any bad intention involved. But what Tom wrote was **meant** as an insult. > > Yours is mostly SJW-speak and I'm also not fond of it, I'll explain why. > It is a double-edged blade. > In this case your definition is technically correct, we all know what "suck > it" implies. > But this highly polarizing approach to life and people can (and does, > especially in its dens like tumblr.com as mentioned) slippery slope into > full blown hate and reverse oppression, which is equally bad. I guess I partially agree with you one that. I have never visited tumblr nor know much about what's happening there. To me, "social justice" sounds like something desireable, however, I can also see that the fight for that is also being misused to call-out on people who didn't intend to do any harm to anyone in some cases. However, I don't think we need this debate here in this case, as very clearly "suck it" is just very obviously not nice, ie. violates the rule #12 "be nice to each other". > > I'm not impressed by your reaction here, first thing you do is a blatant > strawman logical fallacy and then proceed to attack him on his personal > values as a person without even asking to clarify his position first. > He just posted a single short sentence, for heaven's sake. > > This is EXACTLY an example of slippery slope into blind hate rage as I said > above, and exactly why this kind of polarizing categorizations and > statements should be avoided at all costs in a serious and sane environment. > > We should really not jump at each other's throats on a moment's notice like > that, especially not in a software development mailing list. I did asked for claritication, because it wasn't clear to me (see my reply, there are some "if"s). I didn't make any assumptions on his values, I was surprised and hoping that this would turn out to be just a case of misunderstanding each other. Simply because it's hard for me to imagine a setting where it would be ok to write "suck it" just because this is about software development (and I still fail to follow that logic, maybe you can explain that to me off-list). I also agree that I don't want people to the scared to be super correct and this is not the place to discuss subtle language details, for the exact same reason that we will loose potential contributors. Needless to say that WRT_Burner showed up out of nowhere (let me guess what 'burner' means in that choice of a name) Cheers Daniel ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Inquery
Rosen Penev schreef op 11 december 2019 22:17:34 CET: >On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 11:32 AM Alberto Bursi > wrote: >> >> >> >> On 11/12/19 18:54, Daniel Golle wrote: >> > On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 05:37:26PM +0100, WRT Burner wrote: >> >> On 11/12/2019 15:22, Daniel Golle wrote: >> >>> And it's even needless to say that >> >>> replying to a spam email in which ever way will always make it >worse. >> >> >> >> +1. There is no constructive value in replying to spam. Let's keep >openwrt-devel >> >> nice and clean. >> >> >> >> On 11/12/2019 15:22, Daniel Golle wrote: >> >>> You statement "suck it" (guess what) is also an obvious >> >>> and disgusting example of a masculist culture which hurts our >community >> >>> as a whole and I strongly believe we should not tolerate that. >> >> >> >> -1. This is a software development mailing list, not tumblr.com. >> > >> > '-1'? So I get right, you are saying it's ok to be insulting other >> > people because this mailing list is about software development? >> > If that's really what you wanted to say, I'm glad that's only a >single >> > individual opinion coming from an email address which has never >> > actually been used on this mailing list. >> > And btw, this is your first 'contribution', and it's not even about >> > software development... >> > >> >> He is just disappointed at your pointing out the "masculinist >culture" >> in a place where he expected more maturity. >> >> Yours is mostly SJW-speak and I'm also not fond of it, I'll explain >why. >> It is a double-edged blade. >> In this case your definition is technically correct, we all know what >> "suck it" implies. >> But this highly polarizing approach to life and people can (and does, >> especially in its dens like tumblr.com as mentioned) slippery slope >into >> full blown hate and reverse oppression, which is equally bad. >> >> I'm not impressed by your reaction here, first thing you do is a >blatant >> strawman logical fallacy and then proceed to attack him on his >personal >> values as a person without even asking to clarify his position first. >> He just posted a single short sentence, for heaven's sake. >> >> This is EXACTLY an example of slippery slope into blind hate rage as >I >> said above, and exactly why this kind of polarizing categorizations >and >> statements should be avoided at all costs in a serious and sane >environment. >> >> We should really not jump at each other's throats on a moment's >notice >> like that, especially not in a software development mailing list. >+1 > >Unnecessary drama is not neStijn Very much so. Thank you for this voice of reason. Stijn >> >> -Alberto >> >> ___ >> openwrt-devel mailing list >> openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org >> https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel > >___ >openwrt-devel mailing list >openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org >https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Inquery
On Wednesday, 11 December 2019 15:22:09 CET Daniel Golle wrote: > Hi Tomislav, > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 11:24:21AM +0100, Tom Psyborg wrote: > > suck it > > As a community, we decided to give our self a set of minimal rules[1]. > And even though it is in the last position, rule #12 "Be nice to each > other." is meant just as serious as all the other rules. > > So here, not for the first time, you are using language which has the > only purpose to hurt other people (for which reason ever, it doesn't > matter). This is therefore a very clear violation to the above > mentioned rule. You statement "suck it" (guess what) is also an obvious > and disgusting example of a masculist culture which hurts our community > as a whole and I strongly believe we should not tolerate that. > > And yes this was a spam mail. And it's even needless to say that > replying to a spam email in which ever way will always make it worse. > But that's not the point here and I will not engage in any discussion > on that matter. > > Please learn to behave or leave us alone. > > [1]: https://openwrt.org/rules +1 Thanks Daniel for the effort drawing attention to this issue ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Inquery
> -Original Message- > From: openwrt-devel [mailto:openwrt-devel-boun...@lists.openwrt.org] > On Behalf Of Daniel Golle > Sent: Mittwoch, 11. Dezember 2019 15:22 > To: Tom Psyborg > Cc: openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org > Subject: Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Inquery > > Hi Tomislav, > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 11:24:21AM +0100, Tom Psyborg wrote: > > suck it > > As a community, we decided to give our self a set of minimal rules[1]. > And even though it is in the last position, rule #12 "Be nice to each other." > is > meant just as serious as all the other rules. > > So here, not for the first time, you are using language which has the only > purpose to hurt other people (for which reason ever, it doesn't matter). This > is therefore a very clear violation to the above mentioned rule. You > statement "suck it" (guess what) is also an obvious and disgusting example of > a masculist culture which hurts our community as a whole and I strongly > believe we should not tolerate that. > > And yes this was a spam mail. And it's even needless to say that replying to a > spam email in which ever way will always make it worse. > But that's not the point here and I will not engage in any discussion on that > matter. > > Please learn to behave or leave us alone. +1 The latest reply from Tom forced me to also express my consent with what Daniel wrote here. I indeed think his reaction is very appropriate, keeping it to the matter of fact where the recent history of Tom's "contributions" might have tempted other people to react less sensibly. Adrian > > [1]: https://openwrt.org/rules > > > > > > On 11/12/2019, rqgxfc wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello Sir ， > > > > > > We are a trading company named Shaanxi Hao Zi Guan Materials Co.,Ltd > . > > > Now > > > we are very interested in your products , we will plan to sell your > > > products in the Chinese market . If you are interested in > > > cooperation, please send us a catalog and pricelist .w Looking > > > forward to receiving your reply . > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Catherina > > > > ___ > > openwrt-devel mailing list > > openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org > > https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel > > ___ > openwrt-devel mailing list > openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org > https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel openpgp-digital-signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Inquery
On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 11:32 AM Alberto Bursi wrote: > > > > On 11/12/19 18:54, Daniel Golle wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 05:37:26PM +0100, WRT Burner wrote: > >> On 11/12/2019 15:22, Daniel Golle wrote: > >>> And it's even needless to say that > >>> replying to a spam email in which ever way will always make it worse. > >> > >> +1. There is no constructive value in replying to spam. Let's keep > >> openwrt-devel > >> nice and clean. > >> > >> On 11/12/2019 15:22, Daniel Golle wrote: > >>> You statement "suck it" (guess what) is also an obvious > >>> and disgusting example of a masculist culture which hurts our community > >>> as a whole and I strongly believe we should not tolerate that. > >> > >> -1. This is a software development mailing list, not tumblr.com. > > > > '-1'? So I get right, you are saying it's ok to be insulting other > > people because this mailing list is about software development? > > If that's really what you wanted to say, I'm glad that's only a single > > individual opinion coming from an email address which has never > > actually been used on this mailing list. > > And btw, this is your first 'contribution', and it's not even about > > software development... > > > > He is just disappointed at your pointing out the "masculinist culture" > in a place where he expected more maturity. > > Yours is mostly SJW-speak and I'm also not fond of it, I'll explain why. > It is a double-edged blade. > In this case your definition is technically correct, we all know what > "suck it" implies. > But this highly polarizing approach to life and people can (and does, > especially in its dens like tumblr.com as mentioned) slippery slope into > full blown hate and reverse oppression, which is equally bad. > > I'm not impressed by your reaction here, first thing you do is a blatant > strawman logical fallacy and then proceed to attack him on his personal > values as a person without even asking to clarify his position first. > He just posted a single short sentence, for heaven's sake. > > This is EXACTLY an example of slippery slope into blind hate rage as I > said above, and exactly why this kind of polarizing categorizations and > statements should be avoided at all costs in a serious and sane environment. > > We should really not jump at each other's throats on a moment's notice > like that, especially not in a software development mailing list. +1 Unnecessary drama is not needed. > > -Alberto > > ___ > openwrt-devel mailing list > openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org > https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Inquery
On 11/12/2019, Daniel Golle wrote: > Hi Tomislav, > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 11:24:21AM +0100, Tom Psyborg wrote: >> suck it > > As a community, we decided to give our self a set of minimal rules[1]. > And even though it is in the last position, rule #12 "Be nice to each > other." is meant just as serious as all the other rules. > > So here, not for the first time, you are using language which has the > only purpose to hurt other people (for which reason ever, it doesn't > matter). This is therefore a very clear violation to the above > mentioned rule. You statement "suck it" (guess what) is also an obvious > and disgusting example of a masculist culture which hurts our community > as a whole and I strongly believe we should not tolerate that. > > And yes this was a spam mail. And it's even needless to say that > replying to a spam email in which ever way will always make it worse. > But that's not the point here and I will not engage in any discussion > on that matter. > > Please learn to behave or leave us alone. > i take "us" for a couple of you hire chinese or create dupe account to spam with your nonsense. otherwise your +1 replies indeed do make it worse ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Inquery
On 11/12/19 18:54, Daniel Golle wrote: On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 05:37:26PM +0100, WRT Burner wrote: On 11/12/2019 15:22, Daniel Golle wrote: And it's even needless to say that replying to a spam email in which ever way will always make it worse. +1. There is no constructive value in replying to spam. Let's keep openwrt-devel nice and clean. On 11/12/2019 15:22, Daniel Golle wrote: You statement "suck it" (guess what) is also an obvious and disgusting example of a masculist culture which hurts our community as a whole and I strongly believe we should not tolerate that. -1. This is a software development mailing list, not tumblr.com. '-1'? So I get right, you are saying it's ok to be insulting other people because this mailing list is about software development? If that's really what you wanted to say, I'm glad that's only a single individual opinion coming from an email address which has never actually been used on this mailing list. And btw, this is your first 'contribution', and it's not even about software development... He is just disappointed at your pointing out the "masculinist culture" in a place where he expected more maturity. Yours is mostly SJW-speak and I'm also not fond of it, I'll explain why. It is a double-edged blade. In this case your definition is technically correct, we all know what "suck it" implies. But this highly polarizing approach to life and people can (and does, especially in its dens like tumblr.com as mentioned) slippery slope into full blown hate and reverse oppression, which is equally bad. I'm not impressed by your reaction here, first thing you do is a blatant strawman logical fallacy and then proceed to attack him on his personal values as a person without even asking to clarify his position first. He just posted a single short sentence, for heaven's sake. This is EXACTLY an example of slippery slope into blind hate rage as I said above, and exactly why this kind of polarizing categorizations and statements should be avoided at all costs in a serious and sane environment. We should really not jump at each other's throats on a moment's notice like that, especially not in a software development mailing list. -Alberto ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Inquery
On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 05:37:26PM +0100, WRT Burner wrote: > On 11/12/2019 15:22, Daniel Golle wrote: > > And it's even needless to say that > > replying to a spam email in which ever way will always make it worse. > > +1. There is no constructive value in replying to spam. Let's keep > openwrt-devel > nice and clean. > > On 11/12/2019 15:22, Daniel Golle wrote: > > You statement "suck it" (guess what) is also an obvious > > and disgusting example of a masculist culture which hurts our community > > as a whole and I strongly believe we should not tolerate that. > > -1. This is a software development mailing list, not tumblr.com. '-1'? So I get right, you are saying it's ok to be insulting other people because this mailing list is about software development? If that's really what you wanted to say, I'm glad that's only a single individual opinion coming from an email address which has never actually been used on this mailing list. And btw, this is your first 'contribution', and it's not even about software development... ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Inquery
On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 3:22 PM Daniel Golle wrote: > > Hi Tomislav, > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 11:24:21AM +0100, Tom Psyborg wrote: > > suck it > > As a community, we decided to give our self a set of minimal rules[1]. > And even though it is in the last position, rule #12 "Be nice to each > other." is meant just as serious as all the other rules. > > So here, not for the first time, you are using language which has the > only purpose to hurt other people (for which reason ever, it doesn't > matter). This is therefore a very clear violation to the above > mentioned rule. You statement "suck it" (guess what) is also an obvious > and disgusting example of a masculist culture which hurts our community > as a whole and I strongly believe we should not tolerate that. > > And yes this was a spam mail. And it's even needless to say that > replying to a spam email in which ever way will always make it worse. > But that's not the point here and I will not engage in any discussion > on that matter. > > Please learn to behave or leave us alone. > > [1]: https://openwrt.org/rules +1 > > > > > > On 11/12/2019, rqgxfc wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello Sir ， > > > > > > We are a trading company named Shaanxi Hao Zi Guan Materials Co.,Ltd . > > > Now > > > we are very interested in your products , we will plan to sell your > > > products in the Chinese market . If you are interested in cooperation, > > > please send us a catalog and pricelist .w > > > Looking forward to receiving your reply . > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Catherina > > > > ___ > > openwrt-devel mailing list > > openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org > > https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel > > ___ > openwrt-devel mailing list > openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org > https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Inquery
On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 at 15:22, Daniel Golle wrote: > As a community, we decided to give our self a set of minimal rules[1]. > And even though it is in the last position, rule #12 "Be nice to each > other." is meant just as serious as all the other rules. > > So here, not for the first time, you are using language which has the > only purpose to hurt other people (for which reason ever, it doesn't > matter). This is therefore a very clear violation to the above > mentioned rule. You statement "suck it" (guess what) is also an obvious > and disgusting example of a masculist culture which hurts our community > as a whole and I strongly believe we should not tolerate that. > > And yes this was a spam mail. And it's even needless to say that > replying to a spam email in which ever way will always make it worse. > But that's not the point here and I will not engage in any discussion > on that matter. > > Please learn to behave or leave us alone. +1 ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Inquery
On 11/12/2019 15:22, Daniel Golle wrote: > And it's even needless to say that > replying to a spam email in which ever way will always make it worse. +1. There is no constructive value in replying to spam. Let's keep openwrt-devel nice and clean. On 11/12/2019 15:22, Daniel Golle wrote: > You statement "suck it" (guess what) is also an obvious > and disgusting example of a masculist culture which hurts our community > as a whole and I strongly believe we should not tolerate that. -1. This is a software development mailing list, not tumblr.com. ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Inquery
> Please learn to behave or leave us alone. +2 -- ynezz ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Inquery
On 11.12.2019 15:22, Daniel Golle wrote: As a community, we decided to give our self a set of minimal rules[1]. And even though it is in the last position, rule #12 "Be nice to each other." is meant just as serious as all the other rules. So here, not for the first time, you are using language which has the only purpose to hurt other people (for which reason ever, it doesn't matter). This is therefore a very clear violation to the above mentioned rule. You statement "suck it" (guess what) is also an obvious and disgusting example of a masculist culture which hurts our community as a whole and I strongly believe we should not tolerate that. And yes this was a spam mail. And it's even needless to say that replying to a spam email in which ever way will always make it worse. But that's not the point here and I will not engage in any discussion on that matter. Please learn to behave or leave us alone. [1]: https://openwrt.org/rules +1 -- Cheers, Piotr ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Inquery
On 11/12/2019 15:22, Daniel Golle wrote: As a community, we decided to give our self a set of minimal rules[1]. And even though it is in the last position, rule #12 "Be nice to each other." is meant just as serious as all the other rules. So here, not for the first time, you are using language which has the only purpose to hurt other people (for which reason ever, it doesn't matter). This is therefore a very clear violation to the above mentioned rule. You statement "suck it" (guess what) is also an obvious and disgusting example of a masculist culture which hurts our community as a whole and I strongly believe we should not tolerate that. And yes this was a spam mail. And it's even needless to say that replying to a spam email in which ever way will always make it worse. But that's not the point here and I will not engage in any discussion on that matter. Please learn to behave or leave us alone. [1]:https://openwrt.org/rules +1 ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Inquery
Hi Tomislav, On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 11:24:21AM +0100, Tom Psyborg wrote: > suck it As a community, we decided to give our self a set of minimal rules[1]. And even though it is in the last position, rule #12 "Be nice to each other." is meant just as serious as all the other rules. So here, not for the first time, you are using language which has the only purpose to hurt other people (for which reason ever, it doesn't matter). This is therefore a very clear violation to the above mentioned rule. You statement "suck it" (guess what) is also an obvious and disgusting example of a masculist culture which hurts our community as a whole and I strongly believe we should not tolerate that. And yes this was a spam mail. And it's even needless to say that replying to a spam email in which ever way will always make it worse. But that's not the point here and I will not engage in any discussion on that matter. Please learn to behave or leave us alone. [1]: https://openwrt.org/rules > > On 11/12/2019, rqgxfc wrote: > > > > > > Hello Sir ， > > > > We are a trading company named Shaanxi Hao Zi Guan Materials Co.,Ltd . Now > > we are very interested in your products , we will plan to sell your > > products in the Chinese market . If you are interested in cooperation, > > please send us a catalog and pricelist .w > > Looking forward to receiving your reply . > > > > Best regards, > > Catherina > > ___ > openwrt-devel mailing list > openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org > https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Inquery
suck it On 11/12/2019, rqgxfc wrote: > > > Hello Sir ， > > We are a trading company named Shaanxi Hao Zi Guan Materials Co.,Ltd . Now > we are very interested in your products , we will plan to sell your > products in the Chinese market . If you are interested in cooperation, > please send us a catalog and pricelist .w > Looking forward to receiving your reply . > > Best regards, > Catherina ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
[OpenWrt-Devel] Inquery
Hello Sir ， We are a trading company named Shaanxi Hao Zi Guan Materials Co.,Ltd . Now we are very interested in your products , we will plan to sell your products in the Chinese market . If you are interested in cooperation, please send us a catalog and pricelist .w Looking forward to receiving your reply . Best regards, Catherina___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
