Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal V2

2017-05-23 Thread John Crispin



On 23/05/17 17:29, Zoltan HERPAI wrote:

Hi John,

John Crispin wrote:
here is a V2 of the remerge proposal, I tried to fold all the 
comments people made into it, if anything is missing let me know.

[snip]

Please let us know when you'll start a final vote on this proposal, or 
if you want to wait a few days if anything bumps in for a V3. I'm OK 
with this, thanks for putting it together.


Thanks,
Zoltan H

i plan to send a V3 later today or early tomorrow. i hope that we can 
vote on V3 and get things moving


John
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Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal V2

2017-05-23 Thread Zoltan HERPAI

Hi John,

John Crispin wrote:
here is a V2 of the remerge proposal, I tried to fold all the comments 
people made into it, if anything is missing let me know.

[snip]

Please let us know when you'll start a final vote on this proposal, or 
if you want to wait a few days if anything bumps in for a V3. I'm OK 
with this, thanks for putting it together.


Thanks,
Zoltan H
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Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal V2

2017-05-22 Thread Florian Fainelli
On 05/22/2017 02:02 AM, Rafał Miłecki wrote:
> On 05/22/2017 09:40 AM, John Crispin wrote:
>> *) branding
>> - the owrt side sees no option of using the lede brand
>> - a (minor) majority voted for openwrt as a name over lede whilst most
>> people said they did not care
>> - as the last vote had a 100% ACK for a remerge using the owrt brand
>> is the only feasible option
> 
> Since the project is going to be known/accessible under OpenWrt name now, I
> want also mbm and Kaloz to share #openwrt and #openwrt-devel privileges.
> 
> There were many times op was needed but mbm/Kaloz weren't around.
> 
> I was refused/ignored multiple times when asking for that, so I wanted to
> bring it as this point to be clear. Is that OK for you guys?

Yes that's fine, while your channel operator status is worked on, if
there is something specific you can private message me on IRC and I get
be op on these two channels for a little bit to do what is necessary.

Thanks!
-- 
Florian
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Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal V2

2017-05-22 Thread tapper

Sounds good to me!

On 22/05/2017 08:40, John Crispin wrote:

Hi,

here is a V2 of the remerge proposal, I tried to fold all the comments 
people made into it, if anything is missing let me know.



 John

*) branding
- the owrt side sees no option of using the lede brand
- a (minor) majority voted for openwrt as a name over lede whilst most 
people said they did not care
- as the last vote had a 100% ACK for a remerge using the owrt brand is 
the only feasible option


*) domain
- transfer owner ship to SPI for openwrt.org and lede-project.org
- add them to the pool of urls at digital ocean
- post remerge build a setup where we have several DNS servers in 
various locations

- point git.openwrt.org at the lede git server
- point bugs.openwrt.org to the lede flyspray instance
- keep both wikis and forums as is (we should decide post remerge how to 
proceed to avoid these issues blocking the progress)
- update the lede domain entries for build/download/rsync/... servers so 
that the openwrt domain also points at them


*) SPI
- nominate a new liaison team (imre and john offer to do this, if anyone 
else is interested let us know)

- inform SPI of the new liaisons, voters and project rules
- this should be done early in the remerge process s.t. the domains can 
be handed over


*) github
- start pushing to the openwrt organisation
- cleanup the list of owners in the openwrt organisation
- obsolete all issues on the openwrt organisation and close the issue 
tracker
- go through the open openwrt and lede PRs, pickup whats useful and 
close the rest, asking people to repost (things wont be rebasable anyhow)

- close the lede PR tracker
- obsolete the lede github org after a grace period of 3-6 months

*) landing page
- add a letter of intent / notice to both current landing pages 
announcing the remerge

- update the lede landing page to represent the openwrt name
- update the landing page to have the same look & feel as the current 
openwrt landing page

- point openwrt.org at the lede landing page
- try to find some design guru that will transform the owrt theme to one 
appropriate to this century


*) trac
- trac is already readonly, keep content so that search engines can 
still find the it
- edit the trac html templates, adding a note pointing at the 
bug.openwrt.org instance


*) email accounts
- currently there are around ~20 active openwrt.org mail accounts (the 3 
owrt devs would like to keep theirs active)
- turn all the webmaster@, hostmaster@, ... accounts into aliases that 
anyone with voting rights can be subscribed to
- ask those people that are no longer active to voluntarily give up 
their accounts
- mail addresses may under no conditions be used for any personal 
business, consultancy, applying for jobs, ... purposes
- any mail sent from an openwrt.org account needs to adhere the 
trademark policy and should only be used for FOSS purposes


*) wiki / forum
- TBD
- asking in either forum/wiki will get a biased vote so keep them both 
around

- start a separate discussion regarding these post remerge

*) LF
- find out what doubts folks have about LF
- find out benefits - we would have their hosting and sponsorship ?!
- start a separate discussion regarding these post remerge

*) git trees
- rebrand the lede tree to openwrt
- work out what has happened inside the openwrt tree since the reboot 
and pick up the useful bits (zoltan has done some prior work on this 
already)


*) mailing list
- ask david to add the openwrt-adm and openwrt lists
- send out invitation mails to the new list
- setup redirect/auto-reply for the existing lists

*) trademark/sponsorship policy
- review/ack imres trademark policy (https://openwrt.org/trademark)
- review/ack jows sponsorship policy (link pending)

*) timeline
- vote / agree on the proposal within the next week
- work on the action items in the 4 weeks after that

 John
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Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal V2

2017-05-22 Thread Rafał Miłecki

On 05/22/2017 09:40 AM, John Crispin wrote:

*) branding
- the owrt side sees no option of using the lede brand
- a (minor) majority voted for openwrt as a name over lede whilst most people 
said they did not care
- as the last vote had a 100% ACK for a remerge using the owrt brand is the 
only feasible option


Since the project is going to be known/accessible under OpenWrt name now, I
want also mbm and Kaloz to share #openwrt and #openwrt-devel privileges.

There were many times op was needed but mbm/Kaloz weren't around.

I was refused/ignored multiple times when asking for that, so I wanted to
bring it as this point to be clear. Is that OK for you guys?
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[OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt and lede - remerge proposal V2

2017-05-22 Thread John Crispin

Hi,

here is a V2 of the remerge proposal, I tried to fold all the comments 
people made into it, if anything is missing let me know.



John

*) branding
- the owrt side sees no option of using the lede brand
- a (minor) majority voted for openwrt as a name over lede whilst most 
people said they did not care
- as the last vote had a 100% ACK for a remerge using the owrt brand is 
the only feasible option


*) domain
- transfer owner ship to SPI for openwrt.org and lede-project.org
- add them to the pool of urls at digital ocean
- post remerge build a setup where we have several DNS servers in 
various locations

- point git.openwrt.org at the lede git server
- point bugs.openwrt.org to the lede flyspray instance
- keep both wikis and forums as is (we should decide post remerge how to 
proceed to avoid these issues blocking the progress)
- update the lede domain entries for build/download/rsync/... servers so 
that the openwrt domain also points at them


*) SPI
- nominate a new liaison team (imre and john offer to do this, if anyone 
else is interested let us know)

- inform SPI of the new liaisons, voters and project rules
- this should be done early in the remerge process s.t. the domains can 
be handed over


*) github
- start pushing to the openwrt organisation
- cleanup the list of owners in the openwrt organisation
- obsolete all issues on the openwrt organisation and close the issue 
tracker
- go through the open openwrt and lede PRs, pickup whats useful and 
close the rest, asking people to repost (things wont be rebasable anyhow)

- close the lede PR tracker
- obsolete the lede github org after a grace period of 3-6 months

*) landing page
- add a letter of intent / notice to both current landing pages 
announcing the remerge

- update the lede landing page to represent the openwrt name
- update the landing page to have the same look & feel as the current 
openwrt landing page

- point openwrt.org at the lede landing page
- try to find some design guru that will transform the owrt theme to one 
appropriate to this century


*) trac
- trac is already readonly, keep content so that search engines can 
still find the it
- edit the trac html templates, adding a note pointing at the 
bug.openwrt.org instance


*) email accounts
- currently there are around ~20 active openwrt.org mail accounts (the 3 
owrt devs would like to keep theirs active)
- turn all the webmaster@, hostmaster@, ... accounts into aliases that 
anyone with voting rights can be subscribed to
- ask those people that are no longer active to voluntarily give up 
their accounts
- mail addresses may under no conditions be used for any personal 
business, consultancy, applying for jobs, ... purposes
- any mail sent from an openwrt.org account needs to adhere the 
trademark policy and should only be used for FOSS purposes


*) wiki / forum
- TBD
- asking in either forum/wiki will get a biased vote so keep them both 
around

- start a separate discussion regarding these post remerge

*) LF
- find out what doubts folks have about LF
- find out benefits - we would have their hosting and sponsorship ?!
- start a separate discussion regarding these post remerge

*) git trees
- rebrand the lede tree to openwrt
- work out what has happened inside the openwrt tree since the reboot 
and pick up the useful bits (zoltan has done some prior work on this 
already)


*) mailing list
- ask david to add the openwrt-adm and openwrt lists
- send out invitation mails to the new list
- setup redirect/auto-reply for the existing lists

*) trademark/sponsorship policy
- review/ack imres trademark policy (https://openwrt.org/trademark)
- review/ack jows sponsorship policy (link pending)

*) timeline
- vote / agree on the proposal within the next week
- work on the action items in the 4 weeks after that

John
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