Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt.org website down?

2009-08-24 Thread MichelinoK
i have the same problem...they've changed the ip of openwrt.org so we have 
to wait for the DNS around the world to be updated...(or you manually add 
openwrt.org to the hosts file with the new ipgrab the ip from the 
topic of the irc channel, cannot remember now...i'm waiting for the dns 
update).



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Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt.org website down?

2009-08-24 Thread bud . dhay



nslookup openwrt.org 208.67.222.222

Server:  resolver1.opendns.com
Address:  208.67.222.222

Name:openwrt.org
Address:  78.24.191.177

regards .. bud


On 23.08.2009 10:36, MichelinoK wrote:

i have the same problem...they've changed the ip of openwrt.org so we have
to wait for the DNS around the world to be updated...(or you manually add
openwrt.org to the hosts file with the new ipgrab the ip from the
topic of the irc channel, cannot remember now...i'm waiting for the dns
update).



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Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt.org website down?

2009-08-24 Thread Benjamin Cama
Hi all,

I just wanted to clarify the situation in plain english and avoid a
bunch of people spamming with random guess/solutions :

First: I am not related to the openwrt project, so these are just _my_
explanations, as a small random contributor. If some official
explanations were given, I would be gratefull.

So, apparently, some openwrt servers changed location recently. I didn't
see any announce anywhere, but I'm ok with that as long as everything
runs smoothly.

But, the TTL for these entries in the DNS was 7 days, that is, your
local DNS server may at worst lag 7 days behind the change. And the new
address didn't point to new servers, the old one were just displaced,
so as soon as they changed IP, the old entries were invalid. As said
Nils, it might have been scheduled a bit better and the TTL reduced
before the change.

So, all this is *normal behavior* for the DNS servers, there is no
problem appart from the bad scheduling of the openwrt team. Could we
have had a bit more information beforehand ? So, for those who doubted,
your ISP is not to blame.

About the different solutions, waiting is the best, but may be
unsatisfactory. Using opendns seems strange to me, as if their entries
are updated so fast, either they're very lucky and renewed on schedule
just after the change, either they are violating the general updating
policy stated in the RFCs. Using mirrors : I always prefer the official
address, but this may be a temporary solution.

Regards,
Benjamin

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[OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt.org website down?

2009-08-23 Thread bud . dhay

getting timeouts, anybody else experiencing this?

..bud
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Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt.org website down?

2009-08-23 Thread Steven Van Ingelgem
I experience problems with svn.openwrt.org. But I saw the last commit was
13h ago... So I don't really know.

I've had those issues in the past too. Though never this long (already like
2-3 days now).


2009/8/22 bud.d...@suisse.org

 getting timeouts, anybody else experiencing this?

 ..bud
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Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt.org website down?

2009-08-23 Thread Benjamin Henrion
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 5:00 AM, bud.d...@suisse.org wrote:
 getting timeouts, anybody else experiencing this?

Time for mirrors...

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Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt.org website down?

2009-08-23 Thread Imre Kaloz
On 2009.08.23. 09:55:08 Steven Van Ingelgem ste...@vaningelgem.be wrote:

 I experience problems with svn.openwrt.org. But I saw the last commit was
 13h ago... So I don't really know.

 I've had those issues in the past too. Though never this long (already like
 2-3 days now).


 2009/8/22 bud.d...@suisse.org

 getting timeouts, anybody else experiencing this?

 ..bud

New ISP - new IP. Your or your ISP's DNS servers have been caching the old one.


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Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt.org website down?

2009-08-23 Thread Imre Kaloz
On 2009.08.23. 09:55:12 Benjamin Henrion b...@udev.org wrote:

 On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 5:00 AM, bud.d...@suisse.org wrote:
 getting timeouts, anybody else experiencing this?

 Time for mirrors...


Time to read RFC1034 and 1035.
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Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt.org website down?

2009-08-23 Thread bud . dhay
would have been nice .. also maybe a little note beforehand to the list 
... anyway for now I added a

http://www.opendns.com/
server manually before the router in lan connections dns settings. 
Anybody knows the value of the dns ttl? Or how long until I can remove 
the alternative server again?


thanks for the hint .. bud


On 23.08.2009 17:53, Nils Toedtmann wrote:

Imre Kaloz wrote:
   

On 2009.08.23. 09:55:12 Benjamin Henrionb...@udev.org  wrote:

 

On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 5:00 AM,bud.d...@suisse.org  wrote:
   

getting timeouts, anybody else experiencing this?
 

Time for mirrors...
   

Time to read RFC1034 and 1035.
 

... in particular this bit:

   If a change can be anticipated, the TTL can be reduced prior to
the change to minimize inconsistency during the change, and then
increased back to its former value following the change.

SCNR, /n.


   


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Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt.org website down?

2009-08-23 Thread kloschi
On Sun, 2009-08-23 at 18:03 +0200, bud.d...@suisse.org wrote:
 would have been nice .. also maybe a little note beforehand to the list 
 ... anyway for now I added a
 http://www.opendns.com/
 server manually before the router in lan connections dns settings. 
 Anybody knows the value of the dns ttl? Or how long until I can remove 
 the alternative server again?

whois helps to fin out the authorative dns servers.
dig helps to show the dns entries, and it looks like 604800 seconds is
the ttl .. (was it rly seconds??):

dig @ARRAKIS.DUNE.HU openwrt.org

;  DiG 9.6.1-P1  @ARRAKIS.DUNE.HU openwrt.org
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 59031
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 2
;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;openwrt.org.   IN  A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
openwrt.org.604800  IN  A   78.24.191.177

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
openwrt.org.604800  IN  NS  soapstone.yuri.org.uk.
openwrt.org.604800  IN  NS  arrakis.dune.hu.
openwrt.org.604800  IN  NS  belategeuse.dune.hu.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
arrakis.dune.hu.604800  IN  A   78.24.191.176
belategeuse.dune.hu.604800  IN  A   217.20.135.200

;; Query time: 37 msec
;; SERVER: 78.24.191.176#53(78.24.191.176)
;; WHEN: Sun Aug 23 18:36:18 2009
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 167



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Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt.org website down?

2009-08-23 Thread Steven Van Ingelgem
ste...@mac-mini:~/lacie/TV$ ping svn.openwrt.org
PING svn.openwrt.org (195.56.146.238): 56 data bytes

ste...@mac-mini:~/lacie/TV$ ping openwrt.org
PING openwrt.org (195.56.146.238): 56 data bytes

ste...@mac-mini:~/lacie/TV$ dig openwrt.org

;  DiG 9.4.3-P3  openwrt.org
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 59701
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 3

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;openwrt.org.   IN  A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
openwrt.org.509808  IN  A   195.56.146.238

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
openwrt.org.73064   IN  NS  soapstone.yuri.org.uk.
openwrt.org.73064   IN  NS  belategeuse.dune.hu.
openwrt.org.73064   IN  NS  arrakis.dune.hu.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
arrakis.dune.hu.73064   IN  A   195.56.146.235
soapstone.yuri.org.uk.  29204   IN  A   78.47.151.105
belategeuse.dune.hu.73064   IN  A   217.20.135.200

;; Query time: 14 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.178.1#53(192.168.178.1)
;; WHEN: Sun Aug 23 18:42:40 2009
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 183




2009/8/23 kloschi klos...@subsignal.org

 On Sun, 2009-08-23 at 18:03 +0200, bud.d...@suisse.org wrote:
  would have been nice .. also maybe a little note beforehand to the list
  ... anyway for now I added a
  http://www.opendns.com/
  server manually before the router in lan connections dns settings.
  Anybody knows the value of the dns ttl? Or how long until I can remove
  the alternative server again?

 whois helps to fin out the authorative dns servers.
 dig helps to show the dns entries, and it looks like 604800 seconds is
 the ttl .. (was it rly seconds??):

 dig @ARRAKIS.DUNE.HU openwrt.org

 ;  DiG 9.6.1-P1  @ARRAKIS.DUNE.HU openwrt.org
 ; (1 server found)
 ;; global options: +cmd
 ;; Got answer:
 ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 59031
 ;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 2
 ;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available

 ;; QUESTION SECTION:
 ;openwrt.org.   IN  A

 ;; ANSWER SECTION:
 openwrt.org.604800  IN  A   78.24.191.177

 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
 openwrt.org.604800  IN  NS  soapstone.yuri.org.uk.
 openwrt.org.604800  IN  NS  arrakis.dune.hu.
 openwrt.org.604800  IN  NS  belategeuse.dune.hu.

 ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
 arrakis.dune.hu.604800  IN  A   78.24.191.176
 belategeuse.dune.hu.604800  IN  A   217.20.135.200

 ;; Query time: 37 msec
 ;; SERVER: 78.24.191.176#53(78.24.191.176)
 ;; WHEN: Sun Aug 23 18:36:18 2009
 ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 167



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 kloschi

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Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt.org website down?

2009-08-23 Thread bud . dhay
added opendns servers now to kamikaze 7.09 on my router, following this 
directions

https://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?id=12408

here the steps in case you can't access forum.openwrt.org

edit /etc/rc.d/S60dnsmasq

add the following to DNS_SERVERS=

DNS_SERVERS=208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220

save the file then run
/etc/rc.d/S60dnsmasq restart

check resolv.conf

r...@openwrt:/etc/rc.d# cat /etc/resolv.conf
nameserver 208.67.222.222
nameserver 208.67.220.220
nameserver 127.0.0.1

... bud

On 23.08.2009 18:43, Steven Van Ingelgem wrote:

ste...@mac-mini:~/lacie/TV$ ping svn.openwrt.org
PING svn.openwrt.org (195.56.146.238): 56 data bytes

ste...@mac-mini:~/lacie/TV$ ping openwrt.org
PING openwrt.org (195.56.146.238): 56 data bytes

ste...@mac-mini:~/lacie/TV$ dig openwrt.org

;  DiG 9.4.3-P3  openwrt.org
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 59701
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 3

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;openwrt.org.   IN  A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
openwrt.org.509808  IN  A   195.56.146.238

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
openwrt.org.73064   IN  NS  soapstone.yuri.org.uk.
openwrt.org.73064   IN  NS  belategeuse.dune.hu.
openwrt.org.73064   IN  NS  arrakis.dune.hu.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
arrakis.dune.hu.73064   IN  A   195.56.146.235
soapstone.yuri.org.uk.  29204   IN  A   78.47.151.105
belategeuse.dune.hu.73064   IN  A   217.20.135.200

;; Query time: 14 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.178.1#53(192.168.178.1)
;; WHEN: Sun Aug 23 18:42:40 2009
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 183




2009/8/23 kloschiklos...@subsignal.org



On Sun, 2009-08-23 at 18:03 +0200, bud.d...@suisse.org wrote:


would have been nice .. also maybe a little note beforehand to the list
... anyway for now I added a
http://www.opendns.com/
server manually before the router in lan connections dns settings.
Anybody knows the value of the dns ttl? Or how long until I can remove
the alternative server again?


whois helps to fin out the authorative dns servers.
dig helps to show the dns entries, and it looks like 604800 seconds is
the ttl .. (was it rly seconds??):

dig @ARRAKIS.DUNE.HU openwrt.org

;  DiG 9.6.1-P1  @ARRAKIS.DUNE.HU openwrt.org
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 59031
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 2
;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;openwrt.org.   IN  A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
openwrt.org.604800  IN  A   78.24.191.177

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
openwrt.org.604800  IN  NS  soapstone.yuri.org.uk.
openwrt.org.604800  IN  NS  arrakis.dune.hu.
openwrt.org.604800  IN  NS  belategeuse.dune.hu.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
arrakis.dune.hu.604800  IN  A   78.24.191.176
belategeuse.dune.hu.604800  IN  A   217.20.135.200

;; Query time: 37 msec
;; SERVER: 78.24.191.176#53(78.24.191.176)
;; WHEN: Sun Aug 23 18:36:18 2009
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 167



hth,
kloschi

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Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt.org website down?

2009-08-23 Thread Jac Goudsmit

C:\Users\Jacnslookup
Default Server:  ???.???.com
Address:  ???.???.???.22


set q=all
openwrt.org

Server:  ???.???.com
Address:  ???.???.???.22

Non-authoritative answer:
openwrt.org nameserver = belategeuse.dune.hu
openwrt.org nameserver = soapstone.yuri.org.uk
openwrt.org nameserver = arrakis.dune.hu

openwrt.org nameserver = belategeuse.dune.hu
openwrt.org nameserver = arrakis.dune.hu
openwrt.org nameserver = soapstone.yuri.org.uk

server belategeuse.dune.hu

Default Server:  belategeuse.dune.hu
Address:  217.20.135.200


openwrt.org

Server:  belategeuse.dune.hu
Address:  217.20.135.200

openwrt.org
   primary name server = arrakis.dune.hu
   responsible mail addr = root.dune.hu
   serial  = 2009082201
   refresh = 3600 (1 hour)
   retry   = 600 (10 mins)
   expire  = 86400 (1 day)
   default TTL = 3600 (1 hour)
openwrt.org internet address = 78.24.191.177
openwrt.org MX preference = 10, mail exchanger = mail.openwrt.org
openwrt.org nameserver = belategeuse.dune.hu
openwrt.org nameserver = arrakis.dune.hu
openwrt.org nameserver = soapstone.yuri.org.uk
mail.openwrt.orginternet address = 78.24.191.176
arrakis.dune.hu internet address = 78.24.191.176
soapstone.yuri.org.uk   internet address = 78.47.151.105
belategeuse.dune.hu internet address = 217.20.135.200

exit


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Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt.org website down?

2009-08-23 Thread Nils Toedtmann
Well there is your problem:

Steven Van Ingelgem wrote:
 ste...@mac-mini:~/lacie/TV$ dig openwrt.org
[...]
 ;; ANSWER SECTION:
 openwrt.org. 509808  IN  A   195.56.146.238
[...] 
 ;; SERVER: 192.168.178.1#53(192.168.178.1)

So according to your DNS resolver 192.168.178.1 (which might well lie to
you), the TTL for the A record of openwrt.org had been 509808 seconds
(~6 days). Hence your DNS resolver still uses the old, depricated A
record 195.56.146.238 from its cache - but it should be 78.24.191.177 now.


Options you have to fix this:

* Flash your DNS resolver by rebooting your router 192.168.178.1 on
which it is running on. Might not help if your router uses the DNS
resolver of your provider as forwarder and if that one has the same issue.

* Ask you provider to clear the DNS caches of their resolvers. Not very
likely :-)

* Use a resolver which does not have this problem, e.g. 4.2.2.2-4, or
tell your router to use them as forwarders.

* run a resolver yourself (apt-get install bind9)

* put the correct IP addresses into your /etc/hosts

/nils.


PS: has the TTL really been 509808, or does Steven use a lazy resolver?



 2009/8/23 kloschi klos...@subsignal.org mailto:klos...@subsignal.org
 
 On Sun, 2009-08-23 at 18:03 +0200, bud.d...@suisse.org
 mailto:bud.d...@suisse.org wrote:
  would have been nice .. also maybe a little note beforehand to the
 list
  ... anyway for now I added a
  http://www.opendns.com/
  server manually before the router in lan connections dns settings.
  Anybody knows the value of the dns ttl? Or how long until I can remove
  the alternative server again?
 
 whois helps to fin out the authorative dns servers.
 dig helps to show the dns entries, and it looks like 604800 seconds is
 the ttl .. (was it rly seconds??):
 
 dig @ARRAKIS.DUNE.HU http://ARRAKIS.DUNE.HU openwrt.org
 http://openwrt.org
 
 ;  DiG 9.6.1-P1  @ARRAKIS.DUNE.HU http://ARRAKIS.DUNE.HU
 openwrt.org http://openwrt.org
 ; (1 server found)
 ;; global options: +cmd
 ;; Got answer:
 ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 59031
 ;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 2
 ;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available
 
 ;; QUESTION SECTION:
 ;openwrt.org http://openwrt.org.   IN  A
 
 ;; ANSWER SECTION:
 openwrt.org http://openwrt.org.604800  IN  A  
 78.24.191.177
 
 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
 openwrt.org http://openwrt.org.604800  IN  NS
  soapstone.yuri.org.uk http://soapstone.yuri.org.uk.
 openwrt.org http://openwrt.org.604800  IN  NS
  arrakis.dune.hu http://arrakis.dune.hu.
 openwrt.org http://openwrt.org.604800  IN  NS
  belategeuse.dune.hu http://belategeuse.dune.hu.
 
 ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
 arrakis.dune.hu http://arrakis.dune.hu.604800  IN  A  
 78.24.191.176
 belategeuse.dune.hu http://belategeuse.dune.hu.604800  IN
  A   217.20.135.200
 
 ;; Query time: 37 msec
 ;; SERVER: 78.24.191.176#53(78.24.191.176)
 ;; WHEN: Sun Aug 23 18:36:18 2009
 ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 167
 
 
 
 hth,
 kloschi
 
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Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] openwrt.org website down?

2009-08-23 Thread Steven Van Ingelgem
ste...@mac-mini:~/lacie/TV$ dig @193.109.184.72 openwrt.org
ste...@mac-mini:~/lacie/TV$ dig @193.109.184.75 openwrt.org

 Both results in the same... So cache @ ISP is not good ;). My router just
forwards DNS requests I think (Fritzbox).

2009/8/23 Steven Van Ingelgem ste...@vaningelgem.be

 Nils: or another option: wait a few more days ;-).


 Grtz,
 Steven

 2009/8/23 Nils Toedtmann nils.toedtm...@the-hub.net

 Well there is your problem:

 Steven Van Ingelgem wrote:
  ste...@mac-mini:~/lacie/TV$ dig openwrt.org
 [...]
  ;; ANSWER SECTION:
  openwrt.org. 509808  IN  A   195.56.146.238
 [...] 
  ;; SERVER: 192.168.178.1#53(192.168.178.1)

 So according to your DNS resolver 192.168.178.1 (which might well lie to
 you), the TTL for the A record of openwrt.org had been 509808 seconds
 (~6 days). Hence your DNS resolver still uses the old, depricated A
 record 195.56.146.238 from its cache - but it should be 78.24.191.177 now.


 Options you have to fix this:

 * Flash your DNS resolver by rebooting your router 192.168.178.1 on
 which it is running on. Might not help if your router uses the DNS
 resolver of your provider as forwarder and if that one has the same issue.

 * Ask you provider to clear the DNS caches of their resolvers. Not very
 likely :-)

 * Use a resolver which does not have this problem, e.g. 4.2.2.2-4, or
 tell your router to use them as forwarders.

 * run a resolver yourself (apt-get install bind9)

 * put the correct IP addresses into your /etc/hosts

 /nils.


 PS: has the TTL really been 509808, or does Steven use a lazy resolver?



  2009/8/23 kloschi klos...@subsignal.org mailto:klos...@subsignal.org
 
 
  On Sun, 2009-08-23 at 18:03 +0200, bud.d...@suisse.org
  mailto:bud.d...@suisse.org wrote:
   would have been nice .. also maybe a little note beforehand to the
  list
   ... anyway for now I added a
   http://www.opendns.com/
   server manually before the router in lan connections dns settings.
   Anybody knows the value of the dns ttl? Or how long until I can
 remove
   the alternative server again?
 
  whois helps to fin out the authorative dns servers.
  dig helps to show the dns entries, and it looks like 604800 seconds
 is
  the ttl .. (was it rly seconds??):
 
  dig @ARRAKIS.DUNE.HU http://ARRAKIS.DUNE.HU openwrt.org
  http://openwrt.org
 
  ;  DiG 9.6.1-P1  @ARRAKIS.DUNE.HU http://ARRAKIS.DUNE.HU
  openwrt.org http://openwrt.org
  ; (1 server found)
  ;; global options: +cmd
  ;; Got answer:
  ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 59031
  ;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 2
  ;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available
 
  ;; QUESTION SECTION:
  ;openwrt.org http://openwrt.org.   IN  A
 
  ;; ANSWER SECTION:
  openwrt.org http://openwrt.org.604800  IN  A
  78.24.191.177
 
  ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
  openwrt.org http://openwrt.org.604800  IN  NS
   soapstone.yuri.org.uk http://soapstone.yuri.org.uk.
  openwrt.org http://openwrt.org.604800  IN  NS
   arrakis.dune.hu http://arrakis.dune.hu.
  openwrt.org http://openwrt.org.604800  IN  NS
   belategeuse.dune.hu http://belategeuse.dune.hu.
 
  ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
  arrakis.dune.hu http://arrakis.dune.hu.604800  IN  A
  78.24.191.176
  belategeuse.dune.hu http://belategeuse.dune.hu.604800  IN
   A   217.20.135.200
 
  ;; Query time: 37 msec
  ;; SERVER: 78.24.191.176#53(78.24.191.176)
  ;; WHEN: Sun Aug 23 18:36:18 2009
  ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 167
 
 
 
  hth,
  kloschi
 
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