Re: missing email header
On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 07:46:47AM -0800, Brian Norris wrote: > On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 1:57 AM David Woodhouse wrote: >> On Wed, 2021-02-17 at 21:52 -0800, Brian Norris wrote: >>> They've suggested the mailman admin apply a patch ;) >> >> I believe I did so yesterday. > > [..] Awesome, thanks. Thank you, David, for this. (And for maintaining infradead generally!) Best, Sam -- A: When it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: When is top-posting a bad thing? () ASCII ribbon campaign. Please avoid HTML emails & proprietary /\ file formats. (Why? See e.g. https://v.gd/jrmGbS ). Thank you. ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: missing email header
On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 1:57 AM David Woodhouse wrote: > On Wed, 2021-02-17 at 21:52 -0800, Brian Norris wrote: > > It turns out a bug report was filed, and fixed: > > > > https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-us...@python.org/thread/ZVM6I4UTDKHY4EKNLIBIWE4JNC2PYLIS/ > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/1915655 > > > > They've suggested the mailman admin apply a patch ;) > > I believe I did so yesterday. Ah! I suspected that might be the case after I sent my previous email, as I then searched my mailbox for those DMARC-wrapping headers and finally found a single message from Etan that finally had a correct Subject line. And there have been more since. So that part seems to work now. Awesome, thanks. Brian ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: missing email header
On Wed, 2021-02-17 at 21:52 -0800, Brian Norris wrote: > (CC a few) > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 6:59 AM David Woodhouse wrote: > > On Mon, 2020-08-10 at 10:13 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > > Agreed. HOWEVER, anything that is being relayed due to too-strict SPF > > > is being relayed with an *EMPTY* subject, and *THAT* is extremely > > > annoying. > > > > Hm, didn't that get fixed? > > It would seem not. Mailing list participants have been complaining > very recently: > > http://lists.openwrt.org/pipermail/openwrt-devel/2021-February/033848.html > > It turns out a bug report was filed, and fixed: > > https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-us...@python.org/thread/ZVM6I4UTDKHY4EKNLIBIWE4JNC2PYLIS/ > https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/1915655 > > They've suggested the mailman admin apply a patch ;) I believe I did so yesterday. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: missing email header
(CC a few) On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 6:59 AM David Woodhouse wrote: > On Mon, 2020-08-10 at 10:13 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > Agreed. HOWEVER, anything that is being relayed due to too-strict SPF > > is being relayed with an *EMPTY* subject, and *THAT* is extremely annoying. > > Hm, didn't that get fixed? It would seem not. Mailing list participants have been complaining very recently: http://lists.openwrt.org/pipermail/openwrt-devel/2021-February/033848.html It turns out a bug report was filed, and fixed: https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-us...@python.org/thread/ZVM6I4UTDKHY4EKNLIBIWE4JNC2PYLIS/ https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/1915655 They've suggested the mailman admin apply a patch ;) Brian ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: missing email header
On Mon, 2020-08-10 at 10:13 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On 09/08/2020 17:17, Fabian Bläse wrote: > > please keep the current configuration. The Subject header ist typcially > > configured to be included in dkim signatures. > > Therefore mangling the subject breaks the signature, which might lead to > > rejected mails or higher spam scores. > > Agreed. HOWEVER, anything that is being relayed due to too-strict SPF > is being relayed with an *EMPTY* subject, and *THAT* is extremely annoying. Hm, didn't that get fixed? The list should just be behaving normally now, and if some recipient wants to reject because of SPF or other silly incompatible "throw the baby out with the bathwater" schemes, that's up to them. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: missing email header
On 09/08/2020 17:17, Fabian Bläse wrote: please keep the current configuration. The Subject header ist typcially configured to be included in dkim signatures. Therefore mangling the subject breaks the signature, which might lead to rejected mails or higher spam scores. Agreed. HOWEVER, anything that is being relayed due to too-strict SPF is being relayed with an *EMPTY* subject, and *THAT* is extremely annoying. -- Henrique de Moraes Holschuh Analista de Projetos Centro de Estudos e Pesquisas em Tecnologias de Redes e Operações (Ceptro.br) +55 11 5509-3537 R.:4023 INOC 22548*625 www.nic.br ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: missing email header
Hi, please keep the current configuration. The Subject header ist typcially configured to be included in dkim signatures. Therefore mangling the subject breaks the signature, which might lead to rejected mails or higher spam scores. Best regards, Fabian On 09.08.20 02:36, Brian Norris wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 2:21 AM Moritz Warning wrote: >> somehow the titles of the emails from openwrt-devel@ do not contain a title >> prefix anymore. >> They appear to address me personally at first glance, which is a bit >> unsettling. > > FWIW, I see very few other mailing lists mangle the Subject field the > way openwrt-devel used to do it. I have no say in these things, but I > personally prefer it this way. > >> Is this a temporary thing? > > I can't speak for any of that, but it does seem like the change > started around June 21, which happens to be the same weekend when the > machine that hosts the mailing list seems to have gone down with disk > failure: > http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-mtd/2020-June/081081.html > > I expect the mailing list configuration must have been reset too. > > So in other words, the change may simply be an accident? > > Regards, > Brian > > ___ > openwrt-devel mailing list > openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org > https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel > signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
Re: missing email header
Hi, On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 2:21 AM Moritz Warning wrote: > somehow the titles of the emails from openwrt-devel@ do not contain a title > prefix anymore. > They appear to address me personally at first glance, which is a bit > unsettling. FWIW, I see very few other mailing lists mangle the Subject field the way openwrt-devel used to do it. I have no say in these things, but I personally prefer it this way. > Is this a temporary thing? I can't speak for any of that, but it does seem like the change started around June 21, which happens to be the same weekend when the machine that hosts the mailing list seems to have gone down with disk failure: http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-mtd/2020-June/081081.html I expect the mailing list configuration must have been reset too. So in other words, the change may simply be an accident? Regards, Brian ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel
missing email header
Hi, somehow the titles of the emails from openwrt-devel@ do not contain a title prefix anymore. They appear to address me personally at first glance, which is a bit unsettling. Is this a temporary thing? thanks, Moritz ___ openwrt-devel mailing list openwrt-devel@lists.openwrt.org https://lists.openwrt.org/mailman/listinfo/openwrt-devel