Re: Automated threat messages force limitation of Exit Policy (Softlayer)

[Wendy Seltzer]

On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Moritz Bartl  wrote:

> I have started to collect statistics and some of my answers on a wiki page:
> http://www.wiredwings.com/wiki/Torservers.net_Main_Page#Statistics
> So far, there's not been a single real conversation with anyone about the
> legal status.
>

Documenting your experience is helpful, thanks!  I hope you can also
get to the root of the problem.

I can't give you legal advice, but I've operated Chilling Effects for
7+ years without encountering any serious problems publishing
cease-and-desist letters people have received.  I haven't heard that
the postings have caused anyone else trouble either.  We've said that
posting the letters is necessary to analysis of their legal claims,
and therefore fair use, see


Best,
--Wendy

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Re: [OT]FW: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

[Moritz Bartl]

On 30.06.2010 19:03, Michael Holstein wrote:
> This is a "feature" of these sort of sites .. you (stupidly) provide
> your email password, they suck in all the addresses of your contacts and
> attempt to befriend them.

Some of them even create connected nodes for non-existing users in
advance, eg. Facebook:
http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2009-06-12-n15.html

So, there might now be a user profile for or-talk on LinkedIn.

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Re: traffic gone?

[Udo van den Heuvel]

On 2010-06-30 18:31, Udo van den Heuvel wrote:
> On 2010-06-30 11:15, Marco Predicatori wrote:
>> Can you see your node on the public lists?
> 
> Nope.

Still the same logging:

Jun 30 18:45:04.097 [notice] New control connection opened.
Jun 30 18:50:03.649 [notice] New control connection opened.
Jun 30 18:55:03.954 [notice] New control connection opened.
Jun 30 19:00:03.883 [notice] New control connection opened.
Jun 30 19:05:03.237 [notice] New control connection opened.
Jun 30 19:10:03.503 [notice] New control connection opened.
Jun 30 19:15:03.679 [notice] New control connection opened.
Jun 30 19:20:03.557 [notice] New control connection opened.
Jun 30 19:25:03.761 [notice] New control connection opened.
Jun 30 19:30:03.747 [notice] New control connection opened.
Jun 30 19:35:03.893 [notice] New control connection opened.
Jun 30 19:40:03.806 [notice] New control connection opened.
Jun 30 19:45:03.030 [notice] New control connection opened.
Jun 30 19:50:04.047 [notice] New control connection opened.

(non-debug...)

So what can I do to help find the reason/cause/error/bug?

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Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

[Nils Vogels]

Always wanted to say this:

I don't know jack.

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Re: [OT]FW: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

[Michael Holstein]

> And just how can you add a mailing list to your professional network???
>   

This is a "feature" of these sort of sites .. you (stupidly) provide
your email password, they suck in all the addresses of your contacts and
attempt to befriend them.

One person's "marketing" and/or "networking" is everyone else's spam.

Cheers,

Michael Holstein
Cleveland State University
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Re: traffic gone?

[Udo van den Heuvel]

On 2010-06-30 11:15, Marco Predicatori wrote:
> Can you see your node on the public lists?

Nope.

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[OT]FW: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

[downie -]

And just how can you add a mailing list to your professional network???
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:25:41 -0700
From: jackw...@gmail.com
To: or-talk@freehaven.net
Subject: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn



  

  

  
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  I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn.



- jack




  

  
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Owner at Safari LTD 


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Re: Automated threat messages force limitation of Exit Policy (Softlayer)

[Moritz Bartl]

Hi Mike,


Ok, I've updated
https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tips-running-exit-node-minimal-harassment
with this information. Let me know if there is anything else you think
might be helpful, too.


Thanks. Will do.


A blog would be great. Another option besides publishing the actual
complaints would be to draft template response letters for various
cases and publish those. I'm sure other potential exit operators would
greatly benefit from such a collection, and it would be a great thing
to link to in that post.


I have started to collect statistics and some of my answers on a wiki page:
http://www.wiredwings.com/wiki/Torservers.net_Main_Page#Statistics
So far, there's not been a single real conversation with anyone about 
the legal status.


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Invitation to connect on LinkedIn

[jack wssp]

LinkedIn


   
I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn.

- jack

jack wssp
Owner at Safari LTD 
Russian Federation

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Re: Automated threat messages force limitation of Exit Policy (Softlayer)

[Mike Perry]

Thus spake Moritz Bartl (t...@wiredwings.com):

> >Please get back to us in a week or so with info on your abuse
> >complaint rate with the new policy. I'll update
> >https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tips-running-exit-node-minimal-harassment
> >with the policy if it does in fact drastically reduce your abuse
> >complaint raint.
> 
> It does. There are still some old complaints by MediaSentry and BayTSP 
> being forwarded, but the timestamp clearly show dates before I changed 
> exit policy.

Ok, I've updated
https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tips-running-exit-node-minimal-harassment
with this information. Let me know if there is anything else you think
might be helpful, too.

> I will soon set up a (b)log about all incidents. I'll also talk to a 
> lawyer (and friend of mine) if I am allowed to publish all complaints.

A blog would be great. Another option besides publishing the actual
complaints would be to draft template response letters for various
cases and publish those. I'm sure other potential exit operators would
greatly benefit from such a collection, and it would be a great thing
to link to in that post.


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Mad Computer Scientist
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Re: traffic gone?

[Marco Predicatori]

Udo van den Heuvel, on 06/29/2010 06:53 PM, wrote:


So we have some communication but no real traffic. Traffic went
down on saturday, before the machine went down. Why? I'll keep an
eye on the situation.


Can you see your node on the public lists?

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