Re: Full bandwidth is not used.

2010-10-14 Thread Timo Schoeler
thus Paul Menzel spake:
 Dear Thomas,
 
 
 Am Mittwoch, den 13.10.2010, 10:31 -0400 schrieb Thomas S. Benjamin:
 
 Is your relay running on a virtual machine (V-colo)?
 
 Yes, the relay is running on a virtual machine.
 
 If so, check your user beancounters, they may show you which resources
 are being exhausted.
 
 Xen is used. So I cannot check those entries, but according to the FAQ,
 this should not be a problem [1]. I also checked with `top` on Dom0 and
 DomU and the ressources are barley used.

Xen doesn't use beancounters, they're used in OpenVZ, e.g.

You should be able to find out lack of resources of your Dom0 and DomU
by using the 'usualy' utilities and `xentop', e.g.

 Also, do you find any messages in your log?
 
 The log just contains the normal `[NOTICE]` messages.

Maybe the problem resides outside of what he can see, maybe there's
traffic shaping/accounting with limiting after a certain useage taking
place?

 Thanks,
 
 Paul

Best,

Timo

 [1] http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/Mar-2010/msg00155.html
 [2] 
 https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/TheOnionRouter/TorFAQ#CanIrunaTorrelayfrommyvirtualserveraccount

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Re: Full bandwidth is not used.

2010-10-14 Thread Paul Menzel
Am Donnerstag, den 14.10.2010, 08:32 +0200 schrieb Timo Schoeler:
 thus Paul Menzel spake:

  Am Mittwoch, den 13.10.2010, 10:31 -0400 schrieb Thomas S. Benjamin:
  
  Is your relay running on a virtual machine (V-colo)?
  
  Yes, the relay is running on a virtual machine.
  
  If so, check your user beancounters, they may show you which resources
  are being exhausted.
  
  Xen is used. So I cannot check those entries, but according to the FAQ,
  this should not be a problem [1]. I also checked with `top` on Dom0 and
  DomU and the ressources are barley used.
 
 Xen doesn't use beancounters, they're used in OpenVZ, e.g.

 You should be able to find out lack of resources of your Dom0 and DomU
 by using the 'usualy' utilities and `xentop', e.g.

I did not know about `xentop`. Thank you! But it also show that not all
resources are used.

  Also, do you find any messages in your log?
  
  The log just contains the normal `[NOTICE]` messages.
 
 Maybe the problem resides outside of what he can see, maybe there's
 traffic shaping/accounting with limiting after a certain useage taking
 place?

There is, but that limit has not been reached yet.

Does anyone knowledgeable know, how I could trick the Tor rebalancing
algorithms?


Thanks,

Paul


  [1] http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/Mar-2010/msg00155.html
  [2] 
  https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/TheOnionRouter/TorFAQ#CanIrunaTorrelayfrommyvirtualserveraccount


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Re: Excessive scrubs

2010-10-14 Thread Jon
Yes, I did the save the file. This is a given, sorry.

I had added the ' SafeLogging 0 ' to the file as per Tor-ops
message/reply. Twenty four hours later when I saw that it had not
removed the ' scrubbed ' and replaced it with the node/address, I
checked the file again and it was not in the file where I put it.

I just checked it now, It is still in the file, but the logs still
show the ' scubbed' and not the address as supposedly the '
SafeLogging 0 ' was to replace. Time wise it appears to be at a
minimum of once an hour. Which makes me believe it is the same address
that is being scrubbed.

OS is WIndows

Jon


 What do you mean by 'removed itself'? Was the file never saved, or was
 there a point at which something else reverted it, or was it something
 else entirely?

 Also, which operating system are you using?
-
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 6:59 PM, katmagic the.magical@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:02:20 -0500
 Jon torance...@gmail.com wrote:

 I saw a message from Tor-op in reference to a similar problem and his
 solution was:

 Add the below line to your torrc and the scrubbed will be replaced by
 the domain in question.

 SafeLogging 0

 of which I tried, but it would not stay in the torrc file. It seems to
 remove it self at some point.

 As far as I can tell it never worked, but unknown how long after I
 placed it before it got removed.

 Jon

 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Jon torance...@gmail.com wrote:
  I have noticed over the past 2 weeks, I have been getting an unusual
  amount of scrubs. It doesn't tell me which addresses are being
  scrubbed, so I don't know if they are the same or different ones. It
  does not affect the operation of Tor. Just fills up the logs.
 
  Is there a way to have the '[scrubbed]' removed and the address put
  in its place?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Jon
 
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NoScript in version 1.3.10

2010-10-14 Thread zzzjethro666

 Hello all.
I've used Tor since 2005. Started with Mac and virtually no problems as long as 
I use it out of the box. Of course, I have since learned only a little bit 
more, like configuring Firefox, disabling plug-ins and keeping out extensions. 
I did try NoScript for a while and didn't like it.

Moved to Windows and use that mostly as the internet where I live is terrible. 
I go to internet cafes, all the computers are Windows, and the country in which 
I live blocks more sites than any other country. Now I've been told using a 
proxy here is illegal but I do anyway.

Well, I recently downloaded and extracted the USB Vidalia/Tor bundle version 
1.3.10. It came with NoScript. Is this correct? Well, Vidalia keeps crashing, 
usually won't open and when it does I get a Google captcha I cannot get past 
and have to start all over.
When I finally get past it, Tor/Vidalia crashes so it's hard to see what is in 
the logs. I tried at first just to look at the Network View 'cuz it was taking 
so long to open Firefox once Tor was open, and that wouldn't work either and 
finally crashed Vidalia/Tor again.

The options for NoScript are not really clear to me (I keep going over them 
though), and the icons don't seem to look the same as what is next to the 
Torbutton toggle and what it shows in the options window when clicked on. So, 
how do I disable or otherwise get rid of this NoScript, no want?

Why, by the way, is this part of Tor now, rather than an option one can opt out 
of? I mean, is this supposed to be the new version and has anyone else had this 
sort of problem?

I stopped using NoScript because I had found information that it could change 
settings in Privoxy I think, without a client knowing this, so I thought it 
prudent to be safe, rather than tricked up with bells and whistles like new and 
neat looking icons in my browser.

Wish I knew someone in this country who really is a tech and knows Tor to learn 
from.

Thanks for any help, words of advice or just some vice. That would be nice:)

 




Tor Bundle vs. Vidalia Bundle

2010-10-14 Thread zzzjethro666

 hi.
What is the difference between a Vidalia Bundle and a Tor Bundle, other than 
what I perceive as the obvious?
One without the other? I thought they had to work together.

Oh, this learning curve!!! Infinity is just a mirror image of eternity. There's 
no place to go in a mirror.

 




Re: Tor network connections constantly building / failing

2010-10-14 Thread Joe Btfsplk

 Thanks Mike,
Question:  I'm new at this mailing list.  Instructions were to post 
comments / quest. to:  or-t...@seul.org.  But replies to my quest. come 
from or-t...@freehaven.net.
Which address should I send ORIGINAL posts to  which for REPLIES to 
others' replies?


Q2:  For * current * topics, is there way or site to view discussions - 
before they show on the archives site?  Not sure if all discussions wind 
up on archives site  how long takes.


Re: Your questions:  Have home ADSL conn (non static IP). Direct / dry 
loop DSL w/ ATT - U.S. - TX.  Unless they JUST changed how they treat 
Tor connections, probably not the ISP (tho not out of question).


Just d/l  installed Vidalia 0.2.2.17a.  Have VERY limited testing w/ it 
so far, but the constant, RAPID building / failing of new connections 
seems to have stopped - for the moment.  Will do further testing.  I 
haven't tried other connections / open wifi.


Could just be temporary Tor network conditions, but before AND after 
installing Vidalia 0.2.2.17a, many pages now loading quite slowly vs 
same pgs in past months (comparing loading same pages on many diff days 
of wk  time of day).  Only diff on computer is upgrading to Firefox 
3.6.10.  My non Tor DSL speeds are still good.


On 10/13/2010 4:55 PM, Mike Perry wrote:

Thus spake Joe Btfsplk (joebtfs...@gmx.com):


  What I'm seeing is completely ABnormal from what I've seen for 1 - 2
yrs, over several Tor / Vidalia versions.  I often looked at network
maps - was never like this.

1)  What I described about connections constantly (RAPID fire - dozens,
one after another) building, then immediately after 90% of connections
1st pop up - showing building - they immediately fail.  Problem is, so
many fail so quickly (in seconds), fair amount of time, there aren't 3
good (open, stable) connections.  Therefore, d/l seems to drop to zero
during that time.

2) ** Currently, this behavior does NOT level off.  It continues as
long a Tor / Polipo are running (even a day or more).  Regardless, in
past if I ran Tor for 1 hr, I NEVER saw anything close to this.  I don't
leave Tor running (for normal browsing) for days at a time.  Never have.

3) Now, my speeds never pick up (for any length of time).

Your ISP may be blocking connections to the Tor network. What type of
internet connection is this? Work/school/library/home? What country
are you in? Have you tried other networks/open wifi to see if you get
the same result?



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Re: Excessive scrubs

2010-10-14 Thread Justin Aplin

On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:04 AM, Jon wrote:


Yes, I did the save the file. This is a given, sorry.


This may also be a given, but did you restart Tor after doing this?  
AFAIK (and I may be wrong), Tor does not read changes made to the  
torrc after initialization.



I had added the ' SafeLogging 0 ' to the file as per Tor-ops
message/reply. Twenty four hours later when I saw that it had not
removed the ' scrubbed ' and replaced it with the node/address, I
checked the file again and it was not in the file where I put it.


Was Vidalia running when you edited the torrc? Vidalia (on Windows, at  
least) has a bad habit of overwriting changes to the torrc that it  
isn't aware of. Personally I think there should be a Confirm before  
modifying torrc checkbox in Vidalia.




I just checked it now, It is still in the file, but the logs still
show the ' scubbed' and not the address as supposedly the '
SafeLogging 0 ' was to replace. Time wise it appears to be at a
minimum of once an hour. Which makes me believe it is the same address
that is being scrubbed.


Try shutting down both Tor and Vidalia, making your edits, restarting  
both, and rechecking your torrc/logs. If you've done all this, please  
let us know.


~Justin Aplin




OS is WIndows

Jon


What do you mean by 'removed itself'? Was the file never saved, or  
was
there a point at which something else reverted it, or was it  
something

else entirely?

Also, which operating system are you using?

-
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 6:59 PM, katmagic  
the.magical@gmail.com wrote:

On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:02:20 -0500
Jon torance...@gmail.com wrote:

I saw a message from Tor-op in reference to a similar problem and  
his

solution was:

Add the below line to your torrc and the scrubbed will be replaced  
by

the domain in question.

SafeLogging 0

of which I tried, but it would not stay in the torrc file. It  
seems to

remove it self at some point.

As far as I can tell it never worked, but unknown how long after I
placed it before it got removed.

Jon

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Jon torance...@gmail.com wrote:
I have noticed over the past 2 weeks, I have been getting an  
unusual

amount of scrubs. It doesn't tell me which addresses are being
scrubbed, so I don't know if they are the same or different ones.  
It

does not affect the operation of Tor. Just fills up the logs.

Is there a way to have the '[scrubbed]' removed and the address put
in its place?

Thanks,

Jon


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was
there a point at which something else reverted it, or was it  
something

else entirely?

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Re: checking new email on adium

2010-10-14 Thread Simon Ruderich
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 01:46:08AM +, M wrote:
 When Adium checks for new emails when an acct is routed thru tor.. will the
 eail checking also be routed thru it, or will it use the global settings?

That depends on Adium. I don't have any experience with it, so I
guess your best bet is to test it yourself (wireshark helps).

Regards,
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Re: Tor Bundle vs. Vidalia Bundle

2010-10-14 Thread Justin Aplin

On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:14 AM, zzzjethro...@email2me.net wrote:


hi.
What is the difference between a Vidalia Bundle and a Tor Bundle,  
other than what I perceive as the obvious?

One without the other? I thought they had to work together.


What they have to do depends on what you're trying to do. The Tor  
program by itself does the legwork of building circuits and passing  
data to/from the network. It has no GUI and acts based on settings in  
the torrc text file. Tor is available on its own in the Expert  
Packages section of the download page, as the only people using Tor  
on its own are likely bridge, relay, and exit operators who know what  
they're doing. It's not a bundle per se.


Vidalia is GUI program that interacts with Tor and makes its settings  
easier to handle, along with other nifty features such as viewing the  
network, logs, etc. The Vidalia Bundle on the download page is  
designed to be installed on a computer you'll be using Tor on  
regularly. That is, it isn't portable, can't easily be carried with  
you on a USB key or CD, and doesn't come with an internet browser. The  
bundle includes Polipo, which makes funneling HTTP and SOCKS proxies  
into Tor easier and safer.


The Tor Browser Bundle (the bundle I assume you're talking about in  
your post) is the same set of programs, together with a locked-down  
version of Firefox, that it designed to be completely portable. You  
don't have to install it, so it's easy to carry with you on a USB key  
or CD. Tor, Vidalia, Polipo, and the customized Firefox are all  
seamlessly started with a single button in this package.


All of this information is available on the download pages and in the  
documentation, I'd recommend reading through them.


~Justin Aplin

Re: Tor network connections constantly building / failing

2010-10-14 Thread Justin Aplin

On Oct 14, 2010, at 10:22 AM, Joe Btfsplk wrote:


Thanks Mike,
Question:  I'm new at this mailing list.  Instructions were to post  
comments / quest. to:  or-t...@seul.org.  But replies to my quest.  
come from or-t...@freehaven.net.
Which address should I send ORIGINAL posts to  which for REPLIES to  
others' replies?


Welcome! Both original posts and replies can be sent to either  
address, they'll both go out to the list. When sending mail to either  
address, or-talk@freehaven.net gets added to the Reply-To header, so  
I suppose for ease of separation you could consider or-t...@seul.org  
to be your OP address and or-talk@freehaven.net to be your Reply  
address. This isn't necessary, however, as plenty of OPs come in  
through or-t...@freehaven.net.


Q2:  For * current * topics, is there way or site to view  
discussions - before they show on the archives site?  Not sure if  
all discussions wind up on archives site  how long takes.


AFAIK, the seul.org archives are updated pretty much immediately.  
There have been cases where the archive thread will show up before a  
post will show up in my inbox.


Re: Your questions:  Have home ADSL conn (non static IP). Direct /  
dry loop DSL w/ ATT - U.S. - TX.  Unless they JUST changed how they  
treat Tor connections, probably not the ISP (tho not out of question).


Just d/l  installed Vidalia 0.2.2.17a.  Have VERY limited testing  
w/ it so far, but the constant, RAPID building / failing of new  
connections seems to have stopped - for the moment.  Will do further  
testing.  I haven't tried other connections / open wifi.


Let us know what you see.

Could just be temporary Tor network conditions, but before AND after  
installing Vidalia 0.2.2.17a, many pages now loading quite slowly vs  
same pgs in past months (comparing loading same pages on many diff  
days of wk  time of day).  Only diff on computer is upgrading to  
Firefox 3.6.10.  My non Tor DSL speeds are still good.


Tor speeds for me fluctuate wildly depending on the time of day, phase  
of the moon, will of the gods, etc. Let us know if this is constant  
after the further testing you mentioned above.


~Justin Aplin



On 10/13/2010 4:55 PM, Mike Perry wrote:

Thus spake Joe Btfsplk (joebtfs...@gmx.com):

 What I'm seeing is completely ABnormal from what I've seen for 1  
- 2

yrs, over several Tor / Vidalia versions.  I often looked at network
maps - was never like this.

1)  What I described about connections constantly (RAPID fire -  
dozens,
one after another) building, then immediately after 90% of  
connections
1st pop up - showing building - they immediately fail.  Problem  
is, so
many fail so quickly (in seconds), fair amount of time, there  
aren't 3
good (open, stable) connections.  Therefore, d/l seems to drop to  
zero

during that time.

2) ** Currently, this behavior does NOT level off.  It continues  
as
long a Tor / Polipo are running (even a day or more).  Regardless,  
in
past if I ran Tor for 1 hr, I NEVER saw anything close to this.  I  
don't
leave Tor running (for normal browsing) for days at a time.  Never  
have.


3) Now, my speeds never pick up (for any length of time).

Your ISP may be blocking connections to the Tor network. What type of
internet connection is this? Work/school/library/home? What country
are you in? Have you tried other networks/open wifi to see if you get
the same result?



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Re: Excessive scrubs

2010-10-14 Thread Jon
Ok, I just checked the torrc file and my last entry was still there. I
updated the OS and rebooted and rechecked the file and nothing has
been removed. Will see now on the new logs if it changes or if it
still shows ' scrubbed '

Jon

On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Justin Aplin jmap...@ufl.edu wrote:
 On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:04 AM, Jon wrote:

 Yes, I did the save the file. This is a given, sorry.

 This may also be a given, but did you restart Tor after doing this? AFAIK
 (and I may be wrong), Tor does not read changes made to the torrc after
 initialization.

 I had added the ' SafeLogging 0 ' to the file as per Tor-ops
 message/reply. Twenty four hours later when I saw that it had not
 removed the ' scrubbed ' and replaced it with the node/address, I
 checked the file again and it was not in the file where I put it.

 Was Vidalia running when you edited the torrc? Vidalia (on Windows, at
 least) has a bad habit of overwriting changes to the torrc that it isn't
 aware of. Personally I think there should be a Confirm before modifying
 torrc checkbox in Vidalia.


 I just checked it now, It is still in the file, but the logs still
 show the ' scubbed' and not the address as supposedly the '
 SafeLogging 0 ' was to replace. Time wise it appears to be at a
 minimum of once an hour. Which makes me believe it is the same address
 that is being scrubbed.

 Try shutting down both Tor and Vidalia, making your edits, restarting both,
 and rechecking your torrc/logs. If you've done all this, please let us know.

 ~Justin Aplin



 OS is WIndows

 Jon


 What do you mean by 'removed itself'? Was the file never saved, or was
 there a point at which something else reverted it, or was it something
 else entirely?

 Also, which operating system are you using?


 -
 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 6:59 PM, katmagic the.magical@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:02:20 -0500
 Jon torance...@gmail.com wrote:

 I saw a message from Tor-op in reference to a similar problem and his
 solution was:

 Add the below line to your torrc and the scrubbed will be replaced by
 the domain in question.

 SafeLogging 0

 of which I tried, but it would not stay in the torrc file. It seems to
 remove it self at some point.

 As far as I can tell it never worked, but unknown how long after I
 placed it before it got removed.

 Jon

 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Jon torance...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have noticed over the past 2 weeks, I have been getting an unusual
 amount of scrubs. It doesn't tell me which addresses are being
 scrubbed, so I don't know if they are the same or different ones. It
 does not affect the operation of Tor. Just fills up the logs.

 Is there a way to have the '[scrubbed]' removed and the address put
 in its place?

 Thanks,

 Jon

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Re: Excessive scrubs

2010-10-14 Thread Jon
Justin,

Ok, I just checked the torrc file and my last entry was still there. I just
updated the OS and rebooted and rechecked the file and nothing has
been removed.

Will see now on the new logs if it changes or if it
still shows ' scrubbed ' . I will let you know within 24hrs either way.

Jon

On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Justin Aplin jmap...@ufl.edu wrote:
 On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:04 AM, Jon wrote:

 Yes, I did the save the file. This is a given, sorry.

 This may also be a given, but did you restart Tor after doing this? AFAIK
 (and I may be wrong), Tor does not read changes made to the torrc after
 initialization.

 I had added the ' SafeLogging 0 ' to the file as per Tor-ops
 message/reply. Twenty four hours later when I saw that it had not
 removed the ' scrubbed ' and replaced it with the node/address, I
 checked the file again and it was not in the file where I put it.

 Was Vidalia running when you edited the torrc? Vidalia (on Windows, at
 least) has a bad habit of overwriting changes to the torrc that it isn't
 aware of. Personally I think there should be a Confirm before modifying
 torrc checkbox in Vidalia.


 I just checked it now, It is still in the file, but the logs still
 show the ' scubbed' and not the address as supposedly the '
 SafeLogging 0 ' was to replace. Time wise it appears to be at a
 minimum of once an hour. Which makes me believe it is the same address
 that is being scrubbed.

 Try shutting down both Tor and Vidalia, making your edits, restarting both,
 and rechecking your torrc/logs. If you've done all this, please let us know.

 ~Justin Aplin



 OS is WIndows

 Jon


 What do you mean by 'removed itself'? Was the file never saved, or was
 there a point at which something else reverted it, or was it something
 else entirely?

 Also, which operating system are you using?


 -
 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 6:59 PM, katmagic the.magical@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:02:20 -0500
 Jon torance...@gmail.com wrote:

 I saw a message from Tor-op in reference to a similar problem and his
 solution was:

 Add the below line to your torrc and the scrubbed will be replaced by
 the domain in question.

 SafeLogging 0

 of which I tried, but it would not stay in the torrc file. It seems to
 remove it self at some point.

 As far as I can tell it never worked, but unknown how long after I
 placed it before it got removed.

 Jon

 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Jon torance...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have noticed over the past 2 weeks, I have been getting an unusual
 amount of scrubs. It doesn't tell me which addresses are being
 scrubbed, so I don't know if they are the same or different ones. It
 does not affect the operation of Tor. Just fills up the logs.

 Is there a way to have the '[scrubbed]' removed and the address put
 in its place?

 Thanks,

 Jon

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Re: Excessive scrubs

2010-10-14 Thread Jon
Justin,

The first of the scrubs have now showed for the past 4 hrs. Once an
hour. It is now showing the address and it is the same address. It is
a ' geoips vidalia ' address ( am not showing complete addy ).
Apparently for some reason it is not resolving or connecting to
address. I did attempt to try directly, with a couple of different
ways and was not able to access the site.

If you want the complete address, I will put in later.

Will see if it is the only one that shows up over the next 12 hrs.

Jon


On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Justin Aplin jmap...@ufl.edu wrote:
 On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:04 AM, Jon wrote:



 I had added the ' SafeLogging 0 ' to the file as per Tor-ops
 message/reply. Twenty four hours later when I saw that it had not
 removed the ' scrubbed ' and replaced it with the node/address, I
 checked the file again and it was not in the file where I put it.

 Was Vidalia running when you edited the torrc? Vidalia (on Windows, at
 least) has a bad habit of overwriting changes to the torrc that it isn't
 aware of. Personally I think there should be a Confirm before modifying
 torrc checkbox in Vidalia.


 I just checked it now, It is still in the file, but the logs still
 show the ' scubbed' and not the address as supposedly the '
 SafeLogging 0 ' was to replace. Time wise it appears to be at a
 minimum of once an hour. Which makes me believe it is the same address
 that is being scrubbed.

 Try shutting down both Tor and Vidalia, making your edits, restarting both,
 and rechecking your torrc/logs. If you've done all this, please let us know.

 ~Justin Aplin



 OS is WIndows

 Jon


 What do you mean by 'removed itself'? Was the file never saved, or was
 there a point at which something else reverted it, or was it something
 else entirely?

 Also, which operating system are you using?


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 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 6:59 PM, katmagic the.magical@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:02:20 -0500
 Jon torance...@gmail.com wrote:

 I saw a message from Tor-op in reference to a similar problem and his
 solution was:

 Add the below line to your torrc and the scrubbed will be replaced by
 the domain in question.

 SafeLogging 0

 of which I tried, but it would not stay in the torrc file. It seems to
 remove it self at some point.

 As far as I can tell it never worked, but unknown how long after I
 placed it before it got removed.

 Jon

 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Jon torance...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have noticed over the past 2 weeks, I have been getting an unusual
 amount of scrubs. It doesn't tell me which addresses are being
 scrubbed, so I don't know if they are the same or different ones. It
 does not affect the operation of Tor. Just fills up the logs.

 Is there a way to have the '[scrubbed]' removed and the address put
 in its place?

 Thanks,

 Jon

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 there a point at which something else reverted it, or was it something
 else entirely?

 Also, which operating system are you using?

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Re: Excessive scrubs

2010-10-14 Thread TorOp

Upgrade Vidalia to 0.2.10 and the problem will go away.

On 10/14/2010 6:20 PM, Jon wrote:

Justin,

The first of the scrubs have now showed for the past 4 hrs. Once an
hour. It is now showing the address and it is the same address. It is
a ' geoips vidalia ' address ( am not showing complete addy ).
Apparently for some reason it is not resolving or connecting to
address. I did attempt to try directly, with a couple of different
ways and was not able to access the site.

If you want the complete address, I will put in later.

Will see if it is the only one that shows up over the next 12 hrs.

Jon


On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Justin Aplinjmap...@ufl.edu  wrote:

On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:04 AM, Jon wrote:






I had added the ' SafeLogging 0 ' to the file as per Tor-ops
message/reply. Twenty four hours later when I saw that it had not
removed the ' scrubbed ' and replaced it with the node/address, I
checked the file again and it was not in the file where I put it.


Was Vidalia running when you edited the torrc? Vidalia (on Windows, at
least) has a bad habit of overwriting changes to the torrc that it isn't
aware of. Personally I think there should be a Confirm before modifying
torrc checkbox in Vidalia.



I just checked it now, It is still in the file, but the logs still
show the ' scubbed' and not the address as supposedly the '
SafeLogging 0 ' was to replace. Time wise it appears to be at a
minimum of once an hour. Which makes me believe it is the same address
that is being scrubbed.


Try shutting down both Tor and Vidalia, making your edits, restarting both,
and rechecking your torrc/logs. If you've done all this, please let us know.

~Justin Aplin


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Re: tor-ramdisk 20101011 released for i686 only

2010-10-14 Thread Anthony G. Basile
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On 10/11/2010 11:25 PM, Anders Andersson wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Jacob Appelbaum ja...@appelbaum.net wrote:
 On 10/11/2010 10:52 AM, Anthony G. Basile wrote:

 Hi everyone

 I want to announce to the list that a new release of tor-ramdisk is out.
 Tor-ramdisk is an i686, x86_64 or MIPS uClibc-based micro Linux
 distribution whose only purpose is to host a Tor server in an
 environment that maximizes security and privacy. Security is enhenced by
 hardening the kernel and binaries, and privacy is enhanced by forcing
 logging to be off at all levels so that even the Tor operator only has
 access to minimal information. Finally, since everything runs in
 ephemeral memory, no information survives a reboot, except for the Tor
 configuration file and the private RSA key, which may be
 exported/imported by FTP.


 Via FTP? It's probably not a good idea to export a private key without
 using encryption...

 All the best,
 Jake
 
 My first thought as well. Pretty much every protocol invented is
 better than FTP, in this case and most other cases.
 
 Another question regarding the logging: I hope you include enough to
 know if the node is working correctly or not. The logs that are
 generated could also be deleted after a couple of minutes or an hour
 as well, which might make it possible to log some more information if
 necessary to verify functionality.
 
 Great project though, a lot of people request this.
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Originally I thought of tor-ramdisk as only being accessed via FTP on a
trusted LAN.  However, several people have suggested using the image in
the cloud.  I have plans on adding sftp.

Also, you can enable logging to console for diagnostics.

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Re: Tor Bundle vs. Vidalia Bundle

2010-10-14 Thread zzzjethro666

 

 


 

 

-Original Message-
From: Justin Aplin jmap...@ufl.edu
To: or-talk@freehaven.net
Sent: Thu, Oct 14, 2010 10:31 pm
Subject: Re: Tor Bundle vs. Vidalia Bundle



On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:14 AM, zzzjethro...@email2me.net wrote:


 
 hi.
 What is the difference between a Vidalia Bundle and a Tor Bundle, other than 
what I perceive as the obvious?
 One without the other? I thought they had to work together.



What they have to do depends on what you're trying to do. The Tor program by 
itself does the legwork of building circuits and passing data to/from the 
network. It has no GUI and acts based on settings in the torrc text file. Tor 
is available on its own in the Expert Packages section of the download page, 
as the only people using Tor on its own are likely bridge, relay, and exit 
operators who know what they're doing. It's not a bundle per se.


Vidalia is GUI program that interacts with Tor and makes its settings easier to 
handle, along with other nifty features such as viewing the network, logs, etc. 
The Vidalia Bundle on the download page is designed to be installed on a 
computer you'll be using Tor on regularly. That is, it isn't portable, can't 
easily be carried with you on a USB key or CD, and doesn't come with an 
internet browser. The bundle includes Polipo, which makes funneling HTTP and 
SOCKS proxies into Tor easier and safer.


The Tor Browser Bundle (the bundle I assume you're talking about in your 
post) is the same set of programs, together with a locked-down version of 
Firefox, that it designed to be completely portable. You don't have to install 
it, so it's easy to carry with you on a USB key or CD. Tor, Vidalia, Polipo, 
and the customized Firefox are all seamlessly started with a single button in 
this package.


All of this information is available on the download pages and in the 
documentation, I'd recommend reading through them.


~Justin Aplin
=Thanks Justin.
Your explanation was very clear, and for someone like me, I need that. Perhaps 
you could write directions for others to use, as most I've read seem to be 
written only for the one writing them rather than thinking and writing for the 
one reading them!

I do appreciate it and I will continue to read the documentation as per your 
suggestion. Sure would like to help a lot more people to use Tor.

Adios