Re: U.S. begins censoring Internet at U.K.'s request
On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 16:03:24 -0500 David Carlson carlson...@sbcglobal.net wrote: On 11/6/2010 1:02 PM, Scott Bennett wrote: I wrote: http://news.antiwar.com/2010/11/05/us-censors-muslim-websites-list-of-= british-mps-who-supported-iraq-war/ Using exit chuckthecanuck gives a Google (!) error page, saying = URL not found. I'll add that exit to my ExcludeExitNodes list with a comm= ent that the reason is due to DNS hijacking that is probably related to U.= S. censorship. I changed my mind. I'm adding {ca},{uk},{us} to my ExcludeExitNod= es list with an appropriate comment for later removal in case the U.S. eve= r calls off its War on the Internet. :-( How do we know whether that article is accurate, and if it is, is it a Have you tried it? The name servers still resolve the name to an address, but attempts to reach the address, either by name or by IP address, in a web browser yield only a Google error page. single event or a result of a change in policy. How could it have been implemented anyway? Routing table fraud seems a likely modus operandi. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * ** * A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army. * *-- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ** *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Finally: Tor on Android W/O Rooting!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The latest beta of Firefox 4 on Android (and Maemo) is quite nice. You can get it here: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/mobile/ However, it is lacking the ability to even manually set proxy settings through any sort of usable interface. Android also lacks the ability to set system wide proxy settings, which has been a real problem with getting Orbot (aka Tor on Android) working for normal users. I have taken the first step towards porting TorButton to Firefox on Android, and created a very simple add-on which exposes the proxy settings. This means you can use Orbot on Android 2.x devices and route your web traffic through it without needing to root your device! Also, since I know understand how Firefox mobile add-ons are built, I can now start engaging with Mike around a full port of TorButton. For now though, if you are eager to play, you can find proxymob here: https://guardianproject.info/downloads/proxymob-addon-0.0.5.xpi https://guardianproject.info/downloads/proxymob-addon-0.0.5.xpi.asc Source is here: https://github.com/guardianproject/ProxyMob +nathan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkzWTSwACgkQhemw+yiNNc6nlgCdGFQQqjCPZFymGHgST/nLADYG 7yoAn0kpGKrLZeenCvu+GTE5tz31EqiV =sRnw -END PGP SIGNATURE- *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
You know you have arrived in yet another sense
In the article linked to below in the Baltimore Sun, Protect yourself against Internet eavesdropping, there is interestingly no mention of Tor as a network or as a privacy tool that could itself be used to protect you, but If you use the Firefox browser, you could also install the HTTPS Everywhere extension developed by the Electronic Frontier Foundation and the Tor Project, dedicated to improving Web privacy. http://www.baltimoresun.com/business/bs-bz-public-wifi-security-consuming-20101106,0,2503186.story -Paul *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: U.S. begins censoring Internet at U.K.'s request
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Scott Bennett benn...@cs.niu.edu wrote: I wrote: http://news.antiwar.com/2010/11/05/us-censors-muslim-websites-list-of-british-mps-who-supported-iraq-war/ Using exit chuckthecanuck gives a Google (!) error page, saying URL not found. I'll add that exit to my ExcludeExitNodes list with a comment that the reason is due to DNS hijacking that is probably related to U.S. censorship. I changed my mind. I'm adding {ca},{uk},{us} to my ExcludeExitNodes list with an appropriate comment for later removal in case the U.S. ever calls off its War on the Internet. :-( I don't understand why excluding all exit nodes from the US, CA, and UK, especially if you have only one exit node showing the error? Altho, I may not understand or I misinterpreted your email I had no issues with getting the website on google. I had to copy and paste the url as it would not go directly from the email. Actually, almost all the url's lately from the email;s don't go directly, I have to cut and paste to get to them. Jon *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: U.S. begins censoring Internet at U.K.'s request
On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 08:05 -0600, Jon torance...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Scott Bennett benn...@cs.niu.edu wrote: I wrote: http://news.antiwar.com/2010/11/05/us-censors-muslim-websites-list-of-british-mps-who-supported-iraq-war/ Using exit chuckthecanuck gives a Google (!) error page, saying URL not found. I'll add that exit to my ExcludeExitNodes list with a comment that the reason is due to DNS hijacking that is probably related to U.S. censorship. I changed my mind. I'm adding {ca},{uk},{us} to my ExcludeExitNodes list with an appropriate comment for later removal in case the U.S. ever calls off its War on the Internet. :-( I don't understand why excluding all exit nodes from the US, CA, and UK, especially if you have only one exit node showing the error? Altho, I may not understand or I misinterpreted your email I had no issues with getting the website on google. I had to copy and paste the url as it would not go directly from the email. Actually, almost all the url's lately from the email;s don't go directly, I have to cut and paste to get to them. Jon The OP is presumably saying that the domain refered to in the antiwar.com story is unreachable, not antiwar.com itself. That's because it's been suspended by the registrar: tor-resolve returns no IP for it and the .com root server reports that no such domain exists. There may be cached entries floating around though. GD -- http://www.fastmail.fm - IMAP accessible web-mail *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: U.S. begins censoring Internet at U.K.'s request
On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 14:17:20 + Geoff Down geoffd...@fastmail.net wrote: On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 08:05 -0600, Jon torance...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Scott Bennett benn...@cs.niu.edu wrote: I wrote: http://news.antiwar.com/2010/11/05/us-censors-muslim-websites-list-of-british-mps-who-supported-iraq-war/ Using exit chuckthecanuck gives a Google (!) error page, saying URL not found. I'll add that exit to my ExcludeExitNodes list with a comment that the reason is due to DNS hijacking that is probably related to U.S. censorship. I changed my mind. I'm adding {ca},{uk},{us} to my ExcludeExitNodes list with an appropriate comment for later removal in case the U.S. ever calls off its War on the Internet. :-( I don't understand why excluding all exit nodes from the US, CA, and UK, especially if you have only one exit node showing the error? Altho, I may not understand or I misinterpreted your email I had no issues with getting the website on google. I had to copy and paste the url as it would not go directly from the email. Actually, almost all the url's lately from the email;s don't go directly, I have to cut and paste to get to them. Jon The OP is presumably saying that the domain refered to in the antiwar.com story is unreachable, not antiwar.com itself. That's because it's been suspended by the registrar: tor-resolve returns no IP for it and the .com root server reports that no such domain exists. There may be cached entries floating around though. Actually, before posting my original note, I had used tor-resolve to look for an IP address, and it quickly returned 74.125.93.121. Doing a reverse lookup of that address (also with tor-resolve -x) returned not the original name but rather qw-in-f121.1e100.net. Plugging either the IP address or the latter name into the URL got me the same Google error page. Now, however, tor-resolve on the original name returns [warn] Got SOCKS5 status response '4': host is unreachable but the reverse lookup still gives the name shown above. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * ** * A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army. * *-- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ** *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: U.S. begins censoring Internet at U.K.'s request
On 11/06/2010 11:02 AM, Scott Bennett wrote: I wrote: http://news.antiwar.com/2010/11/05/us-censors-muslim-websites-list-of-british-mps-who-supported-iraq-war/ Using exit chuckthecanuck gives a Google (!) error page, saying URL not found. I'll add that exit to my ExcludeExitNodes list with a comment that the reason is due to DNS hijacking that is probably related to U.S. censorship. I changed my mind. I'm adding {ca},{uk},{us} to my ExcludeExitNodes list with an appropriate comment for later removal in case the U.S. ever calls off its War on the Internet. :-( Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG - facepalms - War on the Internet? Wow... read anything about China lately? ;o) -- F. Fox *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: U.S. begins censoring Internet at U.K.'s request
On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 08:29 -0600, Scott Bennett benn...@cs.niu.edu wrote: On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 14:17:20 + Geoff Down geoffd...@fastmail.net wrote: On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 08:05 -0600, Jon torance...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Scott Bennett benn...@cs.niu.edu wrote: I wrote: http://news.antiwar.com/2010/11/05/us-censors-muslim-websites-list-of-british-mps-who-supported-iraq-war/ Using exit chuckthecanuck gives a Google (!) error page, saying URL not found. I'll add that exit to my ExcludeExitNodes list with a comment that the reason is due to DNS hijacking that is probably related to U.S. censorship. I changed my mind. I'm adding {ca},{uk},{us} to my ExcludeExitNodes list with an appropriate comment for later removal in case the U.S. ever calls off its War on the Internet. :-( I don't understand why excluding all exit nodes from the US, CA, and UK, especially if you have only one exit node showing the error? Altho, I may not understand or I misinterpreted your email I had no issues with getting the website on google. I had to copy and paste the url as it would not go directly from the email. Actually, almost all the url's lately from the email;s don't go directly, I have to cut and paste to get to them. Jon The OP is presumably saying that the domain refered to in the antiwar.com story is unreachable, not antiwar.com itself. That's because it's been suspended by the registrar: tor-resolve returns no IP for it and the .com root server reports that no such domain exists. There may be cached entries floating around though. Actually, before posting my original note, I had used tor-resolve to look for an IP address, and it quickly returned 74.125.93.121. Doing a reverse lookup of that address (also with tor-resolve -x) returned not the original name but rather qw-in-f121.1e100.net. Plugging either the IP address or the latter name into the URL got me the same Google error page. Now, however, tor-resolve on the original name returns [warn] Got SOCKS5 status response '4': host is unreachable but the reverse lookup still gives the name shown above. Both domain 1e100.net and IP 74.125.93.121 beong to Google - hence the Google error message. Whether the censored domain was originally hosted there, or the DNS record was temporarily changed before deletion, I couldn't say. GD -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A no graphics, no pop-ups email service *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: U.S. begins censoring Internet at U.K.'s request
On 11/06/2010 11:02 AM, Scott Bennett wrote: I wrote: http://news.antiwar.com/2010/11/05/us-censors-muslim-websites-list-of-british-mps-who-supported-iraq-war/ Using exit chuckthecanuck gives a Google (!) error page, saying URL not found. I'll add that exit to my ExcludeExitNodes list with a comment that the reason is due to DNS hijacking that is probably related to U.S. censorship. I changed my mind. I'm adding {ca},{uk},{us} to my ExcludeExitNodes list with an appropriate comment for later removal in case the U.S. ever calls off its War on the Internet. :-( Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG A more pragmatic response than my first one: It's awful soon to be saying it's war, given it's one website. It could just be an error of some kind, or someone could have taken the site offline on their end. It's just something I was taught: Don't be quick to imply malice on the part of others, since mistakes are far more common. -- F. Fox *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Firefox,FireFTP,FTP etc. downloads anonymity.
When we read the Tor FAQs related to anonymity of ftp tranfers there are several questions that come to mind: 1)Is the most recent Filezilla really secure/tested so we can trust the anonymity it provides through Tor?(something close to Firefox/Privoxy/Torbutton?) 2)Using Firefox 3.6.12 and FireFTP 1.0.9(most recent versions) downloading from Adobe(Flash Player,Adobe Reader,for example) I receive a warning that an external application is being launched -accept or reject-,is this app FireFTP?Is this warning coming from Torbutton?Does FireFTP 1.0.9 still leak DNS requests? 3)When it comes to ftp through Tor and reading the Tor FAQs it seems the better solution is 3proxy,however this software is not integrated on the major (any?)linux distributions and downloading directly it must be done from a russian website.The guys behind 3proxy can be really trustworthy but I do not feel specially comfortable using the software.
Re: Firefox,FireFTP,FTP etc. downloads anonymity.
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 10:39:25 -0800 (PST) Luis Maceira luis_a_mace...@yahoo.com wrote: When we read the Tor FAQs related to anonymity of ftp tranfers there are several questions that come to mind: 1)Is the most recent Filezilla really secure/tested so we can trust the anonymity it provides through Tor?(something close to Firefox/Privoxy/Torbutton?) Supporting SOCKS4A is a good sign -- that means it might not leak DNS requests -- but I don't think the Tor developers have reviewed it to check for other anonymity and security issues. 2)Using Firefox 3.6.12 and FireFTP 1.0.9(most recent versions) downloading from Adobe(Flash Player,Adobe Reader,for example) I receive a warning that an external application is being launched -accept or reject-,is this app FireFTP?Is this warning coming from Torbutton?Does FireFTP 1.0.9 still leak DNS requests? Torbutton displays that warning when you start to download a file that Firefox will not display itself. Saving the file to disk with Firefox itself (with no extensions) probably won't break your anonymity. I don't know whether using FireFTP to download the file will break your anonymity. However, if you run or open the downloaded file (whether after or instead of saving the file to disk) on a computer that will ever again be connected to the Internet, your anonymity can quite easily be compromised (through unique identifiers hidden inside an executable file, for example). 3)When it comes to ftp through Tor and reading the Tor FAQs it seems the better solution is 3proxy,however this software is not integrated on the major (any?)linux distributions and downloading directly it must be done from a russian website.The guys behind 3proxy can be really trustworthy but I do not feel specially comfortable using the software. What is 3proxy? Robert Ransom signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[OT] Re: U.S. begins censoring Internet at U.K.'s request
- Original Message From: F. Fox kitsune...@gmail.com To: or-talk@freehaven.net Sent: Sun, November 7, 2010 7:19:15 PM Subject: Re: U.S. begins censoring Internet at U.K.'s request It's awful soon to be saying it's war, given it's one website. It could just be an error of some kind, or someone could have taken the site offline on their end. It's just something I was taught: Don't be quick to imply malice on the part of others, since mistakes are far more common. A site going down after a takedown request is more likely than it actually being taken down? We should play cards sometime... Here is more, this time from CNN, except CNN presents net censorship as a good thing. http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/11/05/uk.lawmaker.hit.list/?hpt=T2 CNN has targeted that website for a long time. A search yields several CNN results that rebuke the site. Here is a Google cache of claims from the site operator that CNN aired different questions than the ones he was asked during a telephone interview. http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:FV_0VxaglCIJ:www.revolutionmuslim.com/2010/10/press-release-by-anjem-choudary.html+revolutionmuslim+cnncd=4hl=enct=clnkclient=firefox-a *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Vidalia GeoIP
Hi, I don't use Vidalia much, so I can't say how long this has been the case, but the last couple of times I have started it up (with Tor already running) there has been no GeoIP data - no flags in the relay list, no lines on the map. I've not observed any calls to the GeoIP server either. Tor's log does say 'Parsing GEOIP file' at each startup. I'm using Tor 0.2.2.15-alpha/Vidalia 0.2.6 on OSX10.3 PPC GD -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Does exactly what it says on the tin *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: Vidalia GeoIP
On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 03:07:43 + Geoff Down geoffd...@fastmail.net wrote: Hi, I don't use Vidalia much, so I can't say how long this has been the case, but the last couple of times I have started it up (with Tor already running) there has been no GeoIP data - no flags in the relay list, no lines on the map. I've not observed any calls to the GeoIP server either. Tor's log does say 'Parsing GEOIP file' at each startup. I'm using Tor 0.2.2.15-alpha/Vidalia 0.2.6 on OSX10.3 PPC See https://blog.torproject.org/blog/shutting-down-vidalia-geoip-mapping-server and upgrade to Vidalia 0.2.10 . Robert Ransom signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: U.S. begins censoring Internet at U.K.'s request
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010, Scott Bennett wrote: Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG What do those two acronyms (ASMELG, CFIAG) mean ? *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/