Re: U.S. begins censoring Internet at U.K.'s request

2010-11-07 Thread Scott Bennett
 On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 16:03:24 -0500 David Carlson carlson...@sbcglobal.net
wrote:
On 11/6/2010 1:02 PM, Scott Bennett wrote:
  I wrote:
 http://news.antiwar.com/2010/11/05/us-censors-muslim-websites-list-of-=
british-mps-who-supported-iraq-war/

 Using exit chuckthecanuck gives a Google (!) error page, saying =
URL
 not found.  I'll add that exit to my ExcludeExitNodes list with a comm=
ent
 that the reason is due to DNS hijacking that is probably related to U.=
S.
 censorship.
  I changed my mind.  I'm adding {ca},{uk},{us} to my ExcludeExitNod=
es
 list with an appropriate comment for later removal in case the U.S. eve=
r
 calls off its War on the Internet. :-(


How do we know whether that article is accurate, and if it is, is it a

 Have you tried it?  The name servers still resolve the name to an address,
but attempts to reach the address, either by name or by IP address, in a web
browser yield only a Google error page.

single event or a result of a change in policy.  How could it have been
implemented anyway?

 Routing table fraud seems a likely modus operandi.


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Finally: Tor on Android W/O Rooting!

2010-11-07 Thread Nathan Freitas
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The latest beta of Firefox 4 on Android (and Maemo) is quite nice. You
can get it here: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/mobile/

However, it is lacking the ability to even manually set proxy settings
through any sort of usable interface. Android also lacks the ability to
set system wide proxy settings, which has been a real problem with
getting Orbot (aka Tor on Android) working for normal users.

I have taken the first step towards porting TorButton to Firefox on
Android, and created a very simple add-on which exposes the proxy
settings. This means you can use Orbot on Android 2.x devices and route
your web traffic through it without needing to root your device! Also,
since I know understand how Firefox mobile add-ons are built, I can now
start engaging with Mike around a full port of TorButton. For now
though, if you are eager to play, you can find proxymob here:

https://guardianproject.info/downloads/proxymob-addon-0.0.5.xpi
https://guardianproject.info/downloads/proxymob-addon-0.0.5.xpi.asc

Source is here:
https://github.com/guardianproject/ProxyMob

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You know you have arrived in yet another sense

2010-11-07 Thread Paul Syverson
In the article linked to below in the Baltimore Sun, Protect yourself
against Internet eavesdropping, there is interestingly no mention of
Tor as a network or as a privacy tool that could itself be used to
protect you, but

   If you use the Firefox browser, you could also install the HTTPS
   Everywhere extension developed by the Electronic Frontier
   Foundation and the Tor Project, dedicated to improving Web privacy.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/business/bs-bz-public-wifi-security-consuming-20101106,0,2503186.story

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Re: U.S. begins censoring Internet at U.K.'s request

2010-11-07 Thread Jon
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Scott Bennett benn...@cs.niu.edu wrote:
     I wrote:
http://news.antiwar.com/2010/11/05/us-censors-muslim-websites-list-of-british-mps-who-supported-iraq-war/

     Using exit chuckthecanuck gives a Google (!) error page, saying URL
not found.  I'll add that exit to my ExcludeExitNodes list with a comment
that the reason is due to DNS hijacking that is probably related to U.S.
censorship.

     I changed my mind.  I'm adding {ca},{uk},{us} to my ExcludeExitNodes
 list with an appropriate comment for later removal in case the U.S. ever
 calls off its War on the Internet. :-(


 I don't understand why excluding all exit nodes from the US, CA, and
UK, especially if you have only one exit node showing the error?
Altho, I may not understand or I misinterpreted your email

I had no issues with getting the website on google. I had to copy and
paste the url as it would not go directly from the email. Actually,
almost all the url's lately from the email;s don't go directly, I have
to cut and paste to get to them.

Jon
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Re: U.S. begins censoring Internet at U.K.'s request

2010-11-07 Thread Geoff Down


On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 08:05 -0600, Jon torance...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Scott Bennett benn...@cs.niu.edu wrote:
  I wrote:
 http://news.antiwar.com/2010/11/05/us-censors-muslim-websites-list-of-british-mps-who-supported-iraq-war/
 
  Using exit chuckthecanuck gives a Google (!) error page, saying URL
 not found.  I'll add that exit to my ExcludeExitNodes list with a comment
 that the reason is due to DNS hijacking that is probably related to U.S.
 censorship.
 
  I changed my mind.  I'm adding {ca},{uk},{us} to my ExcludeExitNodes
  list with an appropriate comment for later removal in case the U.S. ever
  calls off its War on the Internet. :-(
 
 
  I don't understand why excluding all exit nodes from the US, CA, and
 UK, especially if you have only one exit node showing the error?
 Altho, I may not understand or I misinterpreted your email
 
 I had no issues with getting the website on google. I had to copy and
 paste the url as it would not go directly from the email. Actually,
 almost all the url's lately from the email;s don't go directly, I have
 to cut and paste to get to them.
 
 Jon
 
The OP is presumably saying that the domain refered to in the
antiwar.com story is unreachable, not antiwar.com itself.
That's because it's been suspended by the registrar: tor-resolve returns
no IP for it and the .com root server reports that no such domain
exists. There may be cached entries floating around though.

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Re: U.S. begins censoring Internet at U.K.'s request

2010-11-07 Thread Scott Bennett
 On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 14:17:20 + Geoff Down geoffd...@fastmail.net
wrote:
On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 08:05 -0600, Jon torance...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Scott Bennett benn...@cs.niu.edu wrote:
  I wrote:
 http://news.antiwar.com/2010/11/05/us-censors-muslim-websites-list-of-british-mps-who-supported-iraq-war/
 
  Using exit chuckthecanuck gives a Google (!) error page, saying URL
 not found.  I'll add that exit to my ExcludeExitNodes list with a comment
 that the reason is due to DNS hijacking that is probably related to U.S.
 censorship.
 
  I changed my mind.  I'm adding {ca},{uk},{us} to my ExcludeExitNodes
  list with an appropriate comment for later removal in case the U.S. ever
  calls off its War on the Internet. :-(
 
 
  I don't understand why excluding all exit nodes from the US, CA, and
 UK, especially if you have only one exit node showing the error?
 Altho, I may not understand or I misinterpreted your email
 
 I had no issues with getting the website on google. I had to copy and
 paste the url as it would not go directly from the email. Actually,
 almost all the url's lately from the email;s don't go directly, I have
 to cut and paste to get to them.
 
 Jon
 
The OP is presumably saying that the domain refered to in the
antiwar.com story is unreachable, not antiwar.com itself.
That's because it's been suspended by the registrar: tor-resolve returns
no IP for it and the .com root server reports that no such domain
exists. There may be cached entries floating around though.

 Actually, before posting my original note, I had used tor-resolve to
look for an IP address, and it quickly returned 74.125.93.121.  Doing a
reverse lookup of that address (also with tor-resolve -x) returned not the
original name but rather qw-in-f121.1e100.net.  Plugging either the IP
address or the latter name into the URL got me the same Google error page.
 Now, however, tor-resolve on the original name returns
[warn] Got SOCKS5 status response '4': host is unreachable
but the reverse lookup still gives the name shown above.


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Re: U.S. begins censoring Internet at U.K.'s request

2010-11-07 Thread F. Fox

On 11/06/2010 11:02 AM, Scott Bennett wrote:

  I wrote:

http://news.antiwar.com/2010/11/05/us-censors-muslim-websites-list-of-british-mps-who-supported-iraq-war/

 Using exit chuckthecanuck gives a Google (!) error page, saying URL
not found.  I'll add that exit to my ExcludeExitNodes list with a comment
that the reason is due to DNS hijacking that is probably related to U.S.
censorship.


  I changed my mind.  I'm adding {ca},{uk},{us} to my ExcludeExitNodes
list with an appropriate comment for later removal in case the U.S. ever
calls off its War on the Internet. :-(


   Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG


- facepalms -

War on the Internet? Wow... read anything about China lately? ;o)

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Re: U.S. begins censoring Internet at U.K.'s request

2010-11-07 Thread Geoff Down


On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 08:29 -0600, Scott Bennett benn...@cs.niu.edu
wrote:
  On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 14:17:20 + Geoff Down
  geoffd...@fastmail.net
 wrote:
 On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 08:05 -0600, Jon torance...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Scott Bennett benn...@cs.niu.edu wrote:
   I wrote:
  http://news.antiwar.com/2010/11/05/us-censors-muslim-websites-list-of-british-mps-who-supported-iraq-war/
  
   Using exit chuckthecanuck gives a Google (!) error page, saying 
   URL
  not found.  I'll add that exit to my ExcludeExitNodes list with a comment
  that the reason is due to DNS hijacking that is probably related to U.S.
  censorship.
  
   I changed my mind.  I'm adding {ca},{uk},{us} to my ExcludeExitNodes
   list with an appropriate comment for later removal in case the U.S. ever
   calls off its War on the Internet. :-(
  
  
   I don't understand why excluding all exit nodes from the US, CA, and
  UK, especially if you have only one exit node showing the error?
  Altho, I may not understand or I misinterpreted your email
  
  I had no issues with getting the website on google. I had to copy and
  paste the url as it would not go directly from the email. Actually,
  almost all the url's lately from the email;s don't go directly, I have
  to cut and paste to get to them.
  
  Jon
  
 The OP is presumably saying that the domain refered to in the
 antiwar.com story is unreachable, not antiwar.com itself.
 That's because it's been suspended by the registrar: tor-resolve returns
 no IP for it and the .com root server reports that no such domain
 exists. There may be cached entries floating around though.
 
  Actually, before posting my original note, I had used tor-resolve to
 look for an IP address, and it quickly returned 74.125.93.121.  Doing a
 reverse lookup of that address (also with tor-resolve -x) returned not
 the
 original name but rather qw-in-f121.1e100.net.  Plugging either the IP
 address or the latter name into the URL got me the same Google error
 page.
  Now, however, tor-resolve on the original name returns
 [warn] Got SOCKS5 status response '4': host is unreachable
 but the reverse lookup still gives the name shown above.

Both domain 1e100.net and IP 74.125.93.121 beong to Google - hence the
Google error message. Whether the censored domain was originally hosted
there, or the DNS record was temporarily changed before deletion, I
couldn't say.
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Re: U.S. begins censoring Internet at U.K.'s request

2010-11-07 Thread F. Fox

On 11/06/2010 11:02 AM, Scott Bennett wrote:

  I wrote:

http://news.antiwar.com/2010/11/05/us-censors-muslim-websites-list-of-british-mps-who-supported-iraq-war/

 Using exit chuckthecanuck gives a Google (!) error page, saying URL
not found.  I'll add that exit to my ExcludeExitNodes list with a comment
that the reason is due to DNS hijacking that is probably related to U.S.
censorship.


  I changed my mind.  I'm adding {ca},{uk},{us} to my ExcludeExitNodes
list with an appropriate comment for later removal in case the U.S. ever
calls off its War on the Internet. :-(


   Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG


A more pragmatic response than my first one:

It's awful soon to be saying it's war, given it's one website. It could 
just be an error of some kind, or someone could have taken the site 
offline on their end.


It's just something I was taught: Don't be quick to imply malice on the 
part of others, since mistakes are far more common.


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Firefox,FireFTP,FTP etc. downloads anonymity.

2010-11-07 Thread Luis Maceira
When we read the Tor FAQs related to anonymity of ftp tranfers there are 
several questions that come to mind:
1)Is the most recent Filezilla really secure/tested so we can trust the 
anonymity it provides through Tor?(something close to 
Firefox/Privoxy/Torbutton?)
2)Using Firefox 3.6.12 and FireFTP 1.0.9(most recent versions) downloading from 
Adobe(Flash Player,Adobe Reader,for example) I receive a warning that an 
external application is being launched -accept or reject-,is this app 
FireFTP?Is this warning coming from Torbutton?Does FireFTP 1.0.9 still leak DNS 
requests?
3)When it comes to ftp through Tor and reading the Tor FAQs it seems the better 
solution is 3proxy,however this software is not integrated on the major 
(any?)linux distributions and downloading directly it must be done from a 
russian website.The guys behind 3proxy can be really trustworthy but I do not 
feel specially comfortable using the software.


  

Re: Firefox,FireFTP,FTP etc. downloads anonymity.

2010-11-07 Thread Robert Ransom
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 10:39:25 -0800 (PST)
Luis Maceira luis_a_mace...@yahoo.com wrote:

 When we read the Tor FAQs related to anonymity of ftp tranfers there are 
 several questions that come to mind:
 1)Is the most recent Filezilla really secure/tested so we can trust the 
 anonymity it provides through Tor?(something close to 
 Firefox/Privoxy/Torbutton?)

Supporting SOCKS4A is a good sign -- that means it might not leak DNS
requests -- but I don't think the Tor developers have reviewed it to
check for other anonymity and security issues.

 2)Using Firefox 3.6.12 and FireFTP 1.0.9(most recent versions) downloading 
 from Adobe(Flash Player,Adobe Reader,for example) I receive a warning that an 
 external application is being launched -accept or reject-,is this app 
 FireFTP?Is this warning coming from Torbutton?Does FireFTP 1.0.9 still leak 
 DNS requests?

Torbutton displays that warning when you start to download a file that
Firefox will not display itself.  Saving the file to disk with Firefox
itself (with no extensions) probably won't break your anonymity.  I
don't know whether using FireFTP to download the file will break your
anonymity.

However, if you run or open the downloaded file (whether after or
instead of saving the file to disk) on a computer that will ever again
be connected to the Internet, your anonymity can quite easily be
compromised (through unique identifiers hidden inside an executable
file, for example).

 3)When it comes to ftp through Tor and reading the Tor FAQs it seems the 
 better solution is 3proxy,however this software is not integrated on the 
 major (any?)linux distributions and downloading directly it must be done from 
 a russian website.The guys behind 3proxy can be really trustworthy but I do 
 not feel specially comfortable using the software.

What is 3proxy?


Robert Ransom


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[OT] Re: U.S. begins censoring Internet at U.K.'s request

2010-11-07 Thread Curious Kid
- Original Message 

 From: F. Fox kitsune...@gmail.com
 To: or-talk@freehaven.net
 Sent: Sun, November 7, 2010 7:19:15 PM
 Subject: Re: U.S. begins censoring Internet at U.K.'s request
 
 It's awful soon to be saying it's war, given it's one website.  It could 
 just be an error of some kind, or someone could have taken the site 
 offline on their end.
 
 It's just something I was taught: Don't be  quick to imply malice on the 
 part of others, since mistakes are far more  common.
 

A site going down after a takedown request is more likely than it actually 
being 
taken down? We should play cards sometime...

Here is more, this time from CNN, except CNN presents net censorship as a good 
thing.

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/11/05/uk.lawmaker.hit.list/?hpt=T2

CNN has targeted that website for a long time. A search yields several CNN 
results that rebuke the site. Here is a Google cache of claims from the site 
operator that CNN aired different questions than the ones he was asked during a 
telephone interview.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:FV_0VxaglCIJ:www.revolutionmuslim.com/2010/10/press-release-by-anjem-choudary.html+revolutionmuslim+cnncd=4hl=enct=clnkclient=firefox-a


  
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Vidalia GeoIP

2010-11-07 Thread Geoff Down
Hi,
I don't use Vidalia much, so I can't say how long this has been the
case, but the last couple of times I have started it up (with Tor
already running) there has been no GeoIP data - no flags in the relay
list, no lines on the map. I've not observed any calls to the GeoIP
server either.
Tor's log does say 'Parsing GEOIP file' at each startup.
 I'm using Tor 0.2.2.15-alpha/Vidalia 0.2.6 on OSX10.3 PPC
GD

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Re: Vidalia GeoIP

2010-11-07 Thread Robert Ransom
On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 03:07:43 +
Geoff Down geoffd...@fastmail.net wrote:

 Hi,
 I don't use Vidalia much, so I can't say how long this has been the
 case, but the last couple of times I have started it up (with Tor
 already running) there has been no GeoIP data - no flags in the relay
 list, no lines on the map. I've not observed any calls to the GeoIP
 server either.
 Tor's log does say 'Parsing GEOIP file' at each startup.
  I'm using Tor 0.2.2.15-alpha/Vidalia 0.2.6 on OSX10.3 PPC

See
https://blog.torproject.org/blog/shutting-down-vidalia-geoip-mapping-server
and upgrade to Vidalia 0.2.10 .


Robert Ransom


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Re: U.S. begins censoring Internet at U.K.'s request

2010-11-07 Thread John Case


On Sun, 7 Nov 2010, Scott Bennett wrote:



 Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG



What do those two acronyms (ASMELG, CFIAG) mean ?
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