Re: Index of hidden services?

2011-01-07 Thread Nils Vogels
Hi,

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 20:22, Peter McCann
mc...@freeovernetfoundation.org wrote:

 If not, what do people think about setting up such an index?
 It seems like it might be very useful for those operators of
 hidden services that want to expose them to a wider audience
 than just the people they give the .onion name to.  Being able
 to browse or search the hidden services might also be useful.

As long as the hidden services are manually added, i can see where
it's a good idea. The second some kind of automation starts kicking
in, scanning for hidden services, I think this is a Bad Idea.

Hidden services are called hidden for a reason: You need to look to
find them. And that is one of the features that is key here, IMHO.

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Re: Index of hidden services?

2011-01-07 Thread Andrew Lewman
On Fri, 7 Jan 2011 13:22:58 -0600
Peter McCann mc...@freeovernetfoundation.org wrote:

 On the website describing how to set up a hidden service
 I saw a mention of a (hypothetical?) Hidden Services Wiki
 where pointers to hidden services are stored.  Does such a wiki exist?
 If so, where can I find it?

Years ago, there was a popular place called The hidden wiki which was
the only one in existence, that anyone knew about.  It was then
beseiged by child porn links and images and went away.  Since then,
many different services claiming to be the hidden wiki have
come and gone.

Someone also tried to setup a google search appliance to crawl all
of .onion space.  It didn't get very far for the obvious reason of
most hidden service sites don't want to be found by the general
population. The services don't link to each other, and they may be on
random ports.  It's possible one could create a search engine that
crawls every possible .onion hostname on common tcp ports (80, 443,
8080, 8443).  Over long periods of time, this may find many hidden
services.

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polipo-tor deb/ubuntu native package

2011-01-07 Thread travis+ml-tor-talk
Attached.

I'm gonna make this available on a personal repo in the near future
(this weekend or next)... the tools are kinda wonky.

All architectures - no binaries - has a proper list of dependencies I
think, though I should add vidalia and make some of them optional
probably.

I've advertised this a few times, to virtually no response.  The
tor-assistants mlist has been confused, with people telling me they
weren't sure what their ubuntu strategy was, whether they even wanted
debian packages, etc.

I haven't, for the life of me, been able to even figure out who to
talk to.  I've posted emails perhaps 3 times, with virtually no
feedback.  Nobody's apparently doing anything.  I don't blame them,
because the debian packaging tools and docs are complicated and
annoying.

So, I'm just publishing this myself.

If you apt-get this from a repo, it'll install every package you
need, IIUC.

Then install torbutton, one click and you're on tor.
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Re: Index of hidden services?

2011-01-07 Thread Moritz Bartl
Hi,

Am 07.01.2011 22:26, schrieb Andrew Lewman:
 It's possible one could create a search engine that
 crawls every possible .onion hostname on common tcp ports (80, 443,
 8080, 8443).  Over long periods of time, this may find many hidden
 services.

I haven't given it much thought yet, but I like the idea of a central
index and an option in torrc that publishes my .onion to this index (and
maybe even push website changes/locally crawl the site).

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Re: Index of hidden services?

2011-01-07 Thread Øyvind Sæther
 On the website describing how to set up a hidden service
 I saw a mention of a (hypothetical?) Hidden Services Wiki
 where pointers to hidden services are stored.  Does such a wiki exist?
 If so, where can I find it?

There could be rumors on the internet(s) that there may be a
mediawiki-based wiki with links to .onion sites at
http://kpvz7ki2v5agwt35.onion/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

There could also be rumors that there is a list of links at
http://dppmfxaacucguzpc.onion/

There could even, possibly, be some search-engine at
http://oqznfi3tdo6nwg3f.onion/
 
 If not, what do people think about setting up such an index?
 It seems like it might be very useful for those operators of
 hidden services that want to expose them to a wider audience
 than just the people they give the .onion name to.  Being able
 to browse or search the hidden services might also be useful.

Expose? Wider audience? Nothing indicates I ever visited a hidden
service, but I doubt those who do and those who operate such sites, if
they even exist, require the wider audience.
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Re: Index of hidden services?

2011-01-07 Thread Dirk
Nils Vogels wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 20:22, Peter McCann
 mc...@freeovernetfoundation.org wrote:

 If not, what do people think about setting up such an index?
 It seems like it might be very useful for those operators of
 hidden services that want to expose them to a wider audience
 than just the people they give the .onion name to.  Being able
 to browse or search the hidden services might also be useful.
 
 As long as the hidden services are manually added, i can see where
 it's a good idea. The second some kind of automation starts kicking
 in, scanning for hidden services, I think this is a Bad Idea.

scanning 36^16 possible hidden services is out of discussion... at least for 
me... that's why i stopped cloning google...
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Arm Release 1.4.1

2011-01-07 Thread Damian Johnson
Hi everyone. The next version of arm (1.4.1) is available including
the proc querying enhancements, Fabian's BSD compatibility patches,
and numerous other improvements:
https://blog.torproject.org/blog/arm-release-141

Updates to the packages and repositories will be staggered a week
(just in case issues are discovered over the next new days). Feedback
and bug reports are always welcome! -Damian
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