Re: torr file question...

2011-02-04 Thread Matthew



On 04/02/11 08:26, Zaher F. wrote:


thx for ur answer but still i need help in how to fix my exitnode
---


Surely you would write:

StrictExitNodes 1
ExitNodes name_of_node or fingerprint (no spaces in fingerprint).


RE: torr file question...

2011-02-04 Thread Zaher F .

is it going to be like that ??

This file was generated by Tor; if you edit it, comments will not be preserved
# The old torrc file was renamed to torrc.orig.1 or similar, and Tor will 
ignore it

# If set, Tor will accept connections from the same machine (localhost only)
# on this port, and allow those connections to control the Tor process using
# the Tor Control Protocol (described in control-spec.txt).
ControlPort 9051
# Where to send logging messages. Format is minSeverity[-maxSeverity]
# (stderr|stdout|syslog|file FILENAME).
Log notice stdout
# Bind to this address to listen to connections from SOCKS-speaking
# applications.
SocksListenAddress 127.0.0.1

StrictExitNodes 1

ExitNodes name_of_node or fingerprint (no spaces in fingerprint). 



or should i delete something from the torrc file above...???

Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 09:12:23 +
From: pump...@cotse.net
To: or-talk@freehaven.net
Subject: Re: torr file question...



  



  
  




On 04/02/11 08:26, Zaher F. wrote:

  
  

  thx for ur answer but still i need help in how to fix my
  exitnode

  


Surely you would write:



StrictExitNodes 1

ExitNodes name_of_node or fingerprint (no spaces in fingerprint). 
  

Re: cease and desist from my vps provider...

2011-02-04 Thread morphium
Hi again.

2011/2/4 Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org:
 Things have changed a lot, then, and for the better. Wait until you
 got hit by DDoS or a couple, and then see whether Hetzner is still
 cooperative.

I just asked them, they told me they'll only block the affected IP,
not the whole server. That is fine with me, as I'm running my Tor Exit
node on a vServer only for that purpose.

 Another major, personal nuisance is if you're in the wrong Bundesland, or
 whether the criminal investigator is clueful, or actually Tor-hostile.

I already had a raid due to my Exit Node... so, I'm not worried :)

Best regards,
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Re: cease and desist from my vps provider...

2011-02-04 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 11:33:01AM +0100, morphium wrote:

 I just asked them, they told me they'll only block the affected IP,

Also interesting, in the two cases of DDoS I had my entire systems
cut off, and had to phone in to explain the situation and make the
network accessible.

Nullrouting is actually pretty common as a DDoS response.

 not the whole server. That is fine with me, as I'm running my Tor Exit
 node on a vServer only for that purpose.
 
  Another major, personal nuisance is if you're in the wrong Bundesland, or
  whether the criminal investigator is clueful, or actually Tor-hostile.
 
 I already had a raid due to my Exit Node... so, I'm not worried :)

Good luck, here's your cojones de latón award, and I hope you'll get your 
hardware back soon!

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Re: [scrubbed].onion and log level

2011-02-04 Thread cmeclax-sazri
On Thursday 03 February 2011 23:43:33 Robert Ransom wrote:
 Add:

 SafeLogging 0

 to your torrc.

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Re: cease and desist from my vps provider...

2011-02-04 Thread Matthew



I already had a raid due to my Exit Node... so, I'm not worried :)


Can you explain what happened, please?
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Re: torr file question...

2011-02-04 Thread Jon
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 4:20 AM, Zaher F. the_one_man...@hotmail.com wrote:
 is it going to be like that ??

 This file was generated by Tor; if you edit it, comments will not be
 preserved
 # The old torrc file was renamed to torrc.orig.1 or similar, and Tor will
 ignore it

 # If set, Tor will accept connections from the same machine (localhost only)
 # on this port, and allow those connections to control the Tor process using
 # the Tor Control Protocol (described in control-spec.txt).
 ControlPort 9051
 # Where to send logging messages. Format is minSeverity[-maxSeverity]
 # (stderr|stdout|syslog|file FILENAME).
 Log notice stdout
 # Bind to this address to listen to connections from SOCKS-speaking
 # applications.
 SocksListenAddress 127.0.0.1

 StrictExitNodes 1
 ExitNodes name_of_node or fingerprint (no spaces in fingerprint).



 or should i delete something from the torrc file above...???

 


 Don't delete anything , just add your

StrictExitNodes 1
ExitNodes name_of_node or fingerprint (no spaces in fingerprint).

you should be good to go  :)
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Tor raid [was: cease and desist from my vps provider...]

2011-02-04 Thread morphium
2011/2/4 Matthew pump...@cotse.net:

 I already had a raid due to my Exit Node... so, I'm not worried :)

 Can you explain what happened, please?

It happened 4 years ago... they came, took every hardware they could
find, took more than a year to analyze it, they found nothing (they
were looking for child pornography - someone downloaded via my tor
exit from swoopshare) and gave my hardware back after 2 years.
The trial is still ongoing, but there has only been 1 day in court
(about a year ago), the judge acknowledged that he doesnt understand
what we explained about Tor and such, said he wants an assessor, and
we'll see again in about 8 weeks (a year ago!).
My lawyer now asked 2 or 3 times at the court, when  how we'll
continue, but didn't get a response yet. Doesn't seem like the judge
wants to carry on fast.

(I also got letters from the federal police asking who had my Tor IP
at a specific point in time, got heard at the police (You are not
required to say anything at the german police, but I preferred to take
a laptop there and show them what Tor is and how it works - they
appreciated that [and I lowered my risk of getting raided another time
;) ]) and such things).

morphium
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Re: Tor raid [was: cease and desist from my vps provider...]

2011-02-04 Thread morphium
 It happened 4 years ago... they came, took every hardware they could
 find, took more than a year to analyze it, they found nothing (they
 were looking for child pornography - someone downloaded via my tor
 exit from swoopshare) and gave my hardware back after 2 years.

Oh and yes, they took only my hardware @ home, not the Server in the
data center that actually DID run Tor and that the bad IP belonged
to.
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Re: Tor raid [was: cease and desist from my vps provider...]

2011-02-04 Thread Matthew



It happened 4 years ago... they came, took every hardware they could
find, took more than a year to analyze it, they found nothing (they
were looking for child pornography - someone downloaded via my tor
exit from swoopshare) and gave my hardware back after 2 years.
The trial is still ongoing, but there has only been 1 day in court
(about a year ago), the judge acknowledged that he doesnt understand
what we explained about Tor and such, said he wants an assessor, and
we'll see again in about 8 weeks (a year ago!).


So are you suing the police if the case is continuing but your hardware has 
been returned?




My lawyer now asked 2 or 3 times at the court, when  how we'll
continue, but didn't get a response yet. Doesn't seem like the judge
wants to carry on fast.

(I also got letters from the federal police asking who had my Tor IP
at a specific point in time, got heard at the police (You are not
required to say anything at the german police, but I preferred to take
a laptop there and show them what Tor is and how it works - they
appreciated that [and I lowered my risk of getting raided another time
;) ]) and such things).

morphium
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Re: Tor raid [was: cease and desist from my vps provider...]

2011-02-04 Thread morphium
I think

2011/2/4 Matthew pump...@cotse.net:
 So are you suing the police if the case is continuing but your hardware has
 been returned?

I think they will have to pay compensation after I got my acquittal.
But that has to be checked afterwards.

And, if the case continues at it current ... speed ..., this can be in
3, 5 or 10 years.

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Re: IP address blocked on certain site

2011-02-04 Thread Geoff Down


On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 22:21 -0500, Aplin, Justin M jmap...@ufl.edu
wrote:
 On 2/3/2011 8:28 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote:
  I am using Torbutton.  It is supposed to Torrify Firefox - yes?
 
 In a roundabout way, yes. Torbutton forwards Firefox traffic to Polipo, 
 which in turn sends the traffic to the SOCKS port of Tor. Disabling 
 Torbutton and entering the Tor SOCKS information into Firefox's network 
 configuration would skip the Polipo part, and eliminate any problems you 
 might be having with some hidden Polipo cache.
 I understood that Firefox couldn't be trusted to not leak DNS requests,
 hence the need for an HTTP proxy like Polipo. I'm running an old
 version of Firefox though - are the newer ones fixed in this regard?
GD

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Re: IP address blocked on certain site

2011-02-04 Thread Joe Btfsplk

On 2/3/2011 10:23 PM, Robert Ransom wrote:

On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 22:21:34 -0500
Aplin, Justin Mjmap...@ufl.edu  wrote:


On 2/3/2011 8:28 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote:

I am using Torbutton.  It is supposed to Torrify Firefox - yes?

In a roundabout way, yes. Torbutton forwards Firefox traffic to Polipo,
which in turn sends the traffic to the SOCKS port of Tor. Disabling
Torbutton and entering the Tor SOCKS information into Firefox's network
configuration would skip the Polipo part, and eliminate any problems 
you

might be having with some hidden Polipo cache.

Turning off 'Use Polipo' in the Torbutton Preferences dialog would be
easier and much safer.


Robert Ransom


Do this. I haven't used Tor as a client in months, I'd completely 
forgotten this was an option. My bad.


~Justin Aplin

Thanks.  I can see turning off Polipo as a test, but IF it turns out to 
be the problem, wouldn't that warrant opening a bug ticket?  After all, 
it really shouldn't be sending addresses no longer valid (or allowing 
sites to access the old info) - yes?  I'd rather not have to stop using 
Polipo completely.  It has a lot of useful functions.


I'm not aware of hidden cache in Polipo - others may know more - 
please chime in.  Given it's only happened on one site (this was a free, 
completely open site), maybe it's a fluke.  I really thought others 
would've seen a lot of same problem.  Apparently not.  I'll try to 
recreate problem  make notes as go thru ea step of trying to clear 
caches, closing apps / processes, etc.

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Re: cease and desist from my vps provider...

2011-02-04 Thread Jordi Espasa Clofent

El 2011-02-03 19.39, Jan Weiher escribió:

Interesting. Hetzner is officially down on anything which causes
them trouble (benji said so himself, repeatedly), so they're
effectively accepting of a Tor middleman, but Tor exits are
probably going to be pretty short-lived in Hetzner space.



If you got your own IP space with own ripe contact, all the abuse mails
will go to you, so it does not cause trouble to them at all. Maybe this
is what is meant with you are responsible.


M sorry but ¿do you know exactly what you´re talking about?
To get your own IP space isn't a trivial process, nor cheap. Use the 
next link as a starting point to know something about: 
http://ripe.net/membership/new-members/index.html


You shouldn't confuss the people. Get your own IP space it's only 
possible for enterprises and even if you´re an enterprise you need a 
complex network engineering behind you.


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Re: IP address blocked on certain site

2011-02-04 Thread Joe Btfsplk


On 2/4/2011 8:52 AM, Geoff Down wrote:

I understood that Firefox couldn't be trusted to not leak DNS requests,
  hence the need for an HTTP proxy like Polipo. I'm running an old
  version of Firefox though - are the newer ones fixed in this regard?
GD

Good point.  Don't know if Fx is fixed on that.  Can check.  But, that's 
not only benefit of using Polipo.


This just in!  I discovered Polipo wasn't configured to start w/ Tor, as 
of today.  Don't know what happened.  When install the bundle, usually 
sets up Polipo up automatically (did in past Vidalia bundle vers.).  So, 
set it up thru Vidalia UI Settings.  Restarted Tor,  Polipo did 
start.  Went to the trouble site - got the same msg again:
Firewall software decided your IP address (199.48.147.35) is abusing 
this server. Use of automated software that does not follow 
/robots.txt is forbidden. Broken RSS reader is the most common cause. 
Any idea what this really means?  Searched web for above string - found 
nothing.  Don't think the msg has anything to do the the specific 
address, but fact it's coming ? from Tor, or some other info being 
w/held from the site, that they won't allow access unless missing info 
is given?



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IP WHOIS Reassignment (was: Re: cease and desist from my vps provider...)

2011-02-04 Thread Moritz Bartl
Hi,

On 04.02.2011 16:38, Jordi Espasa Clofent wrote:
 If you got your own IP space with own ripe contact, all the abuse mails
 will go to you, so it does not cause trouble to them at all. Maybe this
 is what is meant with you are responsible.
 M sorry but ¿do you know exactly what you´re talking about?
 To get your own IP space isn't a trivial process, nor cheap. Use the
 next link as a starting point to know something about:
 http://ripe.net/membership/new-members/index.html
 You shouldn't confuss the people. Get your own IP space it's only
 possible for enterprises and even if you´re an enterprise you need a
 complex network engineering behind you.

You can get the PA subnet reallocated to you as a customer of a LIR
without additional cost.

Examples:
ARIN: http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-74-120-15-144-1/pft
RIPE: http://www.db.ripe.net/whois?searchtext=79.140.39.227

For ARIN, you have to convince your ISP to submit a reallocation
request. The process can be eased as follows: Go to arin.net, create
your own POC records and ORG ID. I have attached a template I used to
get an IP range reassigned to my OrgID TORSE and attach handle
TAD54-ARIN for abuse and TORSE-ARIN for tech.

All the ISP has to do is fill out points 20 to 23 with info about the
subnet, copy and paste the text-based template into the body of an
e-mail and send to hostmas...@arin.net with the subject line REASSIGN
DETAILED.
The original form including more comments is at
https://www.arin.net/resources/templates/reassign-detailed.txt

I am not sure how it works for RIPE, but as you can see from the example
above, it can be done.

-- 
Moritz Bartl
http://www.torservers.net/
Template: ARIN-REASSIGN-DETAILED-4.2
**  As of October 2007
**  Detailed instructions are located below the template.

01. Downstream Org ID: TORSE
** IF DOWNSTREAM ORG ID IS PROVIDED SKIP TO LINE 20.

02. Org Name:
03. Org Address:
03. Org Address:
04. Org City:
05. Org State/Province:
06. Org Postal Code:
07. Org Country Code:
08. Org POC Handle:
** IF POC HANDLE IS PROVIDED SKIP TO LINE 20.

09. Org POC Contact Type (P or R): 
10. Org POC Last Name or Role Account:
11. Org POC First Name:
12. Org POC Company Name:
13. Org POC Address:
13. Org POC Address:
14. Org POC City:
15. Org POC State/Province:
16. Org POC Postal Code:
17. Org POC Country Code:
18. Org POC Office Phone Number:
19. Org POC E-mail Address:

** NETWORK SECTION
20. IP Address and Prefix or Range: 
21. Network Name:
22. Origin AS:
23. Hostname of DNS Reverse Mapping Nameserver:
23. Hostname of DNS Reverse Mapping Nameserver:

** OPTIONAL RESOURCE CONTACT SECTION
24. Net POC Type (T, AB, or N): AB

25. Net POC Handle: TAD54-ARIN

24. Net POC Type (T, AB, or N): T, N

25. Net POC Handle: TORSE-ARIN

** IF POC HANDLE IS PROVIDED SKIP TO LINE 37.

26. Net POC Contact Type (P or R):
27. Net POC Last Name or Role Account:
28. Net POC First Name:
29. Net POC Company Name:
30. Net POC Address:
30. Net POC Address:
31. Net POC City:
32. Net POC State/Province:
33. Net POC Postal Code:
34. Net POC Country Code:
35. Net POC Office Phone Number:
36. Net POC E-mail Address:

** OTHER OPTIONAL FIELDS
37. Public Comments: ---
37. Public Comments: This network is used for research in
37. Public Comments: anonymization and censorship circumvention
37. Public Comments: and provides Tor exit nodes to end users.
37. Public Comments: 
37. Public Comments: http://www.torservers.net/abuse.html
37. Public Comments: Direct abuse issues to ab...@torservers.net
37. Public Comments: ---
38. Additional Information:

END OF TEMPLATE



Re: IP WHOIS Reassignment

2011-02-04 Thread Moritz Bartl
On 04.02.2011 16:55, Moritz Bartl wrote:
 I am not sure how it works for RIPE, but as you can see from the example
 above, it can be done.

What you want to ask your ISP for is ASSIGNED PA space. In constrast
to provider independent IP space (PI), PA space can only be used within
the network of the ISP.

Quote http://www.ripe.net/docs/ripe-492.html#9
ASSIGNED PA: This address space has been assigned to an End User for
use with services provided by the issuing LIR. It cannot be kept when
terminating services provided by the LIR. 

-- 
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http://www.torservers.net/

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Re: IP WHOIS Reassignment (was: Re: cease and desist from my vps provider...)

2011-02-04 Thread morphium
Hi!

2011/2/4 Moritz Bartl mor...@torservers.net:
 You can get the PA subnet reallocated to you as a customer of a LIR
 without additional cost.

Would that be such a reallocation:
http://www.db.ripe.net/whois?searchtext=46.4.237.146

Because I'm mentioned there first for my /25, but Hetzner is mentioned aswell.

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morphium
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Re: IP WHOIS Reassignment

2011-02-04 Thread Moritz Bartl
On 04.02.2011 17:05, morphium wrote:
 You can get the PA subnet reallocated to you as a customer of a LIR
 without additional cost.
 Would that be such a reallocation:
 http://www.db.ripe.net/whois?searchtext=46.4.237.146

Yes.

 Because I'm mentioned there first for my /25, but Hetzner is mentioned aswell.

That is correct. The difference between the assignment to you by Hetzner
and the assignment of 79.140.39.227 to the CCC is that Hetzner attached
its ORG handle to the larger netblock, which Vollmar didn't.

It would be a good idea to get Hetzner to add an abuse-mailbox and a Fax
number to your person object. Police investigators still prefer to use Fax.
-- 
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Re: IP address blocked on certain site

2011-02-04 Thread Joe Btfsplk



On 2/4/2011 9:43 AM, Joe Btfsplk wrote:


This just in!  I discovered Polipo wasn't configured to start w/ Tor, 
as of today.  Don't know what happened.  When install the bundle, 
usually sets up Polipo up automatically (did in past Vidalia bundle 
vers.).  So, set it up thru Vidalia UI Settings.  Restarted Tor,  
Polipo did start.  Went to the trouble site - got the same msg again:
Firewall software decided your IP address (199.48.147.35) is abusing 
this server. Use of automated software that does not follow 
/robots.txt is forbidden. Broken RSS reader is the most common cause. 
Any idea what this really means?  Searched web for above string - 
found nothing.  Don't think the msg has anything to do the the 
specific address, but fact it's coming ? from Tor, or some other info 
being w/held from the site, that they won't allow access unless 
missing info is given?


No ideas yet on what automated software that doesn't follow /robots.txt 
is forbidden, means?


I tried again  this time got on the site.
Shut down Tor.
  Firefox - cleared cache.
Restarted Fx  Tor w/o Polipo or Torbutton enabled - accessed site OK.
Shut all down again, as above,  restarted FX, Tor w/ Polipo but 
Torbutton disabled - accessed site OK.

Repeated shut down  clearing cache,
Restarted Fx, Tor, Polipo  Torbutton - accessed site OK.  Checked what 
IP address Tor exit node was using - diff, of course, from one shown 
above that was blocked.


Seems site blocking access is related to _specific IP addresses_?  There 
ARE no differences in setup of my Tor / Pol. / Torbutton today (when 
site access successful) as other day when blocked.  One GOOD thing 
learned is by following all shutdown steps above, seemed to be able to 
stop same (old, incorrect) IP address being accessed / given to site.  
Other day, must've been something about sequence of shutdown / clearing 
cache that didn't clear the old IP address.


UNKNOWN:  When installed latest Vidalia bundle few days ago, did NOT 
check to see if Polipo was installed / running.  My guess is it WAS, 
because today the reason I checked on Polipo is Fx would NOT connect w/o 
it.  Common problem for many - get msg to effect, firefox is refusing 
to connect... blah, blah.  Getting Polipo started fixes this prob 
immediately.


Re: IP address blocked on certain site

2011-02-04 Thread cmeclax-sazri
On Friday 04 February 2011 13:38:14 Joe Btfsplk wrote:
 No ideas yet on what automated software that doesn't follow /robots.txt
 is forbidden, means?

robots.txt is a file put on some websites as a directive to robots. If you run 
a wiki, and you want only current versions, not the hundreds of previous 
versions of every page, indexed, you could put a directive in robots.txt, or 
label the pages themselves as noindex nofollow. Automated software that 
ignores such directives is likely to eat up huge amounts of bandwidth and 
create copies that are many times bigger than the original.

cmeclax
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Re: IP address blocked on certain site

2011-02-04 Thread Joe Btfsplk

On 2/4/2011 2:42 PM, cmeclax-sazri wrote:
robots.txt is a file put on some websites as a directive to robots. If 
you run

a wiki, and you want only current versions, not the hundreds of previous
versions of every page, indexed, you could put a directive in robots.txt, or
label the pages themselves as noindex nofollow. Automated software that
ignores such directives is likely to eat up huge amounts of bandwidth and
create copies that are many times bigger than the original.

cmeclax
So how does that relate to Tor?  Do sites using this see Tor as a 
robot?  I didn't even get on the site.  Plus, there're no files to d/l 
from it - at least not from an avg users capability.

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Re: IP address blocked on certain site

2011-02-04 Thread cmeclax-sazri
On Friday 04 February 2011 16:10:13 Joe Btfsplk wrote:
 So how does that relate to Tor?  Do sites using this see Tor as a
 robot?  I didn't even get on the site.  Plus, there're no files to d/l
 from it - at least not from an avg users capability.

Probably the web server saw so many accesses from the exit node that it 
thought it was a robot.

cmeclax
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Loader source

2011-02-04 Thread Greg Kalitnikoff
Hi. Maybe I`m blind or too lazy, but I cannot find source for windows
loader of Tor Browser Bundle - Start Tor Browser.exe. Please provide
link 

Thank you.
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Re: IP address blocked on certain site

2011-02-04 Thread Curious Kid
Why, after getting all new nodes  especially new exit node IP address (I 
confirmed was a new address), would Tor send an old   IP address (? from 
memory) to the site?  Doesn't make sense.  If Tor WAS sending an old 
address 


(to any site) after getting new exit address, something's really wrong.  
Doubt that's the case.

You seem to have the misconception that Tor only uses one circuit at any given 
time, and that you can determine what IP address a server will think you are 
coming from by checking with a website. You can easily choose the same exits 
node after restarting Firefox, and I believe even after creating a new set of 
circuits with the Use a New Identity button in Vidalia.

Tor builds several circuits that you can use at any given time. I think three 
is 


default... You can try to check your IP address with a website, but you can 
choose a different circuit to check than the one you actually choose to hit 
your 


desired website. The IP address check would show the IP address of the exit 
node 


for one circuit, while it's possible that you could be hitting the website you 
want to use through the same exit node (of a different circuit) again and again.

If you are running Vidalia, click the View the Network button. You should see 
a 


list of the circuits Tor has built. Keep that window open while you surf, and 
you can see which circuits Tor is using.

To force Tor to use a particular exit node of your choosing, first add 
'AllowDotExit 1' to your torrc. Then you will be able to make requests using 
the 


.exit notation below:

https://gitweb.torproject.org/tor.git?a=blob_plain;hb=HEAD;f=doc/spec/address-spec.txt



SYNTAX:  [hostname].[name-or-digest].exit
   [name-or-digest].exit

For example: 

www.example.com.exampletornode.exit



  
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Re: Loader source

2011-02-04 Thread katmagic
On Sat,  5 Feb 2011 00:59:18 +0200 (EET)
Greg Kalitnikoff kalitnik...@privatdemail.net wrote:

 Hi. Maybe I`m blind or too lazy, but I cannot find source for windows
 loader of Tor Browser Bundle - Start Tor Browser.exe. Please provide
 link 
 
 Thank you.
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tor nodes help

2011-02-04 Thread Zaher F .

hello...


i am a beginner in tor software...
and read about tor exit node and other nodes...but i didnt understand them 
well..


can somebody direct me to somewhere that it can be helpful for tor nodes...??


 thx