Re: Excessive scrubs

2010-10-24 Thread Scott Bennett
 On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 08:11:25 -0500 Joe Btfsplk joebtfs...@gmx.com
wrote:
  So I won't make same 'mistakes' as Jon, please explain what you mean by:
 please learn to edit followups in-line, i.e., stop top-posting
[Isn't top posting the way most forums work? I'm guessing protocol is 
diff because it's a mailing list??  I haven't used mailing lists that 
much.]

 Nope.  I've never seen any non-tor-related lists where so many people
top-post.  On most lists to which I have ever subscribed, other subscribers
firmly object to top-posting when it appears on those lists.  Also, feel free
to visit

http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html
http://www.html-faq.com/etiquette/?toppost

and,
 please learn to list-reply, i.e. stop breaking threads
What is meant by list-reply vs stop breaking threads?  Aren't they 2 
diff things?

 This is something I've answered many times on this list already, but
I will answer it this one final time.  After this, anyone who gives a dam
can bloody well look up an instance of my explanation in the list archives.
 I think what he was referring to was the fact that I do not use a mail
interface that supports the use of optional headers for threaded reading of
mail by subject similar to the way threaded USENET newsreaders do it.  My
explanation in this case is in two parts:  1) regardless of the condition
of other subscribers to mailing lists, my eyeballs and brain work just fine,
so I have no trouble following the flow in the lists, including list digests,
which are what I receive for most of my list subscriptions outside of the
tor-related lists, especially for lists that are such low-volume lists as
the tor-related lists tend to be, and 2) it's out of my control anyway
because I not only am not the system administrator on this system, I have
merely a guest account for the primary purpose of dealing with email, so
I can't install mail software to suit the tastes of other people on the
lists to which I subscribe.

Respectfully Scott, some would consider your signature / long quote, w/ 
multiple rows of asterisks  dashes a bit excessive.  Doesn't bother me 
particularly, but would some.

 And some would consider phony names used in email to show lack of
courage of convictions when voicing opinions in public, although I do
recognize that there are some life-threatening situations where such practices
may be necessary to reduce/eliminate the risk and the lack of courage is
therefore forgivable.  I don't know your situation, and perhaps you are
exposed to such dangers, so I cannot comment upon the particular case of
your use of a seemingly phony name, nor do I let such usage bother me
as a rule either.
 Many people also would consider my .signature not to be excessive,
and there are many whose .signature blocks are far larger than mine, some
so much so that I would also be inclined to object if the owner were a
frequent poster.  FWIW, mine has gone through many changes over the years,
but I like the way it is at present.  If I run across another quotation that
I happen to like better, I may replace it.  For mailing list use, I normally
omit the postal address lines anyway as below.
 Although I didn't respond directly to Jon's reply, I'd like to thank
him for his update and its reassurance.


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OT: Etiquette (was Re: Excessive scrubs)

2010-10-24 Thread Hannah
Hi!

On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 03:04:16AM -0500, Scott Bennett wrote:

 I think what he was referring to was the fact that I do not use a mail
interface that supports the use of optional headers for threaded reading of
mail by subject similar to the way threaded USENET newsreaders do it.

While References for mail is rather new and very optional,
In-Reply-To is standardized in RFC822, i.e. very old already, and if
your mail reader program set it, it'd be enough for most thread
displays. If you're not the administrator of the box, you can still
ask the administrator of the box to fix at least the generation of
In-Reply-To.

[...]

Respectfully Scott, some would consider your signature / long quote, w/ 
multiple rows of asterisks  dashes a bit excessive.  Doesn't bother me 
particularly, but would some.

[...]

 Many people also would consider my .signature not to be excessive,
and there are many whose .signature blocks are far larger than mine, some
so much so that I would also be inclined to object if the owner were a
frequent poster.  FWIW, mine has gone through many changes over the years,
but I like the way it is at present.  If I run across another quotation that
I happen to like better, I may replace it.  For mailing list use, I normally
omit the postal address lines anyway as below.

One most important thing could possibly be to separate it using the -- 
convention. Then at least a few mail reader programs would offer the
option to hide it/grey it out and to hide it from the quotes in replies.

Kind regards,

Hannah.
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Re: OT: Etiquette (was Re: Excessive scrubs)

2010-10-24 Thread andrew
This is way off topic, please take it off the list.  Thanks.

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Re: Excessive scrubs

2010-10-24 Thread grarpamp
 And some would consider phony names used in email to show
 lack of courage of convictions when voicing opinions in public

Throughout history, some of the world's most important movements
and changes have originated with the Anonymous.

Anonymity is a tool whose use case is rightly selected solely by the
user, not others. As are defenses against it the purview of the latter.
Neither free to trample the other across the divide. It's a beautiful thing.

During such selection, certainly some would consider system nodes
run by those who speak against such anonymity (in whichever the case)
as fine candidates for their excludes... lest they become unreliable
partners (in whichever the heat, or the whim).

Then again, how does one select any particular partner from the
space, be it node or human? Which assertions are true? Which
shall stand? And what value to assign the many silent ones?

Most curious questions indeed.
Therefore, rest.
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Re: Excessive scrubs

2010-10-20 Thread Joe Btfsplk

 So I won't make same 'mistakes' as Jon, please explain what you mean by:

please learn to edit followups in-line, i.e., stop top-posting
[Isn't top posting the way most forums work? I'm guessing protocol is 
diff because it's a mailing list??  I haven't used mailing lists that 
much.]


and,

please learn to list-reply, i.e. stop breaking threads
What is meant by list-reply vs stop breaking threads?  Aren't they 2 
diff things?


Respectfully Scott, some would consider your signature / long quote, w/ 
multiple rows of asterisks  dashes a bit excessive.  Doesn't bother me 
particularly, but would some.



On 10/19/2010 4:46 PM, sigi wrote:

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 04:16:08PM -0500, Scott Bennett wrote:

   [massive top-posting sequence *deleted*  --SB]
  Two requests:
1) please learn to edit followups in-line, i.e., stop top-posting

please learn to list-reply, i.e. stop breaking threads

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Re: Excessive scrubs

2010-10-19 Thread Scott Bennett
 On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 08:29:04 -0500 Jon torance...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks, followup it is running properly now. I did an upgrade to
Vidalia only and it resolved the issue. There have been no more
scrubs.

  [massive top-posting sequence *deleted*  --SB]
 Two requests:
1) please learn to edit followups in-line, i.e., stop top-posting
2) if you plan to continue to run a relay with SafeLogging 0 in
   its torrc, please post the identifier fingerprint of the relay,
   so the rest of us can all add it to our ExcludeNodes lists.
   SafeLogging 0 is a security violation that is only intended for
   debugging a problem, not for normal use.  Read the documentation
   about it.


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Re: Excessive scrubs

2010-10-19 Thread sigi
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 04:16:08PM -0500, Scott Bennett wrote:

   [massive top-posting sequence *deleted*  --SB]
  Two requests:
   1) please learn to edit followups in-line, i.e., stop top-posting

please learn to list-reply, i.e. stop breaking threads

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Re: Excessive scrubs

2010-10-15 Thread Jon
TorOp

Thanks, I did upgrade Vidalia separately. It appears that it was
upgraded, but Tor has not been yet. Tho I believe it will be shortly.
However, it did resolve the issue.

Jon


On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 5:39 PM, TorOp to...@optonline.net wrote:
 Upgrade Vidalia to 0.2.10 and the problem will go away.

 On 10/14/2010 6:20 PM, Jon wrote:

 Justin,

 The first of the scrubs have now showed for the past 4 hrs. Once an
 hour. It is now showing the address and it is the same address. It is
 a ' geoips vidalia ' address ( am not showing complete addy ).
 Apparently for some reason it is not resolving or connecting to
 address. I did attempt to try directly, with a couple of different
 ways and was not able to access the site.

 If you want the complete address, I will put in later.

 Will see if it is the only one that shows up over the next 12 hrs.

 Jon


 On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Justin Aplinjmap...@ufl.edu  wrote:

 On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:04 AM, Jon wrote:



 I had added the ' SafeLogging 0 ' to the file as per Tor-ops
 message/reply. Twenty four hours later when I saw that it had not
 removed the ' scrubbed ' and replaced it with the node/address, I
 checked the file again and it was not in the file where I put it.

 Was Vidalia running when you edited the torrc? Vidalia (on Windows, at
 least) has a bad habit of overwriting changes to the torrc that it isn't
 aware of. Personally I think there should be a Confirm before modifying
 torrc checkbox in Vidalia.


 I just checked it now, It is still in the file, but the logs still
 show the ' scubbed' and not the address as supposedly the '
 SafeLogging 0 ' was to replace. Time wise it appears to be at a
 minimum of once an hour. Which makes me believe it is the same address
 that is being scrubbed.

 Try shutting down both Tor and Vidalia, making your edits, restarting
 both,
 and rechecking your torrc/logs. If you've done all this, please let us
 know.

 ~Justin Aplin

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Re: Excessive scrubs

2010-10-15 Thread Jon
Justin,

Thanks, followup it is running properly now. I did an upgrade to
Vidalia only and it resolved the issue. There have been no more
scrubs.

Jon



On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Justin Aplin jmap...@ufl.edu wrote:
 On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:04 AM, Jon wrote:

 Yes, I did the save the file. This is a given, sorry.

 This may also be a given, but did you restart Tor after doing this? AFAIK
 (and I may be wrong), Tor does not read changes made to the torrc after
 initialization.

 I had added the ' SafeLogging 0 ' to the file as per Tor-ops
 message/reply. Twenty four hours later when I saw that it had not
 removed the ' scrubbed ' and replaced it with the node/address, I
 checked the file again and it was not in the file where I put it.

 Was Vidalia running when you edited the torrc? Vidalia (on Windows, at
 least) has a bad habit of overwriting changes to the torrc that it isn't
 aware of. Personally I think there should be a Confirm before modifying
 torrc checkbox in Vidalia.


 I just checked it now, It is still in the file, but the logs still
 show the ' scubbed' and not the address as supposedly the '
 SafeLogging 0 ' was to replace. Time wise it appears to be at a
 minimum of once an hour. Which makes me believe it is the same address
 that is being scrubbed.

 Try shutting down both Tor and Vidalia, making your edits, restarting both,
 and rechecking your torrc/logs. If you've done all this, please let us know.

 ~Justin Aplin



 OS is WIndows

 Jon


 What do you mean by 'removed itself'? Was the file never saved, or was
 there a point at which something else reverted it, or was it something
 else entirely?

 Also, which operating system are you using?


 -
 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 6:59 PM, katmagic the.magical@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:02:20 -0500
 Jon torance...@gmail.com wrote:

 I saw a message from Tor-op in reference to a similar problem and his
 solution was:

 Add the below line to your torrc and the scrubbed will be replaced by
 the domain in question.

 SafeLogging 0

 of which I tried, but it would not stay in the torrc file. It seems to
 remove it self at some point.

 As far as I can tell it never worked, but unknown how long after I
 placed it before it got removed.

 Jon

 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Jon torance...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have noticed over the past 2 weeks, I have been getting an unusual
 amount of scrubs. It doesn't tell me which addresses are being
 scrubbed, so I don't know if they are the same or different ones. It
 does not affect the operation of Tor. Just fills up the logs.

 Is there a way to have the '[scrubbed]' removed and the address put
 in its place?

 Thanks,

 Jon

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Re: Excessive scrubs

2010-10-14 Thread Jon
Yes, I did the save the file. This is a given, sorry.

I had added the ' SafeLogging 0 ' to the file as per Tor-ops
message/reply. Twenty four hours later when I saw that it had not
removed the ' scrubbed ' and replaced it with the node/address, I
checked the file again and it was not in the file where I put it.

I just checked it now, It is still in the file, but the logs still
show the ' scubbed' and not the address as supposedly the '
SafeLogging 0 ' was to replace. Time wise it appears to be at a
minimum of once an hour. Which makes me believe it is the same address
that is being scrubbed.

OS is WIndows

Jon


 What do you mean by 'removed itself'? Was the file never saved, or was
 there a point at which something else reverted it, or was it something
 else entirely?

 Also, which operating system are you using?
-
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 6:59 PM, katmagic the.magical@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:02:20 -0500
 Jon torance...@gmail.com wrote:

 I saw a message from Tor-op in reference to a similar problem and his
 solution was:

 Add the below line to your torrc and the scrubbed will be replaced by
 the domain in question.

 SafeLogging 0

 of which I tried, but it would not stay in the torrc file. It seems to
 remove it self at some point.

 As far as I can tell it never worked, but unknown how long after I
 placed it before it got removed.

 Jon

 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Jon torance...@gmail.com wrote:
  I have noticed over the past 2 weeks, I have been getting an unusual
  amount of scrubs. It doesn't tell me which addresses are being
  scrubbed, so I don't know if they are the same or different ones. It
  does not affect the operation of Tor. Just fills up the logs.
 
  Is there a way to have the '[scrubbed]' removed and the address put
  in its place?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Jon
 
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 else entirely?

 Also, which operating system are you using?

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Re: Excessive scrubs

2010-10-14 Thread Justin Aplin

On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:04 AM, Jon wrote:


Yes, I did the save the file. This is a given, sorry.


This may also be a given, but did you restart Tor after doing this?  
AFAIK (and I may be wrong), Tor does not read changes made to the  
torrc after initialization.



I had added the ' SafeLogging 0 ' to the file as per Tor-ops
message/reply. Twenty four hours later when I saw that it had not
removed the ' scrubbed ' and replaced it with the node/address, I
checked the file again and it was not in the file where I put it.


Was Vidalia running when you edited the torrc? Vidalia (on Windows, at  
least) has a bad habit of overwriting changes to the torrc that it  
isn't aware of. Personally I think there should be a Confirm before  
modifying torrc checkbox in Vidalia.




I just checked it now, It is still in the file, but the logs still
show the ' scubbed' and not the address as supposedly the '
SafeLogging 0 ' was to replace. Time wise it appears to be at a
minimum of once an hour. Which makes me believe it is the same address
that is being scrubbed.


Try shutting down both Tor and Vidalia, making your edits, restarting  
both, and rechecking your torrc/logs. If you've done all this, please  
let us know.


~Justin Aplin




OS is WIndows

Jon


What do you mean by 'removed itself'? Was the file never saved, or  
was
there a point at which something else reverted it, or was it  
something

else entirely?

Also, which operating system are you using?

-
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 6:59 PM, katmagic  
the.magical@gmail.com wrote:

On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:02:20 -0500
Jon torance...@gmail.com wrote:

I saw a message from Tor-op in reference to a similar problem and  
his

solution was:

Add the below line to your torrc and the scrubbed will be replaced  
by

the domain in question.

SafeLogging 0

of which I tried, but it would not stay in the torrc file. It  
seems to

remove it self at some point.

As far as I can tell it never worked, but unknown how long after I
placed it before it got removed.

Jon

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Jon torance...@gmail.com wrote:
I have noticed over the past 2 weeks, I have been getting an  
unusual

amount of scrubs. It doesn't tell me which addresses are being
scrubbed, so I don't know if they are the same or different ones.  
It

does not affect the operation of Tor. Just fills up the logs.

Is there a way to have the '[scrubbed]' removed and the address put
in its place?

Thanks,

Jon


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was
there a point at which something else reverted it, or was it  
something

else entirely?

Also, which operating system are you using?

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Re: Excessive scrubs

2010-10-14 Thread Jon
Ok, I just checked the torrc file and my last entry was still there. I
updated the OS and rebooted and rechecked the file and nothing has
been removed. Will see now on the new logs if it changes or if it
still shows ' scrubbed '

Jon

On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Justin Aplin jmap...@ufl.edu wrote:
 On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:04 AM, Jon wrote:

 Yes, I did the save the file. This is a given, sorry.

 This may also be a given, but did you restart Tor after doing this? AFAIK
 (and I may be wrong), Tor does not read changes made to the torrc after
 initialization.

 I had added the ' SafeLogging 0 ' to the file as per Tor-ops
 message/reply. Twenty four hours later when I saw that it had not
 removed the ' scrubbed ' and replaced it with the node/address, I
 checked the file again and it was not in the file where I put it.

 Was Vidalia running when you edited the torrc? Vidalia (on Windows, at
 least) has a bad habit of overwriting changes to the torrc that it isn't
 aware of. Personally I think there should be a Confirm before modifying
 torrc checkbox in Vidalia.


 I just checked it now, It is still in the file, but the logs still
 show the ' scubbed' and not the address as supposedly the '
 SafeLogging 0 ' was to replace. Time wise it appears to be at a
 minimum of once an hour. Which makes me believe it is the same address
 that is being scrubbed.

 Try shutting down both Tor and Vidalia, making your edits, restarting both,
 and rechecking your torrc/logs. If you've done all this, please let us know.

 ~Justin Aplin



 OS is WIndows

 Jon


 What do you mean by 'removed itself'? Was the file never saved, or was
 there a point at which something else reverted it, or was it something
 else entirely?

 Also, which operating system are you using?


 -
 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 6:59 PM, katmagic the.magical@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:02:20 -0500
 Jon torance...@gmail.com wrote:

 I saw a message from Tor-op in reference to a similar problem and his
 solution was:

 Add the below line to your torrc and the scrubbed will be replaced by
 the domain in question.

 SafeLogging 0

 of which I tried, but it would not stay in the torrc file. It seems to
 remove it self at some point.

 As far as I can tell it never worked, but unknown how long after I
 placed it before it got removed.

 Jon

 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Jon torance...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have noticed over the past 2 weeks, I have been getting an unusual
 amount of scrubs. It doesn't tell me which addresses are being
 scrubbed, so I don't know if they are the same or different ones. It
 does not affect the operation of Tor. Just fills up the logs.

 Is there a way to have the '[scrubbed]' removed and the address put
 in its place?

 Thanks,

 Jon

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Re: Excessive scrubs

2010-10-14 Thread Jon
Justin,

Ok, I just checked the torrc file and my last entry was still there. I just
updated the OS and rebooted and rechecked the file and nothing has
been removed.

Will see now on the new logs if it changes or if it
still shows ' scrubbed ' . I will let you know within 24hrs either way.

Jon

On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Justin Aplin jmap...@ufl.edu wrote:
 On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:04 AM, Jon wrote:

 Yes, I did the save the file. This is a given, sorry.

 This may also be a given, but did you restart Tor after doing this? AFAIK
 (and I may be wrong), Tor does not read changes made to the torrc after
 initialization.

 I had added the ' SafeLogging 0 ' to the file as per Tor-ops
 message/reply. Twenty four hours later when I saw that it had not
 removed the ' scrubbed ' and replaced it with the node/address, I
 checked the file again and it was not in the file where I put it.

 Was Vidalia running when you edited the torrc? Vidalia (on Windows, at
 least) has a bad habit of overwriting changes to the torrc that it isn't
 aware of. Personally I think there should be a Confirm before modifying
 torrc checkbox in Vidalia.


 I just checked it now, It is still in the file, but the logs still
 show the ' scubbed' and not the address as supposedly the '
 SafeLogging 0 ' was to replace. Time wise it appears to be at a
 minimum of once an hour. Which makes me believe it is the same address
 that is being scrubbed.

 Try shutting down both Tor and Vidalia, making your edits, restarting both,
 and rechecking your torrc/logs. If you've done all this, please let us know.

 ~Justin Aplin



 OS is WIndows

 Jon


 What do you mean by 'removed itself'? Was the file never saved, or was
 there a point at which something else reverted it, or was it something
 else entirely?

 Also, which operating system are you using?


 -
 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 6:59 PM, katmagic the.magical@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:02:20 -0500
 Jon torance...@gmail.com wrote:

 I saw a message from Tor-op in reference to a similar problem and his
 solution was:

 Add the below line to your torrc and the scrubbed will be replaced by
 the domain in question.

 SafeLogging 0

 of which I tried, but it would not stay in the torrc file. It seems to
 remove it self at some point.

 As far as I can tell it never worked, but unknown how long after I
 placed it before it got removed.

 Jon

 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Jon torance...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have noticed over the past 2 weeks, I have been getting an unusual
 amount of scrubs. It doesn't tell me which addresses are being
 scrubbed, so I don't know if they are the same or different ones. It
 does not affect the operation of Tor. Just fills up the logs.

 Is there a way to have the '[scrubbed]' removed and the address put
 in its place?

 Thanks,

 Jon

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Re: Excessive scrubs

2010-10-14 Thread Jon
Justin,

The first of the scrubs have now showed for the past 4 hrs. Once an
hour. It is now showing the address and it is the same address. It is
a ' geoips vidalia ' address ( am not showing complete addy ).
Apparently for some reason it is not resolving or connecting to
address. I did attempt to try directly, with a couple of different
ways and was not able to access the site.

If you want the complete address, I will put in later.

Will see if it is the only one that shows up over the next 12 hrs.

Jon


On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Justin Aplin jmap...@ufl.edu wrote:
 On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:04 AM, Jon wrote:



 I had added the ' SafeLogging 0 ' to the file as per Tor-ops
 message/reply. Twenty four hours later when I saw that it had not
 removed the ' scrubbed ' and replaced it with the node/address, I
 checked the file again and it was not in the file where I put it.

 Was Vidalia running when you edited the torrc? Vidalia (on Windows, at
 least) has a bad habit of overwriting changes to the torrc that it isn't
 aware of. Personally I think there should be a Confirm before modifying
 torrc checkbox in Vidalia.


 I just checked it now, It is still in the file, but the logs still
 show the ' scubbed' and not the address as supposedly the '
 SafeLogging 0 ' was to replace. Time wise it appears to be at a
 minimum of once an hour. Which makes me believe it is the same address
 that is being scrubbed.

 Try shutting down both Tor and Vidalia, making your edits, restarting both,
 and rechecking your torrc/logs. If you've done all this, please let us know.

 ~Justin Aplin



 OS is WIndows

 Jon


 What do you mean by 'removed itself'? Was the file never saved, or was
 there a point at which something else reverted it, or was it something
 else entirely?

 Also, which operating system are you using?


 -
 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 6:59 PM, katmagic the.magical@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:02:20 -0500
 Jon torance...@gmail.com wrote:

 I saw a message from Tor-op in reference to a similar problem and his
 solution was:

 Add the below line to your torrc and the scrubbed will be replaced by
 the domain in question.

 SafeLogging 0

 of which I tried, but it would not stay in the torrc file. It seems to
 remove it self at some point.

 As far as I can tell it never worked, but unknown how long after I
 placed it before it got removed.

 Jon

 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Jon torance...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have noticed over the past 2 weeks, I have been getting an unusual
 amount of scrubs. It doesn't tell me which addresses are being
 scrubbed, so I don't know if they are the same or different ones. It
 does not affect the operation of Tor. Just fills up the logs.

 Is there a way to have the '[scrubbed]' removed and the address put
 in its place?

 Thanks,

 Jon

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Re: Excessive scrubs

2010-10-14 Thread TorOp

Upgrade Vidalia to 0.2.10 and the problem will go away.

On 10/14/2010 6:20 PM, Jon wrote:

Justin,

The first of the scrubs have now showed for the past 4 hrs. Once an
hour. It is now showing the address and it is the same address. It is
a ' geoips vidalia ' address ( am not showing complete addy ).
Apparently for some reason it is not resolving or connecting to
address. I did attempt to try directly, with a couple of different
ways and was not able to access the site.

If you want the complete address, I will put in later.

Will see if it is the only one that shows up over the next 12 hrs.

Jon


On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Justin Aplinjmap...@ufl.edu  wrote:

On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:04 AM, Jon wrote:






I had added the ' SafeLogging 0 ' to the file as per Tor-ops
message/reply. Twenty four hours later when I saw that it had not
removed the ' scrubbed ' and replaced it with the node/address, I
checked the file again and it was not in the file where I put it.


Was Vidalia running when you edited the torrc? Vidalia (on Windows, at
least) has a bad habit of overwriting changes to the torrc that it isn't
aware of. Personally I think there should be a Confirm before modifying
torrc checkbox in Vidalia.



I just checked it now, It is still in the file, but the logs still
show the ' scubbed' and not the address as supposedly the '
SafeLogging 0 ' was to replace. Time wise it appears to be at a
minimum of once an hour. Which makes me believe it is the same address
that is being scrubbed.


Try shutting down both Tor and Vidalia, making your edits, restarting both,
and rechecking your torrc/logs. If you've done all this, please let us know.

~Justin Aplin


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Excessive scrubs

2010-10-13 Thread Jon
I have noticed over the past 2 weeks, I have been getting an unusual
amount of scrubs. It doesn't tell me which addresses are being
scrubbed, so I don't know if they are the same or different ones. It
does not affect the operation of Tor. Just fills up the logs.

Is there a way to have the '[scrubbed]' removed and the address put in
its place?

Thanks,

Jon
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Re: Excessive scrubs

2010-10-13 Thread Jon
I saw a message from Tor-op in reference to a similar problem and his
solution was:

Add the below line to your torrc and the scrubbed will be replaced by
the domain in question.

SafeLogging 0

of which I tried, but it would not stay in the torrc file. It seems to
remove it self at some point.

As far as I can tell it never worked, but unknown how long after I
placed it before it got removed.

Jon

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Jon torance...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have noticed over the past 2 weeks, I have been getting an unusual
 amount of scrubs. It doesn't tell me which addresses are being
 scrubbed, so I don't know if they are the same or different ones. It
 does not affect the operation of Tor. Just fills up the logs.

 Is there a way to have the '[scrubbed]' removed and the address put in
 its place?

 Thanks,

 Jon

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Re: Excessive scrubs

2010-10-13 Thread katmagic
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:02:20 -0500
Jon torance...@gmail.com wrote:

 I saw a message from Tor-op in reference to a similar problem and his
 solution was:
 
 Add the below line to your torrc and the scrubbed will be replaced by
 the domain in question.
 
 SafeLogging 0
 
 of which I tried, but it would not stay in the torrc file. It seems to
 remove it self at some point.
 
 As far as I can tell it never worked, but unknown how long after I
 placed it before it got removed.
 
 Jon
 
 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Jon torance...@gmail.com wrote:
  I have noticed over the past 2 weeks, I have been getting an unusual
  amount of scrubs. It doesn't tell me which addresses are being
  scrubbed, so I don't know if they are the same or different ones. It
  does not affect the operation of Tor. Just fills up the logs.
 
  Is there a way to have the '[scrubbed]' removed and the address put
  in its place?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Jon
 
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