Warning TorButton 1.1.7-alfa
I upgraded to 1.1.7-alfa yesterday and saw that it is really a crap :( I used to manage my cookies, javacsript and history, MYSELF. Now trobutton wants to do all by itself, and the result is that: 1- My history isn't cleared when I close Firefox, even when this option is selected in the Firefox options. 2- Some websites that use javascript do not work with Tor. It is possible that I TRUST the CONTENT of a website, including scripts, BUT I want to use TOR to hide my IP. With torbutton this is a real hassle now. Will try to go back to an older version if it is still available online :( Torbutton is a GREAT extension but WHY hell does the author want to care of all together??? Maybe he should also include Firefox in the extension, and why not, Windows or a unix distribution??? really BAD now :
Re: Warning TorButton 1.1.7-alfa
Hi, On Sun, 23 Sep 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I upgraded to 1.1.7-alfa yesterday and saw that it is really a crap :( maybe you didn't realize that this is release is _alpha_ quality? I used to manage my cookies, javacsript and history, MYSELF. Now trobutton wants to do all by itself, and the result is that: 1- My history isn't cleared when I close Firefox, even when this option is selected in the Firefox options. 2- Some websites that use javascript do not work with Tor. It is possible that I TRUST the CONTENT of a website, including scripts, BUT I want to use TOR to hide my IP. With torbutton this is a real hassle now. Will try to go back to an older version if it is still available online :( Torbutton is a GREAT extension but WHY hell does the author want to care of all together??? Maybe he should also include Firefox in the extension, and why not, Windows or a unix distribution??? really BAD now : So all your above points are against: - websites which use javascript - firefox Are there any On-Topic things so say about Tor? -- Florian Reitmeir
Re: Warning TorButton 1.1.7-alfa
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 06:47:17 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I upgraded to 1.1.7-alfa yesterday and saw that it is really a crap :( I used to manage my cookies, javacsript and history, MYSELF. Now trobutton wants to do all by itself, and the result is that: 1- My history isn't cleared when I close Firefox, even when this option is selected in the Firefox options. 2- Some websites that use javascript do not work with Tor. It is possible that I TRUST the CONTENT of a website, including scripts, BUT I want to use TOR to hide my IP. With torbutton this is a real hassle now. That kind of thing is only one of the reasons I do not use TorButton and most likely never will. Will try to go back to an older version if it is still available online :( Torbutton is a GREAT extension but WHY hell does the author want to care of all together??? Maybe he should also include Firefox in the extension, and why not, Windows or a unix distribution??? really BAD now : (You have a bad case of linewrap there, friend. :-) You could also try FoxyProxy, which I have used in the past, or SwitchProxy, which I prefer use now. (I used FoxyProxy for a while at a time when SwitchProxy stopped working. But then FoxyProxy came out with a version that didn't work, and I was afraid I might have to go with TorButton. But SwitchProxy returned to the rescue with a newer, working version.:-) These two are both more versatile than TorButton in the sense that they allow you to configure as many different proxies as you like and to switch between them at will. Each proxy can, of course, be configured with addresses that bypass proxies entirely, too. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * ** * A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army. * *-- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * **
Re: Warning TorButton 1.1.7-alfa
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 13:10:28 +0200 Florian Reitmeir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 23 Sep 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I upgraded to 1.1.7-alfa yesterday and saw that it is really a crap :( maybe you didn't realize that this is release is _alpha_ quality? I used to manage my cookies, javacsript and history, MYSELF. Now trobutton wants to do all by itself, and the result is that: 1- My history isn't cleared when I close Firefox, even when this option is selected in the Firefox options. 2- Some websites that use javascript do not work with Tor. It is possible that I TRUST the CONTENT of a website, including scripts, BUT I want to use TOR to hide my IP. With torbutton this is a real hassle now. Will try to go back to an older version if it is still available online :( Torbutton is a GREAT extension but WHY hell does the author want to care of all together??? Maybe he should also include Firefox in the extension, and why not, Windows or a unix distribution??? really BAD now : So all your above points are against: - websites which use javascript - firefox Read it again. His complaint, basically, was that TorButton had removed his option to choose the functioning of various aspects of his browser usage. Are there any On-Topic things so say about Tor? Last time I checked (a few hours ago now), TorButton was being distributed as part of a bundle including tor and privoxy, as well, for the Defective OS. Seems to me that discussion of bugs/misfeatures/whatever about software that is distributed with tor from the tor web site is very much on topic for a tor email discussion list. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * ** * A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army. * *-- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * **
Re: Warning TorButton 1.1.7-alfa
On Sun, Sep 23, 2007 at 06:47:17AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 0.8K bytes in 9 lines about: : I used to manage my cookies, javacsript and history, MYSELF. Now trobutton wants to do all by itself, and the result is that: : 1- My history isn't cleared when I close Firefox, even when this option is selected in the Firefox options. : 2- Some websites that use javascript do not work with Tor. It is possible that I TRUST the CONTENT of a website, including scripts, BUT I want to use TOR to hide my IP. With torbutton this is a real hassle now. The options available in the new torbutton are listed here: http://www.freehaven.net/~squires/torbutton/dev/ The goal, I believe, is to try to address many of the exploits Tor users may encounter when browsing the web with Firefox. The older version is still online at https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2275/ -- Andrew
Re: Warning TorButton 1.1.7-alfa
Thus spake [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I upgraded to 1.1.7-alfa yesterday and saw that it is really a crap :( Thanks for the bug report. Even though it is a bit immaturely delivered with lots of whining instead of actual helpful content, I will do my best to fix the issues you have encountered. I used to manage my cookies, javacsript and history, MYSELF. Now trobutton wants to do all by itself, and the result is that: 1- My history isn't cleared when I close Firefox, even when this option is selected in the Firefox options. This is a bug. It will be fixed in 1.1.8. Thanks for reporting! In the meantime, the workaround is to go into the Torbutton preferences, go to the Shutdown tab, and click Allow me to manage my own Private Data Settings. 2- Some websites that use javascript do not work with Tor. It is possible that I TRUST the CONTENT of a website, including scripts, BUT I want to use TOR to hide my IP. With torbutton this is a real hassle now. Is it possible for you to give me a list of websites torbutton breaks? or describe how it breaks then? It works for me and I have recieved no reports of breakage so far from others. Will try to go back to an older version if it is still available online :( Torbutton is a GREAT extension but WHY hell does the author want to care of all together??? Maybe he should also include Firefox in the extension, and why not, Windows or a unix distribution??? really BAD now : You can hate on me all day long, but the fact of the matter is that every other Firefox extension combo (including self management up to the point of a Tor-only firewall) leaves you vulnerable to numerous attacks to reveal your IP address and other location infromation. So people can either help me fix Torbutton so it is usable for them, or they can choose to remain vulnerable. You may want to read over http://torbutton.torproject.org/dev/ to see what sort of things you are vulnerable to without torbutton. If that documentation is unclear, again, please notify me. -- Mike Perry Mad Computer Scientist fscked.org evil labs pgpos06cJRbaG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Warning TorButton 1.1.7-alfa
Thus spake Scott Bennett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 06:47:17 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I upgraded to 1.1.7-alfa yesterday and saw that it is really a crap :( I used to manage my cookies, javacsript and history, MYSELF. Now trobutton wants to do all by itself, and the result is that: 1- My history isn't cleared when I close Firefox, even when this option is selected in the Firefox options. 2- Some websites that use javascript do not work with Tor. It is possible that I TRUST the CONTENT of a website, including scripts, BUT I want to use TOR to hide my IP. With torbutton this is a real hassle now. That kind of thing is only one of the reasons I do not use TorButton and most likely never will. Can you give me a list of websites torbutton breaks for you? And how does it break them? Toggling torbutton will kill javascript in websites that are currently open, but you want that, unless you like random javascript timers going off and sending your real IP to website. Will try to go back to an older version if it is still available online :( Torbutton is a GREAT extension but WHY hell does the author want to care of all together??? Maybe he should also include Firefox in the extension, and why not, Windows or a unix distribution??? really BAD now : (You have a bad case of linewrap there, friend. :-) You could also try FoxyProxy, which I have used in the past, or SwitchProxy, which I prefer use now. (I used FoxyProxy for a while at a time when SwitchProxy stopped working. But then FoxyProxy came out with a version that didn't work, and I was afraid I might have to go with TorButton. But SwitchProxy returned to the rescue with a newer, working version.:-) These two are both more versatile than TorButton in the sense that they allow you to configure as many different proxies as you like and to switch between them at will. Each proxy can, of course, be configured with addresses that bypass proxies entirely, too. SwitchProxy should be usable with Torbutton. If you configure your Tor proxy settings as one of the proxies, Torbutton should detect when it is enabled and turn on its security features for you without your needing to actually hit the torbutton itself. If it does not, it is a bug. Please report it. Again, Torbutton protects against numerous web exploits that can reveal your IP address when you use vanilla proxy changers. Please read over http://torbutton.torproject.org/dev/ before you go recommending insecure solutions to people, or simply hate on Torbutton without providing any bug reports to the maintainer as to why. -- Mike Perry Mad Computer Scientist fscked.org evil labs pgpuXyEwrNzwc.pgp Description: PGP signature
