RE: APPEND hint (Was: Which is faster??)

2001-03-25 Thread Steve Adams

Hi Yong,

I don't think that's right. Try it on a table with no indexes, and dump
the redo and undo blocks afterwards. My tests show that there is no row
level redo (layer 11) except against the data dictionary tables for
space management, regardless of whether the table or tablespace is
defined as NOLOGGING. The undo is correspondingly trivial. However, if
there are indexes then you get lots of index redo (layer 10) and
corresponding undo.

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Hi, Connor,

The append hint to insert does not disable generating rollback info. It
does
stop redo generation for a nologging table.

Yong Huang
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you wrote:

If you're on 8.0 or higher, try

insert /*+ APPEND */
into table
select * from other_table;

where "table" is defined as nologging.  Then you won't
hit either redo logs or rollback segments..Its the
equivalent of a sqlldr direct load

hth
connor

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Best Practice ?

2001-03-25 Thread VIVEK_SHARMA


For Analyze of Tables on a Oracle 817 Database on Cluster with OPS ?

Should the Tables be Analyzed OR Not ?

This is a Application with More OLTP than Batch ( Banking Product )


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Re: Deleting alert_sid.log while db is running?

2001-03-25 Thread Charlie Mengler

Even if you "rm" the file, it will still be consuming disk space
until the file is closed (when the DB comes down). The down
side is that you will no longer be able to see any new entries.

I'm not sure what the results will be if you
cp /dev/null alert_SID.log

HTH  HAND!
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Guang Mei wrote:

 Hi:

 I have a oracle db (oracle 8.0.5 on Sun Unix) whose alert_sid.log size is
 too large. I want to delete it.

 Can I just simply do  "rm  alert_sid.log" without shuting down the db,
 assuming there is no "writting" going on to the file at that moment?  I
 usually do shutdown, delete alert log file, and then startup db again. But
 this is a 24*7 db and can not be shutdown.

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RE: SQL Loader Help in 8.1.6

2001-03-25 Thread Wendy Y
 Thanks, I got that work out now.
It's an option (direct=true) in the control file in 8.1.6 was missing. But I still don't understand that 8.0.5 will be able to compile without this option. I'm running 8.0.5 on my local machine, but 8.1.6 is remote on a UNIX box. Will these different environment matters?
Wendy
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Is your mainframe using EBCDIC? If so there is a translation table that explains what the "}" translates into. The sign of the field is trailing (E.I.. at the end of the field for non-Cobolers)

These indicate that the sign of the number is negative.
}=0
R=9
Q=8
P=7
O=6
N=5
M=4
L=-
K=-
J=1

These are for positive numbers:
{=0
A=1
B=2
C=3
D=4
E=5
F=6
G=7
H=8
I=9

The example you mentioned (00}) is really all zeroes. A value of 1023A really equals 10231.An example of a negative number would be 112233R which equals -1122339. The Utilities manual might have a sample of how to convert external numbers with trailing signs. You could also code a function to do translation and return the resulting number. Then you can use it in the SqlLdr control file.

Tony Aponte

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Dear Experts: 
This does not make any sense to me, can you help me out? 

I have a control file to interpret the mainframe data and then write to my table in Oracle Database.
The mainframe data looks like "0}", The table is designed as Number(10,2), The control file use zoned(10,2).
All these combination will work fine on Oracle 7.3/8.0.5, but will fail on 8.1.6. (the message said: rejected on XXX field)
If I modify table as Varchar2(10), it will work, but the data format is not the way I want. the format should be "0.00" when it's 0, instead of "0". Also "+" or "-" should be able to display. How can I make this work in 8.1.6?
Here are part of the control file:
LOAD DATAREPLACEINTO TABLE C_FINANCIAL (CONSOLI_ID POSITION(001:003) CHAR, 
 TAX_CREDIT_AMT POSITION(177:186) zoned(10, 2), QTY_ORIGINAL POSITION(187:196) zoned(10),... )

Thanks
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Re: Ora Apps Loggin In Issue

2001-03-25 Thread Gregory Conron

On Sun, 25 Mar 2001, Olson, David wrote:
 Any clues as to what might be causing this.  Everything worked just fine
 before the SP1 upgrade.

You just answered your own question. - Redmondware.
Do you have a pressing need to have the latest MS aii browser? If not, go
back to the earlier, working version.

Cheers,
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RE: Transporting Database

2001-03-25 Thread Arvind Aggarwal

If its giving the message " Insufficient Priviledges" 

 then try copying the init.ora file again from the
source to the server where r u wan't to create a
database. If u wan't to edit the init.ora file to
change some parameters, use edit,  never use notepad
to edit the init.ora file. Opening init.ora file in
notepad might corrupt the init.ora. 

Arvind

--- "Jefferson, Dean" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 I've done this many times on NT, by shuting down the
 source database,
 copying ALL database files to the new server,
 creating an instance with the
 same SID on the target server and just openning it
 up and running it.
 
 Here is the statement I use to create the instance.
 Note that I set the
 internal password to "manager", I think the default
 is "oracle":
 
 oradim -new -sid TEST -intpwd manager -startmode
 auto -pfile
 E:\Oradata\TESTdb\pfiles\initTEST.ora
 
 The trick is that the directory structure where any
 and all database files
 are stored must be identical on the source and
 target servers. Otherwise you
 must play around with telling Oracle that the
 datafile that used to be here
 is now there...
 
 HTH,
 
 Dean Jefferson
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  Subject: Transporting Database
  
  
  Dear DBAs,
  
  I have 2 NT servers, Oracle8 (8.0.5) Server has
 been 
  installed on each of
  them. One server has a database and no database on
 another. 
  Is it possible
  to move or duplicate a database from one servwer
 to another? 
  Based on my
  conceptual understanding, this will work, but I it
 failed 
  when I tried.
  Therefore, I need your confirmation.
  
  What I have tried is:
  1. Copy physical control files and initialization
 parameter file.
  2. Run ORADIM and all services are started.
  Problem: I can not connect internal. Actually, I
 want to try 
  to create an
  instance, startup nomount, and use the init
 file/control 
  file. But I can not
  go further because I can not login to the instance
 as internal or sys.
  
  Sorry, crossposting.
  Thnx lots
  Yuzzie N.
  
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RE: Parallel Query Option

2001-03-25 Thread Bala, Prakash

Rodney, this will help you get started. I tried it and it works great!

http://www.oracle.com/oramag/code/tips2000/index.html?101600.html

Prakash


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Listers,
I'm looking for documentation on the PQO.  I have scanned through my Oracle
Press books and some of the Online Documentation at MetaLink.  What they
offer is a piece here and a piece there interspersed in Parallel Server
topics.  I am NOT running OPS, but would like to implement PQ on a couple of
my largest tables.  Do any of you know of a concise altogether reference on
the PQO that I can get or download?

TIA

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RE: Single Code Table or Separate Code tables dilemma

2001-03-25 Thread Arn Klammer



comp.databases.oracle.server (Was: Re: DBMS_REPAIR package usage)

2001-03-25 Thread yong huang

Hi, Murali,

You don't subscribe to a newsgroup such as comp.databases.oracle.server as you
do to a mailing list. If your company has a news (NNTP) server, configure your
browser to user it and type the URL news:comp.databases.oracle.server to
read/post messages. Most companies use "news" or "snews" as the news server
name. Try:

telnet news 119
help
quit

to find out. Or ask your Help Desk.

If your company does not have a news server, read Question 2 at
http://groups.google.com/googlegroups/help.html. I use news.interbulletin.com
currently. If you insist on using a public news server instead of a Web
gateway, www.jammed.com/~newzbot/sorted-speed.html does a fairly good job on
listing public servers, which come and go at their will. To use one of them,
type the URL news://[the IP of the server]/comp.databases.oracle.server in your
browser. News readers don't use these URLs.

Yong Huang
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you wrote:

How does one subscribe to this ?

Murali Vallath

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Hi, Winnie,

How did you find the file# to be 9 (unless you messed with your original
error
message)?

I suggest you post your message to news:comp.databases.oracle.server (or
http://news.interbulletin.com/cgi-bin/ibwrn/post/comp.databases.oracle.server
if your company doesn't have a news server). Hopefully it will attract...

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