Re: Exporting and Importing table statistics

2001-05-25 Thread Jared Still


It sounds like you want to ensure that an external database has
the same execution plan for a query as the one you are developing
and/or testing on.

There's a little more to it than that.  You must make sure you have
the proper init.ora params set, create outlines, and export the
outlines for use in another database.

Take a look at Chapter 10 'Using Plan Stability' in the 'Designing 
and Tuning for Performance' manual.

Jared


On Thursday 24 May 2001 15:18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,
 According to the 8i utilities manual I should be able to export a tables'
 statistics
 from one database, then import those statistics into another database.
 I have tried various combinations of export and import scripts but nothing
 seems to
 work. My table has none of the restrictions described in the utilities
 manual that
 would prevent the statistics from being exported and then imported.
 Can this export/import of statistics be done at a single table level or
 does it have
 to be a full database export? If not at the table level can it be done at
 the schema
 level?

 Thanks everyone,
 Gary Bonner
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: How to send email from pl/sql in 806?

2001-05-25 Thread Saurabh Sharma

HI,
 i tried creating this procedure. but it results into compilation errors.
says..
utl_tcp.connection must be declared, and so does for
utl_tcp.get_line and
utl_tcp.write_line

how do we fefine them. where is this package utl_tcp

pls explore.

thanks.
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 try this procedure it works  just replace the IP address in the line
 c := utl_tcp.open_connection('192.168.1.1', 25);
 with the IP address of u'r mail server

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rem ---
 rem Filename:   smtp.sql
 rem Purpose:Send e-mail messages from PL/SQL
 rem Notes:  From Oracle8i release 8.1.6 one can send e-mail messages
 rem   directly from PL/SQL using either the UTL_TCP or UTL_SMTP
 rem   packages. No pipes or external procedures required.
 rem Date:   27-Mar-2000
 rem Author: Frank Naude ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

rem ---

 CREATE OR REPLACE PROCEDURE SEND_MAIL (
   msg_fromvarchar2 := 'oracle',
   msg_to  varchar2,
   msg_subject varchar2 := 'E-Mail message from your database',
   msg_textvarchar2 := '' )
 IS
   c  utl_tcp.connection;
   rc integer;
 BEGIN
   c := utl_tcp.open_connection('192.168.1.1', 25);   -- open the SMTP
 port 25 on local machine
   dbms_output.put_line(utl_tcp.get_line(c, TRUE));
   rc := utl_tcp.write_line(c, 'HELO 192.168.1.1');
   dbms_output.put_line(utl_tcp.get_line(c, TRUE));
   rc := utl_tcp.write_line(c, 'MAIL FROM: '||msg_from);
   dbms_output.put_line(utl_tcp.get_line(c, TRUE));
   rc := utl_tcp.write_line(c, 'RCPT TO: '||msg_to);
   dbms_output.put_line(utl_tcp.get_line(c, TRUE));
   rc := utl_tcp.write_line(c, 'DATA'); -- Start message
 body
   dbms_output.put_line(utl_tcp.get_line(c, TRUE));
   rc := utl_tcp.write_line(c, 'Subject: '||msg_subject);
   rc := utl_tcp.write_line(c, '');
   rc := utl_tcp.write_line(c, msg_text);
   rc := utl_tcp.write_line(c, '.');-- End of message
 body
   dbms_output.put_line(utl_tcp.get_line(c, TRUE));
   rc := utl_tcp.write_line(c, 'QUIT');
   dbms_output.put_line(utl_tcp.get_line(c, TRUE));
   utl_tcp.close_connection(c); -- Close the
 connection
 EXCEPTION
   when others then
raise_application_error(-2,'Unable to send e-mail message from
 pl/sql');
 END;
 /
 show errors

 --  Examples:
 set serveroutput on

 exec send_mail(msg_to  ='Omar Khalid/IT/LotusCert/Pk');
 exec send_mail(msg_to  ='[EMAIL PROTECTED]');

 exec send_mail(msg_to  ='[EMAIL PROTECTED]',
 msg_text='Look Ma I can send mail from plsql');
















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 Hi,

 I am aware that 817 supports UTL_SMTP for this same
 functionality.  But how can one send email from pl/sql
 in 806?


 thanx

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QUERRY DOUBT..

2001-05-25 Thread Saurabh Sharma



hi all,

i've a querry that is to find out 
what all columns have constraints applied on them. giving the 
table_name,column_name,constraint name and constraint type.

the querry goes like..

select 
a.table_name,b.constraint_name,b.constraint_type,c.column_namefrom 
user_tables a,user_constraints b,user_cons_columns cwhere 
a.table_name=b.table_name 
andb.constraint_name=c.constraint_name/

now i need to make a report which 
gives out in the same result all the tables' columns which have constraints and 
which have not, both.
leaving the constraint_type and 
constraint name columns null in the same querry.
is it possible, or do we have other 
alternative to do that.

pls suggest.
thanks

saurabh




Re: Odd core dump - possibly listener related

2001-05-25 Thread rupali belsare

--core dump ended up in $ORACLE_HOME/dbs

i think there is no space in the destination where u r storing the dumps... just
one point to have a look atmay or may not be correct

RB

Deshpande, Kirti wrote:

 Hi Lisa,
 Yes, we have seen this occasional core dump in the ?/dbs dir. Tried to chase
 it down, gave up on OWS and TAR got closed. The last time it happened was a
 month or so ago on HP-UX 11.0 and 8.1.6.2.  As you said, there are many
 other things to worry about.
  If your 'mini-me' chases this down, I would like to know. BTW... How does
 he like Oracle's new music selection?

  Congratulations for getting another job !!
  Going further South or back to North?

  Regards,

 - Kirti Deshpande
   Verizon Information Services
http://www.superpages.com

  -Original Message-
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  Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 10:57 AM
  To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  Subject:  Odd core dump - possibly listener related
 
  Hello all,
 
  My mini-me (aka Junior DBA) noticed a core dump this morning.  Good,
  attention to detail.  However, there's no unusual errors in the alert log
  for either databases on this host and there's no errors in the listener
  log at all.  The core dump says something about pseudo cursor and
  references a port that isn't dedicated to the listener.
 
  Here's my take on it:  The database is fine.  The listener is fine.  The
  app is fine.  With nothing in the logs I have no idea where to look.  I
  don't even know how this core dump ended up in $ORACLE_HOME/dbs (the
  default), my core_dump_dest is set to a different directory.  Searching on
  metalink returns nothing.
 
  Mini-me (mini?  6'4) wants to chase this down.  I think it works, don't
  fix it.  The occasional core dump is normal and there are a ton of other
  things to attend to.  Does anyone disagree?
 
  So my question is, has anyone seen this before?  we are hp/ux 11.0,
  8.1.6.2
 
  Thanks everyone, and au revoir.  I start a new job on Tuesday.
 
  Lisa Rutland Koivu
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  urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office /
 
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RE: QUERRY DOUBT..

2001-05-25 Thread Seley, Linda



Try 
this:

select 
d.owner, d.table_name,b.constraint_name,b.constraint_type,d.column_namefrom 
all_tables a,all_constraints b,all_cons_columns c, all_tab_columns dwhere 
d.owner = c.owner (+)and d.table_name = c.table_name (+)and 
d.column_name = c.column_name (+)and c.table_name = a.table_name (+)and 
c.table_name = b.table_name (+)and c.constraint_name = 
b.constraint_name(+)and c.owner = a.owner (+)and c.owner = b.owner 
(+)order by d.owner, d.table_name, d.column_id;

HTH

Linda

  -Original Message-From: Saurabh Sharma 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 12:46 
  AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  QUERRY DOUBT..
  hi all,
  
  i've a querry that is to find out 
  what all columns have constraints applied on them. giving the 
  table_name,column_name,constraint name and constraint type.
  
  the querry goes 
  like..
  
  select 
  a.table_name,b.constraint_name,b.constraint_type,c.column_namefrom 
  user_tables a,user_constraints b,user_cons_columns cwhere 
  a.table_name=b.table_name 
  andb.constraint_name=c.constraint_name/
  
  now i need to make a report which 
  gives out in the same result all the tables' columns which have constraints 
  and which have not, both.
  leaving the constraint_type and 
  constraint name columns null in the same querry.
  is it possible, or do we have 
  other alternative to do that.
  
  pls suggest.
  thanks
  
  saurabh
  
  


Re: Exporting and Importing table statistics

2001-05-25 Thread Saurabh Sharma

i feel this is at the full database export level.
once u export ur database, u can import it as it is into another database
and it'll create allthe required definitions for u.
the statistics are exported with the tablespace and table definitions.

hope i'm sure. if not pls correct.

saurabh
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 Hi all,
 According to the 8i utilities manual I should be able to export a tables'
 statistics
 from one database, then import those statistics into another database.
 I have tried various combinations of export and import scripts but nothing
 seems to
 work. My table has none of the restrictions described in the utilities
 manual that
 would prevent the statistics from being exported and then imported.
 Can this export/import of statistics be done at a single table level or
 does it have
 to be a full database export? If not at the table level can it be done at
 the schema
 level?

 Thanks everyone,
 Gary Bonner
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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ULIMIT Problem continues: Please Help

2001-05-25 Thread Viraj Luthra

Hello every one,

I have got this major problem on my hands. I am trying to install Oracle 8.05.0 on SCO 
Unixware 7.1.0. 

Now, I am stuck in trying to install Oracle,  the error says:-

ULIMIT is not as high as 2113674. In order to install Oracle, my ULIMIT needs to be 
2113674.

The problem is that I have set the ULIMIT=500, in the /etc/default/login file. 
Further when I telnet from an outside system and then do ulimit, it says I have, 
-3388608, but when I am on the system itself, then I get the value as 2097152.

Further, when I try to install from the outside system(by outside system I mean a unix 
machine in out network), I get the File Size Exceeded message and my termnial 
freezes. 

Please help with the above problem, as to how I can increase my ulimit, and move ahead 
with the installation.

Thanks and Regards,

Raja


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RE: [OT] Jobs in UK

2001-05-25 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe

Diana,

That sounds way too high for Scotland, although the odd contract like that
does appear from time to time. There was a couple of contracts like that
where I live (Newcastle Upon Tyne,about 110 miles south of Edinburgh) but
they were for experienced Oracle Apps DBAs. To make that sort of cash, I
think you may have to be contracting in London.

I think the norm regionally is anywhere between 45-75 an hour, but I would
like to hear from any other UK based people if I've got that wrong.

I am unsure as to how easy it is for foreign nationals to get employment
over here although there do seem to be a fair few. I certainly don't think
we are as strict as the U.S for example. I quite fancied a stint over there
(or Canada - Vancouver to be precise) but keep getting put off by the Green
Card thing and the fact that I am not University educated. Worked my way up
from junior programmer in Cobol etc etc etc

Anyway, there are no spare jobs in the UK AT ALL.:-)

Lee (Oracle DBA in the UK who likes the apparent shortage as I am always
getting calls to improve my situation !!).



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My husband is Scottish, and he heard from a Scottish pal of his that top
Oracle consultants can earn up to ?1000 a day in Edinburgh!  Made me want
to up and go, I'll tell you...then again, having a husband with a British
passport means I can work without too many problems.

Regards,

Diana Duncan
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One Copley Parkway, Ste 540
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Hi fellows,

Sorry for the offtopic  but I had been in UK last week and my friends from
there told me that there is a shortage of IT professionals and , that if
you really got the skills , is very easy to migrate and find a job. But
none of my friends are IT professionals and I don´t know how much they know
from this market.

So I wish to know , if possible , from the IT professionals working in UK
if it is really easy to find a job and migrate ? What are the governamental
restrictions ? How much we can earn in a year of work ? Where I can find
more information about immigration to UK ?

TIA,
Antonio Belloni

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Re: How to send email from pl/sql in 806?

2001-05-25 Thread Paul Drake

Saurabh Sharma wrote:
 
 HI,
  i tried creating this procedure. but it results into compilation errors.
 says..
 utl_tcp.connection must be declared, and so does for
 utl_tcp.get_line and
 utl_tcp.write_line
 
 how do we fefine them. where is this package utl_tcp
 
 pls explore.
 
 thanks.

Simple.
Its in %ORACLE_BASE%\Ora81\rdbms\admin\  
 where you're find utltcp.sql and utlsmtp.sql, and lots of other
goodies.
It would not be included with an Oracle 8.0.x distribution.
8.1.6 goes off support 31-OCT-2001 - go straight to 8.1.7.1.x.

Paul


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  try this procedure it works  just replace the IP address in the line
  c := utl_tcp.open_connection('192.168.1.1', 25);
  with the IP address of u'r mail server
 
  regards
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RE: SQL PROBLEM

2001-05-25 Thread Niyi Olajide
Title: MS access



Can you try 
this:

select count (1) from 
(
select1 from table_ a where ord_id 
=17
union 

select 1 from table_b where ord_id = 
17)
/


Hi,

Favour 
me insuggest ahint in writing a sql forfollowing 
scenaio:

Table 
A has 2 columns ord_id and line_id

example rows are:

ord_id 
line_id
17 
null
null42

TableB has columns ord_id and 
line_id

ord_id 
line_id
17 
42
17 
43
1744

I have 
to write a sql to count(*) from table A where ord_id=17 ..
as u 
see from table B line 42 is row of ord_id=17 ..so i want
count(*) should show =2 from tabel A 

but if 
i do count(*) from table A where ord_id=17..it shows 1..
i need 
to put another condition which will check line id with 
TABLE 
B and if it is for this particular order ...add that also 
in
count(*).
I know 
scenario is little fuzzy sorry for it..but if u got my point 

kindly 
respond.

Thanks
Harvinder


RE: [OT] Jobs in UK

2001-05-25 Thread Hallas, John

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I suppose it depends what top means and how many days you want to work. I am
sure it is possible to earn £1000/day as an Oracle Consultant but that will
be for only 1 or 2 days work at a site and there are not many sites prepared
to offer that sort of rate. Also Edingburgh or Scotland in general does not
pay as much for Oracle DBA skills as you can earn in London (although it is
a lot nicer place in my opinion).

Currently there is a bit of a mini recession in the contracting market and
jobs are at  a premium (I know because I am looking at the moment). .
General rates for a good (3-5 years experience 7-8I etc) are between £45-55
/ hour with maybe £60 in London. (pounds not dollars, in case the symbol
does not translate in the mail system).

John











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Subject:Re: [OT] Jobs in UK


My husband is Scottish, and he heard from a Scottish pal of
his that top
Oracle consultants can earn up to ?1000 a day in Edinburgh!
Made me want
to up and go, I'll tell you...then again, having a husband
with a British
passport means I can work without too many problems.

Regards,

Diana Duncan
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Hi fellows,

Sorry for the offtopic  but I had been in UK last week and
my friends from
there told me that there is a shortage of IT professionals
and , that if
you really got the skills , is very easy to migrate and find
a job. But
none of my friends are IT professionals and I don´t know how
much they know
from this market.

So I wish to know , if possible , from the IT professionals
working in UK
if it is really easy to find a job and migrate ? What are
the governamental
restrictions ? How much we can earn in a year of work ?
Where I can find
more information about immigration to UK ?

TIA,
Antonio Belloni

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RE: How to send email from pl/sql in 806?

2001-05-25 Thread Venkata Ramana Kanchinadam

hi sharma
The builtin packages UTL_SMTP and UTL_TCP are available with oracle 8.1.5
onwards , thats the reason you were getting compilation errors.
Ramana


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 HI,
  i tried creating this procedure. but it results into compilation errors.
 says..
 utl_tcp.connection must be declared, and so does for
 utl_tcp.get_line and
 utl_tcp.write_line
 
 how do we fefine them. where is this package utl_tcp
 
 pls explore.
 
 thanks.
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  try this procedure it works  just replace the IP address in the line
  c := utl_tcp.open_connection('192.168.1.1', 25);
  with the IP address of u'r mail server
 
  regards
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 rem
 ---
  rem Filename:   smtp.sql
  rem Purpose:Send e-mail messages from PL/SQL
  rem Notes:  From Oracle8i release 8.1.6 one can send e-mail messages
  rem   directly from PL/SQL using either the UTL_TCP or UTL_SMTP
  rem   packages. No pipes or external procedures required.
  rem Date:   27-Mar-2000
  rem Author: Frank Naude ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 
 rem
 ---
 
  CREATE OR REPLACE PROCEDURE SEND_MAIL (
msg_fromvarchar2 := 'oracle',
msg_to  varchar2,
msg_subject varchar2 := 'E-Mail message from your database',
msg_textvarchar2 := '' )
  IS
c  utl_tcp.connection;
rc integer;
  BEGIN
c := utl_tcp.open_connection('192.168.1.1', 25);   -- open the
 SMTP
  port 25 on local machine
dbms_output.put_line(utl_tcp.get_line(c, TRUE));
rc := utl_tcp.write_line(c, 'HELO 192.168.1.1');
dbms_output.put_line(utl_tcp.get_line(c, TRUE));
rc := utl_tcp.write_line(c, 'MAIL FROM: '||msg_from);
dbms_output.put_line(utl_tcp.get_line(c, TRUE));
rc := utl_tcp.write_line(c, 'RCPT TO: '||msg_to);
dbms_output.put_line(utl_tcp.get_line(c, TRUE));
rc := utl_tcp.write_line(c, 'DATA'); -- Start message
  body
dbms_output.put_line(utl_tcp.get_line(c, TRUE));
rc := utl_tcp.write_line(c, 'Subject: '||msg_subject);
rc := utl_tcp.write_line(c, '');
rc := utl_tcp.write_line(c, msg_text);
rc := utl_tcp.write_line(c, '.');-- End of message
  body
dbms_output.put_line(utl_tcp.get_line(c, TRUE));
rc := utl_tcp.write_line(c, 'QUIT');
dbms_output.put_line(utl_tcp.get_line(c, TRUE));
utl_tcp.close_connection(c); -- Close the
  connection
  EXCEPTION
when others then
 raise_application_error(-2,'Unable to send e-mail message
 from
  pl/sql');
  END;
  /
  show errors
 
  --  Examples:
  set serveroutput on
 
  exec send_mail(msg_to  ='Omar Khalid/IT/LotusCert/Pk');
  exec send_mail(msg_to  ='[EMAIL PROTECTED]');
 
  exec send_mail(msg_to  ='[EMAIL PROTECTED]',
  msg_text='Look Ma I can send mail from plsql');
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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  11:35 AM
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  Hi,
 
  I am aware that 817 supports UTL_SMTP for this same
  functionality.  But how can one send email from pl/sql
  in 806?
 
 
  thanx
 
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RE: [OT] Jobs in UK

2001-05-25 Thread Jenner Mike

Alex.
There have been more taxes and restrictions applied to UK IT
contractors in the last year or so prompting more people than usual to move
outside the UK for work. This has prompted the UK to grant more visas to non
British IT workers.
I don't know about the qualifications or details for gaining UK
working visa status, try searching the web for UK passport agency ,visa
etc..

I've worked in the US and UK and, as always, job availability dramatically
varies on actual location. However there is still a demand for quality IT
experience, including Oracle DBAs. 

The main (only in my opinion) site is www.jobserve.com

Have fun.

- Mike.

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Hi fellows,

Sorry for the offtopic  but I had been in UK last week and my friends from
there told me that there is a shortage of IT professionals and , that if
you really got the skills , is very easy to migrate and find a job. But
none of my friends are IT professionals and I don´t know how much they know
from this market.

So I wish to know , if possible , from the IT professionals working in UK
if it is really easy to find a job and migrate ? What are the governamental
restrictions ? How much we can earn in a year of work ? Where I can find
more information about immigration to UK ?

TIA,
Antonio Belloni

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RE: SQL PROBLEM

2001-05-25 Thread Mohan, Karthik (GEP)
Title: MS access



Ido not seem to have exactlyunderstood 
u r problem..but try this anyway

select count(*) from 
awhere l_id in 
(selectb.bl_idfroma,bwherea.o_id = 
17anda.o_id = b.bo_id )OR(a.o_id = 17)

 
COUNT(*)-- 
2

1 row selected.

The 
table data is as listed below 

SQL select * from a;

 
O_ID L_ID -- 
-- 17NULLNULL 
42

2 rows selected.

SQL select * from b;

 
BO_ID BL_ID-- 
-- 
17 
42 
17 
43 
17 44

3 rows selected.



Regards,
Karthik 
Mohan
TCS Consultant at GEP 
(HK)
DialComm 3310962
ISD : 852-26290962


  -Original Message-From: Niyi Olajide 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 4:36 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  SQL PROBLEM
  Can you try 
  this:
  
  select count (1) from 
  (
  select1 from table_ a where ord_id 
  =17
  union 
  
  select 1 from table_b where ord_id = 
  17)
  /
  
  
  Hi,
  
  Favour me insuggest ahint in writing a 
  sql forfollowing scenaio:
  
  Table A has 2 columns ord_id and 
  line_id
  
  example rows are:
  
  ord_id 
  line_id
  17 
  null
  null42
  
  TableB has columns ord_id and 
  line_id
  
  ord_id 
  line_id
  17 
  42
  17 
  43
  1744
  
  I 
  have to write a sql to count(*) from table A where ord_id=17 
  ..
  as u 
  see from table B line 42 is row of ord_id=17 ..so i want
  count(*) should show =2 from tabel A 
  
  but 
  if i do count(*) from table A where ord_id=17..it shows 
1..
  i 
  need to put another condition which will check line id with 
  
  TABLE B and if it is for this particular order 
  ...add that also in
  count(*).
  I 
  know scenario is little fuzzy sorry for it..but if u got my point 
  
  kindly respond.
  
  Thanks
  Harvinder


RE: Steve Adam's Removal

2001-05-25 Thread Rajesh Dayal

Dear Henry,

Please reconsider this issue !
I am sure there are many-many more who want to request not
to remove Steve and would support my mail, but are afraid 
that other's mail-box would fill up by these request only..
To be frank  honest, he is the only list member who 
has a folder in my outlook( I am not offending any-body 
else)   
Seriously ... please dont' do this

Best Regards,
Rajesh 

-Original Message-
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 9:26 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


i hope this thread is still alive and my reply makes it to the
list...

by removing Steve from the list , we all will miss the insight into
oracle
internals, 
which he provided , thru his answers and the links (plugs ? ) to his
website.. 

many threads would end when Steve provides his explanation/answer, this
show

the respect posters have for his knowledge or Oracle. 

please reconsider

Regards
Rahul


 --
 From: Suhen Pather[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 6:36 AM
 To:   LazyDBA.com Discussion
 Subject:  RE: Steve Adam's Removal
 
 Henry,  List
 
 I second you on this one.
 I respect Henry being the list owner, having authority to do as he
 pleases.
 
 ORACLE -L is possibly the best Oracle list out there,and has brought
so
 many
 
 Oracle professionals together, but lets not lose our experts. 
  
 Please reconsider the removal of Steve Adams from the list.
 
 He takes up lots of his time to answer performance related questions
 posted by list members with precise actions to be taken and great
 explanations.
 
 He is an invaluable member to the Oracle world and his expertise,
 generosity
 will
 surely be missed if he removed.
 
 Kind Regards and pls reconsider
 Suhen
 
 
 
 
 List,
 
 While I respect Henry's authority as list owner to remove people from
the
 list, and the need to do so when people are breaking the rules, I
would
 like
 to protest the removal of Steve Adams.  He is one of the top experts
in
 Oracle internals in the world, and he was gracious enough to take time
to
 answer people's questions on the list.
 
 I am not sure what he ever did that was thought to be spamming, except
 answer people's questions.  He has a link to his website in his
signature,
 and often his answers were links to a place on his site where he had
 already
 answered that question.  I don't see what's wrong with that, none of
it
 seems to violate the rules of the list.
 
 If it was a matter of one or two people complaining about Steve's
posts,
 perhaps the list should have been asked.  I can only hope that the
 overwhelming majority understood Steve's method of answering questions
and
 were not annoyed with it.
 
 The show now knows a lot less about Oracle Internal Services.
 
 Reed Sutton
 
   
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Henry O'Keeffe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 8:58 AM
 To: LazyDBA.com Discussion
 Subject: Re: Spamming the list
 
 
 I'm afraid, you'll actually have to leave the list Steve. Picking
lines
 from
 private emails sent between us, and presenting them out of context
isn't
 something that most people would have expected from you. I'm sorry
that
 it's
 had to come to this.
 
 Indeed, the show will go on.
 
 Goodbye.
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SQL PROBLEM for duplicate rows..

2001-05-25 Thread N. SARAVANA KUMAR

Hi 

Table A got some duplicated rows.. The requirement is to delete the
duplicate records by maintaing one copy..
Is it manageable thru single query? or have to go for PL/SQL procedure?

Pl. send me ur valuable inputs.

Saravanakumar


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RE: Steve Adam's Removal

2001-05-25 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe

Erm... am I missing something but wasn't the original mail removing Steve
Adams from the lazydba discussion list and not this one ??

Cheers

Lee


-Original Message-
Sent: 25 May 2001 10:56
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Dear Henry,

Please reconsider this issue !
I am sure there are many-many more who want to request not
to remove Steve and would support my mail, but are afraid 
that other's mail-box would fill up by these request only..
To be frank  honest, he is the only list member who 
has a folder in my outlook( I am not offending any-body 
else)   
Seriously ... please dont' do this

Best Regards,
Rajesh 

-Original Message-
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 9:26 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


i hope this thread is still alive and my reply makes it to the
list...

by removing Steve from the list , we all will miss the insight into
oracle
internals, 
which he provided , thru his answers and the links (plugs ? ) to his
website.. 

many threads would end when Steve provides his explanation/answer, this
show

the respect posters have for his knowledge or Oracle. 

please reconsider

Regards
Rahul


 --
 From: Suhen Pather[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 6:36 AM
 To:   LazyDBA.com Discussion
 Subject:  RE: Steve Adam's Removal
 
 Henry,  List
 
 I second you on this one.
 I respect Henry being the list owner, having authority to do as he
 pleases.
 
 ORACLE -L is possibly the best Oracle list out there,and has brought
so
 many
 
 Oracle professionals together, but lets not lose our experts. 
  
 Please reconsider the removal of Steve Adams from the list.
 
 He takes up lots of his time to answer performance related questions
 posted by list members with precise actions to be taken and great
 explanations.
 
 He is an invaluable member to the Oracle world and his expertise,
 generosity
 will
 surely be missed if he removed.
 
 Kind Regards and pls reconsider
 Suhen
 
 
 
 
 List,
 
 While I respect Henry's authority as list owner to remove people from
the
 list, and the need to do so when people are breaking the rules, I
would
 like
 to protest the removal of Steve Adams.  He is one of the top experts
in
 Oracle internals in the world, and he was gracious enough to take time
to
 answer people's questions on the list.
 
 I am not sure what he ever did that was thought to be spamming, except
 answer people's questions.  He has a link to his website in his
signature,
 and often his answers were links to a place on his site where he had
 already
 answered that question.  I don't see what's wrong with that, none of
it
 seems to violate the rules of the list.
 
 If it was a matter of one or two people complaining about Steve's
posts,
 perhaps the list should have been asked.  I can only hope that the
 overwhelming majority understood Steve's method of answering questions
and
 were not annoyed with it.
 
 The show now knows a lot less about Oracle Internal Services.
 
 Reed Sutton
 
   
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Henry O'Keeffe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 8:58 AM
 To: LazyDBA.com Discussion
 Subject: Re: Spamming the list
 
 
 I'm afraid, you'll actually have to leave the list Steve. Picking
lines
 from
 private emails sent between us, and presenting them out of context
isn't
 something that most people would have expected from you. I'm sorry
that
 it's
 had to come to this.
 
 Indeed, the show will go on.
 
 Goodbye.
 Henry.
 
 
 
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Re: SQL PROBLEM for duplicate rows..

2001-05-25 Thread Burçin Üstün Kýlýç

I think this query eliminates the duplicated rows:

delete from table_name where rowid not in (select maxrowid from (select
column1,column2, max(rowid) maxrowid  from den group by column1,column2));

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 Hi

 Table A got some duplicated rows.. The requirement is to delete the
 duplicate records by maintaing one copy..
 Is it manageable thru single query? or have to go for PL/SQL procedure?

 Pl. send me ur valuable inputs.

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OT: hosting forums

2001-05-25 Thread Danisment Gazi Unal (Unal Bilisim)

Hello,

do you know an organization supplies web-forums hosting. I'll launch my
FQA page, but I don't want to deal with setup/backup etc.

thanks...

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Re: Ok two databases..two machines..one database name

2001-05-25 Thread Rachel Carmichael

Paul, why are you sorry?  You CAN have two databases with the same database 
name on different machines. Differing passwords is a good idea, I should 
have thought of it.

I would NOT however, name the tnsnames.ora entries the same name on the two 
machines, that's another way to help prevent problems.


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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 21:20:21 -0800

Rachel Carmichael wrote:
 
  short answer:   yes you can
 
  From: Steve McClure [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   My question is can I have databases with the same name
  running simultaneously on two different machines if I make sure the
  tnsnames
  for each database points to it's own server?  The database is 7.3.4.  
As
  soon as I send this off I am going to create a small DB just to test 
this
  out, but your input, as usual, is appreciated.
  
  Thanks,
  Steve McClure
  

Well, on 7.3.4 I guess that there wasn't a service_name, so this isn't
that helpful:

Use the service_name : schema in your sql prompt

  - and - more importantly -

use unique passwords on each database.

Very helpful when you're brain dead to prevent you from having to test
your recovery skills in an unscheduled setting.

Sorry Rachel. :)

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RE: Steve Adam's Removal

2001-05-25 Thread Rachel Carmichael

you're right -- Henry isn't the list owner here in any case.

For those of you who want to discuss this, Henry set up a discussion forum 
on the lazydba site.

AFAIK, Steve is still a member of Oracle-L :)


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Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 02:16:06 -0800

Erm... am I missing something but wasn't the original mail removing Steve
Adams from the lazydba discussion list and not this one ??

Cheers

Lee


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Dear Henry,

   Please reconsider this issue !
I am sure there are many-many more who want to request not
to remove Steve and would support my mail, but are afraid
that other's mail-box would fill up by these request only..
   To be frank  honest, he is the only list member who
has a folder in my outlook( I am not offending any-body
else)
   Seriously ... please dont' do this

Best Regards,
Rajesh

-Original Message-
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 9:26 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


i hope this thread is still alive and my reply makes it to the
list...

by removing Steve from the list , we all will miss the insight into
oracle
internals,
which he provided , thru his answers and the links (plugs ? ) to his
website..

many threads would end when Steve provides his explanation/answer, this
show

the respect posters have for his knowledge or Oracle.

please reconsider

Regards
Rahul


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  Subject:RE: Steve Adam's Removal
 
  Henry,  List
 
  I second you on this one.
  I respect Henry being the list owner, having authority to do as he
  pleases.
 
  ORACLE -L is possibly the best Oracle list out there,and has brought
so
  many
 
  Oracle professionals together, but lets not lose our experts.
 
  Please reconsider the removal of Steve Adams from the list.
 
  He takes up lots of his time to answer performance related questions
  posted by list members with precise actions to be taken and great
  explanations.
 
  He is an invaluable member to the Oracle world and his expertise,
  generosity
  will
  surely be missed if he removed.
 
  Kind Regards and pls reconsider
  Suhen
 
 
 
 
  List,
 
  While I respect Henry's authority as list owner to remove people from
the
  list, and the need to do so when people are breaking the rules, I
would
  like
  to protest the removal of Steve Adams.  He is one of the top experts
in
  Oracle internals in the world, and he was gracious enough to take time
to
  answer people's questions on the list.
 
  I am not sure what he ever did that was thought to be spamming, except
  answer people's questions.  He has a link to his website in his
signature,
  and often his answers were links to a place on his site where he had
  already
  answered that question.  I don't see what's wrong with that, none of
it
  seems to violate the rules of the list.
 
  If it was a matter of one or two people complaining about Steve's
posts,
  perhaps the list should have been asked.  I can only hope that the
  overwhelming majority understood Steve's method of answering questions
and
  were not annoyed with it.
 
  The show now knows a lot less about Oracle Internal Services.
 
  Reed Sutton
 
 
 
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  Subject: Re: Spamming the list
 
 
  I'm afraid, you'll actually have to leave the list Steve. Picking
lines
  from
  private emails sent between us, and presenting them out of context
isn't
  something that most people would have expected from you. I'm sorry
that
  it's
  had to come to this.
 
  Indeed, the show will go on.
 
  Goodbye.
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RE:

2001-05-25 Thread Mohan, Karthik (GEP)
Title: RE: 





Hi ,


 When trying to exceute a PL/SQL program which reads data from a file into a record (using utlfile) , I get an error as listed below

ORA-04030: out of process memory when trying to allocate 8208 bytes (PLS
non-lib hp,PL/SQL STACK)
ORA-07324: smpall: malloc error while allocating pga.
HP-UX Error: 12: Not enough space


Any ideas on what the problem is 


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Re: SQL PROBLEM for duplicate rows..

2001-05-25 Thread Burçin Üstün Kýlýç

I am sorry I made a mistake in naming . Correct one is below:
delete from table_name where rowid not in (select maxrowid from (select
 column1,column2, max(rowid) maxrowid  from table_name group by
column1,column2));

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 I think this query eliminates the duplicated rows:

 delete from table_name where rowid not in (select maxrowid from (select
 column1,column2, max(rowid) maxrowid  from den group by column1,column2));

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  Hi
 
  Table A got some duplicated rows.. The requirement is to delete the
  duplicate records by maintaing one copy..
  Is it manageable thru single query? or have to go for PL/SQL procedure?
 
  Pl. send me ur valuable inputs.
 
  Saravanakumar
 
 
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Re: SQL PROBLEM for duplicate rows..

2001-05-25 Thread N. SARAVANA KUMAR

Yes, It works .. Thanks..
On Fri, 25 May 2001, [iso-8859-1] Burçin Üstün Kýlýç wrote:

 I think this query eliminates the duplicated rows:
 
 delete from table_name where rowid not in (select maxrowid from (select
 column1,column2, max(rowid) maxrowid  from den group by column1,column2));
 
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  Hi
 
  Table A got some duplicated rows.. The requirement is to delete the
  duplicate records by maintaing one copy..
  Is it manageable thru single query? or have to go for PL/SQL procedure?
 
  Pl. send me ur valuable inputs.
 
  Saravanakumar
 
 
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RE: Ok two databases..two machines..one database name

2001-05-25 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe

When we do this (alongwith giving different passwords), we differentiate in
tnsnames by using the server_sid type idea

eg,

SERVER1_TEST =
  (DESCRIPTION =
(ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = SERVER1)(PORT = 1521))
(CONNECT_DATA =
  (SID = TEST)
)
  )

SERVER2_TEST =
  (DESCRIPTION =
(ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = SERVER2)(PORT = 1521))
(CONNECT_DATA =
  (SID = TEST)
)
  )

Therefore when we need to connect it would use the differing connect
strings.

Regards

Lee


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Paul, why are you sorry?  You CAN have two databases with the same database 
name on different machines. Differing passwords is a good idea, I should 
have thought of it.

I would NOT however, name the tnsnames.ora entries the same name on the two 
machines, that's another way to help prevent problems.


From: Paul Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Ok two databases..two machines..one database name
Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 21:20:21 -0800

Rachel Carmichael wrote:
 
  short answer:   yes you can
 
  From: Steve McClure [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   My question is can I have databases with the same name
  running simultaneously on two different machines if I make sure the
  tnsnames
  for each database points to it's own server?  The database is 7.3.4.  
As
  soon as I send this off I am going to create a small DB just to test 
this
  out, but your input, as usual, is appreciated.
  
  Thanks,
  Steve McClure
  

Well, on 7.3.4 I guess that there wasn't a service_name, so this isn't
that helpful:

Use the service_name : schema in your sql prompt

  - and - more importantly -

use unique passwords on each database.

Very helpful when you're brain dead to prevent you from having to test
your recovery skills in an unscheduled setting.

Sorry Rachel. :)

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Re: How to send email from pl/sql in 806?

2001-05-25 Thread Saurabh Sharma

hi,
i've oracle 8.1.5 on NT. but could'nt find the utltcp.sql , infact it had
the procedure utl_http
could it help?

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 hi sharma
 The builtin packages UTL_SMTP and UTL_TCP are available with oracle 8.1.5
 onwards , thats the reason you were getting compilation errors.
 Ramana


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  Subject: Re: How to send email from pl/sql in 806?
 
  HI,
   i tried creating this procedure. but it results into compilation
errors.
  says..
  utl_tcp.connection must be declared, and so does for
  utl_tcp.get_line and
  utl_tcp.write_line
 
  how do we fefine them. where is this package utl_tcp
 
  pls explore.
 
  thanks.
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   try this procedure it works  just replace the IP address in the line
   c := utl_tcp.open_connection('192.168.1.1', 25);
   with the IP address of u'r mail server
  
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  rem
  ---
   rem Filename:   smtp.sql
   rem Purpose:Send e-mail messages from PL/SQL
   rem Notes:  From Oracle8i release 8.1.6 one can send e-mail
messages
   rem   directly from PL/SQL using either the UTL_TCP or UTL_SMTP
   rem   packages. No pipes or external procedures required.
   rem Date:   27-Mar-2000
   rem Author: Frank Naude ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  
  rem
  ---
  
   CREATE OR REPLACE PROCEDURE SEND_MAIL (
 msg_fromvarchar2 := 'oracle',
 msg_to  varchar2,
 msg_subject varchar2 := 'E-Mail message from your database',
 msg_textvarchar2 := '' )
   IS
 c  utl_tcp.connection;
 rc integer;
   BEGIN
 c := utl_tcp.open_connection('192.168.1.1', 25);   -- open the
  SMTP
   port 25 on local machine
 dbms_output.put_line(utl_tcp.get_line(c, TRUE));
 rc := utl_tcp.write_line(c, 'HELO 192.168.1.1');
 dbms_output.put_line(utl_tcp.get_line(c, TRUE));
 rc := utl_tcp.write_line(c, 'MAIL FROM: '||msg_from);
 dbms_output.put_line(utl_tcp.get_line(c, TRUE));
 rc := utl_tcp.write_line(c, 'RCPT TO: '||msg_to);
 dbms_output.put_line(utl_tcp.get_line(c, TRUE));
 rc := utl_tcp.write_line(c, 'DATA'); -- Start
message
   body
 dbms_output.put_line(utl_tcp.get_line(c, TRUE));
 rc := utl_tcp.write_line(c, 'Subject: '||msg_subject);
 rc := utl_tcp.write_line(c, '');
 rc := utl_tcp.write_line(c, msg_text);
 rc := utl_tcp.write_line(c, '.');-- End of
message
   body
 dbms_output.put_line(utl_tcp.get_line(c, TRUE));
 rc := utl_tcp.write_line(c, 'QUIT');
 dbms_output.put_line(utl_tcp.get_line(c, TRUE));
 utl_tcp.close_connection(c); -- Close the
   connection
   EXCEPTION
 when others then
  raise_application_error(-2,'Unable to send e-mail message
  from
   pl/sql');
   END;
   /
   show errors
  
   --  Examples:
   set serveroutput on
  
   exec send_mail(msg_to  ='Omar Khalid/IT/LotusCert/Pk');
   exec send_mail(msg_to  ='[EMAIL PROTECTED]');
  
   exec send_mail(msg_to  ='[EMAIL PROTECTED]',
   msg_text='Look Ma I can send mail from plsql');
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
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   I am aware that 817 supports UTL_SMTP for this same
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Re: QUERRY DOUBT..

2001-05-25 Thread Saurabh Sharma



THANKS A LOT, Seley 

the querry works absolutely fine. 
instead i've created a view. which can be easier to querry. and it also let me 
able to devise way for finding each individuals' report.

thanks again.

saurabh sharma

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Seley, 
  Linda 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 1:51 PM
  Subject: RE: QUERRY DOUBT..
  
  Try 
  this:
  
  select d.owner, 
  d.table_name,b.constraint_name,b.constraint_type,d.column_namefrom 
  all_tables a,all_constraints b,all_cons_columns c, all_tab_columns dwhere 
  d.owner = c.owner (+)and d.table_name = c.table_name (+)and 
  d.column_name = c.column_name (+)and c.table_name = a.table_name 
  (+)and c.table_name = b.table_name (+)and c.constraint_name = 
  b.constraint_name(+)and c.owner = a.owner (+)and c.owner = b.owner 
  (+)order by d.owner, d.table_name, d.column_id;
  
  HTH
  
  Linda
  
-Original Message-From: Saurabh Sharma 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 12:46 
AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
QUERRY DOUBT..
hi all,

i've a querry that is to find 
out what all columns have constraints applied on them. giving the 
table_name,column_name,constraint name and constraint type.

the querry goes 
like..

select 
a.table_name,b.constraint_name,b.constraint_type,c.column_namefrom 
user_tables a,user_constraints b,user_cons_columns cwhere 
a.table_name=b.table_name 
andb.constraint_name=c.constraint_name/

now i need to make a report 
which gives out in the same result all the tables' columns which have 
constraints and which have not, both.
leaving the constraint_type and 
constraint name columns null in the same querry.
is it possible, or do we have 
other alternative to do that.

pls suggest.
thanks

saurabh




RE: Ok two databases..two machines..one database name

2001-05-25 Thread Rao, Maheswara

We have two 804 db's with same sid running on two different machines.  One
is production and another is development.  Our TNSNAMES contain machine_name
+ sid.  This way we identify which db we are connecting.

Initially I had lot of problems getting OEM recognize these two db's.  When
I called up Oracle support, they said that I cannot have two db's with same
sid and global name and OEM agent would not recognize.  Essentially, they
washed off their hands clean.

Then, I played around with the intelligent agent file and finally OEM
started recognizing the two db's.

ONE CAUTION:

Keep your archived redo's stored separately and come up with a plan on
identifying which tape belongs to what machine.  Passwords, yes, be careful.

Rao

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I have been tasked with moving a production database to a 'backup' machine.
I ran my plan past you a week or so ago.  Essentially I will put the DB in
backup mode, copy the datafiles, shutdown, copy redo and control files, then
recover on the second machine.  So far plain vanilla.  I understand the
above procedure enough to have actually thought of it.

My problem now is this.  I need to test this instance on the 'backup'
machine before we actually do the move.  This is Just to make sure the
application is completely in order.  One of the developers is telling me
that having the two databases up and running with the same SID, even on
separate machines MAY cause trouble for the production instance.  I believe
that if I make sure the tnsnames.ora file for both servers points to their
own local instances, that I will not have a problem.  The clients will only
access the database pointed to in their tnsnames files, so I am confident we
are ok there.  My question is can I have databases with the same name
running simultaneously on two different machines if I make sure the tnsnames
for each database points to it's own server?  The database is 7.3.4.  As
soon as I send this off I am going to create a small DB just to test this
out, but your input, as usual, is appreciated.

Thanks,
Steve McClure

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Full user export

2001-05-25 Thread Witold . Iwaniec



Hi DBA's

What is the proper syntax of the exp command to get export of all objects owned
by a user - tables, views, stored procedures, synonyms, grants. And will the
import require special parameters too?

I have a small development database on Windows NT and would like to create a
copy on Windows Me running Personal Oracle for Win 98. When I duplicated the
database to anotehr Windows NT machine it was simple - copy all datafiles, mount
the database, update control files, etc. But here I have different operating
systems so can not simply copy files.

Thanks

Witold


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Re: How to send email from pl/sql in 806?

2001-05-25 Thread OKhalid


hi saurabh

nops utl_http  will not help it's a different procedure
here is the code in utltcp.sql file
hope it solves u'r problem

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REM  Copyright (c) 1999 by Oracle Corporation.
REM
REM  NAME
REMutltcp.sql - PL/SQL Package for TCP/IP communication
REM (Package Specification of UTL_TCP)
REM
REM  DESCRIPTION
REMRoutines to perform TCP/IP communication.
REM
REM  NOTES
REMThe procedural option is needed to use this package.
REMThis package must be created under SYS.
REM
REM  MODIFIED (MM/DD/YY)
REM  jmuller   09/16/99 - Fix bug 708690: final pass
REM  rpang 08/11/99 - Added constants for error codes
REM  rpang 07/28/99 - Added BAD_ARGUMENT exception
REM  rpang 05/14/99 - Created

CREATE OR REPLACE PACKAGE utl_tcp AS

 /***
  * OVERVIEW
  *
  * This package provides TCP/IP client-side access functionality in
PL/SQL.
  * With this package, a PL/SQL program can communicate with external
TCP/IP
  * services and retrieve data.  The API only allows connections to be
  * initiated by the PL/SQL program.  It does not allow the PL/SQL program
  * to accept connections initiated from outside of the program.
  *
  * USES
  *
  * A TCP/IP connection is initiated by a call to open_connection, which
  * returns a TCP/IP connection.  Text and binary data can be sent or
  * received on the connection.  It is also possible to look ahead at the
  * data before it is actually read.  The connection is terminated by
  * a call to close_connection.
  *
  * EXAMPLES
  *   Retrieve the home page from http://www.acme.com/
  *
  *   DECLARE
  * c  utl_tcp.connection;  -- TCP/IP connection to the Web server
  *   BEGIN
  * c := utl_tcp.open_connection('www.acme.com', 80);  -- open
connection
  *
  * utl_tcp.write_line(c, 'GET / HTTP/1.0');   -- send HTTP
request
  * utl_tcp.write_line(c);
  * BEGIN
  *   LOOP
  * dbms_output.put_line(utl_tcp.get_line(c, TRUE));  -- read
result
  *   END LOOP;
  * EXCEPTION
  *   WHEN utl_tcp.end_of_input THEN
  * NULL; -- end of input
  * END;
  * utl_tcp.close_connection(c);
  *   END;
  */

  /*
   * TCP connection type
   */
  TYPE connection IS RECORD (
remote_host   VARCHAR2(255),   -- Remote host name
remote_port   PLS_INTEGER, -- Remote port number
local_hostVARCHAR2(255),   -- Local host name
local_portPLS_INTEGER, -- Local port number
charset   VARCHAR2(30),-- Character set for on-the-wire comm.
newline   VARCHAR2(2), -- Newline character sequence
private_sdPLS_INTEGER, -- For internal use only
private_bfRAW(32767),  -- For internal use only
private_bfsz  PLS_INTEGER, -- For internal use only
private_pos   PLS_INTEGER, -- For internal use only
private_end   PLS_INTEGER, -- For internal use only
private_mkpos PLS_INTEGER  -- For internal use only
  );

  /*
   * Carriage-return line-feed character sequence.
   */
  CRLF CONSTANT VARCHAR2(10) := chr(13) || chr(10);

  /*
   * Exceptions
   */
  buffer_too_small  EXCEPTION;  -- Buffer is too small for I/O
  end_of_input  EXCEPTION;  -- End of input from the connection
  network_error EXCEPTION;  -- Network error
  bad_argument  EXCEPTION;  -- Bad argument passed in API call
  buffer_too_small_errcode CONSTANT PLS_INTEGER:= -2;
  end_of_input_errcode CONSTANT PLS_INTEGER:= -20001;
  network_error_errcodeCONSTANT PLS_INTEGER:= -20002;
  bad_argument_errcode CONSTANT PLS_INTEGER:= -20003;
  PRAGMA EXCEPTION_INIT(buffer_too_small, -2);
  PRAGMA EXCEPTION_INIT(end_of_input, -20001);
  PRAGMA EXCEPTION_INIT(network_error,-20002);
  PRAGMA EXCEPTION_INIT(bad_argument, -20003);

  /**
   * Opens a connection to a TCP/IP service.  When connection is made
   * succesfully, the remote host name and remote port number will be
stored in
   * the connection.  If local_host, local_port or charset is specified,
   * it will be stored in the connection as well.
   *
   * PARAMETERS
   *   remote_host remote host name to connect to
   *   remote_port remote port number to connect to
   *   local_host  local host name to connect from
   *   local_port  local port number to connect from
   *   in_buffer_size  input buffer size
   *   out_buffer_size output buffer size
   *   charset character set for 

Re: OT: Winnie quote

2001-05-25 Thread Thater, William

On Thu, 24 May 2001,Campbell, James scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:

-If you live to be a hundred, I want to live to be a hundred minus one
-day,so I never have to live without you. -- Winnie the Pooh
-
-Dear me, Bill, where on earth did you get that from?  I think I can hear
-A.A. Milne revolving in his grave.

off the web somewhere, and yes i am aware it's not the real pooh having all the pooh 
books from christopher robin milne himself.  but i like it anyway.;-)  and i always 
was a contrary person.  just ask the Goddess.;-)

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~~
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You gotta compile like you'll never get hurt,
You gotta run like there's nobody watching,
It's gotta come from the heart if you want it to work.
~~
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RE: BUNYAMIN POSTS HAVE A VIRUS

2001-05-25 Thread Burton, Laura L.
Title: RE: BUNYAMIN POSTS HAVE A VIRUS





Didn't he send an email to the list yesterday apologizing for this and stated that he had no idea it was happening?


Laura


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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: Re: BUNYAMIN POSTS HAVE A VIRUS




Well, I sent him an email about this last night, and no
reply yet.


Or was it this morning? Anyway, it was dark. :)


I guess he gets unsubscribed now. :(


Jared






Hot Backup Temp Data Files

2001-05-25 Thread Joseph Raj

hi DBA's

All the hot backup scripts that i have seen on the web do not backup the
temp datafiles ( files in sys.dba_temp_files ).

While their contents may be irrelevent for recovery operations,  are'nt the
files (identical in path, name  size ) required to be created if lost.

Regards,
Joseph Raj Kumar



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RE: Another Database Down

2001-05-25 Thread Burton, Laura L.
Title: Another Database Down





snip
Just 
to put you a little more in the picture I have recovered a couple of DBs now 
without archived redo log files etc where all hope had been lost and resumes 
were being updated and got them back by fudging a couple of issues. (Oracle 
would probably throw their hands up in horror and refuse to support what I did, 
but the database opened, I didn't lose any data (this I believe was down to good 
fortune rather than skill) and everyone was happy.
(snip
Lee
snip

Lee, I 
am just glad someone has responded and wants to help! 

I am 
not sure how much I told you about my situation, so bear with me while I recite 
it to you. Our OS is Windows NT. We had 2 disks to crash. Two 
of my databases are ok because I had archive logs for one and a cold backup for 
the other. However, I have one that I have not done anything too as far as 
backup, other than a physical backup of the database datafiles, redo 
logs, etc. The Sysadm had a full backup of the previous Friday and a 
differential backup from the following Thursday which he loaded back to the 
server when the new disks were installed.

I 
tried to recover the database and when it asked for the logs I entered 
cancel. It said that recovery was successful but gave me a warning that if 
I tried to open the database with the Resetlogs option it would tell me that my 
system datafile was too incomplete (or something to that 
affect).

Yesterday (Thursday) I did call Oracle and this is what this first guy 
had me do: 1) Startup Mount 2) Select from v$datafile to 
check the status of my datafiles. They were all online, which per Support, 
that was not good. 3) Alter database datafile ??? offline. This 
command gave me the error 'offline immediate disallowed unless media recovery 
enabled (ORA 01145).

So 
then I was referred to another Support person. He had me shutdown the 
database, startup mount, recover database. Of course the recover asked for 
a log and Support had me input each of my five redo logs, but the log with the 
info needed had already been overwritten so the info wasn't there and I didn't 
get any further.

Next 
Support wanted me to restore my files from the Friday backup only. This is 
where I have stopped because now I am waiting on my Sysadm to come in and 
restore them for me. I tried to call the Support guy back and let him know 
the status, but got a message stating that because I had only 'basic or bronze' 
support that I could only speak to someone between certain hours, and then was 
cut off. I had gone through Metalink though so I just updated the 
tar.

If you 
have any ideas for me I would appreciate any and all.

Thanks,
Laura



RE: FTP process exceeds ulimit as oracle user

2001-05-25 Thread Gene Sais

John - Thank you!  I refreshed the inetd and it works.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/24/01 03:11PM 
Hi Gene,

However, when FTP'ing using the oracle user id, it aborts at 
1gb.  I guessed the ftp daemon used some other user id for 
this.  Wrong ( well maybe).  I changed the default limits to 
unlimited for all users (i.e. default) and deleted the oracle 
user id from /etc/security/limits file.  Same problem, ftp 
process dies at 1gb.  Now, I am trying to get the file rather 
than putting it.  Lets see if this works?  

Your workaround is correct. The reason why this errored out before is this :
Root on the remote server receives a signal via inetd and starts up an
'ftpd' daemon under it's own account to serve you when you 'put' a file.
This is configured in the /etc/inetd.conf file (diff path in AIX) by the
following line:

ftp tli tcp nowait  root/usr/etc/ftpd   ftpd

$ ps -ef | grep ftpd
 root 28825   923   0  07:07:08 ?   0:00 ftpd --- this does the
job on the remote server
   oracle 28917   686   0  07:07:44 ttyAF/AFFL  0:00 grep ftpd 

When 'root' started out, the inetd process which triggers the start of the
ftpd inherits the previous limit of 1gb and hence you had this problem. To
solve this permanently, you will need to run the command 'refresh -s inetd'
as 'root' on AIX which restarts the inetd daemon.

Hth, (Hope this helps!)

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RE: OT: Winnie quote

2001-05-25 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

Speaking of the Goddess, which Winnie the Pooh character does she correspond
to?

: )

Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)


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Subject:Re: OT: Winnie quote

On Thu, 24 May 2001,Campbell, James scribbled on the wall in glitter
crayon:

-If you live to be a hundred, I want to live to be a hundred minus
one
-day,so I never have to live without you. -- Winnie the Pooh
-
-Dear me, Bill, where on earth did you get that from?  I think I
can hear
-A.A. Milne revolving in his grave.

off the web somewhere, and yes i am aware it's not the real pooh
having all the pooh books from christopher robin milne himself.  but i like
it anyway.;-)  and i always was a contrary person.  just ask the Goddess.;-)

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You gotta compile like you'll never get hurt,
You gotta run like there's nobody watching,
It's gotta come from the heart if you want it to work.
~~
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RE: Steve Adam's Removal

2001-05-25 Thread Richard Ji

I guess the lazy DBAs got tired of reading Oracle Internals.  They just want simple 
answers. :)

Richard Ji

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/25/01 07:15AM 
you're right -- Henry isn't the list owner here in any case.

For those of you who want to discuss this, Henry set up a discussion forum 
on the lazydba site.

AFAIK, Steve is still a member of Oracle-L :)


From: Robertson Lee - lerobe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Steve Adam's Removal
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 02:16:06 -0800

Erm... am I missing something but wasn't the original mail removing Steve
Adams from the lazydba discussion list and not this one ??

Cheers

Lee


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Sent: 25 May 2001 10:56
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Dear Henry,

   Please reconsider this issue !
I am sure there are many-many more who want to request not
to remove Steve and would support my mail, but are afraid
that other's mail-box would fill up by these request only..
   To be frank  honest, he is the only list member who
has a folder in my outlook( I am not offending any-body
else)
   Seriously ... please dont' do this

Best Regards,
Rajesh

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Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 9:26 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


i hope this thread is still alive and my reply makes it to the
list...

by removing Steve from the list , we all will miss the insight into
oracle
internals,
which he provided , thru his answers and the links (plugs ? ) to his
website..

many threads would end when Steve provides his explanation/answer, this
show

the respect posters have for his knowledge or Oracle.

please reconsider

Regards
Rahul


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  From:   Suhen Pather[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent:   Friday, May 25, 2001 6:36 AM
  To: LazyDBA.com Discussion
  Subject:RE: Steve Adam's Removal
 
  Henry,  List
 
  I second you on this one.
  I respect Henry being the list owner, having authority to do as he
  pleases.
 
  ORACLE -L is possibly the best Oracle list out there,and has brought
so
  many
 
  Oracle professionals together, but lets not lose our experts.
 
  Please reconsider the removal of Steve Adams from the list.
 
  He takes up lots of his time to answer performance related questions
  posted by list members with precise actions to be taken and great
  explanations.
 
  He is an invaluable member to the Oracle world and his expertise,
  generosity
  will
  surely be missed if he removed.
 
  Kind Regards and pls reconsider
  Suhen
 
 
 
 
  List,
 
  While I respect Henry's authority as list owner to remove people from
the
  list, and the need to do so when people are breaking the rules, I
would
  like
  to protest the removal of Steve Adams.  He is one of the top experts
in
  Oracle internals in the world, and he was gracious enough to take time
to
  answer people's questions on the list.
 
  I am not sure what he ever did that was thought to be spamming, except
  answer people's questions.  He has a link to his website in his
signature,
  and often his answers were links to a place on his site where he had
  already
  answered that question.  I don't see what's wrong with that, none of
it
  seems to violate the rules of the list.
 
  If it was a matter of one or two people complaining about Steve's
posts,
  perhaps the list should have been asked.  I can only hope that the
  overwhelming majority understood Steve's method of answering questions
and
  were not annoyed with it.
 
  The show now knows a lot less about Oracle Internal Services.
 
  Reed Sutton
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Henry O'Keeffe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 8:58 AM
  To: LazyDBA.com Discussion
  Subject: Re: Spamming the list
 
 
  I'm afraid, you'll actually have to leave the list Steve. Picking
lines
  from
  private emails sent between us, and presenting them out of context
isn't
  something that most people would have expected from you. I'm sorry
that
  it's
  had to come to this.
 
  Indeed, the show will go on.
 
  Goodbye.
  Henry.
 
 
  
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RE: BUNYAMIN POSTS HAVE A VIRUS

2001-05-25 Thread Rodd Holman

Yes, he did.  And, AFAIK he fixed the problem.  I haven't received any 
more virused messages from his system (Not from HIM they were sent 
without his knowledge).
Rodd Holman

Original Message dated 5/25/01, 8:51:44 AM
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Re: RE: BUNYAMIN POSTS HAVE A VIRUS:


Didn't he send an email to the list yesterday apologizing for this and 
stated that he had no idea it was happening? 
Laura 
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Well, I sent him an email about this last night, and no 
reply yet. 
Or was it this morning?  Anyway, it was dark.  :) 
I guess he gets unsubscribed now.  :( 
Jared 

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RE: Full user export

2001-05-25 Thread Deshpande, Kirti

exp owner=username file=user.dmp 
imp full=y file=user.dmp 
Use additional options with exp and imp as desired. For a complete list of
options use 'exp help=y' and 'imp help=y'. Detail information is available
in the Oracle Utilities Guide.
HTH,

Regards,

- Kirti Deshpande 
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 Subject:  Full user export
 
 
 
 Hi DBA's
 
 What is the proper syntax of the exp command to get export of all objects
 owned
 by a user - tables, views, stored procedures, synonyms, grants. And will
 the
 import require special parameters too?
 
 I have a small development database on Windows NT and would like to create
 a
 copy on Windows Me running Personal Oracle for Win 98. When I duplicated
 the
 database to anotehr Windows NT machine it was simple - copy all datafiles,
 mount
 the database, update control files, etc. But here I have different
 operating
 systems so can not simply copy files.
 
 Thanks
 
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RE: Another Database Down

2001-05-25 Thread Jim Hawkins

Laura,

I fight this nearly every damn day.  We constantly refresh several SAP 
systems from production copies via EMC BCV's and TimeFinder.  About half of 
the time, I get the same error, where recovery was successful, but open 
resetlogs would fail.  It turns out, in my case, that no amount of recovery 
will every get this database open (even with resetlogs) with this backup 
set.  Apparently there is an issue with a piece of the EMC software that 
causes problems when mirrors are split during a hot backup.  To make a long 
story short, there is an event you can set in via a server manager session 
that will dump all datafile headers.  What you look for is what Oracle 
calls a fuzzy SCN.  That is, an SCN hex value that evaluates to a non-
sensical number.  In English, the SCN for the header should have some hex 
value that corresponds to a number.  If it is set to something like 
FFx, then you have a fuzzy SCN which means your backup is bad and 
will never work.  I don't know if this is your exact problem or not, but 
since you're getting the same symptoms I was, I thought I would throw it 
out there.  You can read more on MetaLink by searching for fuzzy SCN.  By 
the way, as soon as our RS/6000 SA upgraded our version of PowerPath, the 
bug went away, we have consistent mirror splits, and all is well on the SAP 
backup/restore front...

Sorry if I threw you way off on a tangent on this one.

Jim

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 snip
 Just to put you a little more in the picture I have recovered a couple of
 DBs now without archived redo log files etc where all hope had been lost 
and
 resumes were being updated and got them back by fudging a couple of 
issues.
 (Oracle would probably throw their hands up in horror and refuse to 
support
 what I did, but the database opened, I didn't lose any data (this I 
believe
 was down to good fortune rather than skill) and everyone was happy.
 (snip
 Lee
 snip
  
 Lee, I am just glad someone has responded and wants to help!  
  
 I am not sure how much I told you about my situation, so bear with me 
while
 I recite it to you.  Our OS is Windows NT.  We had 2 disks to crash.  Two 
of
 my databases are ok because I had archive logs for one and a cold backup 
for
 the other.  However, I have one that I have not done anything too as far 
as
 backup, other than a physical backup of the database datafiles, redo logs,
 etc.  The Sysadm had a full backup of the previous Friday and a 
differential
 backup from the following Thursday which he loaded back to the server when
 the new disks were installed.
  
 I tried to recover the database and when it asked for the logs I entered
 cancel.  It said that recovery was successful but gave me a warning that 
if
 I tried to open the database with the Resetlogs option it would tell me 
that
 my system datafile was too incomplete (or something to that affect).
  
 Yesterday (Thursday) I did call Oracle and this is what this first guy had
 me do:  1) Startup Mount2) Select from v$datafile to check the status 
of
 my datafiles.  They were all online, which per Support, that was not good.
 3) Alter database datafile ??? offline.  This command gave me the error
 'offline immediate disallowed unless media recovery enabled (ORA 01145).
  
 So then I was referred to another Support person.  He had me shutdown the
 database, startup mount, recover database.  Of course the recover asked 
for
 a log and Support had me input each of my five redo logs, but the log with
 the info needed had already been overwritten so the info wasn't there and 
I
 didn't get any further.
  
 Next Support wanted me to restore my files from the Friday backup only.
 This is where I have stopped because now I am waiting on my Sysadm to come
 in and restore them for me.  I tried to call the Support guy back and let
 him know the status, but got a message stating that because I had only
 'basic or bronze' support that I could only speak to someone between 
certain
 hours, and then was cut off.  I had gone through Metalink though so I just
 updated the tar.
  
 If you have any ideas for me I would appreciate any and all.
  
 Thanks,
 Laura
  
 


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New member

2001-05-25 Thread Speaks, Chuck W.

Hello,

Just wanted to introduce myself before posting to the list.  I look forward
to interacting with you guys/ladies on the list.  Have a great Friday!

Chuck Speaks, MCSE
Database Administrator
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RE: was about a virus now a song ...

2001-05-25 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

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BUNYAMIN POSTS HAD A VIRUS
EEE - III - EEE - III - O 


TGIF !!
Happy Weekend everyone...
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RE: Full user export

2001-05-25 Thread Rao, Maheswara

At the OS level give the following command.

exp owner=user name

Now, the program will ask you the username.  This time either give a user
name who has dba priviliger or give the same user name you mentioned in the
above command (exp owner=username)

If you had given the dba user name, then while importing you need to import
the file into that specific user using the dba user name.

hth

Rao


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Hi DBA's

What is the proper syntax of the exp command to get export of all objects
owned
by a user - tables, views, stored procedures, synonyms, grants. And will the
import require special parameters too?

I have a small development database on Windows NT and would like to create a
copy on Windows Me running Personal Oracle for Win 98. When I duplicated the
database to anotehr Windows NT machine it was simple - copy all datafiles,
mount
the database, update control files, etc. But here I have different operating
systems so can not simply copy files.

Thanks

Witold


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RE: Steve Adam's Removal

2001-05-25 Thread Christopher Spence

Yeah, amoung the complaints I saw against me where.


1.  I plugged my website (which I make no money, and provided for the
benefit for others)
2.  Two my emails were too long (I obviously spent too much time answering)
3.  Someone would come back and there would be 30 emails from me (Obviously
I answered too many questions)
4.  I would just say i agree at times (I guess backing up someone's
comment and basically saying I couldn't said it better and I would only
repeat his answer to strengthen it).

This is all after I left from hearing about Henry's plot.  Now someone on
this list has already posted someone on the board saying I am only plugging
my site, yet I have answered around 30 questions in less than 3 days.
Granted I try to get people to look at my site so they may find something to
help them.  Shame on me.
The funniest thing is there is 1500 or so list members on the other list,
30-50 of them post answers, 1450-1470 just post questions.  I have yet to
see the 30-50 of the complain about the same issues or much of anything.  

People don't understand it takes time to answer these emails and we have
better things to do.  We do this because we want to help people, with all
the barage of crap from people, it makes you want to just not bother.  

As such, my site will be unavailable due to it's helpful nature.

Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen.

Christopher R. Spence
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I guess the lazy DBAs got tired of reading Oracle Internals.  They just want
simple answers. :)

Richard Ji

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/25/01 07:15AM 
you're right -- Henry isn't the list owner here in any case.

For those of you who want to discuss this, Henry set up a discussion forum 
on the lazydba site.

AFAIK, Steve is still a member of Oracle-L :)


From: Robertson Lee - lerobe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Steve Adam's Removal
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 02:16:06 -0800

Erm... am I missing something but wasn't the original mail removing Steve
Adams from the lazydba discussion list and not this one ??

Cheers

Lee


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Sent: 25 May 2001 10:56
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Dear Henry,

   Please reconsider this issue !
I am sure there are many-many more who want to request not
to remove Steve and would support my mail, but are afraid
that other's mail-box would fill up by these request only..
   To be frank  honest, he is the only list member who
has a folder in my outlook( I am not offending any-body
else)
   Seriously ... please dont' do this

Best Regards,
Rajesh

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Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 9:26 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


i hope this thread is still alive and my reply makes it to the
list...

by removing Steve from the list , we all will miss the insight into
oracle
internals,
which he provided , thru his answers and the links (plugs ? ) to his
website..

many threads would end when Steve provides his explanation/answer, this
show

the respect posters have for his knowledge or Oracle.

please reconsider

Regards
Rahul


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  Subject:RE: Steve Adam's Removal
 
  Henry,  List
 
  I second you on this one.
  I respect Henry being the list owner, having authority to do as he
  pleases.
 
  ORACLE -L is possibly the best Oracle list out there,and has brought
so
  many
 
  Oracle professionals together, but lets not lose our experts.
 
  Please reconsider the removal of Steve Adams from the list.
 
  He takes up lots of his time to answer performance related questions
  posted by list members with precise actions to be taken and great
  explanations.
 
  He is an invaluable member to the Oracle world and his expertise,
  generosity
  will
  surely be missed if he removed.
 
  Kind Regards and pls reconsider
  Suhen
 
 
 
 
  List,
 
  While I respect Henry's authority as list owner to remove people from
the
  list, and the need to do so when people are breaking the rules, I
would
  like
  to protest the removal of Steve Adams.  He is one of the top experts
in
  Oracle internals in the world, and he was gracious enough to take time
to
  answer people's questions on the list.
 
  I am not sure what he ever did that was thought to be spamming, except
  answer people's questions.  He has a link to his website in his
signature,
  and often his answers were links to a place on his site where he had
  already
  answered that question.  I don't see what's wrong with that, none of
it
  seems to violate the rules of the list.
 
  If it was a matter of one or two people complaining about Steve's
posts,
  perhaps the 

Re[2]: Ok two databases..two machines..one database name

2001-05-25 Thread dgoulet

Rachel,

I love that nice short answer.  But I'll take the LONG road, if you please.

Steve,

The SID has nothing to do with the database outside of the physical bounds
of the computer your running it on.  Over here I'm still running with a very OLD
way of setting up SIDs that came up through V5.  Back then with SQL*Net V1
Oracle recommended setting your SIDs to something that was case insensitive. 
The reason is that the connect string back then was T:hostname:sid so a
SID of 'PROD' was different than 'prod' and it could become troublesome to
explain it all the time.  Well the only thing I can think of that are totally
case insensitive are numbers.  Consequently whenever we set up a new machine the
first instance thereon was designated '02'.  Fifteen machines later the strategy
still works, makes sense to those of us configuring Oracle Names, and the users
could care less.  So just as long tnsnames or Oracle Names points to the right
database with the right name, your all right.

Dick Goulet

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Author: Rachel Carmichael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:   5/24/2001 5:10 PM

short answer:   yes you can


From: Steve McClure [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Ok two databases..two machines..one database name
Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 16:40:50 -0800

I have been tasked with moving a production database to a 'backup' machine.
I ran my plan past you a week or so ago.  Essentially I will put the DB in
backup mode, copy the datafiles, shutdown, copy redo and control files, 
then
recover on the second machine.  So far plain vanilla.  I understand the
above procedure enough to have actually thought of it.

My problem now is this.  I need to test this instance on the 'backup'
machine before we actually do the move.  This is Just to make sure the
application is completely in order.  One of the developers is telling me
that having the two databases up and running with the same SID, even on
separate machines MAY cause trouble for the production instance.  I believe
that if I make sure the tnsnames.ora file for both servers points to their
own local instances, that I will not have a problem.  The clients will only
access the database pointed to in their tnsnames files, so I am confident 
we
are ok there.  My question is can I have databases with the same name
running simultaneously on two different machines if I make sure the 
tnsnames
for each database points to it's own server?  The database is 7.3.4.  As
soon as I send this off I am going to create a small DB just to test this
out, but your input, as usual, is appreciated.

Thanks,
Steve McClure

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RE: was about a virus now a song ...

2001-05-25 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe

get help !!



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BUNYAMIN POSTS HAD A VIRUS
EEE - III - EEE - III - O 


TGIF !!
Happy Weekend everyone...
Raj


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RE: Listener.log....writing to renamed file

2001-05-25 Thread Li, Xiangli
Title: RE: Listener.logwriting to renamed file





Thanks all.
Very clear and it works.



rgds,
Li


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Subject: RE: Listener.logwriting to renamed file


On NT, if you don't want to lose any listener.log entries and you want to
keep using the same logfile name then you will need to use set log_file
twice.


Also, under NT (at least with 815 and 817) don't specify an extension for
the log file - it automatically gets .log appended.


For example (something like the following untested code):

lsnrctl set log_file temp1
ren listener.log listener_tmp.log
lsnrctl set log_file listener
copy /b listener_tmp.log + temp1.log listener-date.log
del listener_tmp.log
del temp1.log

You could put the date into the archived listener log using the for command
to process output of date/t and time/t.
Note that using set log_file requires the listener password to be entered.
This can be automated under NT by using something like:

 rem create the temp file
 echo set password %lnrpwd%  %lnrstart_file%
 echo stop %1  %lnrstart_file%
 echo exit  %lnrstart_file%
 echo.  %lnrstart_file%


 rem feed it into lsnrctl
 lsnrctl  %lnrstart_file%





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Issue the SET LOG_FILE command using lsnrctl, then move/delete/whatever 
the old file.


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To: ORACLE-L; Xiangli.Li




May I know how to clear the content of listener.log without restart 
listener on NT platform ? 


thanks. 
Li 


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Subject:    RE: Listener.logwriting to renamed file 


 Reload doesn't close/reopen the file.  Here is a couple 
solutions   


 How's about a fast cat/clear solution: 


 #!/bin/ksh
cat listener.log listener.log.hist
ex listener.log EOF
1,$d
wq
EOF 


 Or if you wish to purge 90% of the file: 


 #!/bin/ksh
wc -l listener.log | read v_lines junk
v_keep=$(($(($v_lines * 10)) / 100))
v_purge=$(($v_lines - $v_keep))
ex listener.log EOF
1,$v_purged
wq
EOF 



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 On Thu, 24 May 2001,Tirumala, Surendra scribbled on the wall in 
glitter crayon: 


 -Hi List,
-As a regular maintainance work,I have moved the listener.log file to
-listener.log.old
-and 'touch'ed the listener.log, expecting the logging into this new 
file.
-But I am observing the logging being done to listener.log.old, 
instead.
-I could not recall any such previous experience.
-FYI, I cannot do any 'experiments' as far as this system is concerned 
as I
-have to deal with
-desupported HP-UX(10.01), Oracle (7.2.2.3).
-I have my logging being done to default 
path($ORACLE_HOME/network/log), as
-no parameter settings in listener.ora.
-Has anybody experienced this?
-
-TIA,
-
-Suren
-Oracle DBA
-Sony Electronics Ltd.
-
-
The file handle listener is using is still pointed at the old file.  To 
fix this you need to stop and start the listener.  This will not affect 
anybody who is already connected.  I'm not sure if a reload will do the 
same thing.


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RE: Full user export

2001-05-25 Thread Salman Faheem

Welcome to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Salman Faheem
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wrote:
 exp owner=username file=user.dmp 
 imp full=y file=user.dmp 
 Use additional options with exp and imp as desired.
 For a complete list of
 options use 'exp help=y' and 'imp help=y'. Detail
 information is available
 in the Oracle Utilities Guide.
 HTH,
 
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  Hi DBA's
  
  What is the proper syntax of the exp command to
 get export of all objects
  owned
  by a user - tables, views, stored procedures,
 synonyms, grants. And will
  the
  import require special parameters too?
  
  I have a small development database on Windows NT
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  a
  copy on Windows Me running Personal Oracle for Win
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  database to anotehr Windows NT machine it was
 simple - copy all datafiles,
  mount
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 I have different
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OT RE: was about a virus now a song ...

2001-05-25 Thread Mohan, Ross

ROFL!!!


These two posts were funny as hell!

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RE: OT: Winnie quote

2001-05-25 Thread Rachel Carmichael

that's easy!  I'm Eeyore.

sometimes maybe I'm Christopher Robin, but I'm not really sure about that

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Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 06:00:31 -0800

Speaking of the Goddess, which Winnie the Pooh character does she 
correspond
to?

: )

Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)


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   On Thu, 24 May 2001,Campbell, James scribbled on the wall in glitter
crayon:

   -If you live to be a hundred, I want to live to be a hundred minus
one
   -day,so I never have to live without you. -- Winnie the Pooh
   -
   -Dear me, Bill, where on earth did you get that from?  I think I
can hear
   -A.A. Milne revolving in his grave.

   off the web somewhere, and yes i am aware it's not the real pooh
having all the pooh books from christopher robin milne himself.  but i like
it anyway.;-)  and i always was a contrary person.  just ask the 
Goddess.;-)

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RE: Steve Adam's Removal

2001-05-25 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

Christopher

You have a nice site, why take it off. If 30 people complain, they have an
option not to click on the link. For every good thing there will be a lot
of bad things. I just feel sad that we lost a good resource on the net.
Please bring it back.

A request to everyone ... a mere mention of a website doesn't mean that
someone is pushing for a product, if you don't like it, don't visit the
site. Everyone has the choice ... why complain? It is same as using the
delete key for unwanted email.

On a lighter note, how many of us feel compelled to send an email every time
they see an email address?

Oh Well ... I'll go hide now ... the Politically Correct police is already
in the lobby ... and the only thing I can say is ' AM I STUPID? '

Just my thoughts ...
Raj
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Again Recovery

2001-05-25 Thread Raghu Kota

Hi Friends

I want to test recovery on my AIX test box, Iam planning full recovery from 
Y'day night backup including Operating system. Next scenario is only 
Database recovery by restoring datafiles!!

Could you shed some light on both scenarios, steps and precautions to take.

I appreciate your comments very much. I have oracle version7.3 and AIX4.3

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RE: New member

2001-05-25 Thread Mohan, Ross

Welcome, Chuck. 

Welcome to a Land of Microsoft Zealots, Bigots, And Agnostics. 

Welcome to a List where politics and recipes are posted with
equal fervor as SQL Tuning tips. 

The water's fine!

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RE: ULIMIT Problem continues: Please Help

2001-05-25 Thread Deshpande, Kirti

Hi Raja,
 Try setting ' ulimit -f unlimited' in the profile file for oracle user id
before starting the installer. 
 You may have to enable the large file support, if not already done. A
casual search for 'How to set ulimit on Unixware?' on http://www.google.com
found this link http://www.sco.com/developer/core9/migpth9.htm. Let us know
if that helps you out. Else, I suggest a call to SCO Support. 

HTH..
 
- Kirti Deshpande 
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 Hello every one,
 
 I have got this major problem on my hands. I am trying to install Oracle
 8.05.0 on SCO Unixware 7.1.0. 
 
 Now, I am stuck in trying to install Oracle,  the error says:-
 
 ULIMIT is not as high as 2113674. In order to install Oracle, my ULIMIT
 needs to be 2113674.
 
 The problem is that I have set the ULIMIT=500, in the
 /etc/default/login file. Further when I telnet from an outside system and
 then do ulimit, it says I have, -3388608, but when I am on the system
 itself, then I get the value as 2097152.
 
 Further, when I try to install from the outside system(by outside system I
 mean a unix machine in out network), I get the File Size Exceeded
 message and my termnial freezes. 
 
 Please help with the above problem, as to how I can increase my ulimit,
 and move ahead with the installation.
 
 Thanks and Regards,
 
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Fire your DBA's you don't need them anymore...

2001-05-25 Thread Bowes, Chris
Title: Fire your DBA's you don't need them anymore...





My boss just received a cold call from Oracle that he let me listen in on. They have a new push on for their i-dba support package. For just a little more money (they did not define little), we will replace your dba's with our superior support team that will monitor your database 24x7 and proactively eliminate problems. This will allow you to redesign you office to offload these cumbersome DBA tasks and allow your workers to do other things. You will never have another database problem. I felt good when my boss indicated that we had no base problems but based on this, I guess we will have to become sqlserver DBAs or gasp developers... :)

Ahh, Friday, wonderful Friday, it seems like you've been away all week...


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RE: Full user export

2001-05-25 Thread Deshpande, Kirti

Welcome? 
Gee!! ... Thanks...

I thought I have been here for the past several years !! 

- Kirti Deshpande 
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Re: OT: Winnie quote

2001-05-25 Thread Dennis Taylor

At 04:55 PM 5/24/01 -0800, you wrote:

That 'quote' isn't from Pooh at all, it's probably from Walt @#$$^^@!
Disney.  The REAL Pooh is much wiser than that cheap greetings-card stuff!


Oh, bother.


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RE: Steve Adam's Removal

2001-05-25 Thread Peddycoart, Judy

I agree with Raj; and, yes, I am one of those 1450 who lurk on the list,
not contributing much.  I'm still learning Oracle, and am in awe of those on
the list with so much knowledge!  I've been a DBA for many years (IMS and
DB2 before learning Oracle), and I've learned that you never know when
you're going to need a resource.  We all have delete keys, and hopefully
know how to use them!


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Christopher

You have a nice site, why take it off. If 30 people complain, they have an
option not to click on the link. For every good thing there will be a lot
of bad things. I just feel sad that we lost a good resource on the net.
Please bring it back.

A request to everyone ... a mere mention of a website doesn't mean that
someone is pushing for a product, if you don't like it, don't visit the
site. Everyone has the choice ... why complain? It is same as using the
delete key for unwanted email.

On a lighter note, how many of us feel compelled to send an email every time
they see an email address?

Oh Well ... I'll go hide now ... the Politically Correct police is already
in the lobby ... and the only thing I can say is ' AM I STUPID? '

Just my thoughts ...
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RE: OT: Winnie quote

2001-05-25 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe

I'm out for some department beers tonight and then on to a casino till the
wee small hours.

By tomorrow, I will be Eyesore



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that's easy!  I'm Eeyore.

sometimes maybe I'm Christopher Robin, but I'm not really sure about that

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Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 06:00:31 -0800

Speaking of the Goddess, which Winnie the Pooh character does she 
correspond
to?

: )

Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)


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   On Thu, 24 May 2001,Campbell, James scribbled on the wall in glitter
crayon:

   -If you live to be a hundred, I want to live to be a hundred minus
one
   -day,so I never have to live without you. -- Winnie the Pooh
   -
   -Dear me, Bill, where on earth did you get that from?  I think I
can hear
   -A.A. Milne revolving in his grave.

   off the web somewhere, and yes i am aware it's not the real pooh
having all the pooh books from christopher robin milne himself.  but i like
it anyway.;-)  and i always was a contrary person.  just ask the 
Goddess.;-)

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Standby vs. Adv. Replication (Multi-master)

2001-05-25 Thread Walter K

Hi,

I'm looking for feedback on setting up a
high-availability architecture for our production
database. In a nutshell, we are a 24-hour shop and I
need to be able to keep a secondary database
(failover) in sync with the primary in case the
primary fails. I have supported advanced replication
(asynchronous) in the past but it was a single master
relationship not multi-master.

I'm leaning towards a standby database setup because
my experience with advanced replication is less than
favorable if/when transactions get out of sync. Also,
one of the tables contains a LONG RAW. This column may
go away or may be converted to a CLOB in the very near
future but still needs to be kept in consideration
when selecting a solution.

The platform is Sun (SunOS 5.7) with 8.1.6. The
secondary machine and database will most likely be
located in another state. The database is small right
now (~10Gb) and will continue to grow, but not too
fast.

What are your opinions? 
Is there an obvious choice between the two
alternatives? 
Is there another alternative that I should be
considering?

Thanks VERY much in advance.
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RE: OT: Winnie quote

2001-05-25 Thread Rachel Carmichael


nah, Tigger bounces and has only a small brain... and he's ALWAYS happy

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On Fri, 25 May 2001,Rachel Carmichael scribbled on the wall in glitter 
crayon:

-that's easy!  I'm Eeyore.
-
-sometimes maybe I'm Christopher Robin, but I'm not really sure about that

i think of you more as Tiggeresqe.

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RE: Steve Adam's Removal

2001-05-25 Thread Hillman, Alex

What is the purpose of subscibing to Lazydba list at all?. I subscribed
sometime ago and in several months unsubscribed. There are only couple of
people who know what they are talking about and a lot of them on this list.
Number of cluless questions tremendows etc. Again, my impressions from about
a year ago. But I think nothing changed. However it would be intersting to
read selected lines from Henry's e-mails which Steve picked up and and what
was main Steve's sin. Of cource mentioning his website in his e-mail it is
something uconsionable and unprovoked :-)
Why would anybody do it when they already have www.lazydba.com - I don't
understand it. 

Alex Hillman

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Yeah, amoung the complaints I saw against me where.


1.  I plugged my website (which I make no money, and provided for the
benefit for others)
2.  Two my emails were too long (I obviously spent too much time answering)
3.  Someone would come back and there would be 30 emails from me (Obviously
I answered too many questions)
4.  I would just say i agree at times (I guess backing up someone's
comment and basically saying I couldn't said it better and I would only
repeat his answer to strengthen it).

This is all after I left from hearing about Henry's plot.  Now someone on
this list has already posted someone on the board saying I am only plugging
my site, yet I have answered around 30 questions in less than 3 days.
Granted I try to get people to look at my site so they may find something to
help them.  Shame on me.
The funniest thing is there is 1500 or so list members on the other list,
30-50 of them post answers, 1450-1470 just post questions.  I have yet to
see the 30-50 of the complain about the same issues or much of anything.  

People don't understand it takes time to answer these emails and we have
better things to do.  We do this because we want to help people, with all
the barage of crap from people, it makes you want to just not bother.  

As such, my site will be unavailable due to it's helpful nature.

Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen.

Christopher R. Spence
Oracle DBA
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I guess the lazy DBAs got tired of reading Oracle Internals.  They just want
simple answers. :)

Richard Ji

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/25/01 07:15AM 
you're right -- Henry isn't the list owner here in any case.

For those of you who want to discuss this, Henry set up a discussion forum 
on the lazydba site.

AFAIK, Steve is still a member of Oracle-L :)


From: Robertson Lee - lerobe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: Steve Adam's Removal
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 02:16:06 -0800

Erm... am I missing something but wasn't the original mail removing Steve
Adams from the lazydba discussion list and not this one ??

Cheers

Lee


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Dear Henry,

   Please reconsider this issue !
I am sure there are many-many more who want to request not
to remove Steve and would support my mail, but are afraid
that other's mail-box would fill up by these request only..
   To be frank  honest, he is the only list member who
has a folder in my outlook( I am not offending any-body
else)
   Seriously ... please dont' do this

Best Regards,
Rajesh

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i hope this thread is still alive and my reply makes it to the
list...

by removing Steve from the list , we all will miss the insight into
oracle
internals,
which he provided , thru his answers and the links (plugs ? ) to his
website..

many threads would end when Steve provides his explanation/answer, this
show

the respect posters have for his knowledge or Oracle.

please reconsider

Regards
Rahul


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  To: LazyDBA.com Discussion
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  Henry,  List
 
  I second you on this one.
  I respect Henry being the list owner, having authority to do as he
  pleases.
 
  ORACLE -L is possibly the best Oracle list out there,and has brought
so
  many
 
  Oracle professionals together, but lets not lose our experts.
 
  Please reconsider the removal of Steve Adams from the list.
 
  He takes up lots of his time to answer performance related questions
  posted by list members with precise actions to be taken and great
  explanations.
 
  He is an invaluable member to the Oracle world and his expertise,
  generosity
  will
  surely be missed if he removed.
 
  Kind Regards and pls reconsider
  Suhen
 
 
 
 
  List,
 
  While I 

RE: OT: Winnie quote

2001-05-25 Thread Thater, William

On Fri, 25 May 2001,Rachel Carmichael scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:

-that's easy!  I'm Eeyore.
-
-sometimes maybe I'm Christopher Robin, but I'm not really sure about that

i think of you more as Tiggeresqe.

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Telergy, Inc.[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: New member

2001-05-25 Thread Speaks, Chuck W.

Sounds great.  I am a Lazy DBA refugee and I must say that I like the tone
and banter on this list a lot better.  I'll be talking to you guys soon.
It's good to see familiar names like Chris Spence and Steve Adams, for they
are outlaws on other sites.  REAL TROUBLEMAKERS!

Chuck Speaks, MCSE
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Welcome, Chuck. 

Welcome to a Land of Microsoft Zealots, Bigots, And Agnostics. 

Welcome to a List where politics and recipes are posted with
equal fervor as SQL Tuning tips. 

The water's fine!

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RE: Sessions are waiting on buffer busy wait with P3 value 130 in v$s

2001-05-25 Thread Steve Adams

Hi Sri,

If you can identify the segments involved from the p1 and p2 parameters and put
those segments into a KEEP buffer pool you should be able to get a lot of
relief. Failing that, or if they are too big, consider either increasing
db_block_buffers if you can or setting _db_percent_hot_default to something like
80. That would allow up to 80% of the DEFAULT buffer pool to be used for hot
buffers thereby improving the caching of the buffers that are causing you to
wait.

@   Regards,
@   Steve Adams
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v$s


We've lot buffer busy waits in data block with P3 value 130 in V$session.

I've read about this in few notes, but still I do not understand few things.


P3=130 means:
-
Block is being read by another session and no other
suitable block image was found, so we wait until the read
is completed. This may also occur after a buffer cache
assumed deadlock. The kernel can't get a buffer in a
certain amount of time and assumes a deadlock.
Therefore it will read the CR version of the block.

Does it mean that the block is being held in an incompatible mode by the
first session or set of sessions reading it in shared mode, and current
session is trying to lock it exclusively for a DML and waiting for the same.


What are steps we can take to avoid this types of buffer busy waits?

Thanks for your help.
Sri
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RE: Steve Adam's Removal

2001-05-25 Thread Scott . Shafer

You need... HELP

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SNIP

 Oh Well ... I'll go hide now ... the Politically Correct police is already
 in the lobby ... and the only thing I can say is ' AM I STUPID? '
 
 Just my thoughts ...
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RE: OT: Winnie quote

2001-05-25 Thread Thater, William

On Fri, 25 May 2001,Rachel Carmichael scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:

-
-nah, Tigger bounces and has only a small brain... and he's ALWAYS happy

but he also pushes the envlope, does things because he wants to, and always manages to 
make them work.

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RE: Fire your DBA's you don't need them anymore...

2001-05-25 Thread Gary Weber
Title: Fire your DBA's you don't need them anymore...



Very 
stupid thing to do by Oracle, considering the fact that many Oracle purchasing 
decisions are made by Oracle DBAs. To shut us out like that will most certainly 
have an effect on Oracle Sales. Hell, you don't need me anymore? I'll switch 
political sides and jump the ship to IBM, or gasp 
Microsoft...

Far as 
their "superior" i-dba team, I sure hope those are different people from the 
ones you get on first line of Support...

Gary 
Weber

PS. Or 
maybe we should all become Oracle salesmen (saleswomen)

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ORACLE-LSubject: Fire your DBA's you don't need them 
anymore...
My boss just received a cold call from Oracle that he 
let me listen in on. They have a new push on for their i-dba support 
package. For just a little more money (they did not define little), "we 
will replace your dba's with our superior support team that will monitor your 
database 24x7 and proactively eliminate problems. This will allow you to 
redesign you office to offload these cumbersome DBA tasks and allow your workers 
to do other things. You will never have another database 
problem." I felt good when my boss indicated that we had no base 
problems but based on this, I guess we will have to become sqlserver DBAs or 
gasp developers... :)
Ahh, Friday, wonderful Friday, it seems like 
you've been away all week... 
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Re: OT: Winnie quote

2001-05-25 Thread Thater, William

On Fri, 25 May 2001,Dennis Taylor scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:

-At 04:55 PM 5/24/01 -0800, you wrote:
-
-That 'quote' isn't from Pooh at all, it's probably from Walt @#$$^^@!
-Disney.  The REAL Pooh is much wiser than that cheap greetings-card stuff!
-
-
-Oh, bother.
said Pooh,Eyore lock phasers on the Heffalump.  Piglet meet me in transporter 
room three.

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RE: Full user export

2001-05-25 Thread Salman Faheem

a :(
so you should welcome me 
today is my first day 
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RE: Steve Adam's Removal

2001-05-25 Thread Scott . Shafer

Isn't that (removing Steve from Lazydba) akin to removing your brain to
spite the space between your ears?

Scott Shafer
San Antonio, TX
210-581-6217

And no amount of training or preparedness can eliminate the almost
certainty that in the middle of your Angry Crane stance, as you transition
to your Combative Monkey to administer the Coup de Grâce via your Ninja
Death Touch, you step on a beer bottle and fall backwards into the juke box
and get your head stove in by a drunk with a pool cue.  --Jay Trigg

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 Erm... am I missing something but wasn't the original mail removing Steve
 Adams from the lazydba discussion list and not this one ??
 
 Cheers
 
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RE: OT: Winnie quote

2001-05-25 Thread MacGregor, Ian A.

The most wonderful thing about Tiggers
Is that Tiggers are wonderful things.
Their tops are made out of rubber;
Their bottoms are made out of springs.
They're bouncy, bouncy, bouncy, bouncy,
Fun, fun, fun, fun!
But the most wonderful thing about Tiggers 
is I'm the only one.

I don't recall anything about Tiggers being small-brained.  Pooh is  a bear of very 
litte brain.   Tigger does seem very much an overgrown child, and one wonders how he 
survived before taking that large gollolup of Roo's strengthening medicine.

Ian MacGregor
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nah, Tigger bounces and has only a small brain... and he's ALWAYS happy

From: Thater, William [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: OT: Winnie quote
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 11:09:25 -0400

On Fri, 25 May 2001,Rachel Carmichael scribbled on the wall in glitter 
crayon:

-that's easy!  I'm Eeyore.
-
-sometimes maybe I'm Christopher Robin, but I'm not really sure about that

i think of you more as Tiggeresqe.

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RE: Standby vs. Adv. Replication (Multi-master)

2001-05-25 Thread Jack C. Applewhite

Walter,

We have a Standby database and I love it - especially compared to the
complexities of  replication!

Once you set up the standby database, automate the mechanism for
transferring archived redo logs from your production db to the standby,
applying them, and deleting them once applied, it requires almost no
intervention.  About the only time I have to fiddle with the standby is
after I add a datafile to a tablespace on the production db.

We're on 8.1.6 under Win2k and our production db has almost 8 million CLOB
documents, with about 50,000 added each night.  The standby keeps up nicely.

Jack


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Hi,

I'm looking for feedback on setting up a
high-availability architecture for our production
database. In a nutshell, we are a 24-hour shop and I
need to be able to keep a secondary database
(failover) in sync with the primary in case the
primary fails. I have supported advanced replication
(asynchronous) in the past but it was a single master
relationship not multi-master.

I'm leaning towards a standby database setup because
my experience with advanced replication is less than
favorable if/when transactions get out of sync. Also,
one of the tables contains a LONG RAW. This column may
go away or may be converted to a CLOB in the very near
future but still needs to be kept in consideration
when selecting a solution.

The platform is Sun (SunOS 5.7) with 8.1.6. The
secondary machine and database will most likely be
located in another state. The database is small right
now (~10Gb) and will continue to grow, but not too
fast.

What are your opinions?
Is there an obvious choice between the two
alternatives?
Is there another alternative that I should be
considering?

Thanks VERY much in advance.
-w

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RE: OT: Winnie quote: Don't you Know What Ther Means

2001-05-25 Thread MacGregor, Ian A.

The first Pooh story has an exchange between Christopher Robin  and his father that 
goes something like this ...

AAM: ... anyway here he is ready to be introdcued to you now, Winnie-the-Pooh.  
When I first heard the name, I said, just as you are about to say, But I thought he 
was a boy.

CR: He is.

AAM: Then you can't call him Winnie.

CR: I don't, he's Winne-ther-Pooh.  Don't you know what 'ther' means?

AAM:  Ah yes now I do, and I hope your do to, for it's all the explanation you are 
going to get.

I don't know what ther means.  Perhaps I'm a DBA of very little brain.

I cannot see Rachael as the ever-depressed Eeyore.  Although I can envision her 
chomping on thistles without complaining about how hot they are.

Ian A. MacGregor
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On Thu, 24 May 2001,Campbell, James scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:

-If you live to be a hundred, I want to live to be a hundred minus one
-day,so I never have to live without you. -- Winnie the Pooh
-
-Dear me, Bill, where on earth did you get that from?  I think I can hear
-A.A. Milne revolving in his grave.

off the web somewhere, and yes i am aware it's not the real pooh having all the pooh 
books from christopher robin milne himself.  but i like it anyway.;-)  and i always 
was a contrary person.  just ask the Goddess.;-)

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backspace in Oracle.

2001-05-25 Thread Ron Rogers

List,
 I have created a test server using Linux 7.1 and Oracle 8.1.7.3 and it works great. 
The major problem I am having is I am NOT a typist and make errors at the SQL 
prompt. What do I set or define in the glogin to allow backspace to work as a 
backspace in Oracle? It has been a while since I had the privilege of UNIX ( in any 
flavor)
 Any info would be appreciated.
Thanks,
ROR mª¿ªm

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RE: New member

2001-05-25 Thread Mohan, Ross

We have one little rule that most folks follow
pretty well. 

If it's not about Oracle or oracle proper, we usually
place an OFFTOPIC or OT in the first position of
the subject line. 

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|| 
|| 
|| Sounds great.  I am a Lazy DBA refugee and I must say that I 
|| like the tone
|| and banter on this list a lot better.  I'll be talking to 
|| you guys soon.
|| It's good to see familiar names like Chris Spence and Steve 
|| Adams, for they
|| are outlaws on other sites.  REAL TROUBLEMAKERS!
|| 
|| Chuck Speaks, MCSE
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|| 
|| Welcome, Chuck. 
|| 
|| Welcome to a Land of Microsoft Zealots, Bigots, And Agnostics. 
|| 
|| Welcome to a List where politics and recipes are posted with
|| equal fervor as SQL Tuning tips. 
|| 
|| The water's fine!
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|| || Hello,
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|| || Just wanted to introduce myself before posting to the list.  
|| || I look forward
|| || to interacting with you guys/ladies on the list.  Have a 
|| || great Friday!
|| || 
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Bad SQL.....

2001-05-25 Thread Farnsworth, Dave

I am trying to write an update statement but seem to be having problems.
Below is my statement and the error in SQL*Plus.


  1  UPDATE AVAILABLE_POWER SET available_power.driver_terminated = 'Y'
  2WHERE available_power.driver_id = manpowerprofile.mpp_id
  3*and manpowerprofile.mpp_terminationdt 
TO_DATE('31-DEC-2049','DD-MON-')
SQL /
   and manpowerprofile.mpp_terminationdt 
TO_DATE('31-DEC-2049','DD-MON-')
   *
ERROR at line 3:
ORA-00904: invalid column name


I know that manpowerprofile.mpp_terminationdt is a valid table column.  Do I
need to do some type of join on these two tables?  Or is it just Friday and
I should give up and go have a cold beer!!:o)  Any advice would be
appreciated.

Thanks,

Dave
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RE: New member

2001-05-25 Thread Christopher Spence

Welcome over Chuck :)

Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen.

Christopher R. Spence
Oracle DBA
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Sounds great.  I am a Lazy DBA refugee and I must say that I like the tone
and banter on this list a lot better.  I'll be talking to you guys soon.
It's good to see familiar names like Chris Spence and Steve Adams, for they
are outlaws on other sites.  REAL TROUBLEMAKERS!

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RE: Steve Adam's Removal

2001-05-25 Thread Mohan, Ross

Are you suggesting a mailing list without 
Our Highly Esteemed Mr. Adams would be empty of content?

Hmmm.

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|| your brain to
|| spite the space between your ears?
|| 
|| Scott Shafer
|| San Antonio, TX
|| 210-581-6217
|| 
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|| certainty that in the middle of your Angry Crane stance, as 
|| you transition
|| to your Combative Monkey to administer the Coup de Grâce via 
|| your Ninja
|| Death Touch, you step on a beer bottle and fall backwards 
|| into the juke box
|| and get your head stove in by a drunk with a pool cue.  --Jay Trigg
|| 
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||  Adams from the lazydba discussion list and not this one ??
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Re: backspace in Oracle.

2001-05-25 Thread Thater, William

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On Fri, 25 May 2001,Ron Rogers scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:

-List,
- I have created a test server using Linux 7.1 and Oracle 8.1.7.3 and it w=
orks great. The major problem I am having is I am NOT a typist and make e=
rrors at the SQL prompt. What do I set or define in the glogin to allow bac=
kspace to work as a backspace in Oracle? It has been a while since I had th=
e privilege of UNIX ( in any flavor)
- Any info would be appreciated.
-Thanks,
-ROR m=AA=BF=AAm
-
-
depends on your keyboard but in general:

stty erase what ever your backspace key returns

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Telergy, Inc.[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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You gotta compile like you'll never get hurt,
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RE: Steve Adam's Removal

2001-05-25 Thread Mohammad Rafiq

Henry,
I am with all of our fellow DBA's requesting reconsideration of Steve Adams' 
removal from list.
Being a list member for couple of years , I found Steve Adam's replies
as one of the finest and most authentic on oracle subject. It looks that the 
matter is handled on personal account rather than professionally. I never 
saw Steve's reply as insulting or personal to anybody rather it looks his 
replies and advices like fatherly and helping a lot of DBA community 
experienced or newbi equally.

Besides, I was thinking that Jared Still is list owner so far

Have a nice long weekend to all.

Regards
Rafiq



Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 01:56:07 -0800

Dear Henry,

Please reconsider this issue !
I am sure there are many-many more who want to request not
to remove Steve and would support my mail, but are afraid
that other's mail-box would fill up by these request only..
To be frank  honest, he is the only list member who
has a folder in my outlook( I am not offending any-body
else)
Seriously ... please dont' do this

Best Regards,
Rajesh

-Original Message-
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 9:26 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


i hope this thread is still alive and my reply makes it to the
list...

by removing Steve from the list , we all will miss the insight into
oracle
internals,
which he provided , thru his answers and the links (plugs ? ) to his
website..

many threads would end when Steve provides his explanation/answer, this
show

the respect posters have for his knowledge or Oracle.

please reconsider

Regards
Rahul


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  From:Suhen Pather[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:Friday, May 25, 2001 6:36 AM
  To:  LazyDBA.com Discussion
  Subject: RE: Steve Adam's Removal
 
  Henry,  List
 
  I second you on this one.
  I respect Henry being the list owner, having authority to do as he
  pleases.
 
  ORACLE -L is possibly the best Oracle list out there,and has brought
so
  many
 
  Oracle professionals together, but lets not lose our experts.
 
  Please reconsider the removal of Steve Adams from the list.
 
  He takes up lots of his time to answer performance related questions
  posted by list members with precise actions to be taken and great
  explanations.
 
  He is an invaluable member to the Oracle world and his expertise,
  generosity
  will
  surely be missed if he removed.
 
  Kind Regards and pls reconsider
  Suhen
 
 
 
 
  List,
 
  While I respect Henry's authority as list owner to remove people from
the
  list, and the need to do so when people are breaking the rules, I
would
  like
  to protest the removal of Steve Adams.  He is one of the top experts
in
  Oracle internals in the world, and he was gracious enough to take time
to
  answer people's questions on the list.
 
  I am not sure what he ever did that was thought to be spamming, except
  answer people's questions.  He has a link to his website in his
signature,
  and often his answers were links to a place on his site where he had
  already
  answered that question.  I don't see what's wrong with that, none of
it
  seems to violate the rules of the list.
 
  If it was a matter of one or two people complaining about Steve's
posts,
  perhaps the list should have been asked.  I can only hope that the
  overwhelming majority understood Steve's method of answering questions
and
  were not annoyed with it.
 
  The show now knows a lot less about Oracle Internal Services.
 
  Reed Sutton
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Henry O'Keeffe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 8:58 AM
  To: LazyDBA.com Discussion
  Subject: Re: Spamming the list
 
 
  I'm afraid, you'll actually have to leave the list Steve. Picking
lines
  from
  private emails sent between us, and presenting them out of context
isn't
  something that most people would have expected from you. I'm sorry
that
  it's
  had to come to this.
 
  Indeed, the show will go on.
 
  Goodbye.
  Henry.
 
 
  
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RE: Fire your DBA's you don't need them anymore...

2001-05-25 Thread Thater, William

On Fri, 25 May 2001,Gary Weber scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:

-Very stupid thing to do by Oracle, considering the fact that many Oracle
-purchasing decisions are made by Oracle DBAs. To shut us out like that
-will most certainly have an effect on Oracle Sales. Hell, you don't need
-me anymore? I'll switch political sides and jump the ship to IBM, or
-gasp Microsoft...

however it's just the thing my damagement would like to hear.  guess i better get 
working on my resume.

--
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Telergy, Inc.[EMAIL PROTECTED]
~~
You gotta program like you don't need the money,
You gotta compile like you'll never get hurt,
You gotta run like there's nobody watching,
It's gotta come from the heart if you want it to work.
~~
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RE: OT: Winnie quote

2001-05-25 Thread DBarbour


Rachel,

They just had a party for you here in Austin.  If I'd known you were going
to be in town, I would have come by.


  
  
  
  
  
 Today is Eeyore's Birthday Party . . . It's time to DRESS UP THE 
 DOG! 
 Author: Date: 04-28-2001 Publication: The Austin 
 American-Statesman Page Number: D1 Word Count: 378 Size: 2K  
 Relevancy: 81
  
 38th annual Eeyore's Birthday Party When: 11 a.m. until dark 
 today Where: Pease Park (on North Lamar between Martin Luther
 King Boulevard and 15th Street) Parking: None; free shuttle  
 buses run from 10 a.m. to 8 p.m. from 16th Street and San
 Jacinto  
  
  


It's a pretty celebrated event around here.

David A. Barbour
Oracle DBA, OCP
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512-414-1002


   
   
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that's easy!  I'm Eeyore.

sometimes maybe I'm Christopher Robin, but I'm not really sure about that

From: Boivin, Patrice J [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OT: Winnie quote
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 06:00:31 -0800

Speaking of the Goddess, which Winnie the Pooh character does she
correspond
to?

: )

Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)


  -Original Message-
  From:  Thater, William [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:  Friday, May 25, 2001 10:37 AM
  To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  Subject:   Re: OT: Winnie quote

  On Thu, 24 May 2001,Campbell, James scribbled on the wall in
glitter
crayon:

  -If you live to be a hundred, I want to live to be a hundred
minus
one
  -day,so I never have to live without you. -- Winnie the Pooh
  -
  -Dear me, Bill, where on earth did you get that from?  I think
I
can hear
  -A.A. Milne revolving in his grave.

  off the web somewhere, and yes i am aware it's not the real pooh
having all the pooh books from christopher robin milne himself.  but i
like
it anyway.;-)  and i always was a contrary person.  just ask the
Goddess.;-)

  --
  Bill Thater Certifiable ORACLE DBA
  Telergy, Inc.[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ~~
  You gotta program like you don't need the money,
  You gotta compile like you'll never get hurt,
  You gotta run like there's nobody watching,
   

RE: Oracle Applications Suite CDs.

2001-05-25 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

FYI,

The Oracle Store only ships to the U.S. (NAFTA doesn't apply I guess.).

So I called the number provided on the link for Canada... was told this was
the wrong 1-800 number, they gave me another one with an extension.

I called this number, and was told this was the wrong extension, they
transferred me to someone else.

The applications rep for Canada didn't know what to do, this is the first
time apparently that someone wants to purchase the Oracle Applications CD
pack in this country.

???

They will call me back once they figure out what they are supposed to do.

I think that telling them this is for personal use because I'm curious threw
them into a loop.

: )

Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)


-Original Message-
From:   Sherman, Edward [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Thursday, May 24, 2001 5:03 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject:RE: Oracle Applications Suite CDs.

Get ready for some mystery meat web page navigation.

Go to http://www.oracle.com
Click on the Oracle Store Button
You should see a row of tabs near the top of the page.
Click on the Applications tab.
After the Applications tab is selected click on the CD Packs
link
(just under and to the left of the Applications tab).

Now you should see a list of Financial Applications products.
They are $39.95 each.

I'm gussing you want Oracle Applications 11i (You choose the OS).
You'll get a box of about 40 CDs. 

HTH
Ed



-Original Message-
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 2:52 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


I would like to know how to obtain a trial or developer version of
the
Oracle Applications Suite...

: )

Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

Systems Admin  Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes
Technology Services| Services technologiques
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OT: RE: Steve Adam's Removal

2001-05-25 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
Title: OT: RE: Steve Adam's Removal





Disclaimer: I have no affiliation with LazyDba or the owner of the LazyDba mailing list, and have not subscribed to that list.

My personal opinion, for what it's worth:
I don't think that this list is an appropriate place to impugn the motives of the owner(s), or discuss the inadequacies, of other mailing lists/personal websites, unless the question is posed to the list, e.g. Should I join lazydba?

In addition, I would think it would be more professional to restrict one's comments to the technical value of said website or list.

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Welcome !

2001-05-25 Thread Deshpande, Kirti

Welcome to Oracle-L !  Nice to have you here with the rest of us. 


- Kirti 

 -Original Message-
 From: Salman Faheem [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 11:31 AM
 To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject:  RE: Full user export
 
 a :(
 so you should welcome me 
 today is my first day 
 :)
 
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RE: Steve Adam's Removal

2001-05-25 Thread Christopher Spence


TGIF !!  
 
- Kirti 

It is never friday when you are working on the weekends to get a product
out.


Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen.

Christopher R. Spence
Oracle DBA
Fuelspot 



-Original Message-
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 1:08 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


According to a comment posted there, Rachel Carmichael is a spammer too !! 

Sure, Rachel The Spammer Goddess Carmichael, posts nothing but some junk
recipes  

(How about 'Cooking 101 for DBAs to go with your 'junk' recipes, Racheal?
Sounds like there will be a few takers ;)   

TGIF !!  
 
- Kirti 

 -Original Message-
 From: Hillman, Alex [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 11:10 AM
 To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject:  RE: Steve Adam's Removal
 
 What is the purpose of subscibing to Lazydba list at all?. I subscribed
 sometime ago and in several months unsubscribed. There are only couple of
 people who know what they are talking about and a lot of them on this
 list.
 Number of cluless questions tremendows etc. Again, my impressions from
 about
 a year ago. But I think nothing changed. However it would be intersting to
 read selected lines from Henry's e-mails which Steve picked up and and
 what
 was main Steve's sin. Of cource mentioning his website in his e-mail it is
 something uconsionable and unprovoked :-)
 Why would anybody do it when they already have www.lazydba.com - I don't
 understand it. 
 
 Alex Hillman
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 11:11 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Yeah, amoung the complaints I saw against me where.
 
 
 1.  I plugged my website (which I make no money, and provided for the
 benefit for others)
 2.  Two my emails were too long (I obviously spent too much time
 answering)
 3.  Someone would come back and there would be 30 emails from me
 (Obviously
 I answered too many questions)
 4.  I would just say i agree at times (I guess backing up someone's
 comment and basically saying I couldn't said it better and I would only
 repeat his answer to strengthen it).
 
 This is all after I left from hearing about Henry's plot.  Now someone on
 this list has already posted someone on the board saying I am only
 plugging
 my site, yet I have answered around 30 questions in less than 3 days.
 Granted I try to get people to look at my site so they may find something
 to
 help them.  Shame on me.
 The funniest thing is there is 1500 or so list members on the other list,
 30-50 of them post answers, 1450-1470 just post questions.  I have yet to
 see the 30-50 of the complain about the same issues or much of anything.  
 
 People don't understand it takes time to answer these emails and we have
 better things to do.  We do this because we want to help people, with all
 the barage of crap from people, it makes you want to just not bother.  
 
 As such, my site will be unavailable due to it's helpful nature.
 
 Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
 both are frozen.
 
 Christopher R. Spence
 Oracle DBA
 Fuelspot 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 10:17 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 I guess the lazy DBAs got tired of reading Oracle Internals.  They just
 want
 simple answers. :)
 
 Richard Ji
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/25/01 07:15AM 
 you're right -- Henry isn't the list owner here in any case.
 
 For those of you who want to discuss this, Henry set up a discussion forum
 
 on the lazydba site.
 
 AFAIK, Steve is still a member of Oracle-L :)
 
 
 From: Robertson Lee - lerobe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Steve Adam's Removal
 Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 02:16:06 -0800
 
 Erm... am I missing something but wasn't the original mail removing Steve
 Adams from the lazydba discussion list and not this one ??
 
 Cheers
 
 Lee
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: 25 May 2001 10:56
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Dear Henry,
 
  Please reconsider this issue !
 I am sure there are many-many more who want to request not
 to remove Steve and would support my mail, but are afraid
 that other's mail-box would fill up by these request only..
  To be frank  honest, he is the only list member who
 has a folder in my outlook( I am not offending any-body
 else)
  Seriously ... please dont' do this
 
 Best Regards,
 Rajesh
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 9:26 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 i hope this thread is still alive and my reply makes it to the
 list...
 
 by removing Steve from the list , we all will miss the insight into
 oracle
 internals,
 which he provided , thru his answers and the links (plugs ? ) to his
 website..
 
 many threads would end when Steve provides his explanation/answer, this
 

Re: Sessions are waiting on buffer busy wait with P3 value 130 in v$s

2001-05-25 Thread George Schlossnagle

Hi Steve,

A couple questions:  whihc p3 value is the value that indicates a need to
increase freelists?  Are there any plans to adapt your freeliusts estimation
script for tables for indexes as well, or pointers on how to do so (I think
I can do a direct port to work off dba_indexes, butparts of the logic aren't
clear to me, so I feel like that would be shooting in the dark.)

Thanks,

George

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 12:09 PM
v$s


 Hi Sri,

 If you can identify the segments involved from the p1 and p2 parameters
and put
 those segments into a KEEP buffer pool you should be able to get a lot of
 relief. Failing that, or if they are too big, consider either increasing
 db_block_buffers if you can or setting _db_percent_hot_default to
something like
 80. That would allow up to 80% of the DEFAULT buffer pool to be used for
hot
 buffers thereby improving the caching of the buffers that are causing you
to
 wait.

 @   Regards,
 @   Steve Adams
 @   http://www.ixora.com.au/
 @   http://www.christianity.net.au/


 -Original Message-
 Sent: Friday, 25 May 2001 9:26
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 v$s


 We've lot buffer busy waits in data block with P3 value 130 in V$session.

 I've read about this in few notes, but still I do not understand few
things.


 P3=130 means:
 -
 Block is being read by another session and no other
 suitable block image was found, so we wait until the read
 is completed. This may also occur after a buffer cache
 assumed deadlock. The kernel can't get a buffer in a
 certain amount of time and assumes a deadlock.
 Therefore it will read the CR version of the block.

 Does it mean that the block is being held in an incompatible mode by the
 first session or set of sessions reading it in shared mode, and current
 session is trying to lock it exclusively for a DML and waiting for the
same.


 What are steps we can take to avoid this types of buffer busy waits?

 Thanks for your help.
 Sri
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recommendations and Ideas for apps server

2001-05-25 Thread Ron Rogers

List,
 Upper Damagement is in the process of determining the requirements for an Application 
package and have asked me for information on hardware needs and expenses. There is an 
anticipated max users of 25. I do not know what parts of the application package that 
they want.

 Scenario 1. We use the Compaq ES40 server using Open VMS as the database server and 
purchase a front end server to run the applications on hitting the back-end database.

Scenario 2. We use the Compaq ES40 server running True64 as both the database and the 
Application server.

Depending on the scenario selected, what would be the recommended cpu speed, memory, 
and disk space needed. Raid 1 disks for the application package. The current ES40 
servers have a 250 GIG disk farm available.
Thanks,
ROR mª¿ªm

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RE: OT: Winnie quote

2001-05-25 Thread Scott . Shafer

How about:

Oh bother!, said Pooh, as the police closed in...

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And no amount of training or preparedness can eliminate the almost
certainty that in the middle of your Angry Crane stance, as you transition
to your Combative Monkey to administer the Coup de Grâce via your Ninja
Death Touch, you step on a beer bottle and fall backwards into the juke box
and get your head stove in by a drunk with a pool cue.  --Jay Trigg

 -Original Message-
 From: Thater, William [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 11:16 AM
 To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject:  Re: OT: Winnie quote
 
 On Fri, 25 May 2001,Dennis Taylor scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:
 
 -At 04:55 PM 5/24/01 -0800, you wrote:
 -
 -That 'quote' isn't from Pooh at all, it's probably from Walt @#$$^^@!
 -Disney.  The REAL Pooh is much wiser than that cheap greetings-card
 stuff!
 -
 -
 -Oh, bother.
 said Pooh,Eyore lock phasers on the Heffalump.  Piglet meet me in
 transporter room three.
 
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RE: Steve Adam's Removal

2001-05-25 Thread Donald Bricker

4) I agree

 Peddycoart, Judy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/25/01 11:02AM 
I agree with Raj; and, yes, I am one of those 1450 who lurk on the list,
not contributing much.  I'm still learning Oracle, and am in awe of those on
the list with so much knowledge!  I've been a DBA for many years (IMS and
DB2 before learning Oracle), and I've learned that you never know when
you're going to need a resource.  We all have delete keys, and hopefully
know how to use them!


-Original Message-
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 10:46 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Christopher

You have a nice site, why take it off. If 30 people complain, they have an
option not to click on the link. For every good thing there will be a lot
of bad things. I just feel sad that we lost a good resource on the net.
Please bring it back.

A request to everyone ... a mere mention of a website doesn't mean that
someone is pushing for a product, if you don't like it, don't visit the
site. Everyone has the choice ... why complain? It is same as using the
delete key for unwanted email.

On a lighter note, how many of us feel compelled to send an email every time
they see an email address?

Oh Well ... I'll go hide now ... the Politically Correct police is already
in the lobby ... and the only thing I can say is ' AM I STUPID? '

Just my thoughts ...
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Raj; and, yes, I am one of those 1450 who lurk on the list,BRnot 
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onBRthe list with so much knowledge!nbsp; I've been a DBA for many years (IMS 
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everyone ... a mere mention of a website doesn't mean thatBRsomeone is pushing 
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Re: backspace in Oracle.

2001-05-25 Thread Scott Canaan

stty erase ^H

The ^H is your backspace key.

Ron Rogers wrote:

 List,
  I have created a test server using Linux 7.1 and Oracle 8.1.7.3 and it works great. 
The major problem I am having is I am NOT a typist and make errors at the SQL 
prompt. What do I set or define in the glogin to allow backspace to work as a 
backspace in Oracle? It has been a while since I had the privilege of UNIX ( in any 
flavor)
  Any info would be appreciated.
 Thanks,
 ROR mª¿ªm

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OT RE: Steve Adam's Removal

2001-05-25 Thread Mohan, Ross

Please stop cross posting to Oracle-L.

The tempest is in the LazyDBA teapot, not
this one

Thanks!


|| -Original Message-
|| From: Mohammad Rafiq [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
|| Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 1:12 PM
|| To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
|| Subject: RE: Steve Adam's Removal
|| 
|| 
|| Henry,
|| I am with all of our fellow DBA's requesting reconsideration 
|| of Steve Adams' 
|| removal from list.
|| Being a list member for couple of years , I found Steve 
|| Adam's replies
|| as one of the finest and most authentic on oracle subject. 
|| It looks that the 
|| matter is handled on personal account rather than 
|| professionally. I never 
|| saw Steve's reply as insulting or personal to anybody rather 
|| it looks his 
|| replies and advices like fatherly and helping a lot of DBA community 
|| experienced or newbi equally.
|| 
|| Besides, I was thinking that Jared Still is list owner so far
|| 
|| Have a nice long weekend to all.
|| 
|| Regards
|| Rafiq
|| 
|| 
|| 
|| Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|| To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|| Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 01:56:07 -0800
|| 
|| Dear Henry,
|| 
||  Please reconsider this issue !
|| I am sure there are many-many more who want to request not
|| to remove Steve and would support my mail, but are afraid
|| that other's mail-box would fill up by these request only..
||  To be frank  honest, he is the only list member who
|| has a folder in my outlook( I am not offending any-body
|| else)
||  Seriously ... please dont' do this
|| 
|| Best Regards,
|| Rajesh
|| 
|| -Original Message-
|| Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 9:26 AM
|| To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
|| 
|| 
|| i hope this thread is still alive and my reply makes it to the
|| list...
|| 
|| by removing Steve from the list , we all will miss the insight into
|| oracle
|| internals,
|| which he provided , thru his answers and the links (plugs ? ) to his
|| website..
|| 
|| many threads would end when Steve provides his 
|| explanation/answer, this
|| show
|| 
|| the respect posters have for his knowledge or Oracle.
|| 
|| please reconsider
|| 
|| Regards
|| Rahul
|| 
|| 
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||   From: Suhen Pather[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
||   Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 6:36 AM
||   To:   LazyDBA.com Discussion
||   Subject:  RE: Steve Adam's Removal
||  
||   Henry,  List
||  
||   I second you on this one.
||   I respect Henry being the list owner, having authority to do as he
||   pleases.
||  
||   ORACLE -L is possibly the best Oracle list out there,and 
|| has brought
|| so
||   many
||  
||   Oracle professionals together, but lets not lose our experts.
||  
||   Please reconsider the removal of Steve Adams from the list.
||  
||   He takes up lots of his time to answer performance 
|| related questions
||   posted by list members with precise actions to be taken and great
||   explanations.
||  
||   He is an invaluable member to the Oracle world and his expertise,
||   generosity
||   will
||   surely be missed if he removed.
||  
||   Kind Regards and pls reconsider
||   Suhen
||  
||  
||  
||  
||   List,
||  
||   While I respect Henry's authority as list owner to remove 
|| people from
|| the
||   list, and the need to do so when people are breaking the rules, I
|| would
||   like
||   to protest the removal of Steve Adams.  He is one of the 
|| top experts
|| in
||   Oracle internals in the world, and he was gracious enough 
|| to take time
|| to
||   answer people's questions on the list.
||  
||   I am not sure what he ever did that was thought to be 
|| spamming, except
||   answer people's questions.  He has a link to his website in his
|| signature,
||   and often his answers were links to a place on his site 
|| where he had
||   already
||   answered that question.  I don't see what's wrong with 
|| that, none of
|| it
||   seems to violate the rules of the list.
||  
||   If it was a matter of one or two people complaining about Steve's
|| posts,
||   perhaps the list should have been asked.  I can only hope that the
||   overwhelming majority understood Steve's method of 
|| answering questions
|| and
||   were not annoyed with it.
||  
||   The show now knows a lot less about Oracle Internal Services.
||  
||   Reed Sutton
||  
||  
||  
||   -Original Message-
||   From: Henry O'Keeffe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
||   Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 8:58 AM
||   To: LazyDBA.com Discussion
||   Subject: Re: Spamming the list
||  
||  
||   I'm afraid, you'll actually have to leave the list Steve. Picking
|| lines
||   from
||   private emails sent between us, and presenting them out of context
|| isn't
||   something that most people would have expected from you. I'm sorry
|| that
||   it's
||   had to come to this.
||  
||   Indeed, the show will go on.
||  
||   Goodbye.
||   Henry.
||  
||  
||   
||   Oracle documentation is here:
||   

RE: OT: Winnie quote

2001-05-25 Thread Rachel Carmichael


but he's ORANGE!!!  At least Eeyore is a decent shade of blue :)

From: Thater, William [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Rachel Carmichael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: OT: Winnie quote
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 11:29:26 -0400

On Fri, 25 May 2001,Rachel Carmichael scribbled on the wall in glitter 
crayon:

-
-nah, Tigger bounces and has only a small brain... and he's ALWAYS 
happy

but he also pushes the envlope, does things because he wants to, and always 
manages to make them work.

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RE: backspace in Oracle.

2001-05-25 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

You'll have to define it in your profile using 

prompt stty erase press backspace key

(without the  and ) it is not something that can be set in glogin.sql.

HTH
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RE: Fire your DBA's you don't need them anymore...

2001-05-25 Thread Vergara, Michael (TEM)
Title: Fire your DBA's you don't need them anymore...



I can remember as far back as version 7.3 where Oracle 
was touting that
"you won't need a DBA for our new database". It 
hasn't happened yet, 
has it? Oh yes, it's easier, but we're still 
here!

And besides, what were they offering in the cold 
call? Replacing your
DBAs with their DBAs. At (probably) twice the 
price. Outsourcing Lives!

Just my $0.02 worth.

Mike

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  -Original Message-From: Gary Weber 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 9:27 
  AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  Fire your DBA's you don't need them anymore...
  Very 
  stupid thing to do by Oracle, considering the fact that many Oracle purchasing 
  decisions are made by Oracle DBAs. To shut us out like that will most 
  certainly have an effect on Oracle Sales. Hell, you don't need me anymore? 
  I'll switch political sides and jump the ship to IBM, or gasp 
  Microsoft...
  
  Far 
  as their "superior" i-dba team, I sure hope those are different people from 
  the ones you get on first line of Support...
  
  Gary 
  Weber
  
  PS. 
  Or maybe we should all become Oracle salesmen 
  (saleswomen)
  
  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bowes, ChrisSent: 
  Friday, May 25, 2001 12:02 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: Fire your DBA's you don't need them 
  anymore...
  My boss just received a cold call from Oracle that 
  he let me listen in on. They have a new push on for their i-dba support 
  package. For just a little more money (they did not define little), "we 
  will replace your dba's with our superior support team that will monitor your 
  database 24x7 and proactively eliminate problems. This will allow you to 
  redesign you office to offload these cumbersome DBA tasks and allow your 
  workers to do other things. You will never have another database 
  problem." I felt good when my boss indicated that we had no base 
  problems but based on this, I guess we will have to become sqlserver DBAs or 
  gasp developers... :)
  Ahh, Friday, wonderful Friday, it seems like 
  you've been away all week... 
  --Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


RE: Steve Adam's Removal

2001-05-25 Thread Deshpande, Kirti

According to a comment posted there, Rachel Carmichael is a spammer too !! 

Sure, Rachel The Spammer Goddess Carmichael, posts nothing but some junk
recipes  

(How about 'Cooking 101 for DBAs to go with your 'junk' recipes, Racheal?
Sounds like there will be a few takers ;)   

TGIF !!  
 
- Kirti 

 -Original Message-
 From: Hillman, Alex [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 11:10 AM
 To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject:  RE: Steve Adam's Removal
 
 What is the purpose of subscibing to Lazydba list at all?. I subscribed
 sometime ago and in several months unsubscribed. There are only couple of
 people who know what they are talking about and a lot of them on this
 list.
 Number of cluless questions tremendows etc. Again, my impressions from
 about
 a year ago. But I think nothing changed. However it would be intersting to
 read selected lines from Henry's e-mails which Steve picked up and and
 what
 was main Steve's sin. Of cource mentioning his website in his e-mail it is
 something uconsionable and unprovoked :-)
 Why would anybody do it when they already have www.lazydba.com - I don't
 understand it. 
 
 Alex Hillman
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 11:11 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Yeah, amoung the complaints I saw against me where.
 
 
 1.  I plugged my website (which I make no money, and provided for the
 benefit for others)
 2.  Two my emails were too long (I obviously spent too much time
 answering)
 3.  Someone would come back and there would be 30 emails from me
 (Obviously
 I answered too many questions)
 4.  I would just say i agree at times (I guess backing up someone's
 comment and basically saying I couldn't said it better and I would only
 repeat his answer to strengthen it).
 
 This is all after I left from hearing about Henry's plot.  Now someone on
 this list has already posted someone on the board saying I am only
 plugging
 my site, yet I have answered around 30 questions in less than 3 days.
 Granted I try to get people to look at my site so they may find something
 to
 help them.  Shame on me.
 The funniest thing is there is 1500 or so list members on the other list,
 30-50 of them post answers, 1450-1470 just post questions.  I have yet to
 see the 30-50 of the complain about the same issues or much of anything.  
 
 People don't understand it takes time to answer these emails and we have
 better things to do.  We do this because we want to help people, with all
 the barage of crap from people, it makes you want to just not bother.  
 
 As such, my site will be unavailable due to it's helpful nature.
 
 Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
 both are frozen.
 
 Christopher R. Spence
 Oracle DBA
 Fuelspot 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 10:17 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 I guess the lazy DBAs got tired of reading Oracle Internals.  They just
 want
 simple answers. :)
 
 Richard Ji
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/25/01 07:15AM 
 you're right -- Henry isn't the list owner here in any case.
 
 For those of you who want to discuss this, Henry set up a discussion forum
 
 on the lazydba site.
 
 AFAIK, Steve is still a member of Oracle-L :)
 
 
 From: Robertson Lee - lerobe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Steve Adam's Removal
 Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 02:16:06 -0800
 
 Erm... am I missing something but wasn't the original mail removing Steve
 Adams from the lazydba discussion list and not this one ??
 
 Cheers
 
 Lee
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: 25 May 2001 10:56
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Dear Henry,
 
  Please reconsider this issue !
 I am sure there are many-many more who want to request not
 to remove Steve and would support my mail, but are afraid
 that other's mail-box would fill up by these request only..
  To be frank  honest, he is the only list member who
 has a folder in my outlook( I am not offending any-body
 else)
  Seriously ... please dont' do this
 
 Best Regards,
 Rajesh
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 9:26 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 i hope this thread is still alive and my reply makes it to the
 list...
 
 by removing Steve from the list , we all will miss the insight into
 oracle
 internals,
 which he provided , thru his answers and the links (plugs ? ) to his
 website..
 
 many threads would end when Steve provides his explanation/answer, this
 show
 
 the respect posters have for his knowledge or Oracle.
 
 please reconsider
 
 Regards
 Rahul
 
 
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   From: Suhen Pather[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
   Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 6:36 AM
   To:   LazyDBA.com Discussion
   Subject:  RE: Steve Adam's Removal
  
   Henry,  List
  
   I second you on this one.
   I 

how to turn off password prompt in NT???

2001-05-25 Thread Janet Linsy

Hi all,

In Windows NT, how to disable the password prompt when
login as internal through svrmgrl.

I read an article in Metalink.  The solution is for
Unix which I don't see useful to my case.  

I checked all the sqlnet.ora files and all of them
comment out SQLNET.AUTHENTICATION_SERVICES.

Suggestion?

Thanks, Janet


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