Re: Instance down

2001-07-24 Thread Christian Trassens

.or are you trying to put it offline ?. Issue an
dbv of each datafile. In any case you should open a
tar with Support. It is probably an bug. Tell me
whether or not you solve it and the bug number.

Regards.


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 I know it maybe a little latebut: are you
 trying
 to put tablespace read only ?.
 
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Re: Temp problem

2001-07-24 Thread Christian Trassens

Increase the ulimit of oracle or the user running the
query or transaction that received the error.

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 I had following error in my alert log file, Any
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 Mine is AIX ,oracle7.
 
 Mon Jul 23 08:53:43 2001
 Errors in file

/software/app/oracle/admin/baanIV/udump/ora_96526.trc:
 ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [3509],
 [2], [], [], [], [], [], 
 []
 ORA-01114: IO error writing block to file 166 (block
 # 134552)
 ORA-07376: sfwfb: write error, unable to write
 database block.
 IBM AIX RISC System/6000 Error: 27: File too large
 Additional information: 134552
 
 TIA
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RE: Lock

2001-07-24 Thread GL2Z/ INF DBA BENLATRECHE

If I am not wrong you can use a SELECT  FOR UPDATE

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hi all,

Aay body know, how you can control the lock during the sql code.
eg select a,b,c from tablea with NO LOCK.
how you can control the locking.

thanks in advance all of you

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Lawson and Staffware running on Oracle?

2001-07-24 Thread Clinton Naude



Hi 
all.

Does anyone out 
there know of any issues running on Oracle 8.1.7, which in turn runs on a Unix 
box (Solaris version 8)?
The box will 
probably be a 3800 or a 4800 (still to be purchased)
Info on issues such 
as sizing, security, tuning etc would be of great help or even any known 
problems.

Thanks
Clint


RE: The number of used cursors?

2001-07-24 Thread Szecsy Tamas

Thank you for the anwers.

If I try Jon's version I get a big number that does not seem to be related
to the number of maximum open cursors ( it's much higher). 

If I query the V$SQL_CURSOR view, then I get a number the could be the value
I look for.

Could some one shed some light on this?

Regards

Tamas Szecsy

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Try this:

select sum(value) as open_cursors
  from sys.v_$sesstat s
 , sys.v_$statname n
 where s.statistic# = n.statistic#
   and n.name = 'opened cursors current';

Jon Walthour

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Hi,

I would like to know the the number of used cursors at any given
time. Is
there a select statement that does this for me?  I would like
to decide if
the growing number of concurent users for a given database has
reached the
point where the maximum open cursor init ora parameter got to
be increased.

Thank you in advance.

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constraint naming

2001-07-24 Thread Guy Hammond

O Wise and Powerful Oracle:

Is there a way to change thy system-generated names for foreign key
constraints to something sensible without invoking Deep Magic?

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RE: Lock

2001-07-24 Thread Mark Leith

I think the only way to not acquire a row level lock, is to use one of the
fabled Undocumented Parameters (if this is what you mean of course). I do
have to say that using this kind of parameter without the backing of OWS, is
not advisable, and therefore, will refrain from telling you which one it is
:)

If you mean table locking, then the simple select you have shown below also
will hold no locks, as this is simply a select statement.

List correct me if I'm wrong..

HTH

Mark

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hi all,

Aay body know, how you can control the lock during the sql code.
eg select a,b,c from tablea with NO LOCK.
how you can control the locking.

thanks in advance all of you

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Re: weird recursive sql

2001-07-24 Thread Christian Trassens

That recursive stmt hasn't to be involved with the
stmt beneath. However, are you using private synonyms
or do you have a lot of tables and objects ?. Why
don't you look at gets and misses in the v$rowcache ?.
Are you suffering of row cache lock wait ?. Are you on
8.1.X ?, do you know the thing about setting
_sqlexec_progression_cost=0 ?. If you don't, read the
note 68955.1.

Regards.

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 I'm expereinceing a weird problem.
 
 I have a tabl whihcis basically a collection of
 counters (NAME VARCHAR2, COUNTER NUMBER).  For
 various reasons that are unimportant in this context
 the tables work by atempting an insert on (NAME, 1)
 and if that fails they do an update COUNTER =
 COUNTER +!;  This has been running fine for 3 years.
  Suddenly in the past 3 weeks I have been seeing
 performance problems and the sudden appearance of
 some (apprently) constraint checking recursive sql
 whihc is in direct proportionto the inserts.  This
 recursive sql was never in the sqlarea previously. 
 The lines look like:
 
 select executions, sqltext from v$sqlarea;
 
 166092573 INSERT INTO HITCOUNTER (
 ALIAS,USEHITCOUNTER,HITS )  VALUES ( :b1,1,0  )
 165799528 select c.name, u.name from con$ c, cdef$
 cd, user$ u  where c.con# = cd.con# and cd.enabled =
 :1 and c.owner# = u.user#
 
 
 Further if I do:
 
 desc v$session;
 select sql_text from v$sqlarea sq, v$session se
 where prev_sql_addr = 'AA46049C' and prev_hash_value
 = '1318728909'
 and sql_address = sq.address and sql_hash_value =
 sq.hash_value;
 
 (that sql_address and hsah_value are for the insert
 statement above) I frequently (though not
 exclusively the recursive sql)
 
 I am always returned either no rows or that
 recursive sql statement (and these are not the most
 executed statements in the db either (they are 10th
 and 11th respectively, and any session is equally
 likely to run any of the the top 20 executed
 queries, in any pairings), so I would expect to see
 others if this was just a coincidence.
 
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 basically no luck, and I have an open Tar which is
 getting no response.  has anyone seen anything
 similair?  Any clues, thoughts, etc?
 
 
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No Subject

2001-07-24 Thread Raymond Lee Meng Hong

SET ORACLE-L DIGEST 

Raymond fall asleep in waiting for the Q.

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Re: constraint naming

2001-07-24 Thread A. Bardeen

Guy,

Per bug 15148 this is scheduled for 9.0.2.

I don't know of any supported method of doing this,
other than dropping and recreating the constraint.

HTH,

-- Anita

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Starting Oracle services remotely (Win2K).

2001-07-24 Thread Mark Leith

Hi all,

Has anybody come across a way of starting the Oracle services (or indeed any
service) on a Win2K box remotely from another Win2K machine?

I would be interested in your insight if you have..

Cheers

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Re: The number of used cursors?

2001-07-24 Thread Jon Walthour

Tamas:

I've done some looking into this issue and I think it depends on what you
want when you say want to know the number of used cursors. If you mean
those that have been opened AND parsed, then a count from v$open_cursor will
give you that (for the most part). If, however, you want to know the number
of dynamic cursors that have been opened (parsed or not), then the statistic
'opened cursors current' will give you that number. Keep in mind, too, that
a row in v$open_cursor does not necessarily mean that the cursor is open and
in use. For performance reasons, cursors are not closed, but cancelled.
This allows most system resources to be released while still allowing the
cursor to be reused if need be. There is currently no view that ill provide
this information as to how many cursors are really open and in use (i.e.,
open and not cancelled).

Hope this helps.

Jon Walthour

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 Thank you for the anwers.

 If I try Jon's version I get a big number that does not seem to be related
 to the number of maximum open cursors ( it's much higher).

 If I query the V$SQL_CURSOR view, then I get a number the could be the
value
 I look for.

 Could some one shed some light on this?

 Regards

 Tamas Szecsy

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 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L




 Try this:

 select sum(value) as open_cursors
   from sys.v_$sesstat s
  , sys.v_$statname n
  where s.statistic# = n.statistic#
and n.name = 'opened cursors current';

 Jon Walthour

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 Date: 7/23/01 9:55:24 AM
 

 Hi,
 
 I would like to know the the number of used cursors at any given
 time. Is
 there a select statement that does this for me?  I would like
 to decide if
 the growing number of concurent users for a given database has
 reached the
 point where the maximum open cursor init ora parameter got to
 be increased.
 
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Question on on delete cascade functionality

2001-07-24 Thread Ranganath K

Dear DBA Gurus,
How to add the functionality of on delete cascade to an existing foreign
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Re: Starting Oracle services remotely (Win2K).

2001-07-24 Thread Peter McLarty

Hi
rexec servername -l username -- net start oracle should do it.
Or you can use graphical tools through the admin tools and install the snapins

=
rexec computer [-l username] [-n] command


Net start
Starts a service, or displays a list of started services. Service names of 
two or more words, such as Net Logon or Computer Browser, must be enclosed 
in quotation marks ().
net start [service]
Parameters
none
Type net start without parameters to display a list of running services.

At 09:05 PM 24/07/2001, you wrote:
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Has anybody come across a way of starting the Oracle services (or indeed any
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I would be interested in your insight if you have..

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Re: constraint naming

2001-07-24 Thread Stephane Faroult

Guy Hammond wrote:
 
 O Wise and Powerful Oracle:
 
 Is there a way to change thy system-generated names for foreign key
 constraints to something sensible without invoking Deep Magic?
 
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Foreign key you say? I think that for them updating sys.con$ should be
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used. If I where you I would export with ROWS=N, reimport into a test
database, fiddle in the dictionary, export the result with ROWS=N again,
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RE: Starting Oracle services remotely (Win2K).

2001-07-24 Thread BELOV

Hi, Mark

Why not to use a Terminal Services (which comes on Win2k's Installation CD)
for this purpose? Install TS on a needed box, then install client software
on your own machine and go on...

Igor

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Re: Starting Oracle services remotely (Win2K).

2001-07-24 Thread Jon Walthour

Add the computer in the MMC (Microsoft Management Console) and then you can
control whatever you want (if you're an Administrator).

Jon Walthour

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 Has anybody come across a way of starting the Oracle services (or indeed
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Re: Question on on delete cascade functionality

2001-07-24 Thread Joe Testa

sounds like a trigger is needed.

joe
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Re: The number of used cursors?

2001-07-24 Thread Angel Munte Salvador

Hi Tamas,

V$SQL_CURSOR is providing the number of cursors for the querying session, 
but Jon's query, give the current opened cursors for all session. If you 
restrict v$sesstat to the sid of your session and v$sql_cursor to status 
not 'CURNULL', you will get the same number. That's:

  select value as open_cursors
   from sys.v_$sesstat s
  , sys.v_$statname n
  where s.statistic# = n.statistic
 and n.name = 'opened cursors current'
 and s.sid=your_sid;

is the same that querying

select count(*)
   from v$sql_cursor
  where status != 'CURNULL';

HTH
Àngel

At 03.15 24/7/01 -0800, you wrote:
Tamas:

I've done some looking into this issue and I think it depends on what you
want when you say want to know the number of used cursors. If you mean
those that have been opened AND parsed, then a count from v$open_cursor will
give you that (for the most part). If, however, you want to know the number
of dynamic cursors that have been opened (parsed or not), then the statistic
'opened cursors current' will give you that number. Keep in mind, too, that
a row in v$open_cursor does not necessarily mean that the cursor is open and
in use. For performance reasons, cursors are not closed, but cancelled.
This allows most system resources to be released while still allowing the
cursor to be reused if need be. There is currently no view that ill provide
this information as to how many cursors are really open and in use (i.e.,
open and not cancelled).

Hope this helps.

Jon Walthour

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  Thank you for the anwers.
 
  If I try Jon's version I get a big number that does not seem to be related
  to the number of maximum open cursors ( it's much higher).
 
  If I query the V$SQL_CURSOR view, then I get a number the could be the
value
  I look for.
 
  Could some one shed some light on this?
 
  Regards
 
  Tamas Szecsy
 
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  Try this:
 
  select sum(value) as open_cursors
from sys.v_$sesstat s
   , sys.v_$statname n
   where s.statistic# = n.statistic#
 and n.name = 'opened cursors current';
 
  Jon Walthour
 
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  Hi,
  
  I would like to know the the number of used cursors at any given
  time. Is
  there a select statement that does this for me?  I would like
  to decide if
  the growing number of concurent users for a given database has
  reached the
  point where the maximum open cursor init ora parameter got to
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  Thank you in advance.
  
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IAS-Apache and PHP

2001-07-24 Thread DEMANCHE Luc (Cetelem)
Title: IAS-Apache and PHP





Hi gurus, 
Has anyone tried to include a PHP module to Apache in IAS ?
Does Oracle support it? 
We have some PL/SQL applications (drive by OAS) that we need to migrate to IAS. We have some other new applications in PHP. Do we have to maintain two Apaches (one in IAS plus one for the PHP application) ?

TIA
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RE: How to download website

2001-07-24 Thread Guy Hammond

Use wget. You can get it, along with a bunch of other good stuff,
here:

http://www.weihenstephan.de/~syring/win32/UnxUtils.html

g


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hi dba's 

is there anyway to download complete website including
links in a single shot.

i got this problem, when i need to copy many html
pages, that are linked to a single site.

if i need to copy them, i hv to open every file and
have to say save from windows.

so can anybody tell me easy way of finishing my task.

i need to copy 500 pages from that site.

thanx in advance
prasad

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Sun cluster vs Veritas cluster

2001-07-24 Thread KC




List,

Just wondering if anyone on the list who had 
experience on both Sun clustering and Veritas clustering software share their 
experience on both products, strength and weakness or any 
comparison??

KC


Re: Question on on delete cascade functionality

2001-07-24 Thread William Beilstein

While a ON DELETE trigger would do what you want, why don't you want to rebuild the 
constraint?

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/24/01 08:05AM 
sounds like a trigger is needed.

joe
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retrieving BLOB column..

2001-07-24 Thread Saurabh Sharma



hi all,

do any one tell me how can i retrieve 
from a blob column. these will be displayed in browser through asp 
page.
r there any functions used to 
retrieved records(jpg files, gif) from a blob.

Saurabh Sharma

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Re: IAS-Apache and PHP

2001-07-24 Thread G . Plivna


I'm not an expert in this area but I do know that we haven't two apaches
ie. our administrator installed Oracle and IAS and then added PHP module
and this WASN'T very painful process ;)
How? I don't know :(

Oracle 8.1.7 on red hat linux 6.2

Gints Plivna



   
  
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Hi gurus,
Has anyone tried to include a PHP module to Apache in IAS ?
Does Oracle support it?
We have some PL/SQL applications (drive by OAS) that we need to migrate to
IAS. We have some other new applications in PHP. Do we have to maintain two
Apaches (one in IAS plus one for the PHP application) ?


TIA
Luc





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Solaris 8 and 9i

2001-07-24 Thread Rusnak, George A.

List, 
Just wondering if anyone on the list has the combination of Solaris 8 and 9i
loaded. Strength and weakness on both products or any comparison??
Currently running Solaris 5.7 and Oracle 8.1.7. My SA wants to go to Solaris
8 and I was thinking about going to 9i on our development box when we
upgrade.

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Re: constraint naming

2001-07-24 Thread Ron Rogers

g,
Why use system generated FK names. does SYS12345 maen any thing to you? We always 
generate our FK with an ALTER TABLE command and name the FK with something that can be 
recognized. Very usefull when you have to drop the FK to accomplish an import of data.
ROR mª¿ªm

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Is there a way to change thy system-generated names for foreign key
constraints to something sensible without invoking Deep Magic?

g


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urgent synthax of DBV

2001-07-24 Thread Djaroud Salim

i need in urgence DBV synthax

thanks !!!
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template for description of Oracle installation

2001-07-24 Thread sh.476622 sh476622

I'am searching for a template of a good looking description of an Oracle installation.

Can anybody help me ?

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RE: urgent synthax of DBV

2001-07-24 Thread Deshpande, Kirti

Try dbv help=y 
Or click here :
http://otn.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle8i/doc_library/817_doc/server.817/
a76955/ch09.htm#1936

(found by searching for 'dbv' at
http://tahiti.oracle.com/pls/tahiti/tahiti.homepage  :) 

HTH,

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waits on sequential scans - how did i solve it

2001-07-24 Thread Rahul

list, based on the recommendation of posters (Jack) ,
i re-created the index with all the columns of a table ! (all 8 of them) 
analyzed the table/index and now all the queries are satisfied off an
indexed 
range scan..

i also put the indexes on raw devices. 

regards


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 Rahul,
 
 Could this table be partitioned and the partitions spread across multiple
 disks?  Could the index be partitioned as well?  The concept here is, of
 course, divide and conquer.
 
 Could a column or two (or three) be added to the index to satisfy the
 query
 without having to hit the table?
 
 How frequently are these literal queries being issued?  Are they shredding
 your shared pool and chewing up CPU by making Oracle do extra work in
 shared
 pool memory management?
 
 Are there aggregation (vs aggravation g) functions or order bys in the
 queries that might be causing sorts to disk?  If aggregation, could you
 use
 materialized views to satisfy the queries?
 
 ...just a few ideas.
 
 Jack
 
 
 Jack C. Applewhite
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 list (AIX, 7.3.2)
 
 5 clients are shooting the same sql to read data from an 18 million rows
 table.
 each time the sql uses a different literal value in the where clause... no
 bind variables.
 
 I CANNOT TOUCH THE APPLICATION, and have been given the task to
 re-configure
 the
 DB to increase performance.
 
 i have moved the table and it;s associated index to separate disks. and
 iostat show that
 only that only those two disks are being read.
 
 the session wait show that all the times the sessions are waiting on
 db file sequential read
 
 the db file being sequentially read in the above sessiion is the TABLE
 from
 which
 all the sid's are reading
 
 the table is analyzed and the sql's issued use the index.
 
 how can i further tune this config. ?
 
 TIA
 
 Rahul
 
 PS: my next step is to put the files on raw disks.
 
 
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RE: Solaris 8 and 9i

2001-07-24 Thread Christopher Spence

I have solaris 8 and oracle 9i on my home development box.  9i is awesome,
but it is also very immature.
Solaris 8 has many new features and definitely worth the upgrade.  Make sure
you get 04/01 or newer.

Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen.

Christopher R. Spence
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List, 
Just wondering if anyone on the list has the combination of Solaris 8 and 9i
loaded. Strength and weakness on both products or any comparison?? Currently
running Solaris 5.7 and Oracle 8.1.7. My SA wants to go to Solaris 8 and I
was thinking about going to 9i on our development box when we upgrade.

TIA

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RE: Solaris 8 and 9i

2001-07-24 Thread Deshpande, Kirti

 but it is also very immature.

For example   

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 I have solaris 8 and oracle 9i on my home development box.  9i is awesome,
 but it is also very immature.
 Solaris 8 has many new features and definitely worth the upgrade.  Make
 sure
 you get 04/01 or newer.
 
 Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
 both are frozen.
 
 Christopher R. Spence
 Oracle DBA
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 List, 
 Just wondering if anyone on the list has the combination of Solaris 8 and
 9i
 loaded. Strength and weakness on both products or any comparison??
 Currently
 running Solaris 5.7 and Oracle 8.1.7. My SA wants to go to Solaris 8 and I
 was thinking about going to 9i on our development box when we upgrade.
 
 TIA
 
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RE: Starting Oracle services remotely (Win2K). - Thanks

2001-07-24 Thread Mark Leith

Thanks to Peter, Igor and of course Jon.

It's easy when you know how huh - I used Computer Management in the Admin
tools, and simply used the Action of connecting to another computer..

Cheers for your help.

Mark

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Add the computer in the MMC (Microsoft Management Console) and then you can
control whatever you want (if you're an Administrator).

Jon Walthour

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 Hi all,

 Has anybody come across a way of starting the Oracle services (or indeed
any
 service) on a Win2K box remotely from another Win2K machine?

 I would be interested in your insight if you have..

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RE: Input truncated

2001-07-24 Thread Nicoll, Iain (Calanais)

Just do a carriage return at the end of the last line.  The last line will
be 35 characters long.

Iain 

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I don't know why when I try to load error_p1 procedure it's printed Input
truncated to 35 characters.

SQL @error_p1

Procedure created.

Input truncated to 35 characters
No errors.

Can anybody help me ?

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Andrea
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Input truncated

2001-07-24 Thread Quaglio Andrea

I don't know why when I try to load error_p1 procedure it's printed Input
truncated to 35 characters.

SQL @error_p1

Procedure created.

Input truncated to 35 characters
No errors.

Can anybody help me ?

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RE: Off Topic: For Sale Sparc 5 170MHz capable of running 9i

2001-07-24 Thread Mark Leith

Thanks Guy!

Mark

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Mark, you can get cheap Sun kit in the UK from here:
http://213.48.204.69/main/sun.htm

g



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Christopher,

What would the total cost be for an upgrade to 256Mb RAM, and a 10 gig
disk?
Same for 512Mb RAM.

Then of course there would be the cost of shipping it to the UK..

We are looking for a low range test box at the moment..

Cheers

Mark



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If anyone is interested in a cheap machine to start playing with 9i
with.  I
just got a lot of 100 Sparc 5's.

Standard configuration is:

HyperSparc 170MHz
64Mb Ram
Internal CDROM and Floppy
Turbo GX Video (13W Connector)
2Gb SCSI Hard Drive

I am putting them on ebay at $225 each.  Which is less than they
normally go
for, but I just want to get rid of this shipment so I can get this lot
of
Blade 1000's.

To run Oracle 9i, I would recommend increasing the ram and disk.  Which
we
have both.

Sorry about the off topic, I know a few people mentioned they were
looking
for some machines.
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Reproduce ORA-0600

2001-07-24 Thread Smith, Ron L.

I had a production database become corrupt after an ORA-07445 and an
ORA-0600 occurred.  The instance would not come back up and had to be
recovered.  I can reproduce and correct the ORA-07445 (bad block) but it
doesn't create the ORA-0600 or corrupt the database.  I have tried adding
rows, deleting rows, reading by the index by requesting all columns in the
index, updating all columns in the index.  Nothing seems to work.  Any ideas
on how I can reproduce the error?

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RE: retrieving BLOB column..

2001-07-24 Thread Jack C. Applewhite



Saurabh,

Check out the DBMS_LOB package. There are lots of 
procedures and functions for manipulating BLOBs and 
CLOBs.

Jack
Jack C. 
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  ORACLE-LSubject: retrieving BLOB column..
  hi all,
  
  do any one tell me how can i 
  retrieve from a blob column. these will be displayed in browser through asp 
  page.
  r there any functions used to 
  retrieved records(jpg files, gif) from a blob.
  
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RE: waits on sequential scans - how did i solve it

2001-07-24 Thread Jack C. Applewhite

Rahul,

If I'd known that there were only 8 columns in the table, I'd have included
the recommendation to investigate an Index-Organized Table.  That is where
the table IS the index and the index IS the table.  This saves disc space
and cuts I/O in half for DML on the table, since a separate index is not
maintained.  Check out the docs on IOTs.

Jack


Jack C. Applewhite
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list, based on the recommendation of posters (Jack) ,
i re-created the index with all the columns of a table ! (all 8 of them)
analyzed the table/index and now all the queries are satisfied off an
indexed
range scan..

i also put the indexes on raw devices.

regards


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 From: Jack C. Applewhite[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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 Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 8:25 PM
 To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject:  RE: how to improve sequential scans ?

 Rahul,

 Could this table be partitioned and the partitions spread across multiple
 disks?  Could the index be partitioned as well?  The concept here is, of
 course, divide and conquer.

 Could a column or two (or three) be added to the index to satisfy the
 query
 without having to hit the table?

 How frequently are these literal queries being issued?  Are they shredding
 your shared pool and chewing up CPU by making Oracle do extra work in
 shared
 pool memory management?

 Are there aggregation (vs aggravation g) functions or order bys in the
 queries that might be causing sorts to disk?  If aggregation, could you
 use
 materialized views to satisfy the queries?

 ...just a few ideas.

 Jack

 
 Jack C. Applewhite
 Database Administrator/Developer
 OCP Oracle8 DBA
 iNetProfit, Inc.
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 www.iNetProfit.com
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 list (AIX, 7.3.2)

 5 clients are shooting the same sql to read data from an 18 million rows
 table.
 each time the sql uses a different literal value in the where clause... no
 bind variables.

 I CANNOT TOUCH THE APPLICATION, and have been given the task to
 re-configure
 the
 DB to increase performance.

 i have moved the table and it;s associated index to separate disks. and
 iostat show that
 only that only those two disks are being read.

 the session wait show that all the times the sessions are waiting on
 db file sequential read

 the db file being sequentially read in the above sessiion is the TABLE
 from
 which
 all the sid's are reading

 the table is analyzed and the sql's issued use the index.

 how can i further tune this config. ?

 TIA

 Rahul

 PS: my next step is to put the files on raw disks.


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RMAN duplicate database query

2001-07-24 Thread Hallas John
Title: RMAN duplicate database query





Hello listers,


We have a instance on server A, a RMAN recovery catalogue on server B and a 3rd server C where we want to create a copy of the live database with a new sid.

This is on Oracle 8.1.7 
The RMAN duplicate command seems to be the one to use but there is one hing I cannot understand.


All the documentation (and I have RTFM until my head hurts) suggests that the run script needs to make 3 connections (target - server A, rcat - server B and new instance server C). 

I do not know why we need to connect to the target sid (server A) at all. We don't want a synchronised duplicate at all but from midnight last night (or 3 days ago is fine). Therefore the rcat should all the information it requires. Furthermore we don't have remote_login_passwordfile created on server A and we don't really want to .

As part of the testing we tried setting the dbid to the name of the instance we want but it still seems to expect the connection to server A.

Anyone have any experience in this area that could help me.




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Re: Solaris 8 and 9i

2001-07-24 Thread Ray Stell

On Tue, Jul 24, 2001 at 05:25:29AM -0800, Rusnak, George A. wrote:
 List, 
 Just wondering if anyone on the list has the combination of Solaris 8 and 9i
 loaded. Strength and weakness on both products or any comparison??
 Currently running Solaris 5.7 and Oracle 8.1.7. My SA wants to go to Solaris
 8 and I was thinking about going to 9i on our development box when we
 upgrade.
-- 

This would be a good idea if it works or there is no liability.

If there is liability and there are problems, will the spotlight 
be on you or the sa?  I suppose if you can point at the sa faster 
than he can point at you then, no prob.  Kinda like the ol' wild
West.   

On the other hand, you might get a medal for bringing some duhvelopers 
to a standstill. ;)
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Re: HELP

2001-07-24 Thread Thater, William

Norrell, Brian wrote:
 
 No one will be watching us,
 Why don't we do it in the code?

i think we can code now...


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RE: Input truncated

2001-07-24 Thread Jon Walthour



Andrea:

Open up your .sql file in notepad or the like and put a carriage
return after the last line so you, in effect, have a final blank
line.

Jon Walthour

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I don't know why when I try to load error_p1 procedure it's
printed Input
truncated to 35 characters.

   SQL @error_p1

   Procedure created.

   Input truncated to 35 characters
   No errors.

Can anybody help me ?

Thanks,
Andrea
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RE: Input truncated

2001-07-24 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Title: RE: Input truncated





Andrea, put a carriage return after your last slash and this will go away. It's harmless.


Lisa Koivu
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I don't know why when I try to load error_p1 procedure it's printed Input
truncated to 35 characters.


 SQL @error_p1


 Procedure created.


 Input truncated to 35 characters
 No errors.


Can anybody help me ?


Thanks,
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RE: Input truncated

2001-07-24 Thread Cale, Rick T (Richard)

In your pl/sql script add a carriage return after /

Rick

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I don't know why when I try to load error_p1 procedure it's printed Input
truncated to 35 characters.

SQL @error_p1

Procedure created.

Input truncated to 35 characters
No errors.

Can anybody help me ?

Thanks,
Andrea
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RE: Input truncated

2001-07-24 Thread Vadim Gorbounov

Hi, Andrea ,
Nothing to worry about. If you want to get rid of this message, remove blank
lines after procedure code.
HTH
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I don't know why when I try to load error_p1 procedure it's printed Input
truncated to 35 characters.

SQL @error_p1

Procedure created.

Input truncated to 35 characters
No errors.

Can anybody help me ?

Thanks,
Andrea
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RE: waits on sequential scans - how did i solve it

2001-07-24 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: waits on sequential scans - how did i solve it





Is this table/index now suitable to be a IOT, it will certainly save some space on an 18M row table


John


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Subject: waits on sequential scans - how did i solve it



list, based on the recommendation of posters (Jack) ,
i re-created the index with all the columns of a table ! (all 8 of them) 
analyzed the table/index and now all the queries are satisfied off an
indexed 
range scan..


i also put the indexes on raw devices. 


regards



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 Subject:  RE: how to improve sequential scans ?
 
 Rahul,
 
 Could this table be partitioned and the partitions spread across multiple
 disks? Could the index be partitioned as well? The concept here is, of
 course, divide and conquer.
 
 Could a column or two (or three) be added to the index to satisfy the
 query
 without having to hit the table?
 
 How frequently are these literal queries being issued? Are they shredding
 your shared pool and chewing up CPU by making Oracle do extra work in
 shared
 pool memory management?
 
 Are there aggregation (vs aggravation g) functions or order bys in the
 queries that might be causing sorts to disk? If aggregation, could you
 use
 materialized views to satisfy the queries?
 
 ...just a few ideas.
 
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 list (AIX, 7.3.2)
 
 5 clients are shooting the same sql to read data from an 18 million rows
 table.
 each time the sql uses a different literal value in the where clause... no
 bind variables.
 
 I CANNOT TOUCH THE APPLICATION, and have been given the task to
 re-configure
 the
 DB to increase performance.
 
 i have moved the table and it;s associated index to separate disks. and
 iostat show that
 only that only those two disks are being read.
 
 the session wait show that all the times the sessions are waiting on
 db file sequential read
 
 the db file being sequentially read in the above sessiion is the TABLE
 from
 which
 all the sid's are reading
 
 the table is analyzed and the sql's issued use the index.
 
 how can i further tune this config. ?
 
 TIA
 
 Rahul
 
 PS: my next step is to put the files on raw disks.
 
 
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Re: Input truncated

2001-07-24 Thread JRicard982

Andrea,

Make sure that at the end of your script you don't have additional returns and one 
hard return after the last command.

(i.e.
  SET  OFF
  SET  OFF

SELECT *
FROM table
/

SET  ON
SET  ON  
 one return here and no other lines 
   after

Hope this helps.

Rick

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Re: Solaris 8 Question

2001-07-24 Thread Sam Roberts

This happened to me today: Solaris 5.8
we have a large data load exercise going on and the archive log directory
filled - database stopped of course.
but after I had moved all the archive logs to another location the system
still hung - I tried manual switching of log file ,still hung.
I had to stop and start instance - I was surprised. did I miss something ?

sam


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If it's / or /tmp, then yes, your machine could well become unusable
until it gets some free space. If your archive log disk fills, Oracle
will refuse transactions until there is free space. Read the man page
for 'quota' to help you limit the possibility of this. And think about
switching autoextend off.

Cheers,

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Hi all,
A friend of mine is having a problem so I thought I would ask
all of you
experts a quick question.  On a Solaris 8 box running 8.1.7, if a
partition
fills up, will it crash the box?  I know that on NT this is very
possible
depending on pagefile and what file is filling up the partition.  But I
don't know anything about Sun.  Thanks alot:)

Sincerely,
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RE: How to deal with special character like in ' '

2001-07-24 Thread Ramasamy, Baskar

You could do select 'string1 '|| chr(38) ||' string2' from dual
 
Baskar

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Hi, 


I want to insert a string like 'AM University' but has problem with ''   I
want the database exact AM University. But it always ask me new or old
value because of symbol '' how could I deal with that. Thanks. 


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RE: RE: tnsnames.ora in clients

2001-07-24 Thread Tirumala, Surendra

Thanks to who responded and responding.
 
Suren

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except that ONS is going away in favor of ldap.
 
joe
 


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We switched to ONS 3 years ago  have never regretted it.  Getting rid of
the
tnsnames.ora file was the berries.

Dick Goulet

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One method I have seen used a lot is to set the TNS_ADMIN variable to point
to
the centralized file.

Another is to have the LAN guys add a check to their login script to check
to
see if the TNSNAMES.ORA has been updated and if it has, have it pushed down
when
the user logs into the LAN.

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 Hello All,
 
 Good morning!
 I would like to know how the 'tnsnames.ora' file on all 
 client(windows)
 machines can be updated automatically whenever something changed on
 central 'tnsnames.ora' file.
 Is this the process still being used extensively or else 
 advanced features
 like ONS.
 
 Your suggestions are highly appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: RMAN duplicate database query

2001-07-24 Thread Joan Hsieh

I am testing the duplicate command now. I don't think you need password
file on server A, but you do need a password file on server C. To my
understand, you do need 3 connections to make it work. Even you want
duplicate days old copy. I think rman somehow needs info from control
file on server A. For example, once I reset the database on target. I
can't duplicate it with any backupset any more. Anyway, I am still
learning and testing it. probably not know better than you do.

Joan

 Hallas John wrote:
 
 Hello listers,
 
 We have a instance on server A, a RMAN recovery catalogue on server B
 and a 3rd server C where we want to create a copy of the live database
 with a new sid.
 
 This is on Oracle 8.1.7
 The RMAN duplicate command seems to be the one to use but there is one
 hing I cannot understand.
 
 All the documentation (and I have RTFM  until my head hurts) suggests
 that the run script needs to make 3 connections (target - server A,
 rcat - server B and new instance server C).
 
 I do not know why we need to connect to the target sid (server A) at
 all. We don't want a synchronised duplicate at all but from midnight
 last night (or 3 days ago is fine). Therefore the rcat should all the
 information it requires. Furthermore we don't have
 remote_login_passwordfile created on server A and we don't really want
 to .
 
 As part of the testing we tried setting the dbid to the name of the
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Re: waits on sequential scans - how did i solve it

2001-07-24 Thread Igor Neyman

I don't think, 7.3.2 supports Index-Organized tables.

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 Rahul,

 If I'd known that there were only 8 columns in the table, I'd have
included
 the recommendation to investigate an Index-Organized Table.  That is where
 the table IS the index and the index IS the table.  This saves disc space
 and cuts I/O in half for DML on the table, since a separate index is not
 maintained.  Check out the docs on IOTs.

 Jack

 
 Jack C. Applewhite
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 list, based on the recommendation of posters (Jack) ,
 i re-created the index with all the columns of a table ! (all 8 of them)
 analyzed the table/index and now all the queries are satisfied off an
 indexed
 range scan..

 i also put the indexes on raw devices.

 regards


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  Rahul,
 
  Could this table be partitioned and the partitions spread across
multiple
  disks?  Could the index be partitioned as well?  The concept here is, of
  course, divide and conquer.
 
  Could a column or two (or three) be added to the index to satisfy the
  query
  without having to hit the table?
 
  How frequently are these literal queries being issued?  Are they
shredding
  your shared pool and chewing up CPU by making Oracle do extra work in
  shared
  pool memory management?
 
  Are there aggregation (vs aggravation g) functions or order bys in the
  queries that might be causing sorts to disk?  If aggregation, could you
  use
  materialized views to satisfy the queries?
 
  ...just a few ideas.
 
  Jack
 
  
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  list (AIX, 7.3.2)
 
  5 clients are shooting the same sql to read data from an 18 million rows
  table.
  each time the sql uses a different literal value in the where clause...
no
  bind variables.
 
  I CANNOT TOUCH THE APPLICATION, and have been given the task to
  re-configure
  the
  DB to increase performance.
 
  i have moved the table and it;s associated index to separate disks. and
  iostat show that
  only that only those two disks are being read.
 
  the session wait show that all the times the sessions are waiting on
  db file sequential read
 
  the db file being sequentially read in the above sessiion is the TABLE
  from
  which
  all the sid's are reading
 
  the table is analyzed and the sql's issued use the index.
 
  how can i further tune this config. ?
 
  TIA
 
  Rahul
 
  PS: my next step is to put the files on raw disks.
 

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RE: Temp tablespace issue

2001-07-24 Thread Raghu Kota



Y'day I got this errors, I tried to resize the file, But I could't succeed! 
Later I did wakeup SMON and tried with alter tablespace temp ..(pctincrease 
0)..But still I getting ora-600 with ora-01114/ora-07376 errors..Then I put 
that particular temp file in offline!!..I problems increased!! Then I try to 
put online..It asked recovery .I applied the recovery..Problem is gone!! My 
space is okay.

But I find for simple temp space insuffcient, just wake up SMON!! Its works 
well. But any ora-600 problems..STILL PUZZLE??

Mon Jul 23 08:26:13 2001
Errors in file /software/app/oracle/admin/baanIV/udump/ora_65640.trc:
ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [3509], [2], [], [], [], [], [], 
[]
ORA-01114: IO error writing block to file 166 (block # 134552)
ORA-07376: sfwfb: write error, unable to write database block.
IBM AIX RISC System/6000 Error: 27: File too large
Additional information: 134552

Thanks
Raghu.


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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 08:52:53 -0500

If your are getting ORA-600 error for seemingly simple operations, I think
it is time to get Oracle Support involved as soon as possible.

Good Luck.

Regards,

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  Subject:Temp tablespace issue
 
  Hi Guru's
 
  Today seems to be the day for awakenings!
 
  Our temp tablespace is about 10GB and the application
  uses up to about 3.5 GB. We had a space issue on the
  development box and i tried to reclaim some space by
  resizing the temp tablespace.
 
  But..when i tried to resize the TEMP tablespace i had
  ORA-600 errors reported in the log files and i had to
  kill the sql session that was performing the resize.
 
  I have not noticed any problems since.
 
  I also tried to drop the temp tablespace with similar
  problems.
 
  What all am i missing? Would appreciate any help in
  this regard as we are still up and running and still
  need to tackle the space issue.
 
  Thanks and Regards,
 
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Re: Solaris 8 Question

2001-07-24 Thread MHately



Sam,
you may find that you need to issue archive log stop and archive log start
to force the database to start archiving again.
Once it's failed to archive a log it seems to lose heart and give up until you
nudge it. Ironically the ARCHIVER will keep writing to the alert log to say that
it's still trying. But it isn't. No doubt it's a feature.
I've seen this on AIX, HP, Solaris, you name it.

Regards,
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This happened to me today: Solaris 5.8
we have a large data load exercise going on and the archive log directory
filled - database stopped of course.
but after I had moved all the archive logs to another location the system
still hung - I tried manual switching of log file ,still hung.
I had to stop and start instance - I was surprised. did I miss something ?

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Alert Logs Trashed after Archive Directory Fill

2001-07-24 Thread Kevin Lange

Evening;
  Over the past year we have had our Archive directory fill up a couple
times.  During that time, some of our instances have had corrupted archive
logs.  We found this out by applying them to our Standby Databases and
getting errors.  There appears to be no set pattern to this corruption.  One
time it was on instance A, while another time it was on instance B.

Has anyone else on the list ran into an occurance such as this ??   If so ,
is there anything that can be done about it ?  I get tired of rebuilding our
Standby Databases.

We are using Oracle 8.0.5 on SunOS 5.7.
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Urgent: ORA-03113

2001-07-24 Thread Sadzakovic Slavica

Red Hat 6.2

Oracle 8.1.6.1

192MB of RAM

While running dbassist, ORA-03113 EOF on communication channel appears
(progress bar shows between 65%
and 75%). What might be possible reason?

Software installation went without problems.

Please help


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Data Modeling opinion? Help?

2001-07-24 Thread Grabowy, Chris

I am currently on a project where I have pretty much completed the
logical/physical models.  Since the client has there own data modelers, they
have reviewed the models and wanted specific changes.  I have agreed with
all there changes except for one.  I have tried to explain why this change
would not be prudent, but they have insisted.  To ensure that there change
is enforced they went to there management and have now placed there change
into the project requirements.  Thereby, forcing us, the contractor, to
implement this change into the model.  I have run this change by several
different people and they agree that it should not be implemented.  I am now
looking for feedback from the list.  If you are willing to provide feedback
then please read on...

This is a claims system.  A mailed package was not delivered or is damaged,
so the customer files a claim.  Every claim consists of the mailer's name
and address, and the addressee's name and address, plus some other
information.  Aside from the average consumer, a Business Mailer(BM) can
also file a claim.  The BM has a special agreement with the client and gets
special treatment when filing claims, and therefore a Business Mailer
profile is created.

Originally, I was going to describe the two versions of the model, but
decided to post PDF files of the model on the web.  The ERDs are accessible
by clicking on the links below.  

One way
---
http://www.geocities.com/christophergrabowy/oneway.pdf

Two way
---
http://www.geocities.com/christophergrabowy/twoway.pdf


Both models have a claim table, which contains all the miscellaneous claim
information.

Both models have an address table.  Oneway.pdf separates the BM addresses
out, because they are not related to a claim.  Twoway.pdf puts all the
addresses(claim addresses and BM profile addresses) into the address table,
and also includes the customer name fields.  

Both models have a customer table.  This is were the majority of the dispute
revolves around.  

In oneway.pdf, the customer table contains the customer names(mailer and
addressee) that were submitted with the claim, it's PK is the claim_id.  The
Business Mailer profile is not directly related to a specific claim, so it
is put into it's own table(a BM profile table), it's PK is the BM agreement
number.

In twoway.pdf, the customer table contains the name of the customer that
filed the claim, and the Business Mailer profiles.  Since these types of
data use different fields, then the top part of the customer table
contains the customer name fields, and bottom part of the table contains
the Business Mailer profile fields.  And since either part of the table
could be filled out, all the fields are null.  Finally, since there is no
natural PK for the combination of these two records types, a synthetic PK is
generated.

If anyone has any questions then please don't hesitate to ask.

Again, any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

MANY THANKS

Chris
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RMAN problem after Duplicate

2001-07-24 Thread Jay Hostetter

I duplicated a production database using RMAN.  I have done this many times.  EXCEPT, 
this time I forgot to issue a RESET DATABASE for the duplicated database.  My backups 
ran last night for both production and the duplicated database.  The backup for the 
duplicated database failed with this error:

RMAN-20003: target database incarnation not found in recovery catalog


So, I connected via RMAN, issued the RESET DATABASE command and ran the backup.

Now, when I try to reference my duplicate database in RMAN, I get the following:

RMAN-20005 target database name is ambiguous

If I try to reference my production database in RMAN, I get the following:

RMAN-20003: target database incarnation not found in recovery catalog


Oracle support is recommending that I used SET DBID to duplicate production again.  I 
am worried that my production backups may be useless, or worse - that when I duplicate 
the database I'll trash my production db.  Anybody ever been here before?

Thanks,



Jay Hostetter
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RE: waits on sequential scans - how did i solve it

2001-07-24 Thread Kimberly Smith

I was going to say the same thing until I saw what version of Oracle
he was running.  Its a Oracle8 and up feature so Rahul is SOL.

-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 7:36 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Rahul,

If I'd known that there were only 8 columns in the table, I'd have included
the recommendation to investigate an Index-Organized Table.  That is where
the table IS the index and the index IS the table.  This saves disc space
and cuts I/O in half for DML on the table, since a separate index is not
maintained.  Check out the docs on IOTs.

Jack


Jack C. Applewhite
Database Administrator/Developer
OCP Oracle8 DBA
iNetProfit, Inc.
Austin, Texas
www.iNetProfit.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 8:53 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


list, based on the recommendation of posters (Jack) ,
i re-created the index with all the columns of a table ! (all 8 of them)
analyzed the table/index and now all the queries are satisfied off an
indexed
range scan..

i also put the indexes on raw devices.

regards


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 To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject:  RE: how to improve sequential scans ?

 Rahul,

 Could this table be partitioned and the partitions spread across multiple
 disks?  Could the index be partitioned as well?  The concept here is, of
 course, divide and conquer.

 Could a column or two (or three) be added to the index to satisfy the
 query
 without having to hit the table?

 How frequently are these literal queries being issued?  Are they shredding
 your shared pool and chewing up CPU by making Oracle do extra work in
 shared
 pool memory management?

 Are there aggregation (vs aggravation g) functions or order bys in the
 queries that might be causing sorts to disk?  If aggregation, could you
 use
 materialized views to satisfy the queries?

 ...just a few ideas.

 Jack

 
 Jack C. Applewhite
 Database Administrator/Developer
 OCP Oracle8 DBA
 iNetProfit, Inc.
 Austin, Texas
 www.iNetProfit.com
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (512)327-9068


 -Original Message-
 Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 7:36 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


 list (AIX, 7.3.2)

 5 clients are shooting the same sql to read data from an 18 million rows
 table.
 each time the sql uses a different literal value in the where clause... no
 bind variables.

 I CANNOT TOUCH THE APPLICATION, and have been given the task to
 re-configure
 the
 DB to increase performance.

 i have moved the table and it;s associated index to separate disks. and
 iostat show that
 only that only those two disks are being read.

 the session wait show that all the times the sessions are waiting on
 db file sequential read

 the db file being sequentially read in the above sessiion is the TABLE
 from
 which
 all the sid's are reading

 the table is analyzed and the sql's issued use the index.

 how can i further tune this config. ?

 TIA

 Rahul

 PS: my next step is to put the files on raw disks.


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Re:Data Modeling opinion? Help?

2001-07-24 Thread dgoulet

Chris,

I do not see a description of the change the modelers have specified in your
message, so I will assume the oneway.pdf file is your design and the twoway.pdf
is theirs.

Their model does have a much simpler layout (fewer table joins), but a much
greater likelihood of data duplication and consequently error.  I can easily see
the same customer having multiple records therein with different rules on how
their claim is handled.  That may in the end run cause a nightmare for your
client not to mention a lot of egg on the face.  Of course you'll be gone then,
so you won't have to live with it.

This is one of those cases where I would document your concerns and the
potential consequences thereof and submit that to damagement, also keep a copy
for yourself in the 'Pearl Harbor File'.  Then do as they ask.  Yeah, I know
it's dumb, but what are you as a consultant/contractor going to do?

Dick Goulet

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Author: Grabowy; Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:   7/24/2001 7:51 AM

I am currently on a project where I have pretty much completed the
logical/physical models.  Since the client has there own data modelers, they
have reviewed the models and wanted specific changes.  I have agreed with
all there changes except for one.  I have tried to explain why this change
would not be prudent, but they have insisted.  To ensure that there change
is enforced they went to there management and have now placed there change
into the project requirements.  Thereby, forcing us, the contractor, to
implement this change into the model.  I have run this change by several
different people and they agree that it should not be implemented.  I am now
looking for feedback from the list.  If you are willing to provide feedback
then please read on...

This is a claims system.  A mailed package was not delivered or is damaged,
so the customer files a claim.  Every claim consists of the mailer's name
and address, and the addressee's name and address, plus some other
information.  Aside from the average consumer, a Business Mailer(BM) can
also file a claim.  The BM has a special agreement with the client and gets
special treatment when filing claims, and therefore a Business Mailer
profile is created.

Originally, I was going to describe the two versions of the model, but
decided to post PDF files of the model on the web.  The ERDs are accessible
by clicking on the links below.  

One way
---
http://www.geocities.com/christophergrabowy/oneway.pdf

Two way
---
http://www.geocities.com/christophergrabowy/twoway.pdf


Both models have a claim table, which contains all the miscellaneous claim
information.

Both models have an address table.  Oneway.pdf separates the BM addresses
out, because they are not related to a claim.  Twoway.pdf puts all the
addresses(claim addresses and BM profile addresses) into the address table,
and also includes the customer name fields.  

Both models have a customer table.  This is were the majority of the dispute
revolves around.  

In oneway.pdf, the customer table contains the customer names(mailer and
addressee) that were submitted with the claim, it's PK is the claim_id.  The
Business Mailer profile is not directly related to a specific claim, so it
is put into it's own table(a BM profile table), it's PK is the BM agreement
number.

In twoway.pdf, the customer table contains the name of the customer that
filed the claim, and the Business Mailer profiles.  Since these types of
data use different fields, then the top part of the customer table
contains the customer name fields, and bottom part of the table contains
the Business Mailer profile fields.  And since either part of the table
could be filled out, all the fields are null.  Finally, since there is no
natural PK for the combination of these two records types, a synthetic PK is
generated.

If anyone has any questions then please don't hesitate to ask.

Again, any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

MANY THANKS

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Re: Solaris 8 Question

2001-07-24 Thread Richard Ji

You should try to query the archive destination

select * from v$archive_dest

see if it says ERROR

And do

alter system archive log stop followed by alter system archive log start

This will fix the broken archive process.

Richard Ji

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This happened to me today: Solaris 5.8
we have a large data load exercise going on and the archive log directory
filled - database stopped of course.
but after I had moved all the archive logs to another location the system
still hung - I tried manual switching of log file ,still hung.
I had to stop and start instance - I was surprised. did I miss something ?

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If it's / or /tmp, then yes, your machine could well become unusable
until it gets some free space. If your archive log disk fills, Oracle
will refuse transactions until there is free space. Read the man page
for 'quota' to help you limit the possibility of this. And think about
switching autoextend off.

Cheers,

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Hi all,
A friend of mine is having a problem so I thought I would ask
all of you
experts a quick question.  On a Solaris 8 box running 8.1.7, if a
partition
fills up, will it crash the box?  I know that on NT this is very
possible
depending on pagefile and what file is filling up the partition.  But I
don't know anything about Sun.  Thanks alot:)

Sincerely,
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RE: unrecoverable

2001-07-24 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: unrecoverable





Prasad,
Select logging from dba_tables / user_tables
John
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hi dba's


how to find out whether a table is in unrecoverable
state.


(Hope it is changed to Logginig/Nologging.)


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what do I tune?

2001-07-24 Thread Gene Gurevich

Hi all:

I am trying to tune some queries. I ran them all in 
one stream (in sequence) and then ran them in several
(up to 64) parallel streams. I got a snapshot of
the system for each run. I see some of the waits went
up significantly when I switched from 2 parallel
streams to 64: buffer busy wait, db file seq read,
enqueue waits, latch free waits and many more. Now
some of this increases may be OK, some  may be not. My
question is how do I decide which of these waits are a
problem and should be looked into and which are normal
and can be safely ignored. Are there any quantative 
rules that I could use?

thank you for any insight

Gene

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Re: Snapshot shows as INVALID in DBA_OBJECTs

2001-07-24 Thread A. Bardeen

Dave,

There are several issues with MV's/snapshots not
displaying info correctly in various DBA/ALL/USER
views.  So far all that I've found are annoying, but
don't interfere with refreshes or any other
operations,  and are fixed in 9.0.1.

This is probably due to the fact that they really are
two different beasts behind the scenes although
they're used synonymously and share much of the same
code base.  I have a tendency to think of snapshots
for distributed operations (the queries involve a
dblink) and MV's for data warehousing operations
(everything goes against local tables).

When a snapshot is being refreshed, as part of the
set-up phase the refresh date is set to 1/1/1950 (in a
sense, the beginning of time).  This way if the
refresh is unsuccessful, Oracle knows that a complete
refresh needs to be done the next time.  Since 8.x,
the date shown under LAST_REFRESH in DBA_SNAPSHOTS has
incorrectly shown 1/1/1950 (bug 557451, fixed in
8.1.7.2, 9i; note 1036859.6).  Instead query
DBA_SNAPSHOT_REFRESH_TIMES.

HTH,

-- Anita

--- Dave Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks Anita,
   I filed a TAR, altered my catalog.sql,
   recompiled 360 invalid objects, and now:
 
   It shows up in DBA_OBJECTS as a MATERIALIZED VIEW, 
   but the status is still INVALID, and the last 
   refresh data is shown as 1950
 
   I don't think this morning is 1950 but I've been
 wrong before :)
 
   Sigh ..
 
   And metaStink is basically down this morning so
 .
 
   I'm still confused :)
 Dave
 
 A. Bardeen wrote:
  
  Dave,
  
  As someone else pointed out, this is a known bug
  (1188948).
  
  The issue is not with the dd, but that the view
 for
  DBA_OBJECTS did not get updated to handle the new
  object type value for materialized views.  If you
  check the view definition (should be in
 catalog.sql)
  you'll see a decode statement that determines the
  object type.  It doesn't have an entry for type
 42,
  the new type for materialized views/snapshots, so
  that's why they're listed as undefined.
  
  You can manually change the view definition, just
 keep
  in mind that you'll need to change it again after
  applying a patchset if the patchset replaces
  catalog.sql.
  
  It doesn't interfere with the way the snapshot/MV
  works, so it's considered annoying, but harmless. 
 The
  script is fixed in 9i.
  
  HTH,
  
  -- Anita
  
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   Hi All,
 The subject says it all, 8.1.7 on Solaris
 2.8
  
 The snapshot is accessable and correct.
  
 Anyone know a (supported) way to clean up
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   dictionary?
  
   TIA
   Dave
  
 
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RE: Reproduce ORA-0600

2001-07-24 Thread Unal Bilisim

Hello,

What was the first parameter of ora-600 ? We should unserstand if your ora-600 
are cause or consequence. if it's consequence( I guess it's in your case), 
ignore it.

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I had a production database become corrupt after an ORA-07445 and an
ORA-0600 occurred.  The instance would not come back up and had to be
recovered.  I can reproduce and correct the ORA-07445 (bad block) but it
doesn't create the ORA-0600 or corrupt the database.  I have tried adding
rows, deleting rows, reading by the index by requesting all columns in the
index, updating all columns in the index.  Nothing seems to work.  Any ideas
on how I can reproduce the error?

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Re: system switch off

2001-07-24 Thread tday6

Depends.  Is your server an NT box or UNIX?  Your sessions are dead (you
cannot reconnect to them), but in an NT box there are no separate
processes.  On a UNIX box the processes associated with your sessions will
remain.  Our developers used to go home at the end of the day and just turn
off their client boxes without logging out of Oracle.  In a 24x7 UNIX
environment, eventually these ghost processes will cause problems with
semaphores (something about cannot fork).  It was a long time ago (in a
galaxy far away) but I'll bet someone here can tell you how to use PIDs and
SPIDs to track down the offending processes and kill them.


   

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hi dba's

my pc was connected to a remote oracle server.

i logged into sql*plus as scott/tiger.

suddently the power has gone.

can anybody tell me what happens to my sessions,

will they still exist in the server, or killed by any
process,

or

pmon cleans everything concern to session.

thanx in adv.

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RE: what do I tune?

2001-07-24 Thread Page, Bruce

What do you want to achieve?

The more parallel you run the more some of your waits will go up, but the elapsed time 
may drop a little or a lot.  Also you need to balance it with the total load on your 
server.  If it is a query that is run a lot when there are a lot of users on the 
system you could max out your server.  If it is during a down time for batch, that may 
not be a problem.  Also keep track of your explain plan as you bump up parallelism, it 
can change.

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 Subject: what do I tune?
 
 
 Hi all:
 
 I am trying to tune some queries. I ran them all in 
 one stream (in sequence) and then ran them in several
 (up to 64) parallel streams. I got a snapshot of
 the system for each run. I see some of the waits went
 up significantly when I switched from 2 parallel
 streams to 64: buffer busy wait, db file seq read,
 enqueue waits, latch free waits and many more. Now
 some of this increases may be OK, some  may be not. My
 question is how do I decide which of these waits are a
 problem and should be looked into and which are normal
 and can be safely ignored. Are there any quantative 
 rules that I could use?
 
 thank you for any insight
 
 Gene
 
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What privileges are required for Shareplex?

2001-07-24 Thread Rao, Maheswara

List,

We are installing Shareplex.  Could any of you tell what privileges are
required for a shareplex user?

The customer support person from QUEST says that shareplex user requires DBA
privileges.

Is it correct?

Thanks

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books on data modelling

2001-07-24 Thread Tirumala, Surendra

Hello All,

I have been in the lookout for a good and comprehensive book on data
modelling
so that I can enhance my knowledge in this area.
I am not finding anything related in online Oracle documentation.
Please suggest me..

Thanks in Advance,
Suren
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RE: Reproduce ORA-0600

2001-07-24 Thread Smith, Ron L.

Here are the error messages:
ORA-07445: exception encountered: core dump [11] [0] [0] [0] [] []
Mon Jul  2 08:03:19 2001
Thread 1 advanced to log sequence 304
  Current log# 8 seq# 304 mem# 0: /u035/oradata/prod/redo08.log
Mon Jul  2 13:55:26 2001
Thread 1 advanced to log sequence 305
  Current log# 5 seq# 305 mem# 0: /u032/oradata/prod/redo05.log
Mon Jul  2 14:02:27 2001
Errors in file /u002/app/oracle/admin/prod/udump/ora_11586.trc:
ORA-07445: exception encountered: core dump [11] [0] [0] [0] [] []
Mon Jul  2 14:06:20 2001
Errors in file /u002/app/oracle/admin/prod/bdump/dbwr_21336.trc:
ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [3374], [11206682], [825371952],
[875376697], [11824], [], [], []
Mon Jul  2 14:06:22 2001
Errors in file /u002/app/oracle/admin/prod/bdump/dbwr_21336.trc:
ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [3374], [2617431000],
[960050989], [32], [0], [32], [], []
ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [3374], [11206682], [825371952],
[875376697], [11824], [], [], []
Mon Jul  2 14:20:22 2001


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Hello,

What was the first parameter of ora-600 ? We should unserstand if your
ora-600 
are cause or consequence. if it's consequence( I guess it's in your case), 
ignore it.

24/7/01 06:10:53, Lord, David - CS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Try upgrading to 8.1.6, its great at throwing 600's ;-)

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I had a production database become corrupt after an ORA-07445 and an
ORA-0600 occurred.  The instance would not come back up and had to be
recovered.  I can reproduce and correct the ORA-07445 (bad block) but it
doesn't create the ORA-0600 or corrupt the database.  I have tried adding
rows, deleting rows, reading by the index by requesting all columns in the
index, updating all columns in the index.  Nothing seems to work.  Any
ideas
on how I can reproduce the error?

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RE: tnsnames.ora in clients

2001-07-24 Thread Anderson, Brian

We use a shared tnsnames.ora from a NT server.

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 2:33 PM
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 Subject: Re: tnsnames.ora in clients
 
 
 Does this method of sharing the tnsnames work for you? What 
 operating system are you using? I use Novell and when I tried 
 this method of sharing the tnsnames it wouls not work. We had 
 to resolve to downloading the latest copy to the users when 
 they logged in.
 ROR mª¿ªm
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/23/01 11:41AM 
 You can write a script and each time when a user logs into a domain
 it will check and copy the latest tnsnames.ora file.  Or you can just
 place the tnsnames.ora file on the network drive and point everyone
 to it.
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/23/01 10:55AM 
 Hello All,
 
 Good morning!
 I would like to know how the 'tnsnames.ora' file on all 
 client(windows)
 machines can be updated automatically whenever something changed on
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 Is this the process still being used extensively or else 
 advanced features
 like ONS.
 
 Your suggestions are highly appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Suren
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RE: books on data modelling

2001-07-24 Thread Bond Mike A Contr OC-ALC/TILC

Take a look at Data MOdeling Essentials
by Simsion
Coriolis




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Hello All,

I have been in the lookout for a good and comprehensive book on data
modelling
so that I can enhance my knowledge in this area.
I am not finding anything related in online Oracle documentation.
Please suggest me..

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RE: Data Modeling opinion? Help?

2001-07-24 Thread Page, Bruce

Keep in mind that they pay you to advise them and to do what they want done.  They do 
not pay you to beat them over the head to do what is right.

Document to cya


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RE: what do I tune?

2001-07-24 Thread Jon Walthour



Gene:

It all depends on a couple of factors: (1) what are the average
wait times for each of the wait events, (2) which one(s) have
the highest wait times. I would ignore any waits less than 1
centisecond for the most part.

Buffer Busy Waits occur when a session is waiting for a buffer
to become available. This is because a buffer is either being
read into the buffer cache by another session (and the session
is waiting for that read to complete) or the buffer is in the
buffer cache, but in an incompatible mode(that is, some other
session is changing the buffer). There are several courses of
action here, depending on what type of block it is:

-- If it is a data block, change the pctfree and pctused or,
in the case of an index, check for right-hand indexing or increase
initrans. The key is to reduce the number of rows/leaves per
block to reduce contention.

-- If it is a segment header, increase the number of freelists
or use freelist groups.

-- If it is a freelist block, increase the number of freelists.

-- If it is an undo header block, add more rollback segments
when in exclusive mode and consider setting transactions per
rbs = 1.

-- If it is an undo block, add more rollback segments when in
exclusive mode or make the segments you have larger.

DB file sequential read waits indicate that either (a) an index
lookup is being performed or (b) a controlfile is being rebuilt
or (c) datafile headers are being dumped or retrieved. In your
case, it's probably the first one.

Enqueue waits are waits for locks to be released. Taking care
of those can be quite complex depending on the types of locks
being held and those being requested and on what structures,
etc.

Latch free waits are waits for another to release a latch on
a given resource. The presence of latch free waits of any significant
magnitude may indicate a bottleneck within the SGA.

It seems obvious that when you turned up the degree of parallelism
on the query, the database as you currently have it set up could
not handle the load. All these wait events would be consistent
with that.

Hope this helps.

Jon Walthour

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Hi all:

I am trying to tune some queries. I ran them all in 
one stream (in sequence) and then ran them in several
(up to 64) parallel streams. I got a snapshot of
the system for each run. I see some of the waits went
up significantly when I switched from 2 parallel
streams to 64: buffer busy wait, db file seq read,
enqueue waits, latch free waits and many more. Now
some of this increases may be OK, some  may be not. My
question is how do I decide which of these waits are a
problem and should be looked into and which are normal
and can be safely ignored. Are there any quantative 
rules that I could use?

thank you for any insight

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dbw and lgwr issue

2001-07-24 Thread Seema Singh

Hi
The dbw0 process is taking much CPU since yesterday but I couldn't found any 
waits.Let me know what could be reason and how ca I came out from this 
issue.Some time lgwr is also taking some more time.
Thanks
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RE: Data Modeling opinion? Help?

2001-07-24 Thread Kimberly Smith

Yes, but ironically enough, its the consultant they ram to the ground after
it goes south, no matter how well you document that you recommended against
it.  

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Keep in mind that they pay you to advise them and to do what they want done.
They do not pay you to beat them over the head to do what is right.

Document to cya


 This is one of those cases where I would document your 
 concerns and the
 potential consequences thereof and submit that to damagement, 
 also keep a copy
 for yourself in the 'Pearl Harbor File'.  Then do as they 
 ask.  Yeah, I know
 it's dumb, but what are you as a consultant/contractor going to do?
 
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SHARED SQLNET.ora? RE: tnsnames.ora in clients

2001-07-24 Thread Haskins, Ed

Has anyone been successful with putting the SQLNET.ora file in the same
shared location as the TNSNAMES.ora file?  I know it's supposed to be used
solely on the user workstation in /network/admin (Net80/admin), but some
people are trying to place it on the shared drive as well.

We're actually implementing ONAMES, so we're replacing the SQLNET.ora file
to specify ONAMES, and some Regions are thinking they only need to place
this on the shared drive where TNS_ADMIN points to.  I don't think this is
supported or works in all situations.  Any experiences or comments??

Ed

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We use a shared tnsnames.ora from a NT server.

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 2:33 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: Re: tnsnames.ora in clients
 
 
 Does this method of sharing the tnsnames work for you? What 
 operating system are you using? I use Novell and when I tried 
 this method of sharing the tnsnames it wouls not work. We had 
 to resolve to downloading the latest copy to the users when 
 they logged in.
 ROR mª¿ªm
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/23/01 11:41AM 
 You can write a script and each time when a user logs into a domain
 it will check and copy the latest tnsnames.ora file.  Or you can just
 place the tnsnames.ora file on the network drive and point everyone
 to it.
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/23/01 10:55AM 
 Hello All,
 
 Good morning!
 I would like to know how the 'tnsnames.ora' file on all 
 client(windows)
 machines can be updated automatically whenever something changed on
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 Is this the process still being used extensively or else 
 advanced features
 like ONS.
 
 Your suggestions are highly appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 
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Need SQL Example

2001-07-24 Thread Post, Ethan

Anyone got a good example of flipping a range of values into columner
buckets.  I have done this in the past but my solutions always seem so
convoluted, it seems I have seen more elegant examples in the past.  I want
to use decode so it will run on older versions of Oracle. 

Pseudo Example:

select
   sum(decode(if value between 0 and 64 then return 1 else 0))
count_of_this_bucket,
   sum(decode(if value between 65 and 128 then return 1 else 0))
count_of_this_bucket,...
from
   table

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Re:RE: Data Modeling opinion? Help?

2001-07-24 Thread dgoulet

Bruce,

You are correct, but I've been on both sides of that equation.  If the
contractor does not keep a good file of their objections I the customer will
beat them over the head when I have performance issues.  One reason I don't want
to be a consultant/contractor any more, your never right.

Dick Goulet

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Keep in mind that they pay you to advise them and to do what they want done. 
They do not pay you to beat them over the head to do what is right.

Document to cya


 This is one of those cases where I would document your 
 concerns and the
 potential consequences thereof and submit that to damagement, 
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 it's dumb, but what are you as a consultant/contractor going to do?
 
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RE: Data Modeling opinion? Help?

2001-07-24 Thread Grabowy, Chris

Exactly.  Which is why I am trying to change this now.

As for the previous comment, they do not pay me to beat them over the head,
BUT they do pay me to do what is right.  

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They do not pay you to beat them over the head to do what is right.

Document to cya


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 also keep a copy
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 it's dumb, but what are you as a consultant/contractor going to do?
 
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Re: what do I tune?

2001-07-24 Thread Unal Bilisim

Hi,

itrprof SQL Analyzer can do what you asked.
itrprof: http://www.unal-bilisim.com/products/itrprof/itrprof.html

24/7/01 06:56:29, Gene Gurevich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi all:

I am trying to tune some queries. I ran them all in 
one stream (in sequence) and then ran them in several
(up to 64) parallel streams. I got a snapshot of
the system for each run. I see some of the waits went
up significantly when I switched from 2 parallel
streams to 64: buffer busy wait, db file seq read,
enqueue waits, latch free waits and many more. Now
some of this increases may be OK, some  may be not. My
question is how do I decide which of these waits are a
problem and should be looked into and which are normal
and can be safely ignored. Are there any quantative 
rules that I could use?

thank you for any insight

Gene

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RE: Need SQL Example

2001-07-24 Thread Nicoll, Iain (Calanais)

I think you use sign eg

the above will work for integers at least and just requires the the lower
and upper values of the ranges plugged in.  I'm sure it could be adapted for
real numbers but hopefully this will do

select sum(decode(sign(:value - (0-1)),1,decode(sign(:value -
(64+1)),-1,1,0),
  0)),
   sum(decode(sign(:value - (65-1)),1,decode(sign(:value -
(128+1)),-1,1,0),
  0)),
   sum(decode(sign(:value - (129-1)),1,decode(sign(:value -
(192+1)),-1,1,0),
  0))

from dual   

Cheers

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Anyone got a good example of flipping a range of values into columner
buckets.  I have done this in the past but my solutions always seem so
convoluted, it seems I have seen more elegant examples in the past.  I want
to use decode so it will run on older versions of Oracle. 

Pseudo Example:

select
   sum(decode(if value between 0 and 64 then return 1 else 0))
count_of_this_bucket,
   sum(decode(if value between 65 and 128 then return 1 else 0))
count_of_this_bucket,...
from
   table

Thanks,
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Re:RE: Data Modeling opinion? Help?

2001-07-24 Thread dgoulet

Chris,

True, except when I as the customer change the specs.  Then what is right is
what I say.  Or as a Program Management instructor told the class As it is
written, so let it be done.

Dick Goulet

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Author: Grabowy; Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:   7/24/2001 9:48 AM

Exactly.  Which is why I am trying to change this now.

As for the previous comment, they do not pay me to beat them over the head,
BUT they do pay me to do what is right.  

-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 1:29 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Yes, but ironically enough, its the consultant they ram to the ground after
it goes south, no matter how well you document that you recommended against
it.  

-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 10:02 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Keep in mind that they pay you to advise them and to do what they want done.
They do not pay you to beat them over the head to do what is right.

Document to cya


 This is one of those cases where I would document your 
 concerns and the
 potential consequences thereof and submit that to damagement, 
 also keep a copy
 for yourself in the 'Pearl Harbor File'.  Then do as they 
 ask.  Yeah, I know
 it's dumb, but what are you as a consultant/contractor going to do?
 
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RE: RE: Data Modeling opinion? Help?

2001-07-24 Thread Grabowy, Chris

Hmmm...when the spec is changed because of some business requirement then
that's fine.  But when it's changed because your own designers cant argue
the design on technical merit then what?  A spec should quote all the
business rules, and some high level details about the overall architecture
of the system.  But the spec shouldn't tell you that you will have these two
specific tables in the database, with these specific fields, etc.

In the end the contractor is ultimately responsible for the validity and
performance of the system that they deliver.  The contractor will never be
able to point back to some disclaimer and say We told you so.  It will be
next to impossible to point to the disclaimer when you start slipping the
schedule or when the performance is not quite there.

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Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 1:09 PM
To: Grabowy; Chris; Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Chris,

True, except when I as the customer change the specs.  Then what is
right is
what I say.  Or as a Program Management instructor told the class As it is
written, so let it be done.

Dick Goulet

Reply Separator
Author: Grabowy; Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:   7/24/2001 9:48 AM

Exactly.  Which is why I am trying to change this now.

As for the previous comment, they do not pay me to beat them over the head,
BUT they do pay me to do what is right.  

-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 1:29 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Yes, but ironically enough, its the consultant they ram to the ground after
it goes south, no matter how well you document that you recommended against
it.  

-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 10:02 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Keep in mind that they pay you to advise them and to do what they want done.
They do not pay you to beat them over the head to do what is right.

Document to cya


 This is one of those cases where I would document your 
 concerns and the
 potential consequences thereof and submit that to damagement, 
 also keep a copy
 for yourself in the 'Pearl Harbor File'.  Then do as they 
 ask.  Yeah, I know
 it's dumb, but what are you as a consultant/contractor going to do?
 
 Dick Goulet
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RE: Data Modeling opinion? Help?

2001-07-24 Thread Page, Bruce

Over the past 17 years, I have been on both sides of this fence.  Right is defined by 
the gods that be.  I know, because I have fought the fights.  I have been the person 
having to live with the system left by consultants that designed the system right 
and they were backed by my manager against my position.  Then I had to explain to the 
manager later why we could not do certain things.  I have also won the fight and lived 
with the consequences.  I have also been the consultant that came in and said this is 
stupid and it needs to be done this way.  I have won and lost those fights too.

They pay consultants to make recommendations and then do what they tell you to do.  
You have the choice to stay and do it or to leave.

 As for the previous comment, they do not pay me to beat them 
 over the head,
 BUT they do pay me to do what is right. 
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Re: system switch off

2001-07-24 Thread Mohammad Rafiq

Just add something, I am using following script to track SPID of such 
processes and kill them using kill -9 SPID. Sometime it releases oracle 
session immediately or take a while for rollback. Any how to make sure at 
sql level , same may be killed at sql level using relevant sid, serial

set linesize 120
select substr(vs.username,1,10)username,
   vs.osuser,
   vs.sid,
   vs.serial#,
   vs.LOGON_TIME,
   substr(vs.machine,1,15)machine,
   vs.process,
   vp.spid,
   vs.last_call_et
from v$session vs, v$process vp
where vs.paddr = vp.addr
and vs.username is not null
and vs.status = 'ACTIVE';

May help someone

Regards
MOHAMMAD RAFIQ



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Depends.  Is your server an NT box or UNIX?  Your sessions are dead (you
cannot reconnect to them), but in an NT box there are no separate
processes.  On a UNIX box the processes associated with your sessions will
remain.  Our developers used to go home at the end of the day and just turn
off their client boxes without logging out of Oracle.  In a 24x7 UNIX
environment, eventually these ghost processes will cause problems with
semaphores (something about cannot fork).  It was a long time ago (in a
galaxy far away) but I'll bet someone here can tell you how to use PIDs and
SPIDs to track down the offending processes and kill them.



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hi dba's

my pc was connected to a remote oracle server.

i logged into sql*plus as scott/tiger.

suddently the power has gone.

can anybody tell me what happens to my sessions,

will they still exist in the server, or killed by any
process,

or

pmon cleans everything concern to session.

thanx in adv.

prasad

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how to run explain plan on SP???

2001-07-24 Thread Leslie Lu

Hi,

Can anyone show me how to run explain plan on a whole
stored procedure?  815 on Sun 5.6.  Thanks a lot.

Leslie

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RE: Data Modeling opinion? Help?

2001-07-24 Thread Page, Bruce

It goes with the territory.

 Yes, but ironically enough, its the consultant they ram to 
 the ground after
 it goes south, no matter how well you document that you 
 recommended against it.  
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RE: Data Modeling opinion? Help?

2001-07-24 Thread Jon Walthour



Chris:

You have to remember that you are there as a consultant, as a
value add to the client's business, not to argue with them. If
they choose to do something different than what you recommend,
that's their choice. I agree with what others have said: document,
document, document. That way if things don't turn out as expected
or when project deadlines start to slip because of scope creep,
you can go back and point to what decisions and activities brought
about these changes. And would you want a project deadline to
be missed because you spent a week arguing a point with them
ro because you did it the way they asked and it didn't work as
they thought it would.

I always try to remember as a consultant that, when it gets right
down to it, I'm not part of their team--that's not my role. I'm
a hired gun in the case of project work or an augmentation to
their team. In either case, I am there to add something, not
to detract from it.

Just my two cents.

Jon Walthour

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Date: 7/24/01 2:40:24 PM


Hmmm...when the spec is changed because of some business requirement
then
that's fine.  But when it's changed because your own designers
cant argue
the design on technical merit then what?  A spec should quote
all the
business rules, and some high level details about the overall
architecture
of the system.  But the spec shouldn't tell you that you will
have these two
specific tables in the database, with these specific fields,
etc.

In the end the contractor is ultimately responsible for the
validity and
performance of the system that they deliver.  The contractor
will never be
able to point back to some disclaimer and say We told you so.
 It will be
next to impossible to point to the disclaimer when you start
slipping the
schedule or when the performance is not quite there.

-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 1:09 PM
To: Grabowy; Chris; Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Chris,

True, except when I as the customer change the specs.  Then
what is
right is
what I say.  Or as a Program Management instructor told the
class As it is
written, so let it be done.

Dick Goulet

Reply Separator
Author: Grabowy; Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:   7/24/2001 9:48 AM

Exactly.  Which is why I am trying to change this now.

As for the previous comment, they do not pay me to beat them
over the head,
BUT they do pay me to do what is right.  

-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 1:29 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Yes, but ironically enough, its the consultant they ram to the
ground after
it goes south, no matter how well you document that you recommended
against
it.  

-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 10:02 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Keep in mind that they pay you to advise them and to do what
they want done.
They do not pay you to beat them over the head to do what is
right.

Document to cya


 This is one of those cases where I would document your

 concerns and the
 potential consequences thereof and submit that to damagement,

 also keep a copy
 for yourself in the 'Pearl Harbor File'.  Then do as they

 ask.  Yeah, I know
 it's dumb, but what are you as a consultant/contractor going
to do?
 
 Dick Goulet
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Oracle/AIX 64 bit

2001-07-24 Thread Mohan, Ross

Guys/Dolls - 

Are you using 64bit oracle on AIX? Was it a
reasonable install? Any gotchas? Notice anything 
about performance.?

ANY comments at all most welcome. 

Thanks!

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RE: Update ALL colums without knowing their name??-correction

2001-07-24 Thread Csillag Zsolt

Hi,

Thank you for your answer.

Unfortunatelly I can't truncate, then insert into ... select ( I myself
thought about it before )because
the tables are always used ( there are always a few users connecting to
database).

Thank you

Zsolt Csillag 
Hungary

At 13:52 2001.07.23. -0800, you wrote:

Are you just trying to
totally refresh table1 from table 2? 

how about: 

1. TRUNCATE table1; 

2. INSERT INTO table1 SELECT * FROM
table2; 
(assuming structures of the two tables are
compatible) 

Or am I just totally missing the mark in what you are
looking to do? 


Jon 
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Subject: Update ALL colums without knowing their
name?? 



Hi, 

I need an universal update procedure in which I don' t know
the colums name. 

How can I make an update like this: 

Update Table1 set Every_columns = ( Select * from
Table2) 

I tried set Table1.* wiht no result. 
How can I work around this? 


Csillag Zsolt

www.star-soft.hu


Re: Urgent: ORA-03113

2001-07-24 Thread k johnson

You missed some of the parameter or environmental
settings.


--- Sadzakovic Slavica [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Red Hat 6.2
 
 Oracle 8.1.6.1
 
 192MB of RAM
 
 While running dbassist, ORA-03113 EOF on
 communication channel appears
 (progress bar shows between 65%
 and 75%). What might be possible reason?
 
 Software installation went without problems.
 
 Please help
 
 
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RE: Sun cluster vs Veritas cluster

2001-07-24 Thread Austin, Steve S



I have 
used both and somewhat prefer VCS. In both systems, we've had problems 
where the cluster was in an unknown state and any action to change the state was 
risky to all the services in the cluster. This is rare for both 
products.

Our 
Sun support required for us to pay them to certify our stuff before they'd 
support the implementation. Don't know if you're subject to this too, but 
VCS has no such rule. The tests were interesting, but we could conduct the 
tests without their involvement.

Command-line jocks may at first prefer Sun, but I think Veritas is a 
better bet since it's not as tied to the hardware vendor, and is more likely to 
be common across Unixes, if you're in a site where you've got more than one Unix 
vendor's stuff to support, like I am. 

We are 
in the process of migrating from Sun cluster to VCS, fyi.

my 
2¢
Steve

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  AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Sun 
  cluster vs Veritas cluster
  List,
  
  Just wondering if anyone on the list who had 
  experience on both Sun clustering and Veritas clustering software share their 
  experience on both products, strength and weakness or any 
  comparison??
  
  KC


OEM Data Gatherer question???

2001-07-24 Thread Andrea Oracle

Hi,

I installed both OEM 204 Tuning Pack and Diagnostic
Pack, TP runs very fine.  But when I tried to connect
to DP's Performance Mananger, I got message VTM 0005
and Data Gatherer is not running.  What is this Data
Gatherer?  and how to run it?  Thanks a lot!

Andrea

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RE: A lazy connection!

2001-07-24 Thread Naik, Sandesh S

Thank you friends, 
 But we finally figured out. Actually the OUT parameter is procedure is
useless as Shailesh pointed out , there is no variable to put the OUT value
in auto-execute.
 So this is what we did. Kept the OUT parameter ( we could took it out but
developer insisted to keep it as they might use that procedure in Pro*C) in
the procedure and rewrote the submit job script like this.

declare
  jobno number;
begin
 dbms_job.submit(jobno,'declare errno number; begin
l_load_weekly_aps.p_load_ocn(errno); end;',sysdate,'sysdate+1');
end;

Now it submits and while auto-executing through dbms_job.run also finds the
variable to put the OUT parameter valus, but we still can not see this
value.
 But hey, it solves the problems job executes fine without any of those
errors I was getting before.
 Thanks everybody for the input and replies.

Sandesh

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I may be missing something but do you need the : in front of errno.

 

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Dear List,
 I have a package which I want to execute using dba_jobs.
 Within that package I run procedure which has one OUT parameter ( errno)
 When I submit the job
declare
  jobno number;
errno number;
begin
 dbms_job.submit(jobno,'l_load_weekly_aps.p_load_ocn(:errno);',sysda
te,'sysdate');
end;
It submits fine but when I try to run that job
using exec dbms_job.run(52), it gives me following error.
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-12011: execution of 1 jobs failed
ORA-06512: at SYS.DBMS_IJOB, line 394
ORA-06512: at SYS.DBMS_JOB, line 267
ORA-06512: at line 1

ORA-12012: error on auto execute of job 52
ORA-01008: not all variables bound

Anybody has any answers ?
 thanks for your help.
Sandesh

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RE: Data Modeling opinion? Help?

2001-07-24 Thread Kimberly Smith

Don't get me wrong.  I understand that completely.  I have spent
my whole career as a consultant.  There are good things and bad things.
I have, in the past, refused to go back to one particular client, but
then again so did the whole staff that was done there at one point
in time.  For the most part I deal with my management when there 
are issues, let them do what they want and then do what I need to do
to get the job done, whether its the way they want it done or  my way.

I must say though, its the exception rather then the rule, that I actually 
have issues with the client.  I work hard to have my clients trust me 
and I have always been successful (knock on wood).  I truly believe that
its all in how you treat them.  

I do disagree with a comment someone else made about how you are not
part of their team.  While I am here I am part of their team.  I work
within their framework and my goals are the same as their goals.  The
only difference is, I have a whole corporation behind me to help if needed.

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It goes with the territory.

 Yes, but ironically enough, its the consultant they ram to 
 the ground after
 it goes south, no matter how well you document that you 
 recommended against it.  
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Oracle on Hitachi 9900 series

2001-07-24 Thread Anubha Jalsingh

Hi List,

I am looking for some suggestions about tuning 
hitachi storage systems for Oracle databases. 
We are using Hitachi 9960 with Veritas volume manager 
and UFS file system. I am particularly looking for 
this information -

What type of configuration are you using ie RAID1 / RAID5.
What is the setting on maxcontig parameter at the fs level. 

As i was told, The stripe size and number of disks in RAID
groups are fixed in Hitachi storage system and is not 
configurable. 


thanks.
MJ.





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rollback and free list contension

2001-07-24 Thread Seema Singh

Hi
let me know if some one have script to monitor rollback segment contension 
and free list contension then can u please send it.
Thanks
-Seema

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