Help need

2001-07-27 Thread Deewaker G.V.
Title: Help need





HI DBA Guru's


I wanted to know all the Index names under respective table spaces


For example


Tablespace is Production
 Table name : customer, item, supplier
 index Names idx_customer_custid
   idx_customer_name
   idx_item_itemid
   idx_item_name
   idx_supplier_itemid
   idx_supplier_name
 
Tablespace is Quality
 Table name : customer, item, supplier
 index Names idx_customer_custid
   idx_customer_name
   idx_item_itemid
   idx_item_name
   idx_supplier_itemid
   idx_supplier_name


Tablespace is Development
 Table name : customer, item, supplier
 index Names idx_customer_custid
   idx_customer_name
   idx_item_itemid
   idx_item_name
   idx_supplier_itemid
   idx_supplier_name


with warm regards,


Deewaker G. V.


Baazee.com India Pvt. Ltd.
(: 4611323 Extn: 216
Fax : 4611324


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2 queries

2001-07-27 Thread C.S.Venkata Subramanian

Dear Fellow DBA's,
I have 2 queries.

Query 1
I have a development database Oracle 816 under winNT. I tried to connect as sysdba. 
But it is giving insuffient privileges. When I queried the v$pwfile_users table, there 
are no rows selected. how can I add users to it. I tried recreating passwordfile. But 
the same problem.

Query 2
I had a test database 8.1.7 under WinNT. Due to some reasons I had to reload NT and 
also Oracle. But I loaded Oracle 8.1.6. I had my database intact. I shutdown the 
database before reloading NT. To my surprise I created the service and started the db 
and found working. 

Can anyone tell me how this can happen.

TIA
Venkat



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Imp problem

2001-07-27 Thread Djaroud Salim

hi,
I have an export with WE8DEC,
and i want do a full import on a database With WE8ISO8859P1 character set.

But avery time i do it a have a problem when he want to create indexes with:

ORA-01115: erreur E/S en lecture de blocs a partir du fic. 9 (bloc # 13)
ORA-01110: fichier de donnJes 9: 'file'
ORA-07372: sfrfb: erreur de lecture, lecture impossible du bloc demandJ du
fich
de BDD.
HP-UX Error: 14: Bad address

is this a bug of oracle ???

Oracle 7.3.4.0.0
HP-UX 10.20

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RE: Help need

2001-07-27 Thread Jäck Stephan

Deewaker, 
information you find with this select-stmt, perhaps you need to format the
output.
Depending on what you're looking for you should select either from the view:
user_indexes
all_indexes
dba_indexes
 
 select
   table_name,
   index_name,
   tablespace_name
from user_indexes 
group by table_name, index_name, tablespace_name;
 
 
TGIF
 
Stephan

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HI DBA Guru's 

I wanted to know all the Index names under respective table spaces 

For example 

Tablespace is Production 
Table name : customer, item, supplier 
index Names  idx_customer_custid 
  idx_customer_name 
  idx_item_itemid 
  idx_item_name 
  idx_supplier_itemid 
  idx_supplier_name 

Tablespace is Quality 
Table name : customer, item, supplier 
index Names  idx_customer_custid 
  idx_customer_name 
  idx_item_itemid 
  idx_item_name 
  idx_supplier_itemid 
  idx_supplier_name 

Tablespace is Development 
Table name : customer, item, supplier 
index Names  idx_customer_custid 
  idx_customer_name 
  idx_item_itemid 
  idx_item_name 
  idx_supplier_itemid 
  idx_supplier_name 

with warm regards, 

Deewaker G. V. 

 

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Re: Help need

2001-07-27 Thread Saurabh Sharma
Title: Help need



Hi deewakar,

hope this will help..

SELECT 
TABLESPACE_NAME,TABLE_NAME,INDEX_NAME FROM DBA_INDEXESORDER BY 1,2,3/

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  Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 2:20 PM
  Subject: Help need
  
  HI DBA Guru's 
  I wanted to know all the Index 
  names under respective table spaces 
  For example 
  Tablespace is Production 
   Table name : customer, item, supplier  
  index Names idx_customer_custid 
   

  idx_customer_name  

  idx_item_itemid  

  idx_item_name  

  idx_supplier_itemid  

  idx_supplier_name  
  Tablespace is Quality 
   Table name : customer, item, supplier  
  index Names idx_customer_custid 
   

  idx_customer_name  

  idx_item_itemid  

  idx_item_name  

  idx_supplier_itemid  

  idx_supplier_name 
  Tablespace is Development 
   Table name : customer, item, supplier  
  index Names idx_customer_custid 
   

  idx_customer_name  

  idx_item_itemid  

  idx_item_name  

  idx_supplier_itemid  

  idx_supplier_name 
  with warm regards, 
  Deewaker G. V. 
  Baazee.com India Pvt. Ltd. 
  (: 4611323 Extn: 216 Fax : 4611324 
  Deewaker G.V..vcf 
  


ORACLE8i cc compiler on SOLARIS

2001-07-27 Thread okhalid


hello GURU DBAs

i would like to know if  cc compiler is required for installing ORACLE 8i
on Solaris 2.6
or is the gcc compiler required?

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Re: ORACLE8i cc compiler on SOLARIS

2001-07-27 Thread C.S.Venkata Subramanian

Hi,
If u are compiling any Pro*C programs then u need 'cc' compiler. For normal 
installation 'gcc' compiler is good enough.

HTH
Venkat
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i would like to know if  cc compiler is required for installing ORACLE 8i
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or is the gcc compiler required?

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RE: Oracle pricing

2001-07-27 Thread O'Neill, Sean

Someone mentioned a site licence in their post.  I did not know Oracle do
site licences, a sales rep told me they didn't.  Is this still the case?.
My experience of local area sales folk is that they don't seem to be too
concerned about business.  They are so slllooo at responding to RFIs
etc.  Is there an independent source for checking out licence options?.  If
there are any Oracle certified partners out there in Ireland lurking about
contact me back channel to make yourself known to me, though I'm not
promising any business.  I don't know who you are yet 'cos I'm still waiting
for a list of you from Oracle!!!

As for the audit gig, what annoys me is that when we buy a licence we get
demands to pay invoice for same pronto but we don't get any confirmation of
the licence any other way.  It seems to be on a database somewhere or other
but I don't know if I should have a piece of paper for same with a specific
licence number, start date and expiriation date of licence, licence type,
support terms etc.

I can hear echos of team music to SHAFT... =:-0


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Solaris Release Vs. Version

2001-07-27 Thread prasad maganti

hi dba's

can any body tell me the difference between the
release and version of Sun solaris.

i am working on solaris platform.

when i login to the server, i get prompt Sun 5.7

where the version is 2.6 

what is the difference between these 2?

prasad.


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Year of Unix file

2001-07-27 Thread prasad maganti

Hi dba's

when i list the unix file (solaris), with ls -lt
command , i am able to see the time, month, date that
is created.

is there any way to see the year that is created.

any commands

prasad.

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Rollback seg for big job

2001-07-27 Thread prasad maganti

Hi dba's

can anybody clarify my doubt reg. RBS.

i need to run a very big job in night times.

so , i have to create a very bigh rollback segment
purely intended for that job.

so i will set at sql

set trnx use rollback seg..

my doubt is whether this rollback segment stores the
rollback of my job or will it allow any other rollback
of the database (that is not part of my job)

prasad.

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ORA-21560 when trying to use the dbms_lob.loadfromfile function

2001-07-27 Thread Beatriz Martínez Jiménez


Hello list,
I get this error, working with the dbms_lob package.
 (NT4, oracle 8.1.7)
 This is the sequence of steps I have followed:
 CREATE OR REPLACE DIRECTORY DIRECT_IMAGEN AS 'E:\DIRECT_IMAGEN';
 CREATE OR REPLACE PROCEDURE insert_image
 AS
 file BFILE;
 lob BLOB;
 BEGIN
 insert into t_image (id, image_lob) VALUES (5, EMPTY_BLOB())
 return image_lob into lob;
 file:=bfilename('DIRECT_IMAGEN','foto1.gif');
 dbms_lob.fileopen(file, dbms_lob.file_readonly);
 dbms_output.put_line(dbms_lob.getlength(lob));
 dbms_lob.loadfromfile(lob, file, dbms_lob.getlength(lob));
 dbms_lob.fileclose(file);
 commit;
 exec insert_image;
 ORA-21560: argument 3 null, not valid or out of range.
 The third argument is the length of the image, which is equal
to 0.
 The directory is in the local machine, as well as the image,
and this machine is the database server.
The user has read privileges on this directory,
 What am I doing wrong? A lot of thanks.

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Re: severe lib cache contention - how did i solve it

2001-07-27 Thread ARUN K C

u did not have to do that the timed_statistics and sql_trace if set to false 
will do the job



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list,
i increased the kgl latches to 11 (from 3)
and switched OFF the timed statistics

and all the waits for lib cache and shared pool latch are gone !!

thanks for pointing me to the timed statistic bug.. (i dont know how much
the kgl
parameter helped though)

regards
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RE: ORACLE8i cc compiler on SOLARIS

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Re: Year of Unix file

2001-07-27 Thread Carlo Vaccari


 when i list the unix file (solaris), with ls -lt
 command , i am able to see the time, month, date that
 is created.
 
 is there any way to see the year that is created.

The 8th field of ls -lt indicates the hour if the file was created in
the current year, otherwise it indicates the year.

ciao
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RE: Rollback seg for big job

2001-07-27 Thread Jon Walthour



Prasad:

As far as I know (and listers please correct me if I'm wrong)
you can't single out the rollback segment you are using for that
big transaction EXCLUSIVELY. In other words, since the rbs is
still online and available, there is still the potential that
another transaction could use that rbs as well. However, if you're
running it at night, wouldn't your activity level be lower and
thus the odds of getting another transaction in the same rbs
be much lower as well?

Just my 2 cents.

Jon Walthour

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Hi dba's

can anybody clarify my doubt reg. RBS.

i need to run a very big job in night times.

so , i have to create a very bigh rollback segment
purely intended for that job.

so i will set at sql

set trnx use rollback seg..

my doubt is whether this rollback segment stores the
rollback of my job or will it allow any other rollback
of the database (that is not part of my job)

prasad.

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RE: Solaris Release Vs. Version

2001-07-27 Thread Christopher Spence

There is probably something wrong or it is truly 2.7.

2.6 is Version 6 of Solaris
2.7 is Version 7 of Solaris

They are completely different versions.  Nothing about them is similar in
terms of release.

Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen.

Christopher R. Spence
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hi dba's

can any body tell me the difference between the
release and version of Sun solaris.

i am working on solaris platform.

when i login to the server, i get prompt Sun 5.7

where the version is 2.6 

what is the difference between these 2?

prasad.


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RE: OT: Oracle pricing

2001-07-27 Thread Cherie_Machler


That was exactly what happened to us.  They said they wanted to schedule
a time to come in and do an audit.   My boss was nervous because we had
learned recently that we were out of compliance with our licensing.  So he
did negotiate with them at that point.  He was happy because they cut him
a good deal - although we realized later that the contract only covered 8i.
It is going to cost us extra to upgrade to 9i.

Has anyone had that happen to them?  Where it was extra cost to license
the move from 8i to 9i on the Enterprise Edition of the server?

Cherie Machler
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Dick,

they suggested that they might be coming around to perform an audit!

Are you serious?  They actually said they wanted to do this?  Sounds like
they've been watching the Soprano's!

If this isn't extortion, I don't know what is!  I hope you kicked their
rooty-tooty asses out of your office and told them not to come back!  Next
thing you know, you'll get a wrapped package delivered containing burnt-out
disk-drives.
Old Oracle Message - your support person had a head crash

Tom Mercadante
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Lisa,

I've not experienced that particular behavior from the Oracle sales
droids.
But, we did have ours in yesterday (new droids wanting to put faces to
names)
and since Oracle's revenues are down they suggested that they might be
coming
around to perform an audit!  Now that I think is a heavy handed way of
pumping
up the revenue stream.  Guess I'd better learn DB2!!

Dick Goulet

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Has anyone experienced Oracle sales people gouging each other?  Seems like
they are getting pretty cut throat.  I got one quote for $400,000, and a
second quote for less than 25% of that, from two different people.  WOW.
They are beginning to sound like the company I work for - different story
from different people.

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Re: Rollback seg for big job

2001-07-27 Thread Ron Rogers

prasad.
In order to insure that your job is the only one using it or as closely as possible, 
keep the RBS in the offline mode until you need it. Then make the RBS online, 
issue your job, and make the RBS offline. The job will continue to use the RBS and 
other jobs will see that it is offline and not be allowed to use it.
ROR mª¿ªm

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Hi dba's

can anybody clarify my doubt reg. RBS.

i need to run a very big job in night times.

so , i have to create a very bigh rollback segment
purely intended for that job.

so i will set at sql

set trnx use rollback seg..

my doubt is whether this rollback segment stores the
rollback of my job or will it allow any other rollback
of the database (that is not part of my job)

prasad.

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RE: severe lib cache contention - how did i solve it

2001-07-27 Thread Rahul

now i have another question

the app is using literals all the time...shouldn;t the DB be showing
lib cache latch contention ?? 



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 u did not have to do that the timed_statistics and sql_trace if set to
 false 
 will do the job
 
 
 
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 list,
 i increased the kgl latches to 11 (from 3)
 and switched OFF the timed statistics
 
 and all the waits for lib cache and shared pool latch are gone !!
 
 thanks for pointing me to the timed statistic bug.. (i dont know how much
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Re: RAC/OPS changes

2001-07-27 Thread Thater, William

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ORA-99 : Brain Overload.;-)

this one i'll save and keep rereading until it makes sense.

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Re: Securing passwords in scripts

2001-07-27 Thread =?x-user-defined?q?B=FClent=20A=E7=FDkg=F6z?=

me too.
NT and unix ,
thank you
 

paquette stephane wrote:

 Me too.
 On unix and NT

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OT RE: Dangerous AIX Bug!

2001-07-27 Thread Mohan, Ross

:-)))

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I am working on my husband to put one in the freezer now.  I am sure he
will.  As soon as we do I will send you a pricelist. I am looking for a
cheap supply of styrofoam coolers.  I can get the dry ice nearby so were all
set except for the beef.

Ruth
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 :)

 My biggest concern is porting db's
 from other unix flavors...i wish there
 were a cross platfrom shell porting
 guide.

 Sure, ls is ls, but every mfgr
 changes the order/formatting of
 the flags and/or output.

 I am compiling responses and will post
 a summary. I have some good stuff so
 far

 hth

 Ross

 p.s. I wish i could get some (mostly)
 grass fed beef! ;-)

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 Hey Guys,

 I  want in on this discussion too.  We are running 8.0.6.3 but we are
 getting 2 new AIX boxes and will have the option of using 64-bit.  Please
 include me in any of this discussion.

 Thanks!

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  Ross, we are also running AIX 4.3.3 with a mix of 8.0.5.2.1 and 8.1.7
  databases, headed to all 8.1.7.   We are mostly running S80s here.
  Just shoot me a note and we'll talk.
 
 
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9i for AIX available now

2001-07-27 Thread Harald . Kosian

Hi,

9i for AIX (64 Bit) is now available on technet.
Could (successfully :-) ) download it in about
4 hours (~ 2,5 GB)

Greetings, Harald


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OT Rosetta Stone

2001-07-27 Thread Mohan, Ross

Yea, I wrote to the webmeister, telling
him he was a god. 

He chuckled and said no, just your humble editor. 

But he said it in twenty-three languages!

:-D

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this is amazingly wonderful.

heartfelt thanks!


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OH

MY

GOD.


that is s useful!  A blessing on your family, your family's family, and
your family's family's family.

Oh hell, throw in a beer for yourself.

thanks,

Ross

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Ross,

   Check this link. You may find it useful.

http://home.earthlink.net/~bhami/rosetta.html

Regards,
Denny

Mohan, Ross wrote:
 
  :)
 
  My biggest concern is porting db's
  from other unix flavors...i wish there
  were a cross platfrom shell porting
  guide.
 
  Sure, ls is ls, but every mfgr
  changes the order/formatting of
  the flags and/or output.
 
  I am compiling responses and will post
  a summary. I have some good stuff so
  far
 
  hth
 
  Ross
 
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  grass fed beef! ;-)

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RE: [Q] exp from 8.1.7 and import to 8.1.6?

2001-07-27 Thread Woody McKay

I just did this myself on Solaris.  You don't need to change the views,
just use the exp utility from 8.1.6. on the 8.1.7 database.  I had to do
a 8.1.6 install on another machine to get the utility.  There is a good
matrix on Metalink that shows the version compatibilities.

Sincerely,

Woody

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Thank you for your answer.  Can you tell me how to make it work?

Thanks.



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NO.

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I just upgrade ORACLE from 8.1.6 to 8.1.7 (SUn Solaris).  My question
is 
can
I export from 8.1.7 and bring the dump file import into 8.1.6 ORACLE 
server?


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RE: Rollback seg for big job

2001-07-27 Thread Rachel Carmichael

well.. you could sort of help to guarantee that no one else uses it.

First, bring it online, do a set transaction to use that rollback segment, 
then (in another session), take that rollback segment offline.

since you are already using it, it doesn't REALLY go offline (until your 
transaction ends) but no one else will be assigned to it either.

Sneaky.

Rachel


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Prasad:

As far as I know (and listers please correct me if I'm wrong)
you can't single out the rollback segment you are using for that
big transaction EXCLUSIVELY. In other words, since the rbs is
still online and available, there is still the potential that
another transaction could use that rbs as well. However, if you're
running it at night, wouldn't your activity level be lower and
thus the odds of getting another transaction in the same rbs
be much lower as well?

Just my 2 cents.

Jon Walthour

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 Hi dba's
 
 can anybody clarify my doubt reg. RBS.
 
 i need to run a very big job in night times.
 
 so , i have to create a very bigh rollback segment
 purely intended for that job.
 
 so i will set at sql
 
 set trnx use rollback seg..
 
 my doubt is whether this rollback segment stores the
 rollback of my job or will it allow any other rollback
 of the database (that is not part of my job)
 
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RE: RAC/OPS changes

2001-07-27 Thread Mohan, Ross

Scott, 

Thanks for the info, but aside from
the somewhat fleshy last paragraph, 
there's not much meat here. It sounds
rather like an Oracle marketing piece. 

For instance, do you have any pointers
or further information on the 27 patents you mentioned? 

Don't get me wrong: thanks for the effort behind the post, but.there's 
not much to chew on there


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Well you asked for this. Don't read this if you are faint
of heart and weak of mind.

Oracle9i Real Application Clusters is the next
evolutionary step up from Oracle Parallel Server, and is
the result of more than 6 years of development, 9
patents, and 18 additional patents pending. Oracle9i Real
Application Clusters are unique in that they provide:

Out-of-the-box, near-linear scaling transparency

Compatibility with all applications, with no redesign
required

Fast growth clusters, the ability to rapidly add nodes
and disk

Based on Oracle's Cache Fusion architecture, Oracle9i
Real Application Clusters provide transparent application
scalability by quickly and efficiently sharing frequently
accessed data across all the servers in a cluster,
resolving all manners of contention between servers in
the process.

In the Cache Fusion architecture, read requests may be
served by any of the memory caches in the cluster
database. In cases where data is being updated,
coordination between the caches of each server becomes
necessary so that both the data being read and the data
being updated are consistent and correct.

If the query request is served by a remote cache, then
the block is transferred across the high speed cluster
interconnect from one node's cache to another. This
fusing of the caches happens automatically and is
transparent to the application.  This transparency is the
key technology that provides the fast, efficient scaling
of Oracle9i Real Application Clusters.

I warned ya,

Scott

 [via Oracle-L digest]
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  I don't know exactly  the context in which you heard this (NT
  cluster specific?), 
 
 Don,
 
 Probably just my bad paraphrase of a dim recollection of a 
 fast/careless read of previous comments on the list.
 
 Can you give a brief explanation of what will be new/changed
 in RAC, and what it means?
 
 thanks,
 ep
 
 
 ...but rest assured that OPS is not going to be
  replaced, except in name.  The current party line is that real
  application clusters is a radical departure from OPS.  It simply
  isn't true.  RAC is a very major upgrade/rewrite and renaming of
  OPS, not a different technology.  There seems to be a *LOT* of
  misinformation floating around on this issue and much of it seems
  be coming from Oracle's marketing machine. 
 
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Re: formatting DBMS_OUTPUT

2001-07-27 Thread JRicard982

Try

DBMS_OUTPUT.PUT_LINE(TO_CHAR(amount_x), '999,999'))

Rick
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ORA-03127 during Export

2001-07-27 Thread Smith, Ron L.

We are getting an ORA-03127 during the Export of a 20G database. 
Noone else is one the system.  The error we are getting is:

ORA-03127 no new operations allowed until the active operation ends

 Cause: An attempt was made to execute a new operation before the active
non-blocking operation completed or a new  operation was attempted before
all the pieces of a column were inserted or fetched.

  Action: Execute the new operation after the non-blocking operation
completes. If piecewise binds/defines were done,  execute the new operation
after all the pieces have been inserted or fetched.

Any idea why this would happen and how to fix it?

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RE: [Q] exp from 8.1.7 and import to 8.1.6?

2001-07-27 Thread Kevin Kostyszyn

That is the way I did it as well, as long as I used the lower version
import/export utility all was fine.
KK

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I just did this myself on Solaris.  You don't need to change the views,
just use the exp utility from 8.1.6. on the 8.1.7 database.  I had to do
a 8.1.6 install on another machine to get the utility.  There is a good
matrix on Metalink that shows the version compatibilities.

Sincerely,

Woody

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Thank you for your answer.  Can you tell me how to make it work?

Thanks.



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NO.

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I just upgrade ORACLE from 8.1.6 to 8.1.7 (SUn Solaris).  My question
is
can
I export from 8.1.7 and bring the dump file import into 8.1.6 ORACLE
server?


Thanks.

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Re: Dangerous AIX Bug!

2001-07-27 Thread Joan Hsieh

Ross,

We're running 8160 ops on aix 4.3.3.

Joan

Durinda.Jones wrote:
 
 Ross,
 
 We're running 8162 OPS on AIX 4.3.  Chat away...
 
 Durinda
 
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 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 ...just kidding, thought that would get your attention.
 
 But seriously:  does anyone out there use Oracle 8i on AIX 4.3 or 5L?
 
 I'd like to chat w/you if so.
 
 Thanks!
 
 - Ross
 
 p.s.  hmmm...maybe there *is* a bug in AIX and that's one of
 the things I'll learn:-)
 
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 Ron,
 
 I've attached one that I also got from the list some time ago, you may need
 to use something like bablefish to translate the comments :)
 
 HTH
 
 Mark
 
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 Last week I was bit by a corrupt block on an index.  I run Analyze every
 week which I found has been blowing up for some time due to the block
 corruption.  Since Analyze does not create a log I did not know the Analyze
 was blowing up.  Now I know that there are messages in the alert log that
 would have told me I had problems with the Analyze and the index.
 
 To make a long story short I need a good log scan script.  Hopefully one
 that will work on Unix and NT.  Mainly Unix.  If anyone can help I would
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Collection

2001-07-27 Thread Eca Eca

Hi Friends :

does anyone use the resource collection in 8i.

wich advantages we have using it ?

Are there problems using it ?

Are there performance problemns ? Spaces ?

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RE: [Q] exp from 8.1.7 and import to 8.1.6?

2001-07-27 Thread Tirumala, Surendra

Yes you are right.
Just now I had gone through that note(Note:132904.1).
We will have to chnge the views if you want to export/import across the
major versions,
i.e between 8.1 and 8.0  between 8.1 and 7.3  ...
And last time I had to do this was from 8.1.6 to 8.0.5

Sorry for confusing

Suren

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I just did this myself on Solaris.  You don't need to change the views,
just use the exp utility from 8.1.6. on the 8.1.7 database.  I had to do
a 8.1.6 install on another machine to get the utility.  There is a good
matrix on Metalink that shows the version compatibilities.

Sincerely,

Woody

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Thank you for your answer.  Can you tell me how to make it work?

Thanks.



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NO.

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I just upgrade ORACLE from 8.1.6 to 8.1.7 (SUn Solaris).  My question
is 
can
I export from 8.1.7 and bring the dump file import into 8.1.6 ORACLE 
server?


Thanks.

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RE: Dangerous AIX Bug!

2001-07-27 Thread Tirumala, Surendra

Denny, Thank very much for the link.
We MAY have to port our shell scripts from HP-UX to AIX, soon.

Suren

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Ross,

  Check this link. You may find it useful.

http://home.earthlink.net/~bhami/rosetta.html

Regards,
Denny

Mohan, Ross wrote:
 
 :)
 
 My biggest concern is porting db's
 from other unix flavors...i wish there
 were a cross platfrom shell porting
 guide.
 
 Sure, ls is ls, but every mfgr
 changes the order/formatting of
 the flags and/or output.
 
 I am compiling responses and will post
 a summary. I have some good stuff so
 far
 
 hth
 
 Ross
 
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RE: formatting DBMS_OUTPUT

2001-07-27 Thread Kevin Lange

Close, but you have an extra parenthesis:

DBMS_OUTPUT.PUT_LINE(TO_CHAR(amount_x), '999,999'))

should be 

DBMS_OUTPUT.PUT_LINE(TO_CHAR(amount_x, '999,999'))


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Try

DBMS_OUTPUT.PUT_LINE(TO_CHAR(amount_x), '999,999'))

Rick
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Medtronic

2001-07-27 Thread kjanusz

Is there anyone using this list from Medtronic in  
Minnesota?

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RE: Year of Unix file

2001-07-27 Thread Deshpande, Kirti

Correct, as far as the 8th field reporting the year. 

But the year replaces the time in the 8th field only when the last
modification time for the file is more than 6 month (even if it is in the
current year :) 

For example, take a look at line 1,2 (less than 6 month old as of today) 
3,4,5 (over 6 months old as of today)..

-rw-rw-r--   1 oracle dba   2880 Feb  5 08:05 junk.lst
-rwxrwx---   1 oracle dba410 Jan 30 11:08 show_all.ksh
-rwx--   1 oracle dba 77 Jan 25  2001 t1
-rw-rw-r--   1 oracle dba   3971 Jan 10  2001 my.lst
-rw-rw-r--   1 oracle dba720 Jan  7  2001 bdf.out


HTH...

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  when i list the unix file (solaris), with ls -lt
  command , i am able to see the time, month, date that
  is created.
  
  is there any way to see the year that is created.
 
 The 8th field of ls -lt indicates the hour if the file was created in
 the current year, otherwise it indicates the year.
 
 ciao
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RE: Solaris Release Vs. Version

2001-07-27 Thread prasad maganti

Hi

thanq for responding .

but still i am not clear about it.

can you clarify.

because in oracle we call version 8.1.7  ...

but here what is the release and version.

can you go more deep?

2.6 is version 6 of oracle

is it any hardware release.

prasad
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 2.7.
 
 2.6 is Version 6 of Solaris
 2.7 is Version 7 of Solaris
 
 They are completely different versions.  Nothing
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 terms of release.
 
 Walking on water and developing software from a
 specification are easy if
 both are frozen.
 
 Christopher R. Spence
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 hi dba's
 
 can any body tell me the difference between the
 release and version of Sun solaris.
 
 i am working on solaris platform.
 
 when i login to the server, i get prompt Sun 5.7
 
 where the version is 2.6 
 
 what is the difference between these 2?
 
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OT RE: Dangerous AIX Bug!

2001-07-27 Thread Gene Sais

Yeah, I had to drop off the informix list for the AIX list.  Good choice I think.  
Actually this post might be a good one for the AIX'ers.  Seems like a lot of ppl are 
switching to AIX, h, maybe buy some IBM stock :).  I just wish I had an EMC sym 
rather than this shark stuck in Raid-5.  I need BCV's to back up a 1TB db.  Not sure 
if the shark flashcopy will do the trick.  Anyone on this list use flashcopy?

Gene

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Nice link. Thanks!

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Ross,

  Check this link. You may find it useful.

http://home.earthlink.net/~bhami/rosetta.html 

Regards,
Denny

Mohan, Ross wrote:
 
 :)
 
 My biggest concern is porting db's
 from other unix flavors...i wish there
 were a cross platfrom shell porting
 guide.
 
 Sure, ls is ls, but every mfgr
 changes the order/formatting of
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 far
 
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RE: formatting DBMS_OUTPUT

2001-07-27 Thread JRicard982

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Redo for Rollback segs

2001-07-27 Thread prasad maganti

When we enter data  or delete date(modifying data
blocks) , that will generate some redo.

and my doubt is:

when we delete some data in the database, that will
further  insert information into Rollback segment
transaction tables (means furtherly it is modifying
some block of oracle).

Will this generate Redo?

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RE: Year of Unix file

2001-07-27 Thread Kevin Lange

If you look in the man pages on thels command it says something
about the LC_TIME  environment variable being used to control the date
string.   You might investigate that .  

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 when i list the unix file (solaris), with ls -lt
 command , i am able to see the time, month, date that
 is created.
 
 is there any way to see the year that is created.

The 8th field of ls -lt indicates the hour if the file was created in
the current year, otherwise it indicates the year.

ciao
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RE: Redo for Rollback segs

2001-07-27 Thread Deshpande, Kirti

Yes, __ALL__ changes to any of the database blocks are recorded in the Redo.

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 When we enter data  or delete date(modifying data
 blocks) , that will generate some redo.
 
 and my doubt is:
 
 when we delete some data in the database, that will
 further  insert information into Rollback segment
 transaction tables (means furtherly it is modifying
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 Will this generate Redo?
 
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RE: Best way to upgrade database/move data

2001-07-27 Thread Mark Leith

Rick,

I see you've already had some good advice on exp/imp 'ing the data, so I'll
leave that as is.

One question - Why are you moving to NT again? If this is an all new server,
why don't you slap Win2K on there? Much better platform..

Cheers

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Hi DBAs,

Currently I have NT server 4.0/Oracle 8.0.5 with about 400 million
records/450 tables,indices,etc.

We will be getting a new NT server with Oracle 8.1.7.  We will increase
block size from 2k to 8k

What would be the best way to move data/users/sequences,etc from existing
server to new server?  Essentially replicate everything from old server to
new server.

Thanks
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RE: moving tables to a different tablespace

2001-07-27 Thread Adrian Roe

Have you looked at ALTER TABLE...MOVE... ?

Ade

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Hi Group,
Please explain what I am doing wrong.
1)  exp outln/outln@webprod mailto:outln/outln@webprod  file=exp_file
tables = 'OL$' 'OL$HINTS'
2)  Dropped the tables: 'OL$' and 'OL$HINTS' on webprod
3)  Created tablespace outln_ts on webprod
4)  Altered user outln default tablespace outln_ts
5)  imp outln/outln@webprod mailto:outln/outln@webprod  file=exp_file
tables = 'OL$' 'OL$HINTS'
6)  SQL select table_name, tablespace_name
   from dba_tables 
   where owner = 'OUTLN';

  TABLE_NAME TABLESPACE_NAME
--
--
 OL$SYSTEM
 OL$HINTS   SYSTEM
 XX
OUTLN_TS

WHY are the tables being re-imported back into SYSTEM tablespace 

Oracle 8.1.7 on Sun Solaris 5.7

TIA

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RE: CURSOR_SHARING = FORCE

2001-07-27 Thread Larry Elkins

Mark,

Thanks for running the test. I would be interested if anyone could test on
the latest version of 8.1.7 on Win2000. I called a friend and had them test
on the latest release on HP-UX and they couldn't duplicate the bug.

My inability to duplicate on *my* machine was due to a brain cramp -- I
didn't force a hard parse of the statement like I had at the client. Cursor
sharing is set to exact on my machine. I tried the statement with the
trailing space, it worked. I then set to force and re-executed with no
problem. But, the statement wasn't hard parsed since it was found in the
shared pool. I can now duplicate without any problem by simply forcing my
statement to be hard parsed (just like I was doing on the client's
machine -- duh!):

SQL select 'x ' from dual;   This Works (trailing space which didn't
fail for you)

'X
--
x

SQL alter session set cursor_sharing = force;  Change to force

Session altered.

SQL select 'x ' from dual;  still works but it wasn't hard parsed.

'X
--
x

SQL Select 'x ' from dual;  force a hard parse by changing lower case s
to upper case
Select 'x ' from dual
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [17182], [366030328], [], [], [],
[], [], []

So, it looks like the problem is with just cursor sharing itself (though it
could still be a mix of parameters -- and I'm not going to try every
combination!!!).

Thanks for the help. I don't know anything else you can do. I wrapped up the
contract with the client yesterday after taking care of the major issues I
was brought in to resolve. They can handle this issue and some other minor
ones. Since I *am* curious, I will probably give their DBA a call in a week
or two to see if they and/or Oracle solved this with the latest version and
patches for 8.1.7. And maybe someone on the list will be able to test
against and up to date 8.1.7 on Win2k

Regards,

Larry G. Elkins
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 Larry,

 Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.7.0.0 - Production
 With the Partitioning option
 JServer Release 8.1.7.0.0 - Production

 select 'x ' from dual;

 'X'
 
 x

 select 'x' from dual;

 'X'
 
 x

 select ' x' from dual;
 select ' x' from dual
 *
 ERROR at line 1:
 ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [17182], [167886636],
 [], [], [],
 [], [], []

 alter system set cursor_sharing = exact;

 System altered.

 select ' x' from dual;

 'X
 --
  x

 What can I share with you to help you out? This is on a test
 database only,
 so just let me know. Also note that the error was only thrown on
 mine with a
 leading space.

 This is Win2K Professional SP2.

 Cheers

 Mark

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RE: Solaris Release Vs. Version

2001-07-27 Thread Austin, Steve S

The module that is responding to uname -a is SunOS.  This is different from
Solaris, but it's confusing why.  I guess historically the primary interface
was command-line, and not CDE?  (i.e. maybe solaris:sunos ::
gui:command-line)

Here's a table I found on the web that may help...

SunOS 5.3 = Solaris 2.3
SunOS 5.4 = Solaris 2.4
SunOS 5.5 = Solaris 2.5
SunOS 5.5.1 = Solaris 2.5.1
SunOS 5.6 = Solaris 2.6
SunOS 5.7 = Solaris 7 (aka Solaris 2.7)
SunOS 5.8 = Solaris 8 (aka Solaris 2.8)

.. .and before you get too riled up, ask yourself why Oracle 8.1.6 is also
known as 8iv2  :)

happy weekend everyone!
Steve

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Hi

thanq for responding .

but still i am not clear about it.

can you clarify.

because in oracle we call version 8.1.7  ...

but here what is the release and version.

can you go more deep?

2.6 is version 6 of oracle

is it any hardware release.

prasad
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 2.6 is Version 6 of Solaris
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 hi dba's
 
 can any body tell me the difference between the
 release and version of Sun solaris.
 
 i am working on solaris platform.
 
 when i login to the server, i get prompt Sun 5.7
 
 where the version is 2.6 
 
 what is the difference between these 2?
 
 prasad.
 
 
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Another Braindead Friday...

2001-07-27 Thread Scott Shafer

I have RTFM'd re: the following problem in HPUX11, Oracle 7.3.3:

--I have user1 who has select privileges on another schema's table
(user2.tab) through Select Any Table privilege.

--user1 creates a view on user2.tab and grants select on the view to
other users (user3..n) through a shared role.

--When user3, et al tries to select from the view they get the infamous
ORA-1720 - Grant option does not exist for xxx.xxx error.

--I know you I can grant select on user2.tab with grant option to user1
and solve this, but I would rather not do that if at all possible.  

--Also, I could create the view as user2 and not have the problem.  The
issue here is user1 needs to create the above type of views on the fly
(please! I didn't design it!!!), and with 30 sites to support, there is
no way to keep up if I have to create the views one by one.

Is there any way around the situation besides the select with grant
option clause to user1 (view owner)?  
Am I an idiot?  
Are sheep considered dates in TX?
HELP

Thanks,

Scott Shafer
San Antonio, TX

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RE: Redo for Rollback segs

2001-07-27 Thread Rachel Carmichael

to expand on this:

changes to the rollback segments will generate entries in the redo logs. 
They ARE database blocks.

In fact, rolling back something will generate change vectors as well.

Rachel


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Yes, __ALL__ changes to any of the database blocks are recorded in the 
Redo.

Regards,

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  Subject:Redo for Rollback segs
 
  When we enter data  or delete date(modifying data
  blocks) , that will generate some redo.
 
  and my doubt is:
 
  when we delete some data in the database, that will
  further  insert information into Rollback segment
  transaction tables (means furtherly it is modifying
  some block of oracle).
 
  Will this generate Redo?
 
  prasad
 
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PL/SQL Question after migrating from 7.3.4 to 8.1.7

2001-07-27 Thread Deen Dayal

Hi,

I just migrated from 734 to 817, I used migration utility. Migration went fine. Some 
of my package specification have become
invalid.

When I tried to recompile, I got the following error
30/41PLS-00206: %TYPE must be applied to a variable, column, field or
 attribute, not to UC9_CLAIM_AMOUNT

The source is listed below. uc9_correspondence is table in my schema. I do not know 
why this is throwing up an error where as 734
was happy with it.

   TYPE tb_uc9_corres_type IS TABLE OF uc9_correspondence%TYPE
INDEX BY BINARY_INTEGER;


Any help is appreciated

Thanks in ADvance
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Re: Redo for Rollback segs

2001-07-27 Thread Thater, William

Rachel Carmichael wrote:
 
 to expand on this:
 
 changes to the rollback segments will generate entries in the redo logs.
 They ARE database blocks.
 
 In fact, rolling back something will generate change vectors as well.
 
 Rachel

kinda dumb question, do changes to rollback segmants use rollback
segments?  and could you get the changes to rollback segments out of the
logs with logminer?

OK so it's 2 kind of dumb questions, i've been quiet lately.;-)  and no
i'm not sure why you'd want to get the changes out, but it would be
interesting if you could.


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Re: Medtronic

2001-07-27 Thread Cherie_Machler


My husband works at Medtronic in Minnesota.
What are you interested in?

Cherie Machler
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Rollback Segment needs recovery

2001-07-27 Thread Cale, Rick T (Richard)

Hi DBAs,

Oracle 8.0.5/Windows NT4

I shutdown database normal and restarted ok.
I tried to drop a rollback segment  and getora-1545 rollback segment not
available.
When I select from dba_rollback_segs I get needs recovery.

I want to drop rollback tablespace and all rollback segment then rebuild
because I got datafile corruption error.
I am in noarchive mode.

Any ideas how to proceed?

Thanks
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RE: Rollback Segment needs recovery

2001-07-27 Thread Cale, Rick T (Richard)

I was able to do everything I needed by using undocumented/unsupported
_offline_rollback_segments parameter.

Rick

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Hi DBAs,

Oracle 8.0.5/Windows NT4

I shutdown database normal and restarted ok.
I tried to drop a rollback segment  and getora-1545 rollback segment not
available.
When I select from dba_rollback_segs I get needs recovery.

I want to drop rollback tablespace and all rollback segment then rebuild
because I got datafile corruption error.
I am in noarchive mode.

Any ideas how to proceed?

Thanks
Rick


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Re: Rollback seg for big job

2001-07-27 Thread Joan Hsieh

Rachel,

we are 8.16. We tried on line a bigrolbk, set tran on this rollback and
took it offline. Guess what? the job was killed also. Oracle support
said this is a bug, should be fixed 8.17. 

Joan

Rachel Carmichael wrote:
 
 well.. you could sort of help to guarantee that no one else uses it.
 
 First, bring it online, do a set transaction to use that rollback segment,
 then (in another session), take that rollback segment offline.
 
 since you are already using it, it doesn't REALLY go offline (until your
 transaction ends) but no one else will be assigned to it either.
 
 Sneaky.
 
 Rachel
 
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 Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 04:51:09 -0800
 
 
 
 Prasad:
 
 As far as I know (and listers please correct me if I'm wrong)
 you can't single out the rollback segment you are using for that
 big transaction EXCLUSIVELY. In other words, since the rbs is
 still online and available, there is still the potential that
 another transaction could use that rbs as well. However, if you're
 running it at night, wouldn't your activity level be lower and
 thus the odds of getting another transaction in the same rbs
 be much lower as well?
 
 Just my 2 cents.
 
 Jon Walthour
 
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  Hi dba's
  
  can anybody clarify my doubt reg. RBS.
  
  i need to run a very big job in night times.
  
  so , i have to create a very bigh rollback segment
  purely intended for that job.
  
  so i will set at sql
  
  set trnx use rollback seg..
  
  my doubt is whether this rollback segment stores the
  rollback of my job or will it allow any other rollback
  of the database (that is not part of my job)
  
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RE: RE: CURSOR_SHARING = FORCE

2001-07-27 Thread Jon Walthour



Larry, et. al.,

I'm running 8.1.7.1.1 on Win 2K Pro SP2. I did the following:

alter session set cursor_sharing=force;

select 'x' from dual;
select 'X' from dual;
select ' x' from dual;
select ' X' from dual;
select 'x ' from dual;
select ' x ' from dual;
select ' X ' from dual;

No problems with any of 'em.

Jon Walthour

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Mark,

Thanks for running the test. I would be interested if anyone
could test on
the latest version of 8.1.7 on Win2000. I called a friend and
had them test
on the latest release on HP-UX and they couldn't duplicate the
bug.

My inability to duplicate on *my* machine was due to a brain
cramp -- I
didn't force a hard parse of the statement like I had at the
client. Cursor
sharing is set to exact on my machine. I tried the statement
with the
trailing space, it worked. I then set to force and re-executed
with no
problem. But, the statement wasn't hard parsed since it was
found in the
shared pool. I can now duplicate without any problem by simply
forcing my
statement to be hard parsed (just like I was doing on the client's
machine -- duh!):

SQL select 'x ' from dual;   this works (trailing space
which didn't
fail for you)

'x
--
x

sql alter session set cursor_sharing = force;  change to
force

session altered.

sql select 'x ' from dual;  still works but it wasn't hard
parsed.

'x
--
x

sql Select 'x ' from dual;  force a hard parse by changing
lower case s
to upper case
select 'x ' from dual
*
error at line 1:
ora-00600: internal error code, arguments: [17182], [366030328],
[], [], [],
[], [], []

so, it looks like the problem is with just cursor sharing itself
(though it
could still be a mix of parameters -- and i'm not going to try
every
combination!!!).

thanks for the help. i don't know anything else you can do. i
wrapped up the
contract with the client yesterday after taking care of the major
issues i
was brought in to resolve. they can handle this issue and some
other minor
ones. since i *am* curious, i will probably give their dba a
call in a week
or two to see if they and/or oracle solved this with the latest
version and
patches for 8.1.7. and maybe someone on the list will be able
to test
against and up to date 8.1.7 on win2k

regards,

larry g. elkins
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 Larry,

 Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.7.0.0 - Production
 With the Partitioning option
 JServer Release 8.1.7.0.0 - Production

 select 'x ' from dual;

 'X'
 
 x

 select 'x' from dual;

 'X'
 
 x

 select ' x' from dual;
 select ' x' from dual
 *
 ERROR at line 1:
 ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [17182], [167886636],
 [], [], [],
 [], [], []

 alter system set cursor_sharing = exact;

 System altered.

 select ' x' from dual;

 'X
 --
  x

 What can I share with you to help you out? This is on a test
 database only,
 so just let me know. Also note that the error was only thrown
on
 mine with a
 leading space.

 This is Win2K Professional SP2.

 Cheers

 Mark

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SUN cluster error

2001-07-27 Thread Seema Singh

Hi
When I shutdown and start sun cluster.I got following error
Jul 27 12:49:54 ID[SUNWcluster.ha.haoracle_fmon.2050]: :samp: RDBMS error, 
but HA-RDBMS Oracle will take no action for this error code
where samp=DB name
Let me know what could be reason?Any suggestion.
Thanks
-Seema


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RE: PL/SQL Question after migrating from 7.3.4 to 8.1.7

2001-07-27 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F

Deen,

shouldn't the statement be:

   TYPE tb_uc9_corres_type IS TABLE OF uc9_correspondence.COLUMN_NAME%TYPE
INDEX BY BINARY_INTEGER;

??

The %TYPE in your PL/SQL is being applied to the table which, I think, is
not valid.  A PL/SQL table is a one-column data type, indexed via the
BINARY_INTEGER index.

You could easily fix this by finding an assignment statement elsewhere in
your code to see what you are trying to store.

hope this helps


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Hi,

I just migrated from 734 to 817, I used migration utility. Migration went
fine. Some of my package specification have become
invalid.

When I tried to recompile, I got the following error
30/41PLS-00206: %TYPE must be applied to a variable, column, field or
 attribute, not to UC9_CLAIM_AMOUNT

The source is listed below. uc9_correspondence is table in my schema. I do
not know why this is throwing up an error where as 734
was happy with it.

   TYPE tb_uc9_corres_type IS TABLE OF uc9_correspondence%TYPE
INDEX BY BINARY_INTEGER;


Any help is appreciated

Thanks in ADvance
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RE: Another Braindead Friday...

2001-07-27 Thread Hillman, Alex

another user should have select privileges for underlying table directly,
not thru the role.

Alex Hillman

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I have RTFM'd re: the following problem in HPUX11, Oracle 7.3.3:

--I have user1 who has select privileges on another schema's table
(user2.tab) through Select Any Table privilege.

--user1 creates a view on user2.tab and grants select on the view to
other users (user3..n) through a shared role.

--When user3, et al tries to select from the view they get the infamous
ORA-1720 - Grant option does not exist for xxx.xxx error.

--I know you I can grant select on user2.tab with grant option to user1
and solve this, but I would rather not do that if at all possible.  

--Also, I could create the view as user2 and not have the problem.  The
issue here is user1 needs to create the above type of views on the fly
(please! I didn't design it!!!), and with 30 sites to support, there is
no way to keep up if I have to create the views one by one.

Is there any way around the situation besides the select with grant
option clause to user1 (view owner)?  
Am I an idiot?  
Are sheep considered dates in TX?
HELP

Thanks,

Scott Shafer
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Encrypting a password

2001-07-27 Thread Rick_Stephenson


How can I encrypt a password in Oracle that I could use to compare with an
encrypted password in /etc/passwd on a Sun Unix box?
I am on Solaris 2.8 running Oracle 8.1.7.

I have read about encrypting and decrypting using the dbms_obfuscation
package, but this does not seem to get me what I am looking for.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Rick Stephenson


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Re: Medtronic

2001-07-27 Thread kjanusz

On Medtronic's career web site they are looking to fill 
the following positions:

Sr. DBA Project Mgr
Sr. DBA (2 positions)
Prin. DBA

I would like to find out who the hiring manager is, 
their mailing address and direct phone #.

I already sent my resume to HR.

Your help getting me this information will be greatly 
appreciated.

Thanks,

Ken Janusz, CPIM
 
 My husband works at Medtronic in Minnesota.
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RE: Solaris Release Vs. Version

2001-07-27 Thread Christopher Spence

2.6 = Version 6 
2.7 = Version 7

The 2 can safely be ignored, it is in fact replaced with a 5 now after
version 4.

So it is really 5.7 and 5.8.

The major version is the right hand number, not the left.  Very weird naming
convention.


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both are frozen.

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Hi

thanq for responding .

but still i am not clear about it.

can you clarify.

because in oracle we call version 8.1.7  ...

but here what is the release and version.

can you go more deep?

2.6 is version 6 of oracle

is it any hardware release.

prasad
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 can any body tell me the difference between the
 release and version of Sun solaris.
 
 i am working on solaris platform.
 
 when i login to the server, i get prompt Sun 5.7
 
 where the version is 2.6
 
 what is the difference between these 2?
 
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Re: Redo for Rollback segs

2001-07-27 Thread Jared . Still


Yes, it will.

The concepts manual is your friend.

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When we enter data  or delete date(modifying data
blocks) , that will generate some redo.

and my doubt is:

when we delete some data in the database, that will
further  insert information into Rollback segment
transaction tables (means furtherly it is modifying
some block of oracle).

Will this generate Redo?

prasad

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RE: Supert market desgn

2001-07-27 Thread Aponte, Tony



Wiley 
(www.wiley.com) has a series on data models 
for different businesses businesses that begin with the title The Data Model Resource Book: A Library of Universal 
Data Models for All Enterprises... 

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  Hi friends,
  I 
  would like to know thename of site where i could find any document 
  related to designing of database for a
  supermarket chain speard across the 
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RE: Another Braindead Friday...

2001-07-27 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F

Scott,

I don't see another way to do this, but you could generate the grant
statements rather quickly using sql - like 

set head off
set pages 2000
spool grant.sql
select 'grant select on ' || table_name || ' with grant option;'
from user_tables
/
spool off
@grant



and your question about sheep, well, it depends.  
are you involved with any other livestock?

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


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I have RTFM'd re: the following problem in HPUX11, Oracle 7.3.3:

--I have user1 who has select privileges on another schema's table
(user2.tab) through Select Any Table privilege.

--user1 creates a view on user2.tab and grants select on the view to
other users (user3..n) through a shared role.

--When user3, et al tries to select from the view they get the infamous
ORA-1720 - Grant option does not exist for xxx.xxx error.

--I know you I can grant select on user2.tab with grant option to user1
and solve this, but I would rather not do that if at all possible.  

--Also, I could create the view as user2 and not have the problem.  The
issue here is user1 needs to create the above type of views on the fly
(please! I didn't design it!!!), and with 30 sites to support, there is
no way to keep up if I have to create the views one by one.

Is there any way around the situation besides the select with grant
option clause to user1 (view owner)?  
Am I an idiot?  
Are sheep considered dates in TX?
HELP

Thanks,

Scott Shafer
San Antonio, TX

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Re: Redo for Rollback segs

2001-07-27 Thread Rachel Carmichael

that I know of, yes they do use rollback segments. I could be wrong

as for logminer, they aren't sql statements, but change vectors. so I don't 
know



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Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 09:51:30 -0800

Rachel Carmichael wrote:
 
  to expand on this:
 
  changes to the rollback segments will generate entries in the redo logs.
  They ARE database blocks.
 
  In fact, rolling back something will generate change vectors as well.
 
  Rachel

kinda dumb question, do changes to rollback segmants use rollback
segments?  and could you get the changes to rollback segments out of the
logs with logminer?

OK so it's 2 kind of dumb questions, i've been quiet lately.;-)  and no
i'm not sure why you'd want to get the changes out, but it would be
interesting if you could.


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Re: Another Braindead Friday...

2001-07-27 Thread Scott Shafer

I thought about that.  Unfortunately the business rules developed by
non-Oracle-literate individuals specifically prohibit this.  Each site
has an unknown number of 3rd party tools which their users can use to
connect with.  Most regular lusers have access only to a secure view
which constrains the data that they can see.  I have invariably found
several cartesian products when direct select permissions have been
granted.  Damagement wants anyone to be able to use any tools that make
them happy (for the uninitiated - this is a bad idea for sensitive
data).

Why you ask are they now wanting a select through another view (which
may violate this prohibition anyway)?

You got me.  The minds of beaurocrats are not for mere mortals to play
in...
That and my creativity is at an all time low due to lack of sleep.

Thanks,

Scott


Hillman, Alex wrote:
 
 another user should have select privileges for underlying table directly,
 not thru the role.
 
 Alex Hillman
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 1:31 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 I have RTFM'd re: the following problem in HPUX11, Oracle 7.3.3:
 
 --I have user1 who has select privileges on another schema's table
 (user2.tab) through Select Any Table privilege.
 
 --user1 creates a view on user2.tab and grants select on the view to
 other users (user3..n) through a shared role.
 
 --When user3, et al tries to select from the view they get the infamous
 ORA-1720 - Grant option does not exist for xxx.xxx error.
 
 --I know you I can grant select on user2.tab with grant option to user1
 and solve this, but I would rather not do that if at all possible.
 
 --Also, I could create the view as user2 and not have the problem.  The
 issue here is user1 needs to create the above type of views on the fly
 (please! I didn't design it!!!), and with 30 sites to support, there is
 no way to keep up if I have to create the views one by one.
 
 Is there any way around the situation besides the select with grant
 option clause to user1 (view owner)?
 Am I an idiot?
 Are sheep considered dates in TX?
 HELP
 
 Thanks,
 
 Scott Shafer
 San Antonio, TX

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any way to stop rollback for dml?/8.1.7.1/Solaris 8

2001-07-27 Thread Austin, Steve S

Does anyone know of a way to inhibit rollback from being generated for DML?

We've got a data warehouse load process that we're trying to speed up
(involving sqlldr and then some DML afterwards.)  The staging tables it uses
are entirely for this process -- there's no need to rollback if it fails;
we'd truncate them and start again with that set of data.

Aside from sqlldr direct mode and import direct mode, can anyone think of
ways to do this?  

Thanks,
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Re: Rollback Segment needs recovery

2001-07-27 Thread Nicholas Tufar

On Fri, 27 Jul 2001, Cale, Rick T (Richard) wrote:

 Hi DBAs,
 
 Oracle 8.0.5/Windows NT4
 
 I shutdown database normal and restarted ok.
 I tried to drop a rollback segment  and getora-1545 rollback segment not
 available.
 When I select from dba_rollback_segs I get needs recovery.
 
 I want to drop rollback tablespace and all rollback segment then rebuild
 because I got datafile corruption error.
 I am in noarchive mode.
 
 Any ideas how to proceed?

It can only be done using undocumented init.ora parameters. Should be 
_corrupted_rollback_segs=(...,...) or something. Export and recreate your
database as soon as you bring it on-line! But better still call Oracle
Support. 



 
 Thanks
 Rick

Nick

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RE: RE: CURSOR_SHARING = FORCE

2001-07-27 Thread Kirsh, Gary

On 8.1.7.1.3 on W2K:

SQL alter session set cursor_sharing=force;

 

Session altered.

 

SQL

SQL select 'x' from dual;

 

'X'



x

 

SQL select 'X' from dual;

 

'X'



X

 

SQL select ' x' from dual;

select ' x' from dual

*

ERROR at line 1:

ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [17182], [550858904], [], [], [],

[], [], []

 

 

SQL select ' X' from dual;

select ' X' from dual

*

ERROR at line 1:

ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [17182], [550858904], [], [], [],

[], [], []

 

 

SQL select 'x ' from dual;

select 'x ' from dual

*

ERROR at line 1:

ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [17182], [550858904], [], [], [],

[], [], []

 

 

SQL select ' x ' from dual;

 

'X'



 x

 

SQL select ' X ' from dual;

 

'X'



 X

 


Gary Kirsh
Next Extent, Inc


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Larry, et. al.,

I'm running 8.1.7.1.1 on Win 2K Pro SP2. I did the following:

alter session set cursor_sharing=force;

select 'x' from dual;
select 'X' from dual;
select ' x' from dual;
select ' X' from dual;
select 'x ' from dual;
select ' x ' from dual;
select ' X ' from dual;

No problems with any of 'em.

Jon Walthour

--- Original Message ---
From: Larry Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 7/27/01 12:41:20 PM


Mark,

Thanks for running the test. I would be interested if anyone
could test on
the latest version of 8.1.7 on Win2000. I called a friend and
had them test
on the latest release on HP-UX and they couldn't duplicate the
bug.

My inability to duplicate on *my* machine was due to a brain
cramp -- I
didn't force a hard parse of the statement like I had at the
client. Cursor
sharing is set to exact on my machine. I tried the statement
with the
trailing space, it worked. I then set to force and re-executed
with no
problem. But, the statement wasn't hard parsed since it was
found in the
shared pool. I can now duplicate without any problem by simply
forcing my
statement to be hard parsed (just like I was doing on the client's
machine -- duh!):

SQL select 'x ' from dual;   this works (trailing space
which didn't
fail for you)

'x
--
x

sql alter session set cursor_sharing = force;  change to
force

session altered.

sql select 'x ' from dual;  still works but it wasn't hard
parsed.

'x
--
x

sql Select 'x ' from dual;  force a hard parse by changing
lower case s
to upper case
select 'x ' from dual
*
error at line 1:
ora-00600: internal error code, arguments: [17182], [366030328],
[], [], [],
[], [], []

so, it looks like the problem is with just cursor sharing itself
(though it
could still be a mix of parameters -- and i'm not going to try
every
combination!!!).

thanks for the help. i don't know anything else you can do. i
wrapped up the
contract with the client yesterday after taking care of the major
issues i
was brought in to resolve. they can handle this issue and some
other minor
ones. since i *am* curious, i will probably give their dba a
call in a week
or two to see if they and/or oracle solved this with the latest
version and
patches for 8.1.7. and maybe someone on the list will be able
to test
against and up to date 8.1.7 on win2k

regards,

larry g. elkins
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Of Mark Leith
 Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 10:02 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: RE: CURSOR_SHARING = FORCE


 Larry,

 Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.7.0.0 - Production
 With the Partitioning option
 JServer Release 8.1.7.0.0 - Production

 select 'x ' from dual;

 'X'
 
 x

 select 'x' from dual;

 'X'
 
 x

 select ' x' from dual;
 select ' x' from dual
 *
 ERROR at line 1:
 ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [17182], [167886636],
 [], [], [],
 [], [], []

 alter system set cursor_sharing = exact;

 System altered.

 select ' x' from dual;

 'X
 --
  x

 What can I share with you to help you out? This is on a test
 database only,
 so just let me know. Also note that the error was only thrown
on
 mine with a
 leading space.

 This is Win2K Professional SP2.

 Cheers

 Mark

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RE: Table fragmentation

2001-07-27 Thread Aponte, Tony
Title: RE: Table fragmentation






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Hello all,


How do I come to know about table fragmentation, I know the info. on tablespace but I need TABLE fragmentation. Please advise as to what kinds of info. and corresponding script would be advantageous to know.

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RE: RE: CURSOR_SHARING = FORCE

2001-07-27 Thread Chaim . Katz




I'm on NT on
Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.7.1.1
and do receive: ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [17182]
Chaim






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Larry, et. al.,

I'm running 8.1.7.1.1 on Win 2K Pro SP2. I did the following:

alter session set cursor_sharing=force;

select 'x' from dual;
select 'X' from dual;
select ' x' from dual;
select ' X' from dual;
select 'x ' from dual;
select ' x ' from dual;
select ' X ' from dual;

No problems with any of 'em.

Jon Walthour

--- Original Message ---
From: Larry Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 7/27/01 12:41:20 PM


Mark,

Thanks for running the test. I would be interested if anyone
could test on
the latest version of 8.1.7 on Win2000. I called a friend and
had them test
on the latest release on HP-UX and they couldn't duplicate the
bug.

My inability to duplicate on *my* machine was due to a brain
cramp -- I
didn't force a hard parse of the statement like I had at the
client. Cursor
sharing is set to exact on my machine. I tried the statement
with the
trailing space, it worked. I then set to force and re-executed
with no
problem. But, the statement wasn't hard parsed since it was
found in the
shared pool. I can now duplicate without any problem by simply
forcing my
statement to be hard parsed (just like I was doing on the client's
machine -- duh!):

SQL select 'x ' from dual;   this works (trailing space
which didn't
fail for you)

'x
--
x

sql alter session set cursor_sharing = force;  change to
force

session altered.

sql select 'x ' from dual;  still works but it wasn't hard
parsed.

'x
--
x

sql Select 'x ' from dual;  force a hard parse by changing
lower case s
to upper case
select 'x ' from dual
*
error at line 1:
ora-00600: internal error code, arguments: [17182], [366030328],
[], [], [],
[], [], []

so, it looks like the problem is with just cursor sharing itself
(though it
could still be a mix of parameters -- and i'm not going to try
every
combination!!!).

thanks for the help. i don't know anything else you can do. i
wrapped up the
contract with the client yesterday after taking care of the major
issues i
was brought in to resolve. they can handle this issue and some
other minor
ones. since i *am* curious, i will probably give their dba a
call in a week
or two to see if they and/or oracle solved this with the latest
version and
patches for 8.1.7. and maybe someone on the list will be able
to test
against and up to date 8.1.7 on win2k

regards,

larry g. elkins
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 Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 10:02 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: RE: CURSOR_SHARING = FORCE


 Larry,

 Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.7.0.0 - Production
 With the Partitioning option
 JServer Release 8.1.7.0.0 - Production

 select 'x ' from dual;

 'X'
 
 x

 select 'x' from dual;

 'X'
 
 x

 select ' x' from dual;
 select ' x' from dual
 *
 ERROR at line 1:
 ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [17182], [167886636],
 [], [], [],
 [], [], []

 alter system set cursor_sharing = exact;

 System altered.

 select ' x' from dual;

 'X
 --
  x

 What can I share with you to help you out? This is on a test
 database only,
 so just let me know. Also note that the error was only thrown
on
 mine with a
 leading space.

 This is Win2K Professional SP2.

 Cheers

 Mark

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Re: NULL Foreign Key Value

2001-07-27 Thread Jared . Still


Because the relation is optional.

Jared



   
 
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Re: PL/SQL Question after migrating from 7.3.4 to 8.1.7

2001-07-27 Thread JRicard982

Deen,

If you want a table with the structure of a row in your uc9_correspondence, use THE 
'%ROWTYPE'as follows:

   TYPE tb_uc9_corres_type IS TABLE OF uc9_correspondence%ROWTYPE
INDEX BY BINARY_INTEGER;

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Re:Another Braindead Friday...

2001-07-27 Thread dgoulet

Scott,

Outside of the solution you've stated you could also 'grant select any table
to usera with admin'.

Dick Goulet

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Author: Scott Shafer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:   7/27/2001 9:31 AM

I have RTFM'd re: the following problem in HPUX11, Oracle 7.3.3:

--I have user1 who has select privileges on another schema's table
(user2.tab) through Select Any Table privilege.

--user1 creates a view on user2.tab and grants select on the view to
other users (user3..n) through a shared role.

--When user3, et al tries to select from the view they get the infamous
ORA-1720 - Grant option does not exist for xxx.xxx error.

--I know you I can grant select on user2.tab with grant option to user1
and solve this, but I would rather not do that if at all possible.  

--Also, I could create the view as user2 and not have the problem.  The
issue here is user1 needs to create the above type of views on the fly
(please! I didn't design it!!!), and with 30 sites to support, there is
no way to keep up if I have to create the views one by one.

Is there any way around the situation besides the select with grant
option clause to user1 (view owner)?  
Am I an idiot?  
Are sheep considered dates in TX?
HELP

Thanks,

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San Antonio, TX

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RE: RE: CURSOR_SHARING = FORCE

2001-07-27 Thread Larry Elkins

John,

Thanks for performing the test case and satisfying my curiosity.

Regards,

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 Larry, et. al.,
 
 I'm running 8.1.7.1.1 on Win 2K Pro SP2. I did the following:
 
 alter session set cursor_sharing=force;
 
 select 'x' from dual;
 select 'X' from dual;
 select ' x' from dual;
 select ' X' from dual;
 select 'x ' from dual;
 select ' x ' from dual;
 select ' X ' from dual;
 
 No problems with any of 'em.
 
 Jon Walthour

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RE: Rollback Segment needs recovery

2001-07-27 Thread Rachel Carmichael

have you backed up the database? done a full database export?  just to be 
careful


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Subject: RE: Rollback Segment needs recovery
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 10:06:38 -0800

I was able to do everything I needed by using undocumented/unsupported
_offline_rollback_segments parameter.

Rick

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Hi DBAs,

Oracle 8.0.5/Windows NT4

I shutdown database normal and restarted ok.
I tried to drop a rollback segment  and getora-1545 rollback segment not
available.
When I select from dba_rollback_segs I get needs recovery.

I want to drop rollback tablespace and all rollback segment then rebuild
because I got datafile corruption error.
I am in noarchive mode.

Any ideas how to proceed?

Thanks
Rick


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Re:RE: Supert market desgn

2001-07-27 Thread dgoulet

Tony,

That's interesting!  The books look pretty good, I'll have to order a set,
but that CD-ROM is kindof pricey ($300.00), isn't it?

Dick Goulet

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Date:   7/27/2001 10:57 AM

Wiley ( www.wiley.com) has a series on data models for different
businesses businesses that begin with the title The Data Model Resource
Book: A Library of Universal Data Models for All Enterprises...   

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Hi friends,
  I would like to know the name of site where i could
find any document related to designing of database for a
supermarket chain speard across the country.
 
Please help me regarding the document.
 
Thank's in advance.
 
Regards
 
Saravana.
 


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Re: Rollback seg for big job

2001-07-27 Thread Rachel Carmichael

Joan,

yikes! I think I'm glad I don't do this.

Rachel


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Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 10:21:04 -0800

Rachel,

we are 8.16. We tried on line a bigrolbk, set tran on this rollback and
took it offline. Guess what? the job was killed also. Oracle support
said this is a bug, should be fixed 8.17.

Joan

Rachel Carmichael wrote:
 
  well.. you could sort of help to guarantee that no one else uses it.
 
  First, bring it online, do a set transaction to use that rollback 
segment,
  then (in another session), take that rollback segment offline.
 
  since you are already using it, it doesn't REALLY go offline (until your
  transaction ends) but no one else will be assigned to it either.
 
  Sneaky.
 
  Rachel
 
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  Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 04:51:09 -0800
  
  
  
  Prasad:
  
  As far as I know (and listers please correct me if I'm wrong)
  you can't single out the rollback segment you are using for that
  big transaction EXCLUSIVELY. In other words, since the rbs is
  still online and available, there is still the potential that
  another transaction could use that rbs as well. However, if you're
  running it at night, wouldn't your activity level be lower and
  thus the odds of getting another transaction in the same rbs
  be much lower as well?
  
  Just my 2 cents.
  
  Jon Walthour
  
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   Hi dba's
   
   can anybody clarify my doubt reg. RBS.
   
   i need to run a very big job in night times.
   
   so , i have to create a very bigh rollback segment
   purely intended for that job.
   
   so i will set at sql
   
   set trnx use rollback seg..
   
   my doubt is whether this rollback segment stores the
   rollback of my job or will it allow any other rollback
   of the database (that is not part of my job)
   
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RE: Rollback Segment needs recovery

2001-07-27 Thread Kevin Lange

A long time ago Oracle support had me put this into my Init.ora file when I
had a bad Rollback segment that would not let go of a transaction.

_corrupted_rollback_segments=(RBS01)   # Marks a
rollback segment corrupted so it can be dropped.

When I brought up the database I was able to drop that rollback segment.

Now, this being one of those illusive undocumented conditions, use at your
own risk .  or contact Oracle Support first.



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Hi DBAs,

Oracle 8.0.5/Windows NT4

I shutdown database normal and restarted ok.
I tried to drop a rollback segment  and getora-1545 rollback segment not
available.
When I select from dba_rollback_segs I get needs recovery.

I want to drop rollback tablespace and all rollback segment then rebuild
because I got datafile corruption error.
I am in noarchive mode.

Any ideas how to proceed?

Thanks
Rick


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RE: Another Braindead Friday...

2001-07-27 Thread Paul Baumgartel

Good idea, Tom, but you omitted the 'to ' clause in the grant statement; it
should be

select 'grant select on ' || table_name || ' to username with grant
option;'
from user_tables

Paul Baumgartel
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Scott,

I don't see another way to do this, but you could generate the grant
statements rather quickly using sql - like 

set head off
set pages 2000
spool grant.sql
select 'grant select on ' || table_name || ' with grant option;'
from user_tables
/
spool off
@grant



and your question about sheep, well, it depends.  
are you involved with any other livestock?

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


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I have RTFM'd re: the following problem in HPUX11, Oracle 7.3.3:

--I have user1 who has select privileges on another schema's table
(user2.tab) through Select Any Table privilege.

--user1 creates a view on user2.tab and grants select on the view to
other users (user3..n) through a shared role.

--When user3, et al tries to select from the view they get the infamous
ORA-1720 - Grant option does not exist for xxx.xxx error.

--I know you I can grant select on user2.tab with grant option to user1
and solve this, but I would rather not do that if at all possible.  

--Also, I could create the view as user2 and not have the problem.  The
issue here is user1 needs to create the above type of views on the fly
(please! I didn't design it!!!), and with 30 sites to support, there is
no way to keep up if I have to create the views one by one.

Is there any way around the situation besides the select with grant
option clause to user1 (view owner)?  
Am I an idiot?  
Are sheep considered dates in TX?
HELP

Thanks,

Scott Shafer
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RE: what do I tune?

2001-07-27 Thread Horne, Joe



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Gene:

It all depends on a couple of factors: (1) what are the average
wait times for each of the wait events, (2) which one(s) have
the highest wait times. I would ignore any waits less than 1
centisecond for the most part.

Buffer Busy Waits occur when a session is waiting for a buffer
to become available. This is because a buffer is either being
read into the buffer cache by another session (and the session
is waiting for that read to complete) or the buffer is in the
buffer cache, but in an incompatible mode(that is, some other
session is changing the buffer). There are several courses of
action here, depending on what type of block it is:

-- If it is a data block, change the pctfree and pctused or,
in the case of an index, check for right-hand indexing or increase
initrans. The key is to reduce the number of rows/leaves per
block to reduce contention.

-- If it is a segment header, increase the number of freelists
or use freelist groups.

-- If it is a freelist block, increase the number of freelists.

-- If it is an undo header block, add more rollback segments
when in exclusive mode and consider setting transactions per
rbs = 1.

-- If it is an undo block, add more rollback segments when in
exclusive mode or make the segments you have larger.

DB file sequential read waits indicate that either (a) an index
lookup is being performed or (b) a controlfile is being rebuilt
or (c) datafile headers are being dumped or retrieved. In your
case, it's probably the first one.

Enqueue waits are waits for locks to be released. Taking care
of those can be quite complex depending on the types of locks
being held and those being requested and on what structures,
etc.

Latch free waits are waits for another to release a latch on
a given resource. The presence of latch free waits of any significant
magnitude may indicate a bottleneck within the SGA.

It seems obvious that when you turned up the degree of parallelism
on the query, the database as you currently have it set up could
not handle the load. All these wait events would be consistent
with that.

Hope this helps.

Jon Walthour

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Hi all:

I am trying to tune some queries. I ran them all in 
one stream (in sequence) and then ran them in several
(up to 64) parallel streams. I got a snapshot of
the system for each run. I see some of the waits went
up significantly when I switched from 2 parallel
streams to 64: buffer busy wait, db file seq read,
enqueue waits, latch free waits and many more. Now
some of this increases may be OK, some  may be not. My
question is how do I decide which of these waits are a
problem and should be looked into and which are normal
and can be safely ignored. Are there any quantative 
rules that I could use?

thank you for any insight

Gene

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Re: any way to stop rollback for dml?/8.1.7.1/Solaris 8

2001-07-27 Thread Prasada . Gunda1


Steve,

Even we do have the same kind of requirement. AFAIK,  there is no way
except INSERT with APPEND hint (Direct Load Insert). See Direct-load Insert
chapter in concepts manual. Unfortunately Direct load insert works with
Insert .. select, not Insert .. values syntax.

hth,
prasad






   
   
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Does anyone know of a way to inhibit rollback from being generated for DML?

We've got a data warehouse load process that we're trying to speed up
(involving sqlldr and then some DML afterwards.)  The staging tables it
uses
are entirely for this process -- there's no need to rollback if it fails;
we'd truncate them and start again with that set of data.

Aside from sqlldr direct mode and import direct mode, can anyone think of
ways to do this?

Thanks,
Steve
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Re: Rollback Segment needs recovery

2001-07-27 Thread Unal Bilisim

Hello,

It's bad problem. I think _offline_rollback_segments or 
_corrupted_rollback_segments should be last method.

I'll recommend a tip for this error: If you can identify which objects need 
recovery and then drop them, Oracle doesn't try to recover them, so needs 
recovery goes away.

Let's identify which object need recovery in corrupted rbs:

- add following parameters to init.ora:

event=10013 trace name context forever, level 10
event=10015 trace name context forever, level 10

Note that if there are more than 1 event in init.ora, they have to be 
consecutive. otherwise just last one will be active.

Now, re-start db abd try to get same error. Oracle will dump recovery operation 
in alert.log. And you will be able to see object id. drop this object. That's 
all.

You can paste recovery dumps in alert.log to identify your object, as well.

regards...




27/7/01 08:37:06, Cale, Rick T (Richard) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi DBAs,

Oracle 8.0.5/Windows NT4

I shutdown database normal and restarted ok.
I tried to drop a rollback segment  and getora-1545 rollback segment not
available.
When I select from dba_rollback_segs I get needs recovery.

I want to drop rollback tablespace and all rollback segment then rebuild
because I got datafile corruption error.
I am in noarchive mode.

Any ideas how to proceed?

Thanks
Rick


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Strange behavior: Update with select

2001-07-27 Thread Prasada . Gunda1


Strange behavior : Update with select stt.

select stt in update 1 is NOT working correct and select stt in update 2 is
working correct
though the select statements are logically same.

Explanation:

select stt in update 1 doesn't return any data even though it suppose to
return one record.
To confirm that the select stt returns one record, I prepared select stt by
joining the
table(claim) that is updated with the tables used in select stt(pls see
select 1).
It is returning one record.

Then, I modified the select stt (pls see update 2) in update stt and it is
working fine.

The difference between these two select statements is,
In update 1 select stt, table r is joining with p and r joining with p615.
In update 2 select stt, table r is joing with p and p is joining with p615.

The way the data is:
join with r and p yields 1 record and join with r and p615 yields no
record.

explain plan on update 1: sort join and then merge join cartesian.
explain plan on update 2: nested loops outer join.
explain plan on select 1: nested loops outer join.

I belive, update 1 is not working correct because the second join (r and
p615) resulting no data hence the merge join cartesian resulting with no
data.

Even though optimizer generates different plans for update 1 and 2, final
result should be the same.

FYI, In the select statement, same table is being used with different
aliases (p and p615).

Your thoughts are appreciated. It is very interesting, at least for me.

Thanks
prasad

Update 1:


UPDATE claim r
   SET disability_definition  =
   (SELECT p.option_description || ' ' ||  RTRIM(p.description)
  || DECODE(p.duration_code, 'Y',' YEAR(S)',
 'M',' MONTH(S)',
 'D',' DAY(S)',
 'C',' CAL.YEAR',
 'L',' LIFE TIME',
 'A',' YEARS OF AGE',
 'W',' WEEK(S)',NULL)
  || ' ' || p615.option_description
  || ' ' || RTRIM(p615.description)
  || DECODE(p615.duration_code, 'Y',' YEAR(S)',
 'M',' MONTH(S)',
 'D',' DAY(S)',
 'C',' CAL.YEAR',
 'L',' LIFE TIME',
 'A',' YEARS OF AGE',
 'W',' WEEK(S)',NULL)
  FROM coverage_provision p, coverage_provision p615
 WHERE p.provision_id  = '614'
   AND r.case_id = p.case_id
   AND r.coverage_category_code = p.coverage_category_code
   AND r.coverage_type_code = p.coverage_type_code
   AND r.coverage_plan_number = p.coverage_plan_number
   AND r.class_code = p.class_code
   AND r.disability_date = p.eff_date
   AND r.disability_date  NVL(p.term_date, r.disability_date+1)
   AND r.case_id = p615.case_id(+)
   AND r.coverage_category_code = p615.coverage_category_code(+)
   AND r.coverage_type_code = p615.coverage_type_code(+)
   AND r.coverage_plan_number = p615.coverage_plan_number(+)
   AND r.class_code = p615.class_code(+)
   AND r.disability_date = p615.eff_date(+)
   AND r.disability_date  NVL(p615.term_date(+),
r.disability_date+1)
   AND p615.provision_id(+) = '615'
  )
   WHERE r.coverage_category_code = 'LTD'
 AND r.coverage_type_code = 'ABIL'
 AND NVL(r.coverage_plan_number,'UNK')  'UNK'
 AND NVL(r.class_code,'UNK')  'UNK'
 AND r.claim_event_id='999'
;

Select 1:

SELECT p.option_description || ' ' ||  RTRIM(p.description)
  || DECODE(p.duration_code, 'Y',' YEAR(S)',
 'M',' MONTH(S)',
 'D',' DAY(S)',
 'C',' CAL.YEAR',
 'L',' LIFE TIME',
 'A',' YEARS OF AGE',
 'W',' WEEK(S)',NULL)
  || ' ' || p615.option_description
  || ' ' || RTRIM(p615.description)
  || DECODE(p615.duration_code, 'Y',' YEAR(S)',
 'M',' MONTH(S)',
 'D',' DAY(S)',
 'C',' CAL.YEAR',
 'L',' LIFE TIME',
 'A',' YEARS OF AGE',
 'W',' WEEK(S)',NULL)
  FROM claim r,
   coverage_provision p,
   coverage_provision p615
 WHERE p.provision_id  = '614'
   AND p615.provision_id(+) = '615'
   AND r.case_id = p.case_id
   AND 

RE: Dangerous AIX Bug!

2001-07-27 Thread Mohan, Ross

IBM is definitely keeping NUMA-Qwhich is the
marketing name for that part of Dynix. 

the nubby core of Dynix/ptx is already duplicated ( as
it would be for any *nix ) by AIX.


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Fantastic - BUT where is the Dynix. ??

Lee


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OH

MY

GOD.


that is s useful!  A blessing on your family, your family's family, and
your family's family's family. 

Oh hell, throw in a beer for yourself. 

thanks, 

Ross

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Ross,

  Check this link. You may find it useful.

http://home.earthlink.net/~bhami/rosetta.html

Regards,
Denny

Mohan, Ross wrote:
 
 :)
 
 My biggest concern is porting db's
 from other unix flavors...i wish there
 were a cross platfrom shell porting
 guide.
 
 Sure, ls is ls, but every mfgr
 changes the order/formatting of
 the flags and/or output.
 
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 far
 
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Re: PL/SQL Question after migrating from 7.3.4 to 8.1.7

2001-07-27 Thread Prasada . Gunda1


Use %ROWTYPE.

TYPE tb_uc9_corres_type IS TABLE OF uc9_correspondence%ROWTYPE
INDEX BY BINARY_INTEGER;

hth,
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I just migrated from 734 to 817, I used migration utility. Migration went
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   TYPE tb_uc9_corres_type IS TABLE OF uc9_correspondence%TYPE
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Re: Redo for Rollback segs

2001-07-27 Thread Rachel Carmichael

It is? Ah, but will it bring me tea and toast when I am sick in bed?

Rachel. it's a silly sort of day today, too many meetings with too many 
sales reps


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Yes, it will.

The concepts manual is your friend.

Jared





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When we enter data  or delete date(modifying data
blocks) , that will generate some redo.

and my doubt is:

when we delete some data in the database, that will
further  insert information into Rollback segment
transaction tables (means furtherly it is modifying
some block of oracle).

Will this generate Redo?

prasad

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RE: Rollback Segment needs recovery

2001-07-27 Thread Kevin Lange

Danisment;
  When we had a problem that we needed the _corrupted_rollback_segments
option added to the init.ora file. The Rollback Segment itself was
corrupted.  Not the objects using the Rollback Segment.  If this is the
case, dropping the objects will not do the trick because it will happen
again when the Rollback Segment is accessed for another activity.

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Hello,

It's bad problem. I think _offline_rollback_segments or 
_corrupted_rollback_segments should be last method.

I'll recommend a tip for this error: If you can identify which objects need 
recovery and then drop them, Oracle doesn't try to recover them, so needs 
recovery goes away.

Let's identify which object need recovery in corrupted rbs:

- add following parameters to init.ora:

event=10013 trace name context forever, level 10
event=10015 trace name context forever, level 10

Note that if there are more than 1 event in init.ora, they have to be 
consecutive. otherwise just last one will be active.

Now, re-start db abd try to get same error. Oracle will dump recovery
operation 
in alert.log. And you will be able to see object id. drop this object.
That's 
all.

You can paste recovery dumps in alert.log to identify your object, as well.

regards...




27/7/01 08:37:06, Cale, Rick T (Richard) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi DBAs,

Oracle 8.0.5/Windows NT4

I shutdown database normal and restarted ok.
I tried to drop a rollback segment  and getora-1545 rollback segment not
available.
When I select from dba_rollback_segs I get needs recovery.

I want to drop rollback tablespace and all rollback segment then rebuild
because I got datafile corruption error.
I am in noarchive mode.

Any ideas how to proceed?

Thanks
Rick


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Re: any way to stop rollback for dml?/8.1.7.1/Solaris 8

2001-07-27 Thread JOE TESTA

nologging isnt any good except for a few things, and normal DML is not it.

all normal DML is logged regardless of nologging/unrecoverable options.

joe


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alter table schema.table_name nologging;

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On Fri, 27 Jul 2001, Austin, Steve S wrote:

 Does anyone know of a way to inhibit rollback from being generated for DML?
 
 We've got a data warehouse load process that we're trying to speed up
 (involving sqlldr and then some DML afterwards.)  The staging tables it uses
 are entirely for this process -- there's no need to rollback if it fails;
 we'd truncate them and start again with that set of data.
 
 Aside from sqlldr direct mode and import direct mode, can anyone think of
 ways to do this?  
 
 Thanks,
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Re: any way to stop rollback for dml?/8.1.7.1/Solaris 8

2001-07-27 Thread Stephen Andert



Steve, 

As far as speeding up the sqlldr process, you could take a look at an 
article on O'Reilly's web site. It's at http://oracle.oreilly.com/news/oraclesqlload_0401.htmland 
documents the fairly painless process I used to speed up data loads we are doing 
here.

HTH

Stephen Andert
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Does anyone know of a way to inhibit rollback from being 
generated for DML?We've got a data warehouse load process that we're 
trying to speed up(involving sqlldr and then some DML afterwards.) The 
staging tables it usesare entirely for this process -- there's no need to 
rollback if it fails;we'd truncate them and start again with that set of 
data.Aside from sqlldr direct mode and import direct mode, can anyone 
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RE: Solaris Release Vs. Version

2001-07-27 Thread Richard Ji

Solaris includes SunOS plus the Openwin environment.

Solaris 2.5.1 = SunOS 5.5.1 plus Openwin 3.5.1 (I could get the openwin version wrong 
as I don't have access to a Sun box right now).


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/27/01 12:31PM 
The module that is responding to uname -a is SunOS.  This is different from
Solaris, but it's confusing why.  I guess historically the primary interface
was command-line, and not CDE?  (i.e. maybe solaris:sunos ::
gui:command-line)

Here's a table I found on the web that may help...

SunOS 5.3 = Solaris 2.3
SunOS 5.4 = Solaris 2.4
SunOS 5.5 = Solaris 2.5
SunOS 5.5.1 = Solaris 2.5.1
SunOS 5.6 = Solaris 2.6
SunOS 5.7 = Solaris 7 (aka Solaris 2.7)
SunOS 5.8 = Solaris 8 (aka Solaris 2.8)

.. .and before you get too riled up, ask yourself why Oracle 8.1.6 is also
known as 8iv2  :)

happy weekend everyone!
Steve

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Hi

thanq for responding .

but still i am not clear about it.

can you clarify.

because in oracle we call version 8.1.7  ...

but here what is the release and version.

can you go more deep?

2.6 is version 6 of oracle

is it any hardware release.

prasad
--- Christopher Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 There is probably something wrong or it is truly
 2.7.
 
 2.6 is Version 6 of Solaris
 2.7 is Version 7 of Solaris
 
 They are completely different versions.  Nothing
 about them is similar in
 terms of release.
 
 Walking on water and developing software from a
 specification are easy if
 both are frozen.
 
 Christopher R. Spence
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 Fuelspot 
 
 
 
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 hi dba's
 
 can any body tell me the difference between the
 release and version of Sun solaris.
 
 i am working on solaris platform.
 
 when i login to the server, i get prompt Sun 5.7
 
 where the version is 2.6 
 
 what is the difference between these 2?
 
 prasad.
 
 
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RE: Strange behavior: Update with select

2001-07-27 Thread Norrell, Brian

not sure, but:
AND r.disability_date = p615.eff_date(+)
AND r.disability_date  NVL(p615.term_date(+),r.disability_date+1)
Looks fishy.  The (+) operation acts funny in situations other than one or
the other sides of an =.  Try:
AND r.disability_date = NVL(p615.term_date,r.disability_date)
AND r.disability_date  NVL(p615.term_date,r.disability_date+1)

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Strange behavior : Update with select stt.

select stt in update 1 is NOT working correct and select stt in update 2 is
working correct
though the select statements are logically same.

Explanation:

select stt in update 1 doesn't return any data even though it suppose to
return one record.
To confirm that the select stt returns one record, I prepared select stt by
joining the
table(claim) that is updated with the tables used in select stt(pls see
select 1).
It is returning one record.

Then, I modified the select stt (pls see update 2) in update stt and it is
working fine.

The difference between these two select statements is,
In update 1 select stt, table r is joining with p and r joining with p615.
In update 2 select stt, table r is joing with p and p is joining with p615.

The way the data is:
join with r and p yields 1 record and join with r and p615 yields no
record.

explain plan on update 1: sort join and then merge join cartesian.
explain plan on update 2: nested loops outer join.
explain plan on select 1: nested loops outer join.

I belive, update 1 is not working correct because the second join (r and
p615) resulting no data hence the merge join cartesian resulting with no
data.

Even though optimizer generates different plans for update 1 and 2, final
result should be the same.

FYI, In the select statement, same table is being used with different
aliases (p and p615).

Your thoughts are appreciated. It is very interesting, at least for me.

Thanks
prasad

Update 1:


UPDATE claim r
   SET disability_definition  =
   (SELECT p.option_description || ' ' ||  RTRIM(p.description)
  || DECODE(p.duration_code, 'Y',' YEAR(S)',
 'M',' MONTH(S)',
 'D',' DAY(S)',
 'C',' CAL.YEAR',
 'L',' LIFE TIME',
 'A',' YEARS OF AGE',
 'W',' WEEK(S)',NULL)
  || ' ' || p615.option_description
  || ' ' || RTRIM(p615.description)
  || DECODE(p615.duration_code, 'Y',' YEAR(S)',
 'M',' MONTH(S)',
 'D',' DAY(S)',
 'C',' CAL.YEAR',
 'L',' LIFE TIME',
 'A',' YEARS OF AGE',
 'W',' WEEK(S)',NULL)
  FROM coverage_provision p, coverage_provision p615
 WHERE p.provision_id  = '614'
   AND r.case_id = p.case_id
   AND r.coverage_category_code = p.coverage_category_code
   AND r.coverage_type_code = p.coverage_type_code
   AND r.coverage_plan_number = p.coverage_plan_number
   AND r.class_code = p.class_code
   AND r.disability_date = p.eff_date
   AND r.disability_date  NVL(p.term_date, r.disability_date+1)
   AND r.case_id = p615.case_id(+)
   AND r.coverage_category_code = p615.coverage_category_code(+)
   AND r.coverage_type_code = p615.coverage_type_code(+)
   AND r.coverage_plan_number = p615.coverage_plan_number(+)
   AND r.class_code = p615.class_code(+)
   AND r.disability_date = p615.eff_date(+)
   AND r.disability_date  NVL(p615.term_date(+),
r.disability_date+1)
   AND p615.provision_id(+) = '615'
  )
   WHERE r.coverage_category_code = 'LTD'
 AND r.coverage_type_code = 'ABIL'
 AND NVL(r.coverage_plan_number,'UNK')  'UNK'
 AND NVL(r.class_code,'UNK')  'UNK'
 AND r.claim_event_id='999'
;

Select 1:

SELECT p.option_description || ' ' ||  RTRIM(p.description)
  || DECODE(p.duration_code, 'Y',' YEAR(S)',
 'M',' MONTH(S)',
 'D',' DAY(S)',
 'C',' CAL.YEAR',
 'L',' LIFE TIME',
 'A',' YEARS OF AGE',
 'W',' WEEK(S)',NULL)
  || ' ' || p615.option_description
  || ' ' || RTRIM(p615.description)
  || DECODE(p615.duration_code, 

Re: any way to stop rollback for dml?/8.1.7.1/Solaris 8

2001-07-27 Thread Jenny Jacobson


alter table schema.table_name nologging;

Jenny Jacobson
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On Fri, 27 Jul 2001, Austin, Steve S wrote:

 Does anyone know of a way to inhibit rollback from being generated for DML?
 
 We've got a data warehouse load process that we're trying to speed up
 (involving sqlldr and then some DML afterwards.)  The staging tables it uses
 are entirely for this process -- there's no need to rollback if it fails;
 we'd truncate them and start again with that set of data.
 
 Aside from sqlldr direct mode and import direct mode, can anyone think of
 ways to do this?  
 
 Thanks,
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RE: Rollback Segment needs recovery

2001-07-27 Thread Seema Singh

please do offline then drop
-Seema


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Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 10:06:38 -0800

I was able to do everything I needed by using undocumented/unsupported
_offline_rollback_segments parameter.

Rick

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Hi DBAs,

Oracle 8.0.5/Windows NT4

I shutdown database normal and restarted ok.
I tried to drop a rollback segment  and getora-1545 rollback segment not
available.
When I select from dba_rollback_segs I get needs recovery.

I want to drop rollback tablespace and all rollback segment then rebuild
because I got datafile corruption error.
I am in noarchive mode.

Any ideas how to proceed?

Thanks
Rick


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Re[2]: Another Braindead Friday...

2001-07-27 Thread dgoulet

Scott,

You between the same rock and hard place I am.  Welcome to the club.

Dick Goulet

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I thought about that.  Unfortunately the business rules developed by
non-Oracle-literate individuals specifically prohibit this.  Each site
has an unknown number of 3rd party tools which their users can use to
connect with.  Most regular lusers have access only to a secure view
which constrains the data that they can see.  I have invariably found
several cartesian products when direct select permissions have been
granted.  Damagement wants anyone to be able to use any tools that make
them happy (for the uninitiated - this is a bad idea for sensitive
data).

Why you ask are they now wanting a select through another view (which
may violate this prohibition anyway)?

You got me.  The minds of beaurocrats are not for mere mortals to play
in...
That and my creativity is at an all time low due to lack of sleep.

Thanks,

Scott


Hillman, Alex wrote:
 
 another user should have select privileges for underlying table directly,
 not thru the role.
 
 Alex Hillman
 
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 I have RTFM'd re: the following problem in HPUX11, Oracle 7.3.3:
 
 --I have user1 who has select privileges on another schema's table
 (user2.tab) through Select Any Table privilege.
 
 --user1 creates a view on user2.tab and grants select on the view to
 other users (user3..n) through a shared role.
 
 --When user3, et al tries to select from the view they get the infamous
 ORA-1720 - Grant option does not exist for xxx.xxx error.
 
 --I know you I can grant select on user2.tab with grant option to user1
 and solve this, but I would rather not do that if at all possible.
 
 --Also, I could create the view as user2 and not have the problem.  The
 issue here is user1 needs to create the above type of views on the fly
 (please! I didn't design it!!!), and with 30 sites to support, there is
 no way to keep up if I have to create the views one by one.
 
 Is there any way around the situation besides the select with grant
 option clause to user1 (view owner)?
 Am I an idiot?
 Are sheep considered dates in TX?
 HELP
 
 Thanks,
 
 Scott Shafer
 San Antonio, TX

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Running out of extents on temporary tablespace

2001-07-27 Thread Browett, Darren

Oracle 8.0.5.1.1

I am getting the ORA-01630 max number of extents (505) for a temp segment in
my temporary tablespace
message when I do a select count(*)

I have two tables, 

1. has  300,000+ rows
2. has   1,200,000 rows

I retrieved the numbers by performing a select count(*) from xx.

I have a view that unions the two tables together for reporting purposes.
If
I try to do a select count(*) on the view, I run out of extents.  Also on
occasion
when we rebuild table 2, I also run out of extents. (ORA-01630)

I am assuming that it is the sort_area_size parameter that may be causing
the problem,
but I am not sure.  The temp tablespace and parameter values are as follows
:

initial extent = 524288
next extent =  524288
sort_area_size = 524288.


Checking the sysstat table I receive the following, which according to some
of the books I 
have read indicate whether or not there is an issue with the sort_area_size
parameter.

NAMEVALUE
-- --
sorts (memory) 35,128
sorts (disk)  155

Another tips, comments or looking in a different area to resolve this would
be greatly 
appreciated

Thanks

Darren


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Re: Year of Unix file

2001-07-27 Thread Jared . Still


Is this anything like the year of the cat?

Jared



   
 
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Hi dba's

when i list the unix file (solaris), with ls -lt
command , i am able to see the time, month, date that
is created.

is there any way to see the year that is created.

any commands

prasad.

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Re: Redo for Rollback segs

2001-07-27 Thread Thater, William

On Fri, 27 Jul 2001,Rachel Carmichael scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:

-It is? Ah, but will it bring me tea and toast when I am sick in bed?

no, but it will put you to sleep.;-)

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-Rachel. it's a silly sort of day today, too many meetings with too many
-sales reps

i'm not allowed to talk to sales reps, i might find something that makes my
job easier to do.;-)

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