Enqueue tuning

2001-11-14 Thread nlzanen1




Hi All,


I have a batch job that seems to have a lot of enqueue waits (second
longest wait time (337156 cs?) from v$session_event).
I have read that increasing the enqueue resources does not solve this
problem as I have no ORA-52  ORA-53 errors. (I have increased it by a
factor ten to try it and no better results.)

What can I look at to try and improve this waiting??

THX


Jack

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Ang: RE: Sqlloader - important

2001-11-14 Thread Roland . Skoldblom


Yes and i should have checked the  error more myself but was tired

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I think it's really amazing how many people spotted the error.

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You are missing a comma and another single quote:

orig== (KAMPANJTYP_ID DECODE(:KAMPANJTYP_ID,'?','98'!','97',
:KAMPANJTYP_ID),

new==  (KAMPANJTYP_ID DECODE(:KAMPANJTYP_ID,'?','98','!','97',
:KAMPANJTYP_ID),

Hope this helps!  :)


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Hallo,


Why does this sqlloader ctl file give me this errormessage?

the control file looks like:

load data
infile 'c:\kam\kampanj.txt'
TRUNCATE
into table  kampanjtyp_kopia
FIELDS TERMINATED BY ';'
 (KAMPANJTYP_ID DECODE(:KAMPANJTYP_ID,'?','98'!','97', :KAMPANJTYP_ID),
KAMPANJTYP_NAMN)


SQL*Loader-944: error preparing insert statement for table
KAMPANJTYP_KOPIA.
ORA-01756: quoted string not properly terminated


Thanks in advance

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how to extract text from LONG field

2001-11-14 Thread Daiminger, Helmut
Title: how to extract text from LONG field





Hi!


Is there a way that I can extract the source code of a trigger from dba_triggers? The problem is that the information is stored in a LONG colum.

SQLWKS desc dba_triggers
Column Name Null? Type
--  
OWNER VARCHAR2(30)
TRIGGER_NAME VARCHAR2(30)
TRIGGER_TYPE VARCHAR2(16)
TRIGGERING_EVENT VARCHAR2(216)
TABLE_OWNER VARCHAR2(30)
BASE_OBJECT_TYPE VARCHAR2(16)
TABLE_NAME VARCHAR2(30)
COLUMN_NAME VARCHAR2(4000)
REFERENCING_NAMES VARCHAR2(128)
WHEN_CLAUSE VARCHAR2(4000)
STATUS VARCHAR2(8)
DESCRIPTION VARCHAR2(4000)
ACTION_TYPE VARCHAR2(11)
TRIGGER_BODY LONG


select table_owner, table_name from dba_triggers
where trigger_body like '%T_JOURNAL%';


does not work, because the LONG field can't be searched with LIKE. to_char conversion doesn't work either.


Any ideas?


This is 8.1.7 on Sun Solaris.


Thanks,
Helmut





RE: Sqlloader

2001-11-14 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe

What does your data file (sorry infile) look like ??


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Hallo,

I am running this sqlloader  ctl-file

load data
infile 'C:\temp\arg\argdwfkt3.txt'
TRUNCATE
into table argdwfkt_kopia
FIELDS TERMINATED BY ';'
(BUTIKS_ID,
 BUT_NAMN,
 REGION_ID DECODE(:REGION_ID,'!','98','?','97',:REGION_ID),
 DISTRIKT_ID DECODE(:DISTRIKT_ID,'!','98','?','97',:DISTRICT_ID),
ROLL_ID,
 PROFIL_ID DECODE(:PROFIL_ID,'!','98','?','97',:PROFIL_ID),
 AR,
 KVARTAL,
 MANAD,
 VECKA,
 DOKUMENTTEST_ARKFORMAT
DECODE(:DOKUMENTTEST_ARKFORMAT,'A4','1','A3','2','E1','3','!','98','?','97'
,'99'),
 KAMPANJ_TYP,
 MX_URVAL,
 POSTBEFODRAN
DECODE(:POSTBEFODRAN,'A','1','B','2','!','98','?','97','99'),
 PRINT_FORETAG_ID
DECODE(:PRINT_FORETAG_ID,'1','1','2','2','!','98','?','97','99'),
 STYCKKOSTNAD,
 FASTKOSTNAD_BREVMALL,
 FASTKOSTNAD_ARENDE,
 TOTAL_KOSTNAD,
 ANTAL_ÄRENDEN,
 ANTAL_BREVMALLAR_I_ARENDE,
 ANTAL_KUNDSEGMENT_I__ARENDE,
 ANTAL_KUNDER_I_URVAL,
 DATUM_HOS_KUND,
 AKTIVITETS_LOPNR,
 PRODUKTIONSENHET,
 AKTIVITETSDATUM,
BEHANDLINGSGRP)



but gets this error message, check the file:What does it mean and how should
I fix this:

(See attached file: arg.log)


Thanks in advance

Roland S



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Re: How do you change default oracle home?

2001-11-14 Thread nlzanen1


Hi


Probably not supported but 

Backup your oracle registry key
edit the default home key in your registry and see what happens. Play
around with the registry untill it works.

I did something like it a while ago when I tried to install an oracle 7.3.4
version next to 8.0.5, 8.1.7 and the installer only allowed the 7.3.4 in
the default home which was obviously already used.


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Re: EnCrypting

2001-11-14 Thread Marin Dimitrov


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 Hello,

 what kind of different possibilities there are to encrypt the data inside
 the database.


http://www.cybcon.com/~jkstill/util/encryption/encryption.html


hth,

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sqlquestion

2001-11-14 Thread Roland . Skoldblom

Hallo,

How can I do a  select statement that creates this:

I have the field1

Jimmy  Y1000
Timmy  L3

and I want the select the select to   giv e me this:

Jimmy
Timmy

How can I change this statement?

SELECT  ltrim(substr(mxurval_namn,instr(mxurval_namn,' ')))
FROM mxurval;

Thanks in advance

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Antwort: Re: Failures in creating Oracle database file.

2001-11-14 Thread Ivo . Libal


Oracle does not support files larger than 2GB on Linux
Doesnt matter if linux itself support it or not.
Ivo



   

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Jesse:


It sounds as if you may have run into the 2GB file size limit.  Has your
filesystem been created and mounted with the largefiles option?


An easy way to check would be to try and create the tablepace with a 1GB or
2GB datafile and see if it works.


Jesse W. Asher wrote:

 I'm attempting to create a 3GB file on an XFS filesystem using Oracle
 8i running on RedHat 7.1 with a generic 2.4.10 kernel and I'm getting
 some errors.  Here's the command and output I'm getting:


 CREATE TABLESPACE ALTUSER DATAFILE
 '/export/4/oracle/oradata/alt/data01.dbf' SIZE 3000M REUSE AUTOEXTEND
 ON NEXT 1280K
 MINIMUM EXTENT 128K DEFAULT STORAGE ( INITIAL 128K NEXT 128K
 MINEXTENTS 1 MAXEXTENTS 4096 PCTINCREASE 0);


 CREATE TABLESPACE ALTUSER DATAFILE
 '/export/4/oracle/oradata/alt/data01.dbf' SIZE 3000M REUSE
 *
 ORA-01119: error in creating database file
 '/export/4/oracle/oradata/alt/data01.dbf'
 ORA-27037: unable to obtain file status
 Linux Error: 75: Value too large for defined data type


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 limit is 4GB which is why I made the file 3GB.  Is this correct or am
 I missing something??  Many thanks!!

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[no subject]

2001-11-14 Thread grace

hi gurus,

wat's the difference of  8i ias  standard and enterprise?

Best regards,

Grace Lim
Suy Sing Comm'l Corp.

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Re: sqlquestion

2001-11-14 Thread nlzanen1



Hi

SELECT SUBSTR(column,1,INSTR(column,' ')) from table;

There is a space between the two quotes!!


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Hallo,

How can I do a  select statement that creates this:

I have the field1

Jimmy  Y1000
Timmy  L3

and I want the select the select to   giv e me this:

Jimmy
Timmy

How can I change this statement?

SELECT  ltrim(substr(mxurval_namn,instr(mxurval_namn,' ')))
FROM mxurval;

Thanks in advance

Roland S










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sql-important

2001-11-14 Thread Roland . Skoldblom



Hallo,

How can I do a  select statement that creates this:

I have the field1

Jimmy  Y1000
Timmy  L3
No Info


and I want the select to  give me this:

Jimmy
Timmy
No Info

You see It should still be 'No info' after  the select statement.

How can I change this statement?

SELECT  ltrim(substr(mxurval_namn,instr(mxurval_namn,' ')))
FROM mxurval;

Thanks in advance

Roland S




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Re:

2001-11-14 Thread Connor McDonald

More of the 'optional' features are enabled in
Enterprise edition (for this you pay a higher
licensing cost).

Take a look at:

http://technet.oracle.com/doc/oracle8i_816/server.816/a76962/ch4.htm#73594

hth
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Re: sqlquestion

2001-11-14 Thread Jan Pruner

SELECT SUBSTR(column,1,INSTR(column,' ') -1  ) from table;

JP

On Wed 14. November 2001 10:40, you wrote:
 Hi

 SELECT SUBSTR(column,1,INSTR(column,' ')) from table;

 There is a space between the two quotes!!


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 How can I do a  select statement that creates this:

 I have the field1

 Jimmy  Y1000
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 and I want the select the select to   giv e me this:

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 Timmy

 How can I change this statement?

 SELECT  ltrim(substr(mxurval_namn,instr(mxurval_namn,' ')))
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Re: Correction : EMC symetrix - 1M stripe width - Raid 0+1 - Perform

2001-11-14 Thread Connor McDonald

Interestingly you could go back to Oracle support and
ask them about the SAME method (as presented by an
Oracle employee if I recall correctly at a user
conference) - which advocated 1m stripes.

You'll tend to face these battles with EMC - their
sales people are great at things like you don't need
to worry about where things are on the disk, or
striping etc - our cache takes care of all of
that...Yeah right!

As a general guideline, I think you'd be better of
with smaller stripe size, but you don't have to limit
yourself - you could have fine granined striping for
some parts of the system, and larger grains for other
parts.

hth
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Re: Insert script generator

2001-11-14 Thread G . Plivna


As nobody gave me the script I really wanted to, I had to create one myself
:(((
Starting part is based on Jared's dump.sql but the rest of course is
different.
Here is link to it, just in case of need ;)))

http://www.itsystems.lv/gints/dba_selects.htm#s21

Gints Plivna
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Hi!

I'm sure somebody has already created a script that makes insert scripts
for data in a table.
I'm too lazy to reinvent wheel, maybe You are so kind to share it with me!

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Re: lack of memory

2001-11-14 Thread Connor McDonald

(Of course depending on the app), its seems odd that
4G is insufficient for 400 users.  Maybe start having
a look at the uga/pga stats for connected sessions and
seeing what this adds up to.

hth
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RE: sql-important

2001-11-14 Thread Nicoll, Iain (Calanais)

Roland,

If it is only 'No Info' that you want to keep then the below should do

SELECT  decode(field1,'No Info','No Info',
 ltrim(substr(mxurval_namn,instr(mxurval_namn,' '
FROM mxurval;

Cheers

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Hallo,

How can I do a  select statement that creates this:

I have the field1

Jimmy  Y1000
Timmy  L3
No Info


and I want the select to  give me this:

Jimmy
Timmy
No Info

You see It should still be 'No info' after  the select statement.

How can I change this statement?

SELECT  ltrim(substr(mxurval_namn,instr(mxurval_namn,' ')))
FROM mxurval;

Thanks in advance

Roland S




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Ang: RE: sql-important

2001-11-14 Thread Roland . Skoldblom


Well in should be the the word 'Test today' to be included in the sql statement








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Roland,

If it is only 'No Info' that you want to keep then the below should do

SELECT  decode(field1,'No Info','No Info',
 ltrim(substr(mxurval_namn,instr(mxurval_namn,' '
FROM mxurval;

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Hallo,

How can I do a  select statement that creates this:

I have the field1

Jimmy  Y1000
Timmy  L3
No Info


and I want the select to  give me this:

Jimmy
Timmy
No Info

You see It should still be 'No info' after  the select statement.

How can I change this statement?

SELECT  ltrim(substr(mxurval_namn,instr(mxurval_namn,' ')))
FROM mxurval;

Thanks in advance

Roland S




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komplex sql

2001-11-14 Thread Roland . Skoldblom





Hallo,

How can I do a  select statement that creates this:

I have the field1

Jimmy  Y1000
Timmy  L3
No Info
Missing Info

and I want the select to  give me this:

Jimmy
Timmy
No Info
Missing Info

You see It should still be 'No info'  and 'Missing Info'after  the select statement.

How can I change this statement?

SELECT  ltrim(substr(mxurval_namn,instr(mxurval_namn,' ')))
FROM mxurval;

Thanks in advance

Roland S


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RE: ok..this is funny.. how do you pronounce tuple

2001-11-14 Thread Mark Leith

Yeah - kind of like too-you-pull but a lot quicker..

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Hmm, dilemma - neither

tyu pul

Mainly because thats what my Ingres Course Instructor used in class, many,
many years ago.

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Write out of good old relational theory.. 
So is it (too pul). or (tuh pall)..

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Antwort: komplex sql

2001-11-14 Thread Ivo . Libal


maybe something like this:

SELECT  DECODE(mxurval_namn,'No Info','No Info','Missing Info','Missing
Info',ltrim(substr(mxurval_namn,instr(mxurval_namn,' '
FROM mxurval;

I dint try it
Ivo





   

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Hallo,

How can I do a  select statement that creates this:

I have the field1

Jimmy  Y1000
Timmy  L3
No Info
Missing Info

and I want the select to  give me this:

Jimmy
Timmy
No Info
Missing Info

You see It should still be 'No info'  and 'Missing Info'after  the select
statement.

How can I change this statement?

SELECT  ltrim(substr(mxurval_namn,instr(mxurval_namn,' ')))
FROM mxurval;

Thanks in advance

Roland S


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RE: who execute scripts in Win NT like Unix!!

2001-11-14 Thread Thomas, Kevin

Alex,

echo spool output.lis sql_file.sql
echo SELECT s.sid,   sql_file.sql
echos.serial#,   sql_file.sql
echop.pid,   sql_file.sql
echop.spid,  sql_file.sql
echos.osuser,sql_file.sql
echos.machine,   sql_file.sql
echos.programsql_file.sql
echo   FROM v$session s, v$process p sql_file.sql
echo  WHERE p.addr = s.paddr sql_file.sql
echoAND s.schemaname  'SYS'sql_file.sql
echo  ORDER BY p.spid,s.sid, p.pid, p.spid;  sql_file.sql
echo  exit   sql_file.sql
echo spool off   sql_file.sql

sqlplus dbvision/dbvision@t_nhspint @sql_file.sql


Put the above commands into a DOS batch file and then run it...you can add
in things like SET LINESIZE etc...just the same way as the spool command is
written.

Cheers,
Kev.

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Hi gurus!!!
I need execute any scripts in win nt like oracle in unix!!!
example:
sqlplus user/password  fin
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   s.serial#,
   p.pid,
   p.spid,
   s.osuser,
   s.machine,
   s.program
FROM v\$session s, v\$process p
WHERE p.addr = s.paddr
  AND s.schemaname  'SYS'
  ORDER BY p.spid,s.sid, p.pid, p.spid;
fin

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RE: komplex sql

2001-11-14 Thread Iulian . ILIES

I hope I got you right. Anyway here's a not so complex sql

SELECT DECODE(mxurval_namn, NULL, 'No Info',
ltrim(substr(mxurval_namn,instr(mxurval_namn,' '
FROM mxurval;

I'm not sure what do you mean by 'No Info' and 'Missing Info'???

HTH
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Hallo,

How can I do a  select statement that creates this:

I have the field1

Jimmy  Y1000
Timmy  L3
No Info
Missing Info

and I want the select to  give me this:

Jimmy
Timmy
No Info
Missing Info

You see It should still be 'No info'  and 'Missing Info'after  the select
statement.

How can I change this statement?

SELECT  ltrim(substr(mxurval_namn,instr(mxurval_namn,' ')))
FROM mxurval;

Thanks in advance

Roland S


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RE: ok..this is funny.. how do you pronounce tuple

2001-11-14 Thread Thomas, Kevin

Kindof like tooyoupull only different...!

 ;o)

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Yeah - kind of like too-you-pull but a lot quicker..

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Hmm, dilemma - neither

tyu pul

Mainly because thats what my Ingres Course Instructor used in class, many,
many years ago.

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Write out of good old relational theory.. 
So is it (too pul). or (tuh pall)..

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Re: lack of memory

2001-11-14 Thread Edward Shevtsov

Connor,

thanks for the reply. I'd thought about it. Unfortunately, it's quite difficult to 
catch the
difference as number of users is not constant and they do different job (oltp queries, 
big reports).

Thanks,
Ed



 (Of course depending on the app), its seems odd that
 4G is insufficient for 400 users.  Maybe start having
 a look at the uga/pga stats for connected sessions and
 seeing what this adds up to.

 hth
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RE: [OT 9ias] RE: 9i install on Win2K

2001-11-14 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

Read, read, read.

Then as you encounter problems, search in MetaLink.

I would recommend using 1.0.2.2. at the very least, even with 1.0.2.2. there
are quirks to work through.

I am applying patchset 8 today...

Regards,
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Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

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Subject:[OT 9ias] RE: 9i install on Win2K

I know this is probably OT but since people were talking
about 9i
install I wanted to mention that I have no problems with 9i.  It is
9i
application server that I seem to be having a problem.  I tried to
put 9i
Application Server Enterprise Edition version 1.0.2.1 on Windows
2000 (which
does run on a Pentium 4) and the beast would not completely install.
Things
like Forms Server were missing.  I was wondering if anybody had any
experience with the installation of if you know of any pointer that
I can
follow to fix my problem.  Thanks for the help!
Sincerely,
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I have not tried to install 9i on my Win2K partition.  Don't need
to, right
now.  Happy with 9i on Suse linux so far.

Gerardo

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RE: komplex sql

2001-11-14 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe

SELECT  DECODE(field1,'No Info','No Info','Missing Info','Missing
Info',ltrim(su
bstr(field1,1,instr(field1,' ')-1)))
FROM mytable

This works I have ran it myself. eg.

SQL @lee

FIELD1   DECODE(FIELD1,'NOINF
 
Jimmy J1000  Jimmy
No Info  No Info
Timmy J1000  Timmy
Missing Info Missing Info



Roland, I don't mean to be harsh, but can I politely suggest that you get
yourself either booked on or self study Oracle Basics.

It seems that when someone provides you with a solution to a problem, rather
than press ahead and solve the rest of it yourself you merely ask another
question. For example, your previous question to this was how to get No
info selected. Next you ask how to get Missing Info as well.

Logic suggests that you merely repeat the solution you were given for the
previous question re. No Info.

Sorry if I appear to be giving a lecture here but of late it seems that you
are throwing questions to the list without taking anytime to think about
them yourself.

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Hallo,

How can I do a  select statement that creates this:

I have the field1

Jimmy  Y1000
Timmy  L3
No Info
Missing Info

and I want the select to  give me this:

Jimmy
Timmy
No Info
Missing Info

You see It should still be 'No info'  and 'Missing Info'after  the select
statement.

How can I change this statement?

SELECT  ltrim(substr(mxurval_namn,instr(mxurval_namn,' ')))
FROM mxurval;

Thanks in advance

Roland S


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IP Address Change

2001-11-14 Thread O'Neill, Sean

Our network folk have informed me that they are going to have to change the
scope of IP addresses at our site and hance the IP addresses of our servers
will change.  We don't use Oracle names or MTS.  We're all NT/W2K servers
and use DNS.  Are there any gothca's I need to be aware of.  Our TNSnames
and Listener files use the host name and not specific IP addresses.  I've
had a browse around MetaLink and have not ID'ed any problems thus far but
more experienced feedback would be appreciated.

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Problems with Pro*C

2001-11-14 Thread ehsan sinavalda

Hello

I am a novice to ProC. I have Some problems with
compiling a sample file from ProC manual

for the code:

char userid[12]=scott/tiger;
EXEC SQL CONNECT :userid

I receive an error that says userid is an undefined
variable, could someone help me?

Thanks very much

E.

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RE: IP Address Change

2001-11-14 Thread GKor

we changed serveral times and did'nt encounter any problems, you correctly
mentioned the listener en tnsnames files 
(the hostname doesn't change accidentally?)

g.g. kor
rdw ict the netherlands

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Ang: RE: komplex sql

2001-11-14 Thread Roland . Skoldblom


But if I have this field1

Kenny Jenny A1000
Jenny L1000
No info
Missing Info

I would  have:
Kenny Jenny
Jenny
No info
Missing Info

How do I solve this: I just want the last word in the field to betaken away in the 
select statement.


Roland







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Kopia:

SELECT  DECODE(field1,'No Info','No Info','Missing Info','Missing
Info',ltrim(su
bstr(field1,1,instr(field1,' ')-1)))
FROM mytable

This works I have ran it myself. eg.

SQL @lee

FIELD1   DECODE(FIELD1,'NOINF
 
Jimmy J1000  Jimmy
No Info  No Info
Timmy J1000  Timmy
Missing Info Missing Info



Roland, I don't mean to be harsh, but can I politely suggest that you get
yourself either booked on or self study Oracle Basics.

It seems that when someone provides you with a solution to a problem, rather
than press ahead and solve the rest of it yourself you merely ask another
question. For example, your previous question to this was how to get No
info selected. Next you ask how to get Missing Info as well.

Logic suggests that you merely repeat the solution you were given for the
previous question re. No Info.

Sorry if I appear to be giving a lecture here but of late it seems that you
are throwing questions to the list without taking anytime to think about
them yourself.

Regards

Lee



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Hallo,

How can I do a  select statement that creates this:

I have the field1

Jimmy  Y1000
Timmy  L3
No Info
Missing Info

and I want the select to  give me this:

Jimmy
Timmy
No Info
Missing Info

You see It should still be 'No info'  and 'Missing Info'after  the select
statement.

How can I change this statement?

SELECT  ltrim(substr(mxurval_namn,instr(mxurval_namn,' ')))
FROM mxurval;

Thanks in advance

Roland S


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RE: IP Address Change

2001-11-14 Thread Denham Eva
Title: RE: IP Address Change





Sean,


I've been there, we use the same sort of enviroment as you do.
The only problem I experienced was network resolution were the servers could not resolve the DNS name etc.
Unfortunately if the user cannot connect to Oracle! It must be a database problem!:) 
(Which in my case never was.)
Something to watchout for, Clever users who have set their own clients via ip addresses.


Tools I used when we did the crossover was ping and tnsping, used together they give you an excelent idea of what is going on. Most importantly, if it is your problem or a network issue.

Hope it goes well
Regards
Denham


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RE: how to extract text from LONG field

2001-11-14 Thread Amar Kumar Padhi
Title: how to extract text from LONG field



Create a procedure and 
use a cursor to pick the long column. You can now use functions in your code for 
the variable being populated with the long column.
declare cursor c1 is  select 
trigger_name, trigger_body  from 
user_triggers;c1_rec c1%rowtype;begin open 
c1; loop fetch c1 into c1_rec; 
exit when c1%notfound; if 
upper(c1_rec.trigger_body) like '%amar kumar padhi%' 
then 
dbms_output.put_line(c1_rec.trigger_name); 
else -- 
dbms_output.put_line(c1_rec.trigger_name); 
null; end 
if; end loop; close 
c1;end;/

rgds amar 


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  ORACLE-LSubject: how to extract text from LONG 
  field
  Hi! 
  Is there a way that I can extract the source code of a trigger 
  from dba_triggers? The problem is that the information is stored in a LONG 
  colum.
  SQLWKS desc dba_triggers Column 
  Name 
  Null? Type --   OWNER 
  VARCHAR2(30) TRIGGER_NAME 
  VARCHAR2(30) TRIGGER_TYPE 
  VARCHAR2(16) TRIGGERING_EVENT 
  VARCHAR2(216) TABLE_OWNER 
  VARCHAR2(30) BASE_OBJECT_TYPE 
  VARCHAR2(16) TABLE_NAME 
  VARCHAR2(30) COLUMN_NAME 
  VARCHAR2(4000) REFERENCING_NAMES 
  VARCHAR2(128) WHEN_CLAUSE 
  VARCHAR2(4000) STATUS 
  VARCHAR2(8) DESCRIPTION 
  VARCHAR2(4000) ACTION_TYPE 
  VARCHAR2(11) TRIGGER_BODY 
  LONG 
  select table_owner, table_name from dba_triggers 
  where trigger_body like '%T_JOURNAL%'; 
  does not work, because the LONG field can't be searched with 
  LIKE. to_char conversion doesn't work either. 
  Any ideas? 
  This is 8.1.7 on Sun Solaris. 
  Thanks, Helmut 



Sqlimportante

2001-11-14 Thread Roland . Skoldblom


Hallo,


If  I have this field1

Kenny Jenny A1000
Jenny L1000
No info
Missing Info

I would  have:

Kenny Jenny
Jenny
No info
Missing Info

How do I write the select statement to solve this
 I just want the last word in the field to be taken away in the result from the select 
statement.


Roland S

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Re: Ang: RE: komplex sql

2001-11-14 Thread Jan Pruner

 How do I solve this: I just want the last word in the field to betaken away
 in the select statement.

Read oracle manual about INSTR and SUBSTR functions.

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RE: Problems with Pro*C

2001-11-14 Thread Cale, Rick T (Richard)

Do you have userid between?  All variables used in embedded sql must be
declare in this section.

EXEC SQL BEGIN DECLARE SECTION;

EXEC SQL END DECLARE SECTION;

Rick
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Hello

I am a novice to ProC. I have Some problems with
compiling a sample file from ProC manual

for the code:

char userid[12]=scott/tiger;
EXEC SQL CONNECT :userid

I receive an error that says userid is an undefined
variable, could someone help me?

Thanks very much

E.

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Re: Ang: RE: komplex sql

2001-11-14 Thread nlzanen1


Hi,


Lookup the substr, instr, decode etc... functions in the fine manual.
Excellent source for this kind of information


Jack

Go-ahead and start flaming!!!




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But if I have this field1

Kenny Jenny A1000
Jenny L1000
No info
Missing Info

I would  have:
Kenny Jenny
Jenny
No info
Missing Info

How do I solve this: I just want the last word in the field to betaken away
in the select statement.


Roland







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Kopia:

SELECT  DECODE(field1,'No Info','No Info','Missing Info','Missing
Info',ltrim(su
bstr(field1,1,instr(field1,' ')-1)))
FROM mytable

This works I have ran it myself. eg.

SQL @lee

FIELD1   DECODE(FIELD1,'NOINF
 
Jimmy J1000  Jimmy
No Info  No Info
Timmy J1000  Timmy
Missing Info Missing Info



Roland, I don't mean to be harsh, but can I politely suggest that you get
yourself either booked on or self study Oracle Basics.

It seems that when someone provides you with a solution to a problem,
rather
than press ahead and solve the rest of it yourself you merely ask another
question. For example, your previous question to this was how to get No
info selected. Next you ask how to get Missing Info as well.

Logic suggests that you merely repeat the solution you were given for the
previous question re. No Info.

Sorry if I appear to be giving a lecture here but of late it seems that you
are throwing questions to the list without taking anytime to think about
them yourself.

Regards

Lee



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Hallo,

How can I do a  select statement that creates this:

I have the field1

Jimmy  Y1000
Timmy  L3
No Info
Missing Info

and I want the select to  give me this:

Jimmy
Timmy
No Info
Missing Info

You see It should still be 'No info'  and 'Missing Info'after  the select
statement.

How can I change this statement?

SELECT  ltrim(substr(mxurval_namn,instr(mxurval_namn,' ')))
FROM mxurval;

Thanks in advance

Roland S


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Re: komplex sql

2001-11-14 Thread Igor Neyman

 Sorry if I appear to be giving a lecture here but of late it seems that
you
 are throwing questions to the list without taking anytime to think about
 them yourself.


So true.  I was thinking the same.

Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
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 SELECT  DECODE(field1,'No Info','No Info','Missing Info','Missing
 Info',ltrim(su
 bstr(field1,1,instr(field1,' ')-1)))
 FROM mytable

 This works I have ran it myself. eg.

 SQL @lee

 FIELD1   DECODE(FIELD1,'NOINF
  
 Jimmy J1000  Jimmy
 No Info  No Info
 Timmy J1000  Timmy
 Missing Info Missing Info



 Roland, I don't mean to be harsh, but can I politely suggest that you get
 yourself either booked on or self study Oracle Basics.

 It seems that when someone provides you with a solution to a problem,
rather
 than press ahead and solve the rest of it yourself you merely ask another
 question. For example, your previous question to this was how to get No
 info selected. Next you ask how to get Missing Info as well.

 Logic suggests that you merely repeat the solution you were given for the
 previous question re. No Info.

 Sorry if I appear to be giving a lecture here but of late it seems that
you
 are throwing questions to the list without taking anytime to think about
 them yourself.

 Regards

 Lee



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 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L






 Hallo,

 How can I do a  select statement that creates this:

 I have the field1

 Jimmy  Y1000
 Timmy  L3
 No Info
 Missing Info

 and I want the select to  give me this:

 Jimmy
 Timmy
 No Info
 Missing Info

 You see It should still be 'No info'  and 'Missing Info'after  the select
 statement.

 How can I change this statement?

 SELECT  ltrim(substr(mxurval_namn,instr(mxurval_namn,' ')))
 FROM mxurval;

 Thanks in advance

 Roland S


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RE: Sqlimportante

2001-11-14 Thread Cale, Rick T (Richard)

You can try something like

SELECT SUBSTR(field1,1,INSTR(field1,' ',-1)-1)
FROM your_table;

This are limitations. This assumes no trailing spaces and words are
separated by a single space.
If without limitations you could write pl/sql to do the same thing.

HTH
Rick

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Hallo,


If  I have this field1

Kenny Jenny A1000
Jenny L1000
No info
Missing Info

I would  have:

Kenny Jenny
Jenny
No info
Missing Info

How do I write the select statement to solve this
 I just want the last word in the field to be taken away in the result from
the select statement.


Roland S

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RE: who execute scripts in Win NT like Unix!!

2001-11-14 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F

@lex,

What I usually do in NT is to create a temporary file containing the sql
statement within the NT batch job and then execute it via sqlplus.  This,
for me, is easier to maintain - less files to open when making changes.

echo SELECT s.sid,   temp.sql
echos.serial#,   temp.sql
echop.pid,   temp.sql
echop.spid,  temp.sql
echos.osuser,temp.sql
echos.machine,   temp.sql
echos.programtemp.sql
echo FROM v$session s, v$process p   temp.sql
echo WHERE p.addr = s.paddr  temp.sql
echo   AND s.schemaname  'SYS' temp.sql
echo  ORDER BY p.spid,s.sid, p.pid, p.spid;  temp.sql
echo  exit   temp.sql
sqlplus user/password @temp.sql

hope this helps.

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


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Hi gurus!!!
I need execute any scripts in win nt like oracle in unix!!!
example:
sqlplus user/password  fin
SELECT s.sid,
   s.serial#,
   p.pid,
   p.spid,
   s.osuser,
   s.machine,
   s.program
FROM v\$session s, v\$process p
WHERE p.addr = s.paddr
  AND s.schemaname  'SYS'
  ORDER BY p.spid,s.sid, p.pid, p.spid;
fin

@lex

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Re: Sqlimportante

2001-11-14 Thread Jan Pruner

Read oracle manual about INSTR and SUBSTR functions.

JP

On Wed 14. November 2001 13:35, you wrote:
 Hallo,


 If  I have this field1

 Kenny Jenny A1000
 Jenny L1000
 No info
 Missing Info

 I would  have:

 Kenny Jenny
 Jenny
 No info
 Missing Info

 How do I write the select statement to solve this
  I just want the last word in the field to be taken away in the result from
 the select statement.


 Roland S
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Re: IP Address Change

2001-11-14 Thread Gene Sais

Another idea:

1) Add db dns alias for each db.  For example, db name=qodp,  db dns alias=qodpdb for 
db server that qodp resides on.

2) On unix db servers and client machines, put db dns alias for host in tnsnames.ora.  
This allows you to change the location of the db to a different server w/ only a dns 
change.

3) On unix db servers, put localhost in listener.ora.

Gene

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Data integration script using PERL

2001-11-14 Thread ALEMU Abiy



Is there someone 
who wrote a script in a PERL language designed to insert data in Oracle tables 
by reading data from a text data file ? If so, is it possible to have just 
an example of it so that I can adapt it for my need. Just not to reinvent 
the wheel  

Thanx




Re: Sqlimportante

2001-11-14 Thread Igor Neyman

Roland,

First, if you want the last word in the field to be taken away, then the
result will be this:

Kenny Jenny
Jenny
No
Missing

not that:

Kenny Jenny
Jenny
No info
Missing Info

Second, as many listers already suggested, start reading oracle manuals.

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 Hallo,


 If  I have this field1

 Kenny Jenny A1000
 Jenny L1000
 No info
 Missing Info

 I would  have:

 Kenny Jenny
 Jenny
 No info
 Missing Info

 How do I write the select statement to solve this
  I just want the last word in the field to be taken away in the result
from the select statement.


 Roland S

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real newbie question (i think)

2001-11-14 Thread Rich Davidson
Title: how to extract text from LONG field



hey all,

i'm in your typical situation of "we don't 
need a dba...oracle is an app so the bizapps guy can handle it"right...now 
to reality. there is a column in our database (oracle isthe back end 
of our crm package) that is defined as a long and they want to do keyword 
searches on it. i've found out that you can't use type long in a where 
clause.

i guess i have a few questions and i'm 
going to assume the answers (if anyone answers...please oh please do) will be a 
matter of opinion. am i better off creating a new column in the existing 
table of the type clob or blob? should i create a new table to store this 
data? and what would be my best way to keep these columns in sync...every 
time someone updated the long column i would want my new column updated to 
reflect the change.

right now we're on 8.0.6/win 2k...but 
could upgrade to 8.1.7 (means upgrading our crm package too) if it makes this 
process easier.

thanks in advance for the help and not 
being a dba i hope what i wrote makes 
sense!

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IDL_UB1$

2001-11-14 Thread Ivo . Libal

Hello All
I found in our database, that some of the sys tables have many extents (up
to 700). These are IDL_*  tables and some other tables related to our heavy
use of plsql packages (like sources$, dependency$ etc). On metalink I found
that it is possible to change the next parameter of the table, but I
would like to ask you if you know about a way how to recreate the existing
fragmented tables?

What option would be possible? (sorted by preference)

1.rebuild the table online without need to do anything else
2.rebuild the table online with a need to disconnect users
3.drop all packages/functions ..., truncate the tables (idl_ub1$ etc.) and
load all sources from export (+catalog etc.)
4.recreate database + change next extent on the tables + load everything
from export

Or is there other posibility?
The database is 8.1.7 on Linux
Kind regards
Ivo Libal



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seouc in Feb.

2001-11-14 Thread Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130)
Title: seouc in Feb.





I know it's a little far in advance, but
is anyone planning on going to the
SEOUC in Feb. in Charlotte, North Carolina?


It looks like I'll be presenting at it.



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RE: RE: komplex sql

2001-11-14 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe

Not on my data it doesn't.

SQL select * from mytable;

FIELD1

Jimmy J1000
No Info
Timmy Jimmy J1000
Missing Info

SQL @lee

FIELD1   DECODE(FIELD1,'NOINF
 
Jimmy J1000  Jimmy
No Info  No Info
Timmy Jimmy J1000Timmy
Missing Info Missing Info

It may have helped if you had told us all EXACTLY what you wanted at the
very start of this ever expanding list of questions.

I personally cannot donate any more time to this thread.

Lee

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But if I have this field1

Kenny Jenny A1000
Jenny L1000
No info
Missing Info

I would  have:
Kenny Jenny
Jenny
No info
Missing Info

How do I solve this: I just want the last word in the field to betaken away
in the select statement.


Roland







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03:50 PST

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Kopia:

SELECT  DECODE(field1,'No Info','No Info','Missing Info','Missing
Info',ltrim(su
bstr(field1,1,instr(field1,' ')-1)))
FROM mytable

This works I have ran it myself. eg.

SQL @lee

FIELD1   DECODE(FIELD1,'NOINF
 
Jimmy J1000  Jimmy
No Info  No Info
Timmy J1000  Timmy
Missing Info Missing Info



Roland, I don't mean to be harsh, but can I politely suggest that you get
yourself either booked on or self study Oracle Basics.

It seems that when someone provides you with a solution to a problem, rather
than press ahead and solve the rest of it yourself you merely ask another
question. For example, your previous question to this was how to get No
info selected. Next you ask how to get Missing Info as well.

Logic suggests that you merely repeat the solution you were given for the
previous question re. No Info.

Sorry if I appear to be giving a lecture here but of late it seems that you
are throwing questions to the list without taking anytime to think about
them yourself.

Regards

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Hallo,

How can I do a  select statement that creates this:

I have the field1

Jimmy  Y1000
Timmy  L3
No Info
Missing Info

and I want the select to  give me this:

Jimmy
Timmy
No Info
Missing Info

You see It should still be 'No info'  and 'Missing Info'after  the select
statement.

How can I change this statement?

SELECT  ltrim(substr(mxurval_namn,instr(mxurval_namn,' ')))
FROM mxurval;

Thanks in advance

Roland S


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RE: Next extent problem

2001-11-14 Thread Gene Gurevich

Dennis,

I'm not even sure what is the uniform extents (are you
talking about the LMTS?). So I think the answer is no

Gene
--- DENNIS WILLIAMS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Just thought it wouldn't
 hurt to ask.
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 Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 3:51 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Deepak,
 
 thanks for the input. I have double-checked the
 pctincrease and it is set to 0 on all tables in my
 schema. Regarding the rounding up of the number of
 blocks, that would have explained if the extents
 were
 larger than my next extents size. As it now, my
 block
 size is 8K. The next extent - 512K - is 64blocks.
 The
 extents size are either 2 or 3 blocks only. 
 
 Gene
 --- Deepak Thapliyal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  check the value of pctincrease for your table from
  user_tables/dba_tables. note that the default
  pctincrease for tablespace is 50. my guess
  pctincrease
  value fo your table is non-zero
  
  alternatively, the size might be attributed to the
  fact that oracle rounds the number of blocks that
  make
  up the extent. i forget what that is .. my tired
  brain
  cells tell me that its something like 5 blocks or
 so
  .
  
  
  Deepak
  
  
  
  --- Gene Gurevich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   Hi.
   
   I have two tables in my database. They both have
   the NEXT_EXTENT set to 512K for a long time. Yet
   all the extents for these tables are either 16
   or 24K. I have checked the next extent sessing
  once
   and again and it has always shown 512K. The
 tables
   are not being truncated. Why would Oracle create
   the new extents with different size? Is there
 any
   other
   place I need to check?
   
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RE: Power outage

2001-11-14 Thread Mohan, Ross

Congrats on pulling yer A** out of the fire..

Amazing that it was a control file...given that
L:\ORADATA\LV54\DATA\TBL_FCS_FBTS1_01.DBF was showing
as being unwriteable.

Nice work

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I ran dbverify on the control files and found one that was corrupt.  I
edited the init.ora and took out the bad control file(I use two control
files).  Then I started up the database and it came up just fine.  Made a
new control file and I'm back up and running.

Dave

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Hmm...well...yikesif you can place that file back, you might have a
chance
if what you need is in the online redo..

if you can't, and you need to go to a backup...it'll be a cold one

scratching head




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That is correct

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I think you are in NOARCHIVELOG mode?  

Can you *see* L:\ORADATA\LV54\DATA\TBL_FCS_FBTS1_01.DBF in Explorer?

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We had a power outage and the network admins found out that the UPS sucks.
I have an Oracle 8.0.5 on NT 4.0 that got rudely bounced a couple of times
due to loss of power.  Now I have a problem in bringing it back up.
Here is what I get in my SIDLGWR file.

*** SESSION ID:(3.1) 2001.01.05.21.32.37.250
ORA-01110: data file 12: 'L:\ORADATA\LV54\DATA\TBL_FCS_FBTS1_01.DBF'
ORA-01114: IO error writing block to file 12 (block # 1)
ORA-27072: skgfdisp: I/O error
OSD-04008: WriteFile() failure, unable to write to file
O/S-Error: (OS 5) Access is denied.
error 1242 detected in background process
Dump file J:\ORA805\ADMIN\LV54\BDUMP\lv54LGWR.TRC
Tue Nov 13 13:55:57 2001
ORACLE V8.0.5.0.0 - Production vsnsta=0
vsnsql=c vsnxtr=3
Windows NT V4.0, OS V5.101, CPU type 586
Oracle8 Enterprise Edition Release 8.0.5.0.0 - Production
PL/SQL Release 8.0.5.0.0 - Production
Windows NT V4.0, OS V5.101, CPU type 586
Instance name: lv54

Redo thread mounted by this instance: 0 none

Oracle process number: 4

pid: db

I cannot get the database to mount.  Any ideas!!

Thanks,

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Bug 1367773

2001-11-14 Thread Edward Shevtsov

Hi List,

does anyone have description (body) of bug # 1367773

Thanks in advance,
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RE: seouc in Feb.

2001-11-14 Thread Bowes, Chris
Title: seouc in Feb.



Going 
to try, since it's only 30 min from the house.

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  8:59 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  seouc in Feb.
  I know it's a little far in advance, but is anyone planning on going to the SEOUC in 
  Feb. in Charlotte, North Carolina? 
  It looks like I'll be presenting at it. 
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RE: IDL_UB1$

2001-11-14 Thread Deshpande, Kirti

Pl take a look at Note # 1021102.6 on Metalink. It may help you fix this
problem..

HTH,

Regards.

- Kirti 

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 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 7:51 AM
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 Subject:  IDL_UB1$ 
 
 Hello All
 I found in our database, that some of the sys tables have many extents (up
 to 700). These are IDL_*  tables and some other tables related to our
 heavy
 use of plsql packages (like sources$, dependency$ etc). On metalink I
 found
 that it is possible to change the next parameter of the table, but I
 would like to ask you if you know about a way how to recreate the existing
 fragmented tables?
 
 What option would be possible? (sorted by preference)
 
 1.rebuild the table online without need to do anything else
 2.rebuild the table online with a need to disconnect users
 3.drop all packages/functions ..., truncate the tables (idl_ub1$ etc.) and
 load all sources from export (+catalog etc.)
 4.recreate database + change next extent on the tables + load everything
 from export
 
 Or is there other posibility?
 The database is 8.1.7 on Linux
 Kind regards
 Ivo Libal
 
 
 
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RE: Next extent problem

2001-11-14 Thread Sakthi , Raj

Gene,
a shot-in-the-darkis your 'minimum extent' size
set to 24K..? That is the only other thing that comes
to my mind

Cheers,
RS
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 you
 talking about the LMTS?). So I think the answer is
 no
 
 Gene
 --- DENNIS WILLIAMS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Gene - Are you using uniform extents by any
 chance?
  Just thought it wouldn't
  hurt to ask.
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  Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 3:51 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  Deepak,
  
  thanks for the input. I have double-checked the
  pctincrease and it is set to 0 on all tables in my
  schema. Regarding the rounding up of the number of
  blocks, that would have explained if the extents
  were
  larger than my next extents size. As it now, my
  block
  size is 8K. The next extent - 512K - is 64blocks.
  The
  extents size are either 2 or 3 blocks only. 
  
  Gene
  --- Deepak Thapliyal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
   check the value of pctincrease for your table
 from
   user_tables/dba_tables. note that the default
   pctincrease for tablespace is 50. my guess
   pctincrease
   value fo your table is non-zero
   
   alternatively, the size might be attributed to
 the
   fact that oracle rounds the number of blocks
 that
   make
   up the extent. i forget what that is .. my tired
   brain
   cells tell me that its something like 5 blocks
 or
  so
   .
   
   
   Deepak
   
   
   
   --- Gene Gurevich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
Hi.

I have two tables in my database. They both
 have
the NEXT_EXTENT set to 512K for a long time.
 Yet
all the extents for these tables are either 16
or 24K. I have checked the next extent sessing
   once
and again and it has always shown 512K. The
  tables
are not being truncated. Why would Oracle
 create
the new extents with different size? Is there
  any
other
place I need to check?

thanks for any input

Gene

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Re: STATSPACK Info

2001-11-14 Thread Scott Shafer

Raj,

I think there is a book devoted to Statspack if you search Amazon or
Bookpool.

Scott Shafer
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 Are there any docs available on interpreting statspack output other than the
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Personal Oracle tools on WIN98

2001-11-14 Thread Patrick Beyltjens




Hi,

I just installed Personal Oracle 8.1.7 on a win98 
machine, this seems ok
Now i want to installdeveloper 6i-rel 2 on 
this machine. But after starting the Oracle installer and fill in the company 
name I get the followingerror message

The location specified "C:\Oracle\Ora81", is 
already used as an Oracle home for "Oracle 815 Production" It cannot be used as 
an Oracle Home for "Win95"

What is wrong ?


Regards

Patrick


Re: seouc in Feb.

2001-11-14 Thread Stefan Jahnke

Hi,

when exactly will it be ?

cheers,
Stefan

Bowes, Chris schrieb:

  Going to try, since it's only 30 min from the house. --Chris
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  I know it's a little far in advance, but
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  It looks like I'll be presenting at it.

  
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Re: ok..this is funny.. how do you pronounce tuple

2001-11-14 Thread Stefan Jahnke

Hi,

it's just like Tulip, just kind of different...

cheers,
Stefan

Thomas, Kevin schrieb:

 Kindof like tooyoupull only different...!

  ;o)

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 Hmm, dilemma - neither

 tyu pul

 Mainly because thats what my Ingres Course Instructor used in class, many,
 many years ago.

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Re: Another Oracle DBA gets The Bullet WAS: Help!: Job Descrip

2001-11-14 Thread Scott Shafer

Sorry, I wasn't paying attention to the headers.  I thought it _WAS_ on
the OT list...
I will make sure Rachel flogs me with wet spaghetti as penance.

--S


Rachel Carmichael wrote:
 
 at this point guys move this to the ot list before Jared gets
 annoyed...
 
 but while I have your attention:
 
 I've SEEN Scott and Jeff in the same room. Ladies, find those chastity
 belts -;)
 
 --- Scott Shafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Doh!  Sorry for the oversite - lots on my mind lately.  You're
  definitely invited, Jeff.  We'll work sumthin' out.
 
  --S
 
 
  Jeffery Stevenson wrote:
  
   Bail money???  Why wasn't I invited?  :)
  
   Yeah, like was mentioned, there's some positions available in
  Austin, but
   not as prevalent as it used to be.  VC money has been tightened up
  so a lot
   of these companies looking to grow have been hit hard (and the
  bigger
   companies are just cutting back to save money).  The problem I see
  though is
   that companies seem to be trimming back too much.  I'm starting to
  hear
   little rumours here and there of companies going, Maybe we
  shouldn't have
   gotten rid of most of our support/operations people?  It's not bad
  here
   though...it'll pick back up again...and I agree it's a great place
  to live.
  
   Guvm'nt jobs?  Eep!  Yeah Scott, I noticed that SA had about 4
  times as many
   Oracle/DBA positions listed than Austin when I scouting the market
  for a
   friend who's looking at this area.  That scared me...
  
   Jeffery Stevenson
   Databeast Slayer
   Medical Present Value, Inc.
   Austin, TX
  
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   Description for
  
   David,
  
   Yes you should drive down/me drive up to meet.  Just let me get
  past some
   current difficulties.  We could leave bail money with the wives!
  Hehehe...
  
   San Antonio (SA) has been hit, but definitely not as hard as
   Austin/Dallas/Houston.  I'll probably regret this (if I end up
  competing for
   a job), but anyone looking for a job could do a lot worse than
  looking in
   SA.  Most of the tech jobs here are government, gov/private
  consulting, or
   big company IT (USAA, MCI, SBC, etc).  The largest industry however
  is
   tourism, which has been hammered.  This doesn't affect techies much
  though.
  
   If one has no qualms about managing databases of bigger and better
  ways to
   break things and kill people, then DOD contracting is the way to
  go in
   Central Texas.  Cost of living is very low, and SA is the 8th
  largest city
   in the US.  Upsides:  steady work, excellent food, mild winters,
  lots of
   recreational activities.  Downsides:  Inept city government, yearly
  drought,
   HOT for 9 months of the year.
  
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   Description for
  
   
Thanks folks for the replies I got.  Compiled them into a sort of
superDeveloper/Data Architect/All-Around wonderful human being
  job
description.
   
The job market in Austin is really poor for us high-tech types
  right
   now.
This was the home or a principal branch office of a large number
  of failed
dot coms and Internet business ventures.  A partial list of
  Austin
   failures
includes (but is by no means limited to):
   
Netpliance
Hand Technologies
ConnectSouth (my alma mater)
DrKoop.Com
Garden.Com
Furniture.Com
carOrder.Com
   
Layoffs in many (most?) surviving companies have further added to
  the glut
of talent out on the streets.  Other large Austin employers
  reducing staff
in the tech area include AMD, Motorola, SamSung, IBM, Perficient
  and CSC.
Non-tech companies such as law firms, travel agencies (they're
  pretty much
toast right now anyway), and advertising agencies have been
  really hurt by
the abrupt cessation of money which used to flow from the
  startups.
   
It's still a great place to live, but a month or two ago, even
  the Austin
American-Statesman noted that the area was experiencing a
  brain-drain as
the job-seeker/jobs ratio climbed ever higher.  Last week, they
  posited
   the
major reason for the area not experiencing a total employment
  tragedy was
the abundance of State and Local jobs, which, until about 9
  months ago,
went begging as private industry vacuumed anybody who could spell
  PC off
the street (if you could spell DBA you had it made).
   
The Sunday help-wanted ads have gone from 4 full pages of
  Computer Jobs
to less than two columns, and there are very few senior positions
available.  We even used to have out-of-town companies advertise,
  but that
trend has dried up as well.
   
It anin't pretty folks.
   
Maybe Scott (I still think I ought to drive down just to meet the
  guy) 

Re[2]: Correction : EMC symetrix - 1M stripe width - Raid 0+

2001-11-14 Thread dgoulet

We're using the Symetrix storage system as well, but we did not use stripping,
but full mirroring instead.  Performance has been more than acceptable, but we
really haven't pushed it I think.  As far as the SAME (Stripe And Mirror
Everything) idea from Oracle, that's great if you have the funds and space for
all of those disk systems.  Otherwise it's 'pie in the sky'.  BTW, you SHOULD
look into EMC's PowerPath software (if available on your system).  This one
allows the computer to balance IO across all of the ports available into the
Symetrix.  It really does improve matters.

Dick Goulet

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Author: =?iso-8859-1?q?Connor=20McDonald?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Interestingly you could go back to Oracle support and
ask them about the SAME method (as presented by an
Oracle employee if I recall correctly at a user
conference) - which advocated 1m stripes.

You'll tend to face these battles with EMC - their
sales people are great at things like you don't need
to worry about where things are on the disk, or
striping etc - our cache takes care of all of
that...Yeah right!

As a general guideline, I think you'd be better of
with smaller stripe size, but you don't have to limit
yourself - you could have fine granined striping for
some parts of the system, and larger grains for other
parts.

hth
connor

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 Application : OLTP
 Environment : Solaris 2.6 on a E10K
 Database  : 8.0.5.2.1
 
 We recently migrated from sun a5200 storage to EMC
 symetrix, and we have
 been seeing occasional performance problems. When
 contacted, Oracle support
 among other things pointed out the stripe width we
 have used 1M, is very
 large and also said users will not see an advantage
 above 64K.
 
 When we had Sun storage before we had 64K as the
 stripe width.
 
 Has anyone faced this kind of issue or has any
 comments..or can someone
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 the ORACLE I/O
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RE: Oracle Text (ConText/InterMedia) and realtime updates

2001-11-14 Thread Jesse, Rich

Hey Tony,

From my understanding of an Autonomous Transaction (which admittedly isn't
much), the sync would always be one update behind, correct?  Because the
auto-trans would execute the sync in the trigger body, the current
update/insert of the indexed column that caused the trigger to fire would
not be committed at the time of sync.  Or am I missing something here?

I glanced at the Catalog Index feature and methinks it deserves smore
investigation.  Thanks!

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I would suggest researching an Autonomous Transaction fired from the trigger
to get around the commit executed by CTX_DDL.SYNC_INDEX.
Another approach I would pursue is to evaluate the use of Catalog Indexes
(8.1.7).  If your requirements fit within the catalog index limitations
(more like an Intermedia Text-lite) then you are in luck since they are
transactional, hence no need for periodic synchronization.
HTH 
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Re: real newbie question (i think)

2001-11-14 Thread Connor McDonald

From 8.1.x upwards, there is a TO_LOB function to
convert from longs.  The best way would be for the app
to understand CLOB's - but I guess thats not an
option. 

If the longs are less than 32k, then you can use
PL/SQL to search them - PL/SQL will support a
varchar2(32767).

hth
connor

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 i'm in your typical situation of we don't need a
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 the bizapps guy can handle itright...now to
 reality.  there is a column
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 package) that is defined
 as a long and they want to do keyword searches on
 it.  i've found out that
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 i guess i have a few questions and i'm going to
 assume the answers (if
 anyone answers...please oh please do) will be a
 matter of opinion.  am i
 better off creating a new column in the existing
 table of the type clob or
 blob?  should i create a new table to store this
 data?  and what would be my
 best way to keep these columns in sync...every time
 someone updated the long
 column i would want my new column updated to reflect
 the change.
  
 right now we're on 8.0.6/win 2k...but could upgrade
 to 8.1.7 (means
 upgrading our crm package too) if it makes this
 process easier.
  
 thanks in advance for the help and not being a dba i
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Re: Personal Oracle tools on WIN98

2001-11-14 Thread Ron Rogers

Patrick,
 I had the same problem and round robin difficulties when I tried to install the WebDB 
2.2 on a machine that had the 8.1.7 client. If you choose another location as the home 
it will fail and say it has to use the original Oracle home. 
I installed the developer 6i-rel 2 in a different directory on my client pc but I only 
have the client software installed for the database not the personal Oracle. My client 
software was installed before the 6i-rel 2 software and they both work. I access my 
Linux 8.1.7 database okay.
Try picking a different load directory for the 6i.
ROR mª¿ªm

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Hi,

I just installed Personal Oracle 8.1.7 on a win98 machine, this seems ok
Now i want to install developer 6i-rel 2 on this machine. But after starting the 
Oracle installer and fill in the company name I get the following error message

The location specified C:\Oracle\Ora81, is already used as an Oracle home for 
Oracle 815 Production It cannot be used as an Oracle Home for Win95

What is wrong ?


Regards

Patrick

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RE: STATSPACK Info

2001-11-14 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe

Raj,


http://www.oracle.com/oramag/oracle/00-Mar/index.html?o20tun.html
http://www.oracle.com/oramag/oracle/00-sep/index.html?o50tun.html
http://www.oracle.com/oramag/oracle/00-nov/index.html?o60tun.html

This was a 3 part series from the Oracle magazine.

HTH

Lee


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Raj,

I think there is a book devoted to Statspack if you search Amazon or
Bookpool.

Scott Shafer
San Antonio, TX


Jamadagni, Rajendra wrote:
 
 Hope the list is up ... this message just returned to me about half hour
ago
 ...
 
 Are there any docs available on interpreting statspack output other than
the
 report itself?  I checked Metalink but couldn't find much.
 
 Thanks in advance
 Raj

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RE: ok..this is funny.. how do you pronounce tuple

2001-11-14 Thread Bellows, Bambi

Tuple.  Like Tupplewear.

Bambi.

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Hi,

it's just like Tulip, just kind of different...

cheers,
Stefan

Thomas, Kevin schrieb:

 Kindof like tooyoupull only different...!

  ;o)

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 Yeah - kind of like too-you-pull but a lot quicker..

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 Hmm, dilemma - neither

 tyu pul

 Mainly because thats what my Ingres Course Instructor used in class, many,
 many years ago.

 Lee

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 Write out of good old relational theory..
 So is it (too pul). or (tuh pall)..

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Enterprise Versus Standard

2001-11-14 Thread Kevin Lange

Does anyone have a good Oracle Standard to Oracle Enterprise comparison
Chart ??   I am looking on the various Oracle ran sites and most of the docs
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Re: IDL_UB1$

2001-11-14 Thread Connor McDonald

Why do you think 700 extents is causing you a problem
?

Just about every read to these tables will always be
an indexed one (since the dictionary is rule-based),
so its not going to matter too much how 'fragmented'
things are.

hth
connor

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 etc). On metalink I found
 that it is possible to change the next parameter
 of the table, but I
 would like to ask you if you know about a way how to
 recreate the existing
 fragmented tables?
 
 What option would be possible? (sorted by
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 1.rebuild the table online without need to do
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 2.rebuild the table online with a need to disconnect
 users
 3.drop all packages/functions ..., truncate the
 tables (idl_ub1$ etc.) and
 load all sources from export (+catalog etc.)
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 Or is there other posibility?
 The database is 8.1.7 on Linux
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Re: seouc in Feb.

2001-11-14 Thread Ron Rogers

Stefan
 See http://seouc.orgFeb 21,22 2002
ROR mª¿ªm

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Hi,

when exactly will it be ?

cheers,
Stefan

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  It looks like I'll be presenting at it.

  
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RE: seouc in Feb.

2001-11-14 Thread Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130)
Title: RE: seouc in Feb.





SouthEastern Oracle Users Conference
Feb 21-22, 2002 Charlotte, NC
Sketchy details are available at
www.seouc.org



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 Hi,
 
 when exactly will it be ?
 
 cheers,
 Stefan
 
 Bowes, Chris schrieb:
 
  Going to try, since it's only 30 min from the house. --Chris
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import/export problem in oem

2001-11-14 Thread hari babu gottipati


hi,gurus

help me ,in this problem

through  command prompt  i got export/import facility .but with same user (with  all 
permissions),i am not able to do same job.

error is:
The following error has occurred while trying to make the connection to the target 
database using preferential credentials
ora-01031:insufficient previleges.

thanks to all

babu
 

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Operating Systems

2001-11-14 Thread Regina Harter

Hi Guys,

Our SA/DBA is considering dumping Unixware and moving to a different 
OS.  Sun is out for reasons that are not being shared with me, probably 
because they don't want to buy new hardware, so aside from that, would 
anyone care to weigh in with opinions on what OS is most stable with 
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Re: Enterprise Versus Standard

2001-11-14 Thread Marin Dimitrov


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 Does anyone have a good Oracle Standard to Oracle Enterprise comparison
 Chart ??   I am looking on the various Oracle ran sites and most of the
docs
 seem to try and steer you to Enterprise.


For 8i take a look at
http://technet.oracle.com/products/oracle8i/pdf/8i_fam.pdf

for 9i -
http://technet.oracle.com/products/oracle9i/pdf/o9i_family_features.pdf


hth,

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Re: Operating Systems

2001-11-14 Thread Yohans Mendoza

We're really happy w/ linux.
We can't stand the notion of having our OS being rebooted every so often 
just so it can be run optimally.

--Yohans

On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Regina Harter wrote:

 Hi Guys,
 
 Our SA/DBA is considering dumping Unixware and moving to a different 
 OS.  Sun is out for reasons that are not being shared with me, probably 
 because they don't want to buy new hardware, so aside from that, would 
 anyone care to weigh in with opinions on what OS is most stable with 
 Oracle?  AAnd will run on an intel based box?  Ours is not a high 
 transaction system, mostly reads, maybe 100 users a day.
 
 Thanks for your opinions,
 Regina
 
 

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Re: Operating Systems

2001-11-14 Thread Scott Shafer

Linux or Solaris Intel.  And maybe (gods help me! gulp) NT?

Scott Shafer
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Re: Operating Systems

2001-11-14 Thread Gene Sais

This one is quite obvious: linux.  The question is which flavor :).

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RE: import/export problem in oem

2001-11-14 Thread Cale, Rick T (Richard)

Do you have sysdba or sysoper privs and are you connecting to OEM with
sysdba/

Rick

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hi,gurus



help me ,in this problem



through  command prompt  i got export/import facility .but with same user
(with  all permissions),i am not able to do same job.



error is:

The following error has occurred while trying to make the connection to the
target database using preferential credentials

ora-01031:insufficient previleges.



thanks to all



babu

 

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RE: ok..this is funny.. how do you pronounce tuple

2001-11-14 Thread Sherman, Edward

I say to-may-to, You say to-mah-to;
I say po-tay-to, You say po-tah-to;

I say too-pul, You say tuh-pul

There are N-1 ways to pronounce it.

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Tuple.  Like Tupplewear.

Bambi.

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Hi,

it's just like Tulip, just kind of different...

cheers,
Stefan

Thomas, Kevin schrieb:

 Kindof like tooyoupull only different...!

  ;o)

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 Yeah - kind of like too-you-pull but a lot quicker..

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 Hmm, dilemma - neither

 tyu pul

 Mainly because thats what my Ingres Course Instructor used in class, many,
 many years ago.

 Lee

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 Write out of good old relational theory..
 So is it (too pul). or (tuh pall)..

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Re: Operating Systems

2001-11-14 Thread Ron Rogers

I chose Linux over Solaris for Intel because the Solaris did not support the hardware 
configuration I had to work with.  The corporate bean-counters would prefer to pay for 
something rather than use a free and supported product. Very happy with the ease of 
admin and speed.
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Linux or Solaris Intel.  And maybe (gods help me! gulp) NT?

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RE: Operating Systems

2001-11-14 Thread HAWKINS, JAMES W [IT/1000]

Scott,

NT?  I think the habaneros and tequila have finally taken over...

;)

Seriously, stay away from NT.  I have the unfortunate task of monitoring a
few minor databases on NT in addition to my Unix ones, and I hate every
minute of it.  The locks it places on open files prevent you from doing a
lot of things with the database up, it has to be rebooted every month, and
it is a nightmare to administer remotely.  We use pcAnywhere which only
allows one user in at a time.  I curse NT and Gates every day...

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Re: Operating Systems

2001-11-14 Thread Rodd Holman

Regina Harter wrote:

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Re: real newbie question (i think)

2001-11-14 Thread Deepak Thapliyal

Hi Rich

am i better off creating a new column in the existing

table of the type clob or blob?  should i create a 
new table to store this data?  

This depends on what kind of queries hit this table. 
If most of your queries hit columns other than the lob
then you are justified in creating new table for the
lob so you have a 1-to-1 relationship between your
original and lob table. obviously in order to tie your
records of the lob table with the original table,
include the pk of ur original table in the lob table
and make it a FK pointing to the original table. 

having said that, note that clob/blob is inline
storage for data less than 250K (or some thing).
Beyond that # the data will get stored outside in the
lob tablespace you specified. 


and what would be my best way to keep these columns 
in sync...every time someone updated the long column 
i would want my new column updated to reflect the 
change

Does the foreign key creation stuff i wrote above
answer this question. If not, please elaborate by what
you mean by the new column should reflect change

Deepak



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 i'm in your typical situation of we don't need a
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 reality.  there is a column
 in our database (oracle is the back end of our crm
 package) that is defined
 as a long and they want to do keyword searches on
 it.  i've found out that
 you can't use type long in a where clause.
  
 i guess i have a few questions and i'm going to
 assume the answers (if
 anyone answers...please oh please do) will be a
 matter of opinion.  am i
 better off creating a new column in the existing
 table of the type clob or
 blob?  should i create a new table to store this
 data?  and what would be my
 best way to keep these columns in sync...every time
 someone updated the long
 column i would want my new column updated to reflect
 the change.
  
 right now we're on 8.0.6/win 2k...but could upgrade
 to 8.1.7 (means
 upgrading our crm package too) if it makes this
 process easier.
  
 thanks in advance for the help and not being a dba i
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Re:

2001-11-14 Thread Deepak Thapliyal

money for one;

Deepak

PS: enterprize has bunch of more features than
standard including tspitr support and partitions.. for
more check out technet.oracle.com


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Re: lack of memory

2001-11-14 Thread Deepak Thapliyal

Edward,

how about checking your processes parameter and then
multiplying that # with your sort area size .. thats
would give you a good idea about the size of your PGA
.. also i guess there is a 250 K overhead per
connection so you need to add that as well. for more
accurate information, yopu could run a pmap for all
local  connections (connection coming from app) and
then grep for the value besides the stack label to get
exact PGA on a per connection basis. This assumes you
are on unix..how big is your SGA?

Deepak
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 thanks for the reply. I'd thought about it.
 Unfortunately, it's quite difficult to catch the
 difference as number of users is not constant and
 they do different job (oltp queries, big reports).
 
 Thanks,
 Ed
 
 
 
  (Of course depending on the app), its seems odd
 that
  4G is insufficient for 400 users.  Maybe start
 having
  a look at the uga/pga stats for connected sessions
 and
  seeing what this adds up to.
 
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Re: lack of memory

2001-11-14 Thread Deepak Thapliyal

Edward,

why you thinking of going MTS route to support just
400-500 users. On 4GB like you have, i can support
2000+ users (non-mts) with no problems .. most of the
boxes are E-450's, 4500's


Deepak
--- Connor McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 (Of course depending on the app), its seems odd that
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 hth
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  About 2 months ago I initiated gradual migration
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  our sql code to use bind variables instead of
  literals because we had problems with shared
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  fragmentation and strong contention on shared
  pool and library cache latches. The 90% of sql is
  accumulated on the client side (BDE+Delphi).
  I cut 150M from shared pool and planned cut it
 down
  further as we get results from the migration.
  Despite that now we have lack of memory. It seems
  now user processes consume more memory. We can't
  increase memory because of limitations on kernel
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  that uses bind variables and another one that uses
  literals?
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Re: Re[2]: Correction : EMC symetrix - 1M stripe width - Raid 0+

2001-11-14 Thread Don Granaman

I have used the Symmetrix with hardware mirroring and software
(Veritas Volume Manager) striping and seen significant performance
gains over just mirroring in the Sym.  It is going to depend a lot on
your I/O patterns and volume though.

I have used SAME, but in general wouldn't really recommend it for most
systems (based on the concept though, not the stripe size).  Sure it
is easy, but it isn't usually optimal.  (If this is the same SAME
I am thinking of - stripe and mirror everything across everything.)
The EMC cache will buy a lot, but in the most demanding systems it is
still important to segregate some physical I/O to distinct
disks/disksets to reduce contention - and in the case of EMC, to
better utilize the cache.

I agree whole-heartedly on PowerPath!

As always, I would recommend reading Gaja's paper at
http://www.quest.com/whitepapers/Raid1.pdf

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 We're using the Symetrix storage system as well, but we did not use
stripping,
 but full mirroring instead.  Performance has been more than
acceptable, but we
 really haven't pushed it I think.  As far as the SAME (Stripe And
Mirror
 Everything) idea from Oracle, that's great if you have the funds and
space for
 all of those disk systems.  Otherwise it's 'pie in the sky'.  BTW,
you SHOULD
 look into EMC's PowerPath software (if available on your system).
This one
 allows the computer to balance IO across all of the ports available
into the
 Symetrix.  It really does improve matters.

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 Interestingly you could go back to Oracle support and
 ask them about the SAME method (as presented by an
 Oracle employee if I recall correctly at a user
 conference) - which advocated 1m stripes.

 You'll tend to face these battles with EMC - their
 sales people are great at things like you don't need
 to worry about where things are on the disk, or
 striping etc - our cache takes care of all of
 that...Yeah right!

 As a general guideline, I think you'd be better of
 with smaller stripe size, but you don't have to limit
 yourself - you could have fine granined striping for
 some parts of the system, and larger grains for other
 parts.

 hth
 connor

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  Application : OLTP
  Environment : Solaris 2.6 on a E10K
  Database  : 8.0.5.2.1
 
  We recently migrated from sun a5200 storage to EMC
  symetrix, and we have
  been seeing occasional performance problems. When
  contacted, Oracle support
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  have used 1M, is very
  large and also said users will not see an advantage
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  When we had Sun storage before we had 64K as the
  stripe width.
 
  Has anyone faced this kind of issue or has any
  comments..or can someone
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Re:real newbie question (i think)

2001-11-14 Thread dgoulet

Rich,

Since no one has yet posted an answer, here is my opinion/questions.

1) Why do you want the 'new column'?  What it looks like it that you just
need to query the table for the keywords your interested in.  The 'like'
operator shoudl work just fine.

2) A long can contain 2GB worth of data, why on earth would you want to use
a CLOB or BLOB?

Dick Goulet

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hey all,
 
i'm in your typical situation of we don't need a dba...oracle is an app so
the bizapps guy can handle itright...now to reality.  there is a column
in our database (oracle is the back end of our crm package) that is defined
as a long and they want to do keyword searches on it.  i've found out that
you can't use type long in a where clause.
 
i guess i have a few questions and i'm going to assume the answers (if
anyone answers...please oh please do) will be a matter of opinion.  am i
better off creating a new column in the existing table of the type clob or
blob?  should i create a new table to store this data?  and what would be my
best way to keep these columns in sync...every time someone updated the long
column i would want my new column updated to reflect the change.
 
right now we're on 8.0.6/win 2k...but could upgrade to 8.1.7 (means
upgrading our crm package too) if it makes this process easier.
 
thanks in advance for the help and not being a dba i hope what i wrote makes
sense!
*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-: 
rich davidson 
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table of the type clob or blob?nbsp; should i create a new table to store this 
data?nbsp; and what would be my best way to keep these columns in sync...every 
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Re:Operating Systems

2001-11-14 Thread dgoulet

Red Hat Linux.

Dick Goulet

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Hi Guys,

Our SA/DBA is considering dumping Unixware and moving to a different 
OS.  Sun is out for reasons that are not being shared with me, probably 
because they don't want to buy new hardware, so aside from that, would 
anyone care to weigh in with opinions on what OS is most stable with 
Oracle?  AAnd will run on an intel based box?  Ours is not a high 
transaction system, mostly reads, maybe 100 users a day.

Thanks for your opinions,
Regina

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Online index rebuilds

2001-11-14 Thread Orr, Steve

Compressed indexes:
The docs don't say that compressed indexes cannot be rebuilt online but it
doesn't work for me. I can rebuild normal indexes online, I can rebuild an
index and compress it but I can't do both. 

Compute statistics:
SQL alter index name rebuild online compute statistics nologging; 
Online rebuilds with compute statistics don't work either and the docs don't
say there's a restriction on this.

Are these documentation bugs or software bugs? (O8172/RedHat6.2)


Steve Orr
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RE: Oracle Text (ConText/InterMedia) and realtime updates

2001-11-14 Thread Jesse, Rich

So, I fire up a Catalog Index on a column with an associated column in the
index set (for ordering the results) and it comes back 10-12 times faster
than the Context Index.  The problem is that the result sets weren't the
same.  Upon investigating, I found out that catalog index searching
(catsearch) doesn't support wildcards, which we need.  Bummer!

Oh well, back to contexts.   Thanks for your input!

Rich Jesse  System/Database Administrator
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I would suggest researching an Autonomous Transaction fired from the trigger
to get around the commit executed by CTX_DDL.SYNC_INDEX.
Another approach I would pursue is to evaluate the use of Catalog Indexes
(8.1.7).  If your requirements fit within the catalog index limitations
(more like an Intermedia Text-lite) then you are in luck since they are
transactional, hence no need for periodic synchronization.
HTH 
Tony Aponte 
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RE: Operating Systems

2001-11-14 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

Does Oracle sell a version for Solaris on Intel?

I thought they only offered Oracle for SPARC Solaris.

Mind you it wouldn't be a bad thing if they did offer Oracle for Solaris on
Intel, esp. now that the Alphas are owned by the people developing the
Itanium platform.

Regards,
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

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I chose Linux over Solaris for Intel because the Solaris did not
support the hardware configuration I had to work with.  The corporate
bean-counters would prefer to pay for something rather than use a free and
supported product. Very happy with the ease of admin and speed.
ROR mª¿ªm

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Linux or Solaris Intel.  And maybe (gods help me! gulp) NT?

Scott Shafer
San Antonio, TX


Regina Harter wrote:
 
 Hi Guys,
 
 Our SA/DBA is considering dumping Unixware and moving to a
different
 OS.  Sun is out for reasons that are not being shared with me,
probably
 because they don't want to buy new hardware, so aside from that,
would
 anyone care to weigh in with opinions on what OS is most stable
with
 Oracle?  AAnd will run on an intel based box?  Ours is not a high
 transaction system, mostly reads, maybe 100 users a day.
 
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RE: real newbie question (i think)

2001-11-14 Thread Johnston, Tim

Hi Dick...

  Here are some thoughts...

1) You can't use the like operator on the LONG datatype...  You will get an
inconsistent datatype error...

2) A bunch of reasons...
a) LONG are going away someday
b) You can store LOB data out of line with the table to improve
performance
c) You can more than one LOB per table
d) You can partition a table with LOB's but not one with a LONG
e) LOB's support random access to the data
f) There a bunch of built in functions to access LOB's ( check out
the DBMS_LOB package )
  
Tim

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Rich,

Since no one has yet posted an answer, here is my opinion/questions.

1) Why do you want the 'new column'?  What it looks like it that you
just
need to query the table for the keywords your interested in.  The 'like'
operator shoudl work just fine.

2) A long can contain 2GB worth of data, why on earth would you want to
use
a CLOB or BLOB?

Dick Goulet

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Author: Rich Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:   11/14/2001 5:30 AM

hey all,
 
i'm in your typical situation of we don't need a dba...oracle is an app so
the bizapps guy can handle itright...now to reality.  there is a column
in our database (oracle is the back end of our crm package) that is defined
as a long and they want to do keyword searches on it.  i've found out that
you can't use type long in a where clause.
 
i guess i have a few questions and i'm going to assume the answers (if
anyone answers...please oh please do) will be a matter of opinion.  am i
better off creating a new column in the existing table of the type clob or
blob?  should i create a new table to store this data?  and what would be my
best way to keep these columns in sync...every time someone updated the long
column i would want my new column updated to reflect the change.
 
right now we're on 8.0.6/win 2k...but could upgrade to 8.1.7 (means
upgrading our crm package too) if it makes this process easier.
 
thanks in advance for the help and not being a dba i hope what i wrote makes
sense!
*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-:*'``'*:-.,_,.-: 
rich davidson 
dynamicsoft Inc. 
east hanover, nj 

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don't

need a dba...oracle is an app so the bizapps guy can handle
itright...now 
to reality.nbsp; there is a column in our database (oracle isnbsp;the back
end

of our crm package) that is defined as a long and they want to do keyword 
searches on it.nbsp; i've found out that you can't use type long in a where

clause./SPAN/FONT/FONT/FONT/SPAN/DIV
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size=2SPAN class=540272013-14112001i guess i have a few questions and i'm

going to assume the answers (if anyone answers...please oh please do) will
be a 
matter of opinion.nbsp; am i better off creating a new column in the
existing 
table of the type clob or blob?nbsp; should i create a new table to store
this 
data?nbsp; and what would be my best way to keep these columns in
sync...every 
time someone updated the long column i would want my new column updated to 
reflect the change./SPAN/FONT/FONT/FONT/SPAN/DIV
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ORA-1410

2001-11-14 Thread Yuval Arnon
Title: ORA-1410





Hi,
I am running the following command 


analyze table BLOB compute statistics


and I am getting the following error.


*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-01410: invalid ROWID


Metal link tell me to export,drop,import the table.


Does anyone know of a way to fix the table without dropping it ??


TIA


Yuval.





Re: ORACLE-L Digest -- Volume 2001, Number 318

2001-11-14 Thread Eric D. Pierce

And the SAs *are* going to run weekly/monthly UPS tests from now on, 
right? :)

regards,
ep

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Re: Operating Systems

2001-11-14 Thread Byron Pearce

Patrice:

Oracle for Solaris x86 has been out for a while.  I am running it on one of my
machines at home.  It's Oracle!  It's Solaris!  It's Intel (AMD in my case)!
It's a 3-in-1 wonder toy!  ;-)

Seriously, take a look at http://store.oracle.com under the CD Packs area.
There will be one for Sun Solaris Intel.

Boivin, Patrice J wrote:

 Does Oracle sell a version for Solaris on Intel?

 I thought they only offered Oracle for SPARC Solaris.

 Mind you it wouldn't be a bad thing if they did offer Oracle for Solaris on
 Intel, esp. now that the Alphas are owned by the people developing the
 Itanium platform.

 Regards,
 Patrice Boivin
 Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

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 I chose Linux over Solaris for Intel because the Solaris did not
 support the hardware configuration I had to work with.  The corporate
 bean-counters would prefer to pay for something rather than use a free and
 supported product. Very happy with the ease of admin and speed.
 ROR mª¿ªm

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/14/01 01:12PM 
 Linux or Solaris Intel.  And maybe (gods help me! gulp) NT?

 Scott Shafer
 San Antonio, TX

 Regina Harter wrote:
 
  Hi Guys,
 
  Our SA/DBA is considering dumping Unixware and moving to a
 different
  OS.  Sun is out for reasons that are not being shared with me,
 probably
  because they don't want to buy new hardware, so aside from that,
 would
  anyone care to weigh in with opinions on what OS is most stable
 with
  Oracle?  AAnd will run on an intel based box?  Ours is not a high
  transaction system, mostly reads, maybe 100 users a day.
 
  Thanks for your opinions,
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Re: Correction : EMC symetrix - 1M stripe width - Raid 0+

2001-11-14 Thread Byron Pearce

I agree with Don.  We have always found it better to mirror at the EMC
Symmetrix level and then handle striping requirements via the volume
manager (such as Veritas Volume Manager).  In fact, I presented a paper on
this at IOUG-A last year.

The bottom line is to make sure that you properly design it.  Just because
it's on an EMC doesn't mean that you shouldn't build the system as
optimally as possible.  If you optimize the system and use the EMC
intelligence and caching to enhance your performance, you'll get much
better results than resoring to cache-based tuning.  If you tune based
on cache, then the only way you'll ever be able to optimize is to buy more
and more cache . . .which, of course, costs you cash.  :-)

Don Granaman wrote:

 I have used the Symmetrix with hardware mirroring and software
 (Veritas Volume Manager) striping and seen significant performance
 gains over just mirroring in the Sym.  It is going to depend a lot on
 your I/O patterns and volume though.

 I have used SAME, but in general wouldn't really recommend it for most
 systems (based on the concept though, not the stripe size).  Sure it
 is easy, but it isn't usually optimal.  (If this is the same SAME
 I am thinking of - stripe and mirror everything across everything.)
 The EMC cache will buy a lot, but in the most demanding systems it is
 still important to segregate some physical I/O to distinct
 disks/disksets to reduce contention - and in the case of EMC, to
 better utilize the cache.

 I agree whole-heartedly on PowerPath!

 As always, I would recommend reading Gaja's paper at
 http://www.quest.com/whitepapers/Raid1.pdf

 -Don Granaman
 [OraSaurus]

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  We're using the Symetrix storage system as well, but we did not use
 stripping,
  but full mirroring instead.  Performance has been more than
 acceptable, but we
  really haven't pushed it I think.  As far as the SAME (Stripe And
 Mirror
  Everything) idea from Oracle, that's great if you have the funds and
 space for
  all of those disk systems.  Otherwise it's 'pie in the sky'.  BTW,
 you SHOULD
  look into EMC's PowerPath software (if available on your system).
 This one
  allows the computer to balance IO across all of the ports available
 into the
  Symetrix.  It really does improve matters.
 
  Dick Goulet
 
  Reply Separator
  Author: =?iso-8859-1?q?Connor=20McDonald?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date:   11/14/2001 2:10 AM
 
  Interestingly you could go back to Oracle support and
  ask them about the SAME method (as presented by an
  Oracle employee if I recall correctly at a user
  conference) - which advocated 1m stripes.
 
  You'll tend to face these battles with EMC - their
  sales people are great at things like you don't need
  to worry about where things are on the disk, or
  striping etc - our cache takes care of all of
  that...Yeah right!
 
  As a general guideline, I think you'd be better of
  with smaller stripe size, but you don't have to limit
  yourself - you could have fine granined striping for
  some parts of the system, and larger grains for other
  parts.
 
  hth
  connor
 
   --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  Hi,
  
   Application : OLTP
   Environment : Solaris 2.6 on a E10K
   Database  : 8.0.5.2.1
  
   We recently migrated from sun a5200 storage to EMC
   symetrix, and we have
   been seeing occasional performance problems. When
   contacted, Oracle support
   among other things pointed out the stripe width we
   have used 1M, is very
   large and also said users will not see an advantage
   above 64K.
  
   When we had Sun storage before we had 64K as the
   stripe width.
  
   Has anyone faced this kind of issue or has any
   comments..or can someone
   explain the low level impact of the stripe width on
   the ORACLE I/O
   operations?
  
   Much appreciated..
  
   Regards
  
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RE: Operating Systems

2001-11-14 Thread Ron Rogers

Patrice,
 Oracle Database 8i Release 3 (8.1.7 cd pack for Solaris Intel Apr-01 release
Part # CDP No. A89290-01 v2
contains:
8i  rel3 8.1.7 Enterprise Edition
8i  rel3 8.1.7 Standard Edition
8i rel3 8.1.7. Client for MSWIN95/98/2000/NT
Oracle Internet File System rel 1.1.9 for MS2000/nt
OEM rel 2.2 w/tuning,mgmt,diag packs
OEM rel2.2 For Oracle Standard Management Pack
Oracle Management Pack rel 2.2 for Oracle Applications
Oracle Management Pack rel 2.2 for SAP R/3
Oracle Workflow Server rel2.6 for MSNT and Sun SPARC Solaris
Oracle Workflow Client rel2.6 for MSNT
Oracle Message Broker rel2.0.1 for MSNT
Oracle Applications InterConnect rel4.0 for MSNT
Oracle Visual Workbench for Oracle Procedural Gateway for IBM MQSeries rel 8.0.4.1.0 
for MSNT

Plus the usual DOC CD'S
Ron
ROR mª¿ªm


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/14/01 02:40PM 
Does Oracle sell a version for Solaris on Intel?

I thought they only offered Oracle for SPARC Solaris.

Mind you it wouldn't be a bad thing if they did offer Oracle for Solaris on
Intel, esp. now that the Alphas are owned by the people developing the
Itanium platform.

Regards,
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

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I chose Linux over Solaris for Intel because the Solaris did not
support the hardware configuration I had to work with.  The corporate
bean-counters would prefer to pay for something rather than use a free and
supported product. Very happy with the ease of admin and speed.
ROR mª¿ªm

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/14/01 01:12PM 
Linux or Solaris Intel.  And maybe (gods help me! gulp) NT?

Scott Shafer
San Antonio, TX


Regina Harter wrote:
 
 Hi Guys,
 
 Our SA/DBA is considering dumping Unixware and moving to a
different
 OS.  Sun is out for reasons that are not being shared with me,
probably
 because they don't want to buy new hardware, so aside from that,
would
 anyone care to weigh in with opinions on what OS is most stable
with
 Oracle?  AAnd will run on an intel based box?  Ours is not a high
 transaction system, mostly reads, maybe 100 users a day.
 
 Thanks for your opinions,
 Regina
 
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Disk Layout Document

2001-11-14 Thread Larry Elkins

Listers,

Okay, I've been googling for about an hour now and can't find it. It seems
like I remember seeing a white paper, note, or some sort of reference
detailing preferred file layouts based on different number of disks --
e.g. 4 disks try this, with 5 disks try that.

Does that ring a bell? And if so, can anyone send me the link? In the
meantime, back to my google gun.

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Internal Benchmarking

2001-11-14 Thread Orr, Steve

Howdy All,

I want to create some database-only benchmarking scripts to reflect a
typical day in the life of a custom application. I'm thinking about using
LogMiner to get the redo and v$sqlarea to derive a representative mix of
queries. Maybe we can also sniff/parse the network traffic to the DB server.
Since I'm looking only at database activity I'm not too keen on applications
which merely record and replay end-user keystrokes and mouse clicks but I
would like to mimic delays in transaction commits due to network latency and
user indecision or whatever. I'd also like to be able to increase the load
intensity by factors of 10 to 1000. Has anyone created any application
specific benchmark routines and can you share some tips on how to do this?
Any good tools that you have used? Any comments on Mercury Interactive
stuff? Other ideas? 

AtDhVaAnNkCsE,
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RE: Operating Systems

2001-11-14 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

If there are no issues with Solaris on Intel, I would be enclined to prefer
that to LINUX or NT.

Just an opinion, and I haven't worked with Oracle on Solaris for Intel, but
it sounds good to me!

Regards,
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)


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Sent:   Wednesday, November 14, 2001 4:07 PM
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Subject:Re: Operating Systems

Patrice:

Oracle for Solaris x86 has been out for a while.  I am running it on
one of my
machines at home.  It's Oracle!  It's Solaris!  It's Intel (AMD in
my case)!
It's a 3-in-1 wonder toy!  ;-)

Seriously, take a look at http://store.oracle.com under the CD
Packs area.
There will be one for Sun Solaris Intel.

Boivin, Patrice J wrote:

 Does Oracle sell a version for Solaris on Intel?

 I thought they only offered Oracle for SPARC Solaris.

 Mind you it wouldn't be a bad thing if they did offer Oracle for
Solaris on
 Intel, esp. now that the Alphas are owned by the people developing
the
 Itanium platform.

 Regards,
 Patrice Boivin
 Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

 -Original Message-
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 Sent:   Wednesday, November 14, 2001 2:37 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject:Re: Operating Systems

 I chose Linux over Solaris for Intel because the Solaris
did not
 support the hardware configuration I had to work with.  The
corporate
 bean-counters would prefer to pay for something rather than use a
free and
 supported product. Very happy with the ease of admin and speed.
 ROR mª¿ªm

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/14/01 01:12PM 
 Linux or Solaris Intel.  And maybe (gods help me! gulp)
NT?

 Scott Shafer
 San Antonio, TX

 Regina Harter wrote:
 
  Hi Guys,
 
  Our SA/DBA is considering dumping Unixware and moving to
a
 different
  OS.  Sun is out for reasons that are not being shared
with me,
 probably
  because they don't want to buy new hardware, so aside
from that,
 would
  anyone care to weigh in with opinions on what OS is most
stable
 with
  Oracle?  AAnd will run on an intel based box?  Ours is
not a high
  transaction system, mostly reads, maybe 100 users a day.
 
  Thanks for your opinions,
  Regina
 
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RE: Disk Layout Document

2001-11-14 Thread Grabowy, Chris

I believe the Oracle DBA Handbook by Kevin Loney has that...

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Listers,

Okay, I've been googling for about an hour now and can't find it. It seems
like I remember seeing a white paper, note, or some sort of reference
detailing preferred file layouts based on different number of disks --
e.g. 4 disks try this, with 5 disks try that.

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meantime, back to my google gun.

Regards,

Larry G. Elkins
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