RE: SCOTT/TIGER

2002-01-23 Thread Mark Leith

The one I have heard is Scott being the main developer way back when.. and
Tiger was the name of his pet cat..

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RE: Connecting INGRES using database link

2002-01-23 Thread Bellows, Bambi

Golly, that looks an awful lot like VMS.  I think what it's trying to tell
you is that the node you specified is not reachable, or that the SID you've
specified is not on the node listed.  There's some kind of connection
problem there.  Try doing a select from the Ingres side over the connection.
If it works, I don't know what to tell you.  If it fails, drop and recreate
the connection string.

The important thing is that this error is NOT an Oracle error... it is a
wrapper around what it's getting from the Ingres side... and it looks for
all the world like it's not purely an Ingres error either.  That E_ is a
VMS level error (W would be warning, F would be fatal).  Unfortunately,
I've been largely off of VMS since 93, so I'm not going to be able to help a
lot there either.

Wish you would have asked this question about 10 years ago...  ;)
Bambi.

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thank you Bambi.

I already tried to create database link using HSODBC, but failed. It
returned this messages :

==
SQL select * from cond@hsodbc;
select * from cond@hsodbc
 *
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-28500: connection from ORACLE to a non-Oracle system returned this
message:
[Generic Connectivity Using ODBC]DRV_InitTdp: [INTERSOLV][ODBC INGRES
driver][INGRES]E_LQ0001 Failed to connect to DBMS session.
E_LC0001 GCA protocol service (GCA_REQUEST) failure.
Internal service status E_GC0132 -- User provided a vnode as part of the
database name (vnode::dbname), but connection information for that vnode
i (SQL State: S1000; SQL Code: -38100)
ORA-02063: preceding 6 lines from HSODBC

==
Is someone familiar with this kind of error...

TIA,

Holly

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Holly --

It has been a long time since I have done Oracle and Ingres at the same
time
(about 12 years (Oracle v6/Ingres v5)).  Back then, while there was
kinda-sorta ODBC to and from both Oracle and Ingres, they weren't able
to
access each other directly.  Generally, data transfers were to and from
flat
files, and queries between objects in the two databases utilized a third
party tool (Passport).

HTH,
Bambi.

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Dear all,
Can I create database link using generic connectivity (ODBC)? Was there
someony already try this?
I'm using oracle 8.1.6 on WIN2K box with INGRES NET, and INGRES 6.4 on
VAX/VMS.

TIA,

Holly
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RE: SCOTT/TIGER

2002-01-23 Thread Conboy, Jim

I was once told with certainty from an Oracle instructor that Scott was
an early developer, and Tiger was his cat.  But without actually meeting
Scott I take this with a grain of salt.  I expect there are many urban
legends surrounding this.  

Jim

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FW: Electrical background

2002-01-23 Thread Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130)
Title: FW: Electrical background





Sorry folks, that went to the wrong list.
I apologize. We now return you to your 
regularly scheduled Oracle discussion.



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 Subject: Electrical background
 
 
 Anybody got a EE or electronics background?
 I've got a question about relays.
 
 
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RE: SCOTT/TIGER

2002-01-23 Thread Weaver, Walt

I do.

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RE: SCOTT/TIGER

2002-01-23 Thread Ben Poels


Ed Scott was one of the founders of Oracle and that was a sign on
he liked to use.

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Re: Backup/Recovery questions ...

2002-01-23 Thread Deepak Thapliyal

Fred,

one of the easier ways is this:

1. on ur prod take a control file backup to trace
2. copy the trace to server b and edit the path/drives
3. copy init file from prod to server b
4. set the env vars in server b and startup nomount 
5. create the control file using edited trace on B
6. restore database {rman}
7. recover database {rman}
8. open resetlogs

alternate method:
all steps are similar except 1,2,5
instead u can restore controlfile (rman backup) and
then manualkly rename the file before u mount and
restore your database.

let me know if this still does not answer your q

Thx
Deepak
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   How can I bring this database up on server B now?
 There are over 100 datafiles.
 
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RE: Session_wait

2002-01-23 Thread Babich , Sergey

Hi, Henry,
Please, post it. I am terribly sorry for asking dumb questions, but hey!
I've come a long way to be a part of this country, learned the language,
become a DBA and proud of it! Time to learn! Thanks a bunch in advance!

Sincerely,
Sergey

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Couldn't hurt. Also why not do some deltas of your session statistics
(before and after snapshots)

Henry

PS: After you have the trace file, I put together an awk statement to sum up
the number and elapsed time of the wait states for each SQL statement. I can
post that if you would like. 

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Hi, Henry,
Since I didn't expect that to happen, I had just SQL trace turned on for
that particular session. Do you suggest entering
event=10046 trace name errorstack level 12 into init.ora?
Thanks,
Regards,
Sergey

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Sergey,
At what level did you trace?

Henry

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Thank you, guys, for your help, just got back to work. Unfortunately, it's
too late to run the query, but later on we'll run the OLTP again, and then
I'll do it and post the output. Currently I'm analyzing the trace file which
is about 130M (did not tkprof it yet), and that size does NOT sound healthy
to me. 
Best regards,
Sergey Babich

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Sergey, please run this and post values. Just curious. 

select 
name, value 
from 
v$sesstat vs, v$statname sn 
where 
vs.statistic#=sn.statistic# and 
value is NOT NULL and 
value0 and 
sid=11;


hth, 

- Ross

p.s. shadow process - your client connection's 'footprint' in the os. 
if a local host connect, look for LOCAL=YES. If not, look for
LOCAL=NO.  Sort out all not in your instance name. 




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Well, now it's finished, but the timing is terrible... I should've queried
v$lock. RAID had a lot of activity while that was going on. File #10 is a
data datafile. I am not sure what is meant by shadow process, sorry. I
guess we'll repeat this tomorrow. 
Thank you, guys, I really appreciate your help.
Best regards,
Sergey

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well, then it's an entirely different kettle of fish. Jeremiah is on track.

don't suppose you can query v$lock where sid=11 or block0 or lmode=6
while
this is going on, can you?

and...in the OSwhat is going on w/disk?  and with the shadow process?

and, lastly, what is file# 10? Probably a data datafile...



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Thanks for your  input, but P2 was not changing  as  u can c from the last
one I caught:
SID   SEQ#  EVENT  P1TEXT P1  P1RAW
P2TEXT P2  P2RAW P3TEXT P3  P3RAW WAIT_TIME
SEC_WT  STATE
-  -  -  --  -  
--  -    --  -    -
--  ---
   11  40019  db file sequential readfile#  10  000A
block# 221571  00036183  blocks  1  0001 -1
1594  WAITED SHORT TIME
After that the SQL changed
Regards,
Sergey Babich
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it was reading blocks into SGA buffers. No big deal. As the 
wait time went up, so likely were the values of P2 changing. 

A longish read by sid 11.

shrug

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Hi, listers,
One of the sessions seems to be a problem:
SELECT * FROM V$SESSION_WAIT WHERE SID=NUM
/
Output:
SID   SEQ#  EVENT  P1TEXT P1  P1RAW
P2TEXT P2  P2RAW P3TEXT P3  P3RAW WAIT_TIME
SEC_WT  STATE
-  -  -  --  -  
--  -    --  -    -
--  ---
   11  40019  db file sequential readfile#  10  000A
block# 221571  00036183  blocks  1  0001 -1
335  WAITED SHORT TIME

Then wait_time was 689, then 749 and 

Re: Electrical background

2002-01-23 Thread lembark



-- Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130) [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 01/23/02 10:15:31
-0800

 
 Anybody got a EE or electronics background? 
 I've got a question about relays. 

See:

The Art Of Electronics, 2nd ed
Horowitz  Hill
Cambridge U. Press.

Excellent descriptions of using and configuring
relays -- and just about anything else that moves
electrons. Heavy avoidence of unnecessary math is
one of the book's best features.

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RE: SCOTT/TIGER

2002-01-23 Thread Mark Leith

LMAO!

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Prepareing for the OCP, eh?

-Kirti

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Re: Backup/Recovery questions ...

2002-01-23 Thread Rachel Carmichael

First load all the datafiles and logfiles to server B in the locations
you want them. Load the controlfiles as well, they aren't useless.

Now.

edit the init.ora file on server B to point to where the control files
are.

create a sql script file that contains (for every datafile and logfile)

alter database rename file 'original file name' to 'new file name';

the file names should include the full path specification.

now
go into svrmgrl:

connect internal
startup mount
run the script
alter database open;
exit


and you have moved the database and files to the new server

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   I am attempting to verify the validity/integrity of a full cold
 backup I 
 did off of my production server. I backed up the datafiles,logfiles,
 
 controlfiles. The production server (server A) is much larger with
 dozens of 
 drives. I now wish to apply this backup to another server (server B).
 Server 
 B does not have the same drive configurations as server A.  Based on
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   How can I bring this database up on server B now?
 There are over 100 datafiles.
 
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RE: SCOTT/TIGER - the rumor mill

2002-01-23 Thread Farnsworth, Dave

I heard from unnamed sources that it was a developer named Tiger and Scott
was his monkey.

Unknown

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I was once told with certainty from an Oracle instructor that Scott was
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Scott I take this with a grain of salt.  I expect there are many urban
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RE: SCOTT/TIGER

2002-01-23 Thread Vergara, Michael (TEM)

Ok...it's true.  Take the Oracle Technical seminars and you too may
get to meet Scott, Live and In Person.  Unfortunately, Tiger is waiting
for Scott at the Rainbow Bridge, but Scott is still there (at least
he was last year...you know how Oracle's been lately).

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I was once told with certainty from an Oracle instructor that Scott was
an early developer, and Tiger was his cat.  But without actually meeting
Scott I take this with a grain of salt.  I expect there are many urban
legends surrounding this.  

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Re:FW: Electrical background

2002-01-23 Thread dgoulet

SO, what did you want?

Dick Goulet
Ancient Electronics Tech  tinkerer, Also certified relay NUT

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Re: Backup/Recovery questions ...

2002-01-23 Thread Fred Smith

Would I be better off doing that or doing a backup controlfile to trace 
from server A, moving the datfiles  logfiles to server B, and then editing 
the newly created trace file into a script that creates a new controlfile 
with the new datafile/logfile locations?




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First load all the datafiles and logfiles to server B in the locations
you want them. Load the controlfiles as well, they aren't useless.

Now.

edit the init.ora file on server B to point to where the control files
are.

create a sql script file that contains (for every datafile and logfile)

alter database rename file 'original file name' to 'new file name';

the file names should include the full path specification.

now
go into svrmgrl:

connect internal
startup mount
run the script
alter database open;
exit


and you have moved the database and files to the new server

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  B does not have the same drive configurations as server A.  Based on
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  I'm assuming that my controlfiles from Server A are useless.
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  There are over 100 datafiles.
 
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RE: SCOTT/TIGER - the rumor mill

2002-01-23 Thread Scott . Shafer

Poor thing got spanked a lot, eh?

Scott Shafer
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Common sense will not accomplish great things. Simply become insane and
desperate.

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 I heard from unnamed sources that it was a developer named Tiger and Scott
 was his monkey.
 
 Unknown
 
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RE: Yet Another Off Topic Discussion

2002-01-23 Thread Jared . Still

Thanks Larry.

I had forgotten about the 75 message per day problem.  That
was really a pain. 

This list finally came about when the 'other' list was down for
10 days.  The list owner would not answer his emails or
his phone. ( I had to track down his phone #, for all the good
it did )

I think this was in April or May of 1998, though I'm not sure.

Jared
OCP and Part Time Perl Evangelist :)





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Since even Jared has replied to this thread and taken us a little more off 
topic, I will risk alienating a few people by throwing in a me too 
response ;-)

I look towards this list and others for exchanging ideas and technical 
information. And as some others have already said so well, the one thing 
that makes this list stand out to me (besides the strong technical 
content) is the sense of personality and community. I think that goes a 
long way in building a group of people who want to collaborate and bounce 
things off others.

OT posts *have* gotten a bit out of hand at times but invariably things 
get back on topic. And with Joe starting the oracle-l-ot list, you can get 
both. And though I've only personally met or know a handful of people on 
this list, it seems like I kind of know a lot of the people I've never 
met.

And for those newer to the list, you have probably figured out by now that 
Jared is the list owner. You might also be interested in knowing that a 
few years back, there was a 75 message limit per day, and when you hit 
that limit your post would come through 4 months later. It was Jared who 
started the new Oracle-L, and who has taken us through various hosts as 
things changed to keep this list alive.

Anyway, a big thanks to Jared (and the silent others who have also given 
time). I'm willing, personally, to deal with a few OT posts (and many of 
them I enjoy), especially when you consider the overall quality of posts 
and the general desire of people on this list to help one another.

Regards,

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RE: ROLLBACK SEGMENT?

2002-01-23 Thread Deshpande, Kirti

I think one should not be running export of those tables when heavy DML is
being done against those.

- Kirti 


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If you want to avoid snapshot too old set the DB (or tablespaces) to
read-only.

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 H ... COULD help in avoiding snapshot too old errors.
 
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  ... you can use the following trick to assign export a
  particular rollback segment -
 
  1) Create a rollback segment tablespace with one large
  segment and bring it online before export.
  2) Offline all existing rollback segments.
  3) Export the database
  4) Offline the large tablespace created earlier.
  5) Bring back the orginals rollback segments online.
 
 So what does it accomplish to assign export [to] a particular
 rollback segment?
 
 Export doesn't generate any rollback, right, so what is it supposed to
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RE: Column Rename

2002-01-23 Thread Jared . Still

Both an Oracle DBA instructor and myself have encountered some rather
nasty results from changing column names in the data dictionary.

I was able to recover from my predicament.  :)

He wasn't.  :(

Jared






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Simple answer is no. 
There is no single command to do it, officially. 

However, there other tricks to achieve the goal. One involves messing with
data dictionary objects. Search Steve Adam's site http://www.ixora.com.au/.
I believe he had a script to demo how it can be done. But with a WARNING
that this operation is not supported by Oracle. 

Other suppored solutions involve re-creating the table, one way or the
other. One way is to exchange the table with a partition and back to 
table.
The note detailing this with an example is on Metalink. 

Or you can build a view for this table with correct column name. 

Even Oracle 9.0.1 does not have an easy way to it. One has to use the new
procedure of 'table redefinition' to achieve this. 

HTH,

- Kirti 

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Hello

Is it possible to rename a column in Oracle 8 ( Release 8.0.3.0.0 )?

Regards
Systems


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RE: dropped datafile problem

2002-01-23 Thread Eric D. Pierce


ORACLE-L Digest -- Volume 2002, Number 023
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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:09:23 -0500
  Subject: Re:RE: dropped datafile problem
 
 While the damage here has already been done, it should be a point of
 caution for us all.  I make a point of dropping the tablespace in Oracle
 first followed by judicious use of the 'fuser' command in HP-UX to see
 that all processes have released the file.  Now you know it's deletable. 
 BTW: anyone know of an equivalent to fuser for NT/2000??

(coming in late since I am in digest mode, sorry if 
this was already answered)  

Dick,

Since (for better or worse) Oracle is threaded on NT, 
other than the main Oracle process, there aren't any 
processes to be concerned about are there?  

regards,
ep

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Re: ORACLE-L Digest -- Volume 2002, Number 023

2002-01-23 Thread Eric D. Pierce

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RENAME DATAFILE

2002-01-23 Thread Seema Singh

Hi
Rename data file from one location to another location is riskly process?
If some thing wrong what will happened?Can I do it database on condition?
Can I do it when db is running?If yes then it is risky?

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Re: Trace/Event Info

2002-01-23 Thread Jared . Still

If you have access to Oracle on a unix system, take a look at 
$ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/admin/oraus.msg.

Events 1 - 10999 are of interest here.  You may also note
that it says they are for debugging Oracle.  As such you will 
likely never find documentation for some of them.

A few of them are documented in the file.

Jared





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Howdy!

Is a document available somewhere that explains the
different trace levels and also the commonly used
events for tracing? For instance, I know to use event
10046 with level 4 to get the bind variable values in
a trace, but why this particular combination of event
and trace level? What are the different levels and how
are they used? How are process state and system state
dumps performed? I'm also interested in some info that
explains how to interpret the various trace files that
are produced, other than just looking for SQL in them.
Etc...

Thanks again!
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RE: Backup/Recovery questions ...

2002-01-23 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F

Fred,

Either method works fine.  You have the same amount of data editing in both
methods (Either issue alter database rename commands, or edit the create
controlfile file.

The other consideration is that in Rachel's method, you are simply opening
the database afterword.

With the re-creation of the control file, you must (I think) alter database
open resetlogs.

A minor difference.

Whichever way you decide to do it would be fine.  The end result is a ton of
typing.

Something to consider is, on your production box, create disk directories
based on a Unix soft link, and place your database files into these
directories.  This would facilitate your moving of the database in the
future, as your soft links are at the operating system level, and can be
changed more easily than issuing the alter database commands.

Hope this helps.

Tom Mercadante
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Would I be better off doing that or doing a backup controlfile to trace 
from server A, moving the datfiles  logfiles to server B, and then editing 
the newly created trace file into a script that creates a new controlfile 
with the new datafile/logfile locations?




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First load all the datafiles and logfiles to server B in the locations
you want them. Load the controlfiles as well, they aren't useless.

Now.

edit the init.ora file on server B to point to where the control files
are.

create a sql script file that contains (for every datafile and logfile)

alter database rename file 'original file name' to 'new file name';

the file names should include the full path specification.

now
go into svrmgrl:

connect internal
startup mount
run the script
alter database open;
exit


and you have moved the database and files to the new server

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I am attempting to verify the validity/integrity of a full cold
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  did off of my production server. I backed up the datafiles,logfiles,
 
  controlfiles. The production server (server A) is much larger with
  dozens of
  drives. I now wish to apply this backup to another server (server B).
  Server
  B does not have the same drive configurations as server A.  Based on
  this
  I'm assuming that my controlfiles from Server A are useless.
How can I bring this database up on server B now?
  There are over 100 datafiles.
 
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Re: How to calculate Last and First Day of Month?

2002-01-23 Thread Charlie Mengler

I would have thought that the first day of the month
is ALWAYS the 1st, as in 1 (ONE)!

Please explain why it needs to be calculated or 
could be a value other than ONE.

 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/23/02 10:35AM 
 Hey guys,
 
 I know this is propablby easy, but I'm a bit
 overwhelmed here this week. Can you please tell me how
 to get first and last days of the month given SYSDATE?
 
 thanks a lot
 
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Re:RENAME DATAFILE

2002-01-23 Thread dgoulet

Renaming or moving a datafile is a two step proposition.  Whether or not you do
it with the database running depends on the archive log mode of the database. 
If at all possible the OS portion should be done with the database shutdown.  If
your in noarchive log mode then you have no choice.  If your in archive log mode
then you can take the tablespace and datafile offline, move/rename the file,
alter database rename file old to new, recover the tablespace, and bring it
back online.

If at all possible, take a cold backup BEFORE and AFTER.  In all cases use
the 'alter database backup controlfile to trace' command, just in case you end
up rebuilding your control file(s).

Dick Goulet

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Hi
Rename data file from one location to another location is riskly process?
If some thing wrong what will happened?Can I do it database on condition?
Can I do it when db is running?If yes then it is risky?

Thx
-Seema



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RE: RENAME DATAFILE

2002-01-23 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F

Seema,

It is not a risky process.  The proper way to do it is:

Alter tablespace {name} offline;
! host copy filename to newlocation;
Alter database rename file 'oldname' to 'newname';
alter tablespace {name} online;

* backup your database! *

if all goes well, remove the old file.

You obviously need to be able to take the tablespace offline to do this, so
no queries or transactions may be running while you do this.  You also need
to perform a backup (at least alter database backup controlfile to trace).

Hope this helps.

Tom Mercadante
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Hi
Rename data file from one location to another location is riskly process?
If some thing wrong what will happened?Can I do it database on condition?
Can I do it when db is running?If yes then it is risky?

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Re: How to calculate Last and First Day of Month?

2002-01-23 Thread Stephane Faroult

Charlie Mengler wrote:
 
 I would have thought that the first day of the month
 is ALWAYS the 1st, as in 1 (ONE)!
 
 Please explain why it needs to be calculated or
 could be a value other than ONE.
 
 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/23/02 10:35AM 
  Hey guys,
 
  I know this is propablby easy, but I'm a bit
  overwhelmed here this week. Can you please tell me how
  to get first and last days of the month given SYSDATE?
 
  thanks a lot
 
  Regards
 

Another case of 'On what day does Xmas fall this year? - on December
25th'.

I think that using the TRUNC() function with the suitable parameter must
help you truncate SYSDATE to the first day of the month - perhaps
TRUNC(SYSDATE, 'MM') or similar (too tired to RTFM). Then TO_CHAR with
the suitable format should return whatever you want.
For the last day, I presume that identifying the first day of the NEXT
month and substracting 1 must simplify the 'is this 30/31/28/29'
question.
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Re: How to calculate Last and First Day of Month?

2002-01-23 Thread Viktor

It is the 1st. I've already got quick help on that...

thanks


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  I know this is propablby easy, but I'm a bit
  overwhelmed here this week. Can you please tell me
 how
  to get first and last days of the month given
 SYSDATE?
  
  thanks a lot
  
  Regards
 
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RE: How to calculate Last and First Day of Month?

2002-01-23 Thread Weaver, Walt

select last_day(add_months(sysdate,-1)) from dual;

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It is the 1st. I've already got quick help on that...

thanks


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 month
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  I know this is propablby easy, but I'm a bit
  overwhelmed here this week. Can you please tell me
 how
  to get first and last days of the month given
 SYSDATE?
  
  thanks a lot
  
  Regards
 
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Re: How to calculate Last and First Day of Month?

2002-01-23 Thread Ron Rogers

First day calculations;
select last_day(add_months(sysdate,-1))+1 form dual; for current month
1st day.
select  last_day(add_months(sysdate,-1)) from dual ; for end of
previous month.
ROR 

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thanks a lot

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Re: How to calculate Last and First Day of Month?

2002-01-23 Thread Jared . Still

Well, yes the first day of the month is always 1.

Representing it as the first day of the current month requires
you to use the SYSDATE function. 

Returning the first day of the month can be done in several
ways, some more reasonable than others.

there's the new to SQL basic programmer DBA wannabe method:

select
   substr(to_char(sysdate,'MM/DD/'), 1,2) ||
   '/01/' ||
   substr(to_char(sysdate,'MM/DD/'), 7)
from dual;

There's the slightly better:

select
   to_date(to_char(sysdate,'MM') || '01','MMDD')
from dual;

The obtuse date math method ( my favorite ):

select
   last_day(add_months(sysdate,-1))+1
from dual;

( there are several variations on this method )

A little RTFM will reveal a much cleaner method:

select
   trunc(sysdate,'mm')
from dual;

So, the answer is always 1, but there is more than one way to get there.

Jared
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Please explain why it needs to be calculated or 
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 thanks a lot
 
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RE: Backup/Recovery questions ...

2002-01-23 Thread Jared . Still

 With the re-creation of the control file, you must (I think) alter 
database
 open resetlogs.

 A minor difference.

But one worth noting. 

If this method is chosen and the database must be opened
with resetlogs, you must take a cold backup before allowing
the database to be used.

As to the reasons why, they can be found in the archives
at www.fatcity.com.

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Fred,

Either method works fine.  You have the same amount of data editing in 
both
methods (Either issue alter database rename commands, or edit the 
create
controlfile file.

The other consideration is that in Rachel's method, you are simply opening
the database afterword.

With the re-creation of the control file, you must (I think) alter 
database
open resetlogs.

A minor difference.

Whichever way you decide to do it would be fine.  The end result is a ton 
of
typing.

Something to consider is, on your production box, create disk directories
based on a Unix soft link, and place your database files into these
directories.  This would facilitate your moving of the database in the
future, as your soft links are at the operating system level, and can be
changed more easily than issuing the alter database commands.

Hope this helps.

Tom Mercadante
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Would I be better off doing that or doing a backup controlfile to trace 
from server A, moving the datfiles  logfiles to server B, and then 
editing 
the newly created trace file into a script that creates a new controlfile 
with the new datafile/logfile locations?




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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 11:00:36 -0800

First load all the datafiles and logfiles to server B in the locations
you want them. Load the controlfiles as well, they aren't useless.

Now.

edit the init.ora file on server B to point to where the control files
are.

create a sql script file that contains (for every datafile and logfile)

alter database rename file 'original file name' to 'new file name';

the file names should include the full path specification.

now
go into svrmgrl:

connect internal
startup mount
run the script
alter database open;
exit


and you have moved the database and files to the new server

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I am attempting to verify the validity/integrity of a full cold
  backup I
  did off of my production server. I backed up the datafiles,logfiles,
 
  controlfiles. The production server (server A) is much larger with
  dozens of
  drives. I now wish to apply this backup to another server (server B).
  Server
  B does not have the same drive configurations as server A.  Based on
  this
  I'm assuming that my controlfiles from Server A are useless.
How can I bring this database up on server B now?
  There are over 100 datafiles.
 
  OS:  SunOS 5.6
  Oracle8 Enterprise Edition Release 8.0.4.4.0 - Production
 
  Thank you,
-Fred S.
 
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RE: How to calculate Last and First Day of Month?

2002-01-23 Thread lhoska

the first is always the first and the last may be calculated by using
last_day function.

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Charlie Mengler wrote:
 
 I would have thought that the first day of the month
 is ALWAYS the 1st, as in 1 (ONE)!
 
 Please explain why it needs to be calculated or
 could be a value other than ONE.
 
 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/23/02 10:35AM 
  Hey guys,
 
  I know this is propablby easy, but I'm a bit
  overwhelmed here this week. Can you please tell me how
  to get first and last days of the month given SYSDATE?
 
  thanks a lot
 
  Regards
 

Another case of 'On what day does Xmas fall this year? - on December
25th'.

I think that using the TRUNC() function with the suitable parameter must
help you truncate SYSDATE to the first day of the month - perhaps
TRUNC(SYSDATE, 'MM') or similar (too tired to RTFM). Then TO_CHAR with
the suitable format should return whatever you want.
For the last day, I presume that identifying the first day of the NEXT
month and substracting 1 must simplify the 'is this 30/31/28/29'
question.
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performance problem with partitioned table query.

2002-01-23 Thread Jessica Mao

Oracle 8.1.7.0.0

table event_t range partitioned by column poid_id0. only 1 partition called p_1 out of 
the 14 contains data. A query on event_t became significantly slow after rows increase:

select   poid_DB, poid_ID0, poid_TYPE, poid_REV, start_t, end_t, sys_descr
from  event_t 
where event_t.end_t = :1 and event_t.end_t  :2 and
  event_t.poid_TYPE like :3 and (event_t.account_obj_ID0 = :4 and
  event_t.account_obj_DB = 1 ) order by event_t.end_t desc

Rows Execution Plan
---  ---
  0  SELECT STATEMENT   GOAL: CHOOSE
  0   SORT (ORDER BY)
  0PARTITION RANGE (ALL) PARTITION: START=1 STOP=14
  0 TABLE ACCESS   GOAL: ANALYZED (BY LOCAL INDEX ROWID) OF
'EVENT_T' PARTITION: START=1 STOP=14
  0  INDEX   GOAL: ANALYZED (RANGE SCAN) OF
   'I_EVENT__ACCTOBJ_END_T' (NON-UNIQUE) PARTITION: START=1
 STOP=14

Index I_EVENT__ACCTOBJ_END_T was created on event_t ( account_obj_id0, end_t ) using 
LOCAL.
Other 2 columns involved in the where clause have either only one distinct value or a 
few. So are not indexed.
column account_obj_id0 has 1 million unique values in event_t and remain unchanged 
during the tests. when rows insert, average rows per account_obj_id0 value increase as 
well.

Trace shows always the same execution plan but elapsed time increased enormously!
I did 2 rounds of tests, every round I dropped and recreated event_t empty:

In test round 1:
1.) inserted 1 million rows into event_t with same end_t value. Query returned:
call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrentrows
--- --   -- -- -- --  --
Parse   23  0.02   0.09  0  0  0   0
Execute156  0.02   0.29  0  0  0   0
Fetch  156  0.14   1.09  8   2698  0 195
--- --   -- -- -- --  --
total  335  0.18   1.47  8   2698  0 195

2.) inserted ANOTHER 1.5 million rows into event_t with 10,000+ different end_t 
values. Query returned:
Parse   36  0.00   0.04  0  0  0   0
Execute118  0.01   0.01  0  0  0   0
Fetch  118  0.61  86.71   1385   5045  0 587
--- --   -- -- -- --  --
total  272  0.62  86.76   1385   5045  0 587

In test round 2:
1.) inserted 1 million rows into event_t with same end_t value. Query returned as 
round1 step 1.)

2.) inserted ANOTHER 5 million rows into event_t with ANOTHER end_t value. Query 
returned:
Parse   40  0.00   0.11  0  0  0   0
Execute139  0.02   0.12  0  0  0   0
Fetch  139  0.25   4.66303   2868  0 761
--- --   -- -- -- --  --
total  318  0.27   4.89303   2868  0 761

3.) inserted ANOTHER 2 million rows into event_t with 12,000+ different end_t values. 
Query returned:
Parse   34  0.01   0.01  0  0  0   0
Execute 97  0.00   0.06  0  0  0   0
Fetch   97  0.58  89.93   1257   4260  0 614
--- --   -- -- -- --  --
total  228  0.59  90.00   1257   4260  0 614 


In test round 1 elapsed time increased 60 times from 1 million to 2.5 million rows. In 
round 2 it increased 3 times from 1 to 6 million rows, and 18 times from 6 to 8 
million rows. So #-of-rows in event_t is not the #1 convict for large physical reads. 
It's more likely the #-of-different-end_t-values. Before I always thought that to an 
indexed column the more different values the better. But what's going on in this case? 
Am I missing anything? 

Top wait event in statspack report is 'db file sequential read'. oradebug event 10046 
shows 'db file sequential read' is waiting on object event_t.

Thank you!

Jessica Mao
Portal Software, Inc.
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creating a procedure

2002-01-23 Thread Lance Prais

I want to create a stored procedure that takes the following information and
puts it into a table.  How would I do this?

CREATE OR REPLACE Procedure Used_license as
Begin
Select A.Pc_session_id From pt_client_event A where A.pc_event_op = 'LAUNCH'
and A.pc_date =SYSDATE -1
minus
Select B.Pc_session_id From pt_client_event B where B.Pc_event_op = 'LOGOUT'
and B.pc_date =SYSDATE -1
End;


I am tying to do it this way but getting errors:

PLS-00103: Encountered the symbol END when expecting one of the following:

   *  - + ; / for mod rem an exponent (**) and or group having
   intersect minus order start union where connect ||



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RE: creating a procedure

2002-01-23 Thread Seefelt, Beth


I think you need a ; at the end of the select statement.

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I want to create a stored procedure that takes the following information and
puts it into a table.  How would I do this?

CREATE OR REPLACE Procedure Used_license as
Begin
Select A.Pc_session_id From pt_client_event A where A.pc_event_op = 'LAUNCH'
and A.pc_date =SYSDATE -1
minus
Select B.Pc_session_id From pt_client_event B where B.Pc_event_op = 'LOGOUT'
and B.pc_date =SYSDATE -1
End;


I am tying to do it this way but getting errors:

PLS-00103: Encountered the symbol END when expecting one of the following:

   *  - + ; / for mod rem an exponent (**) and or group having
   intersect minus order start union where connect ||



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RE: SCOTT/TIGER

2002-01-23 Thread Rachel Carmichael

there are several instructors named Scott how do you know which one
it is or even if it's one of the instructors?


--- Vergara, Michael (TEM) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ok...it's true.  Take the Oracle Technical seminars and you too may
 get to meet Scott, Live and In Person.  Unfortunately, Tiger is
 waiting
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 I was once told with certainty from an Oracle instructor that Scott
 was
 an early developer, and Tiger was his cat.  But without actually
 meeting
 Scott I take this with a grain of salt.  I expect there are many
 urban
 legends surrounding this.  
 
 Jim
 
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RE: creating a procedure

2002-01-23 Thread Gogala, Mladen

You used an incorrect name for the procedure. Here 
is one that compiles flawlessly:

CREATE OR REPLACE Procedure RTFM
Begin
Select A.Pc_session_id From pt_client_event A 
   where A.pc_event_op = 'LAUNCH'
   and A.pc_date =SYSDATE -1
minus
Select B.Pc_session_id From pt_client_event B 
   where B.Pc_event_op = 'LOGOUT'
   and B.pc_date =SYSDATE -1;
End;



The procedure will now compile run without a glitch.
It will not do anything, but it will compile. Name is everything!
Oh, what the heck, it has been a long day in the office!


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I want to create a stored procedure that takes the following information and
puts it into a table.  How would I do this?

CREATE OR REPLACE Procedure Used_license as
Begin
Select A.Pc_session_id From pt_client_event A where A.pc_event_op = 'LAUNCH'
and A.pc_date =SYSDATE -1
minus
Select B.Pc_session_id From pt_client_event B where B.Pc_event_op = 'LOGOUT'
and B.pc_date =SYSDATE -1
End;


I am tying to do it this way but getting errors:

PLS-00103: Encountered the symbol END when expecting one of the following:

   *  - + ; / for mod rem an exponent (**) and or group having
   intersect minus order start union where connect ||



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Re: creating a procedure

2002-01-23 Thread Peter . McLarty

I think that all you need is a ; before the end You need to close your 
statement within the procedure body 


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I want to create a stored procedure that takes the following information 
and
puts it into a table.  How would I do this?

CREATE OR REPLACE Procedure Used_license as
Begin
Select A.Pc_session_id From pt_client_event A where A.pc_event_op = 
'LAUNCH'
and A.pc_date =SYSDATE -1
minus
Select B.Pc_session_id From pt_client_event B where B.Pc_event_op = 
'LOGOUT'
and B.pc_date =SYSDATE -1
End;


I am tying to do it this way but getting errors:

PLS-00103: Encountered the symbol END when expecting one of the 
following:

   *  - + ; / for mod rem an exponent (**) and or group having
   intersect minus order start union where connect ||



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RE: Backup/Recovery questions ...

2002-01-23 Thread Rachel Carmichael

and most importantly of all, if you don't want to have to repeat (and
repeat) this exercise...

BACKUP THE NEW DATABASE

--- Mercadante, Thomas F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Fred,
 
 Either method works fine.  You have the same amount of data editing
 in both
 methods (Either issue alter database rename commands, or edit the
 create
 controlfile file.
 
 The other consideration is that in Rachel's method, you are simply
 opening
 the database afterword.
 
 With the re-creation of the control file, you must (I think) alter
 database
 open resetlogs.
 
 A minor difference.
 
 Whichever way you decide to do it would be fine.  The end result is a
 ton of
 typing.
 
 Something to consider is, on your production box, create disk
 directories
 based on a Unix soft link, and place your database files into these
 directories.  This would facilitate your moving of the database in
 the
 future, as your soft links are at the operating system level, and
 can be
 changed more easily than issuing the alter database commands.
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 Tom Mercadante
 Oracle Certified Professional
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 2:40 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Would I be better off doing that or doing a backup controlfile to
 trace 
 from server A, moving the datfiles  logfiles to server B, and then
 editing 
 the newly created trace file into a script that creates a new
 controlfile 
 with the new datafile/logfile locations?
 
 
 
 
 From: Rachel Carmichael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Backup/Recovery questions ...
 Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 11:00:36 -0800
 
 First load all the datafiles and logfiles to server B in the
 locations
 you want them. Load the controlfiles as well, they aren't useless.
 
 Now.
 
 edit the init.ora file on server B to point to where the control
 files
 are.
 
 create a sql script file that contains (for every datafile and
 logfile)
 
 alter database rename file 'original file name' to 'new file
 name';
 
 the file names should include the full path specification.
 
 now
 go into svrmgrl:
 
 connect internal
 startup mount
 run the script
 alter database open;
 exit
 
 
 and you have moved the database and files to the new server
 
 --- Fred Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   List,
  
 I am attempting to verify the validity/integrity of a full cold
   backup I
   did off of my production server. I backed up the
 datafiles,logfiles,
  
   controlfiles. The production server (server A) is much larger
 with
   dozens of
   drives. I now wish to apply this backup to another server (server
 B).
   Server
   B does not have the same drive configurations as server A.  Based
 on
   this
   I'm assuming that my controlfiles from Server A are useless.
 How can I bring this database up on server B now?
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RE: SCOTT/TIGER

2002-01-23 Thread Vergara, Michael (TEM)

The name I was given is Scott Gossett.  My team leader and one 
of our team members took the advanced seminars last year, and 
their instructor was Scott, and he admitted his notoriety.

-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 4:00 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


there are several instructors named Scott how do you know which one
it is or even if it's one of the instructors?


--- Vergara, Michael (TEM) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ok...it's true.  Take the Oracle Technical seminars and you too may
 get to meet Scott, Live and In Person.  Unfortunately, Tiger is
 waiting
 for Scott at the Rainbow Bridge, but Scott is still there (at least
 he was last year...you know how Oracle's been lately).
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 10:26 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 I was once told with certainty from an Oracle instructor that Scott
 was
 an early developer, and Tiger was his cat.  But without actually
 meeting
 Scott I take this with a grain of salt.  I expect there are many
 urban
 legends surrounding this.  
 
 Jim
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:45 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
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link error - gnu compiler / cygwin / Pro*C / Oracle 8.1.7 / Windo

2002-01-23 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
Title: link error - gnu compiler / cygwin / Pro*C / Oracle 8.1.7 / Windows 2000





My apologies for this non-strictly DBA question.


Has anyone successfully used Oracle 8.1.7 Pro*C on Windows 2000 using the Gnu Compiler (gcc) that comes with Cygwin?


I've tried the following commands in Cygwin
proc iname=test.pc oname=test.c include=C:\Oracle817\precomp\public
- command successful (I see file test.c)


gcc -I/cygdrive/c/Oracle817/precomp/public -c -o test.o test.c
- command successful (I see file test.o)


gcc -o test.exe /cygdrive/c/Oracle817/oci/lib/bc/oci.lib /cygdrive/c/Oracle817/precomp/lib/msvc/orasql8.LIB test.o
- command fails:
/cygdrive/c/Oracle817/oci/lib/bc/oci.lib: file not recognized: File format not recognized
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status



Related question: in my 8.1.7 Oracle Home, I see the following files 
oci\lib 
 bc\oci.lib 
 bc\ociw32.lib 
 msvc\oci.lib 
 msvc\ociw32.lib 
precomp\lib 
 msvc\oraSQL8.LIB 
 msvc\oraSQX8.LIB 


which of those are required to link when you create a Pro*C program? i.e. which would I supply as a filename to gcc -l?




RE: creating a procedure

2002-01-23 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
Title: RE: creating a procedure





 -Original Message-
 From: Lance Prais [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
 I want to create a stored procedure that takes the following 
 information and
 puts it into a table. How would I do this?
 
 CREATE OR REPLACE Procedure Used_license as
 Begin
 Select A.Pc_session_id From pt_client_event A where 
 A.pc_event_op = 'LAUNCH'
 and A.pc_date =SYSDATE -1
 minus
 Select B.Pc_session_id From pt_client_event B where 
 B.Pc_event_op = 'LOGOUT'
 and B.pc_date =SYSDATE -1
 End;
 
 I am tying to do it this way but getting errors:
 
 PLS-00103: Encountered the symbol END when expecting one of 
 the following:
 
 *  - + ; / for mod rem an exponent (**) and or group having
 intersect minus order start union where connect ||



You are going to have to store the result of a query into a variable. Does the query return one row or more? If you just want to put the results of your query in to a table, use an insert ... select ...

Some examples:


create or replace procedure x
as
 my_dummy sys.dual.dummy%type ;
 my_object_name sys.dba_objects.object_name%type ;


 cursor c_obj_name (c_owner in varchar2) is
 select object_name from dba_objects where owner = c_owner ;
begin
 /* example of query that returns only one row */
 select dummy into my_dummy from dual ;


 /* example of query that returns several rows */
 for c_obj_rec in c_obj_name ('SYSTEM')
 loop
 my_object_name := c_obj_rec.object_name ;
 end loop ;
end ;
/





Re: ORACLE-L Digest -- Volume 2002, Number 023

2002-01-23 Thread Eric D. Pierce

Ethan,

Thanks for the alternative code.

I got the exact same time either way.

table a = 7000 records, table b = 30,000 records.

old netware/oracle7 server.


  1  select
  2 count( m.student_ssn )
  3from
  4 student_master m,
  5 SIS_CSUS_ALL_FALL_2001_eos1 x
  6   where
  7 m.student_ssn = x.stu_id (+)
  8 and
  9*x.stu_id is null
SQL /

COUNT(M.STUDENT_SSN)

5406

(35 seconds)


  1  select
  2 count( m.student_ssn )
  3from
  4 student_master m
  5   where
  6 not exists
  7   (
  8 select
  9null
 10   from
 11SIS_CSUS_ALL_FALL_2001_eos1 x
 12  where
 13m.student_ssn = x.stu_id
 14*  )
SQL /

COUNT(M.STUDENT_SSN)

5406


(35 seconds)


best regards,
ep



On 23 Jan 2002 at 1:05, Oracle RDBMS Community Forum  
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ORACLE-L Digest -- Volume 2002, Number 023
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  From: Post, Ethan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 17:17:23 -0600
  Subject: RE: Sql query
 
 I believe this will work also and may be faster...
 
 select c1 from t1 a where not exists (select null
 from t2 b where a.c1 = b.c1);
 
 


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RE: creating a procedure

2002-01-23 Thread Steve McClure

I am not one to usually shout RTFM from the mountain top, but I somehow feel
compelled because I have read a couple of responses that hadn't mentioned
that age old mantra.

Your procedure might be salvagable by putting a ; at the end of your select
statement, but I don't believe it will do anything more than compile.  You
need to look into The Oracle Docs on PL/SQL.  Because while you might have
created a procedure, it isn't very procedural.

Steve McCLure

-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 3:20 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


I want to create a stored procedure that takes the following information and
puts it into a table.  How would I do this?

CREATE OR REPLACE Procedure Used_license as
Begin
Select A.Pc_session_id From pt_client_event A where A.pc_event_op = 'LAUNCH'
and A.pc_date =SYSDATE -1
minus
Select B.Pc_session_id From pt_client_event B where B.Pc_event_op = 'LOGOUT'
and B.pc_date =SYSDATE -1
End;


I am tying to do it this way but getting errors:

PLS-00103: Encountered the symbol END when expecting one of the following:

   *  - + ; / for mod rem an exponent (**) and or group having
   intersect minus order start union where connect ||



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Eval copy of 91

2002-01-23 Thread kjanusz

I have purchased an eval copy of 9i for my PC using XP 
Prof.  The eval is for 30 days.  What happens at the 
end of the eval period?  Does my PC melt, does the DB 
lock up, or nothing?

TIA, 

Ken Janusz, CPIM
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RE: SCOTT/TIGER

2002-01-23 Thread Arn Klammer

So who was SYS, and why on earth did s/he name his/her pet CHANGE_ON_INSTALL???

:-)

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24/1/2002 12:00:27 
This message has been scanned by MAILSweeper.


The name I was given is Scott Gossett.  My team leader and one 
of our team members took the advanced seminars last year, and 
their instructor was Scott, and he admitted his notoriety.

-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 4:00 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


there are several instructors named Scott how do you know which one
it is or even if it's one of the instructors?


--- Vergara, Michael (TEM) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ok...it's true.  Take the Oracle Technical seminars and you too may
 get to meet Scott, Live and In Person.  Unfortunately, Tiger is
 waiting
 for Scott at the Rainbow Bridge, but Scott is still there (at least
 he was last year...you know how Oracle's been lately).
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 10:26 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 I was once told with certainty from an Oracle instructor that Scott
 was
 an early developer, and Tiger was his cat.  But without actually
 meeting
 Scott I take this with a grain of salt.  I expect there are many
 urban
 legends surrounding this.  
 
 Jim
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:45 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
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RE: Connecting INGRES using database link

2002-01-23 Thread Ahmadsyah Alghozi Nugroho

Dear Bambi,
Unfortunatly, 10 years ago I still a kid.. ^_^
Did you know any web site/mailing list/or other resources relate with
this problem (INGRES), so I can solve this problem?

Thanks in advance

Holly

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Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 1:02 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Golly, that looks an awful lot like VMS.  I think what it's trying to
tell
you is that the node you specified is not reachable, or that the SID
you've
specified is not on the node listed.  There's some kind of connection
problem there.  Try doing a select from the Ingres side over the
connection.
If it works, I don't know what to tell you.  If it fails, drop and
recreate
the connection string.

The important thing is that this error is NOT an Oracle error... it is a
wrapper around what it's getting from the Ingres side... and it looks
for
all the world like it's not purely an Ingres error either.  That E_ is
a
VMS level error (W would be warning, F would be fatal).
Unfortunately,
I've been largely off of VMS since 93, so I'm not going to be able to
help a
lot there either.

Wish you would have asked this question about 10 years ago...  ;)
Bambi.

-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 9:05 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

thank you Bambi.

I already tried to create database link using HSODBC, but failed. It
returned this messages :

==
SQL select * from cond@hsodbc;
select * from cond@hsodbc
 *
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-28500: connection from ORACLE to a non-Oracle system returned this
message:
[Generic Connectivity Using ODBC]DRV_InitTdp: [INTERSOLV][ODBC INGRES
driver][INGRES]E_LQ0001 Failed to connect to DBMS session.
E_LC0001 GCA protocol service (GCA_REQUEST) failure.
Internal service status E_GC0132 -- User provided a vnode as part of the
database name (vnode::dbname), but connection information for that vnode
i (SQL State: S1000; SQL Code: -38100)
ORA-02063: preceding 6 lines from HSODBC

==
Is someone familiar with this kind of error...

TIA,

Holly

-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 4:20 AM
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Holly --

It has been a long time since I have done Oracle and Ingres at the same
time
(about 12 years (Oracle v6/Ingres v5)).  Back then, while there was
kinda-sorta ODBC to and from both Oracle and Ingres, they weren't able
to
access each other directly.  Generally, data transfers were to and from
flat
files, and queries between objects in the two databases utilized a third
party tool (Passport).

HTH,
Bambi.

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Dear all,
Can I create database link using generic connectivity (ODBC)? Was there
someony already try this?
I'm using oracle 8.1.6 on WIN2K box with INGRES NET, and INGRES 6.4 on
VAX/VMS.

TIA,

Holly
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Re: Eval copy of 91

2002-01-23 Thread Joe Testa

Yes your PC melts down.

my question is why would you purchase an eval copy when you can join 
technet and download the latest version and play with it to your heart's 
content(single user developer license)?


joe


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 I have purchased an eval copy of 9i for my PC using XP 
 Prof.  The eval is for 30 days.  What happens at the 
 end of the eval period?  Does my PC melt, does the DB 
 lock up, or nothing?
 
 TIA, 
 
 Ken Janusz, CPIM
 


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Re: SCOTT/TIGER

2002-01-23 Thread Joe Testa

That was Scott's Dad, and system was his mother and Yes Jared, i'm 
moving it to the OT list :)


joe


Arn Klammer wrote:

 So who was SYS, and why on earth did s/he name his/her pet CHANGE_ON_INSTALL???
 
 :-)
 
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 24/1/2002 12:00:27 

 This message has been scanned by MAILSweeper.
 
 
 The name I was given is Scott Gossett.  My team leader and one 
 of our team members took the advanced seminars last year, and 
 their instructor was Scott, and he admitted his notoriety.
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 4:00 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 there are several instructors named Scott how do you know which one
 it is or even if it's one of the instructors?
 
 
 --- Vergara, Michael (TEM) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Ok...it's true.  Take the Oracle Technical seminars and you too may
get to meet Scott, Live and In Person.  Unfortunately, Tiger is
waiting
for Scott at the Rainbow Bridge, but Scott is still there (at least
he was last year...you know how Oracle's been lately).

-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 10:26 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


I was once told with certainty from an Oracle instructor that Scott
was
an early developer, and Tiger was his cat.  But without actually
meeting
Scott I take this with a grain of salt.  I expect there are many
urban
legends surrounding this.  

Jim

-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 11:45 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Anyone out there know the history of this?
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Re: Eval copy of 91

2002-01-23 Thread Charles Wolfe

Nothing, really.

But it is quite likely that an Oracle sales rep will be giving you a call
sometime during your evaluation.

Chuck

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 I have purchased an eval copy of 9i for my PC using XP
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A Question About the Form6i on Web

2002-01-23 Thread ludh



When I migrate the Form5 to Form6i and deploy the form 
into WEB, I encounter a problem. In Form5, I use a form to call all the 
functions forms and process the login. So, the functions forms can get the login 
user's information by :Global variable. Now, in Web method, I use a jsp to 
process the login and functions hyperlinks, and the problem is how can I build a 
global variable in jsp and access by form in form server? Thank you very 
much!
Best Rgds,

Leslie 




Re: Oracle 9i installation Java RunTime Environment was not found.

2002-01-23 Thread E.Onder Kokturk



Dear Friends, I am 
trying to install Oracle 9i on Sun Solaris 5.8.But while installting i get the following 
error

hi,
you need JRE for 
installation. I think your system didn't installed or have a problem. You can 
download , install and try to install Oracle again.
-Onder 
Kokturk